RE: mono news
Hi Ed, > VFP is a particularly bad offender Yep, especially with those files it generates itself such as FXP, VCT, etc. files. -- Christof ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: mono news
Hi Ted, > Can you write a VB.NET app as a console, GUI or web app (or especially against a database) and get it to run on other platforms? With that part I don't have any practical experience. However, Mono has what seems to be a fairly complete implementation of ADO.NET with many providers for commercial and open source databases. It won't be as easy as just executing the application with the Mono runtime. -- Christof ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: mono news
On Feb 23, 2007, at 10:34 AM, Christof Wollenhaupt wrote: > Obvious if you think about it, but still one hassle when you try to > run an > application that hasn't been developed with cross plattform in mind. Just getting your thinking used to case-sensitivity is not enough. I've had some file names mangled by some Windows editors that think it's OK to change the case of a file's name. (VFP is a particularly bad offender). -- Ed Leafe -- http://leafe.com -- http://dabodev.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: mono news
On 2/23/07, Christof Wollenhaupt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just a tiny bit... The first thing that caught me with Mono was case > sensitivity in file names. My Windows code didn't care about the case, but > running with Mono the application wouldn't find its support files. Ouch. A pain, but fixable. How about the big stuff? Can you write a VB.NET app as a console, GUI or web app (or especially against a database) and get it to run on other platforms? I'd be interesting in hearing how they solved those challenges... -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: mono news
Hi Ted, > Anyone here developing a Mono solution and have practical experience? Just a tiny bit... The first thing that caught me with Mono was case sensitivity in file names. My Windows code didn't care about the case, but running with Mono the application wouldn't find its support files. Obvious if you think about it, but still one hassle when you try to run an application that hasn't been developed with cross plattform in mind. -- Christof ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: mono news
On 2/23/07, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And without wanting to start a PHPNuke versus DNN fight, if you compare > the two using that rather excellent site that I didn't know about > before, there's a hell of a lot more 'no' in the PHPNuke column! Yeah, we can save that flamewar for another thread, agreed. I'm not sure if PHPNuke is still under development. The buzz I've been seeing lately has been for CMSes like Joomla!, Xaraya or Drupal. I see PHPNuke as somewhat "last generation" -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: mono news
On 2/23/07, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It would allow people with VB.NET skills to work on Linux without having > to reskill in PHP? "Reskill?" Do you mean "learn a cross-platform language?" I haven't seen this cross-compiler or porting tool. Will it really port an application of decent complexity and let it run on another platform? Is the .NET platform sufficiently abstracted to support other OSes, web servers and database interfaces? Are there no API or proprietary dependencies? Anyone here developing a Mono solution and have practical experience? (In counterpoint, I attended the local PySIG meeting last night, where there were three presenters. The first showed some Python on his MacBookPro under OS X. The second showed off some Python and FireFox work under Linux. The third demoed the Django web framework while running Windows XP. THAT's cross platform!) -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: mono news
Ted Roche wrote: > Is it more > than just one of many clones of PHPNuke? Take a look at the list at > http://www.cmsmatrix.org. And without wanting to start a PHPNuke versus DNN fight, if you compare the two using that rather excellent site that I didn't know about before, there's a hell of a lot more 'no' in the PHPNuke column! ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: mono news
Ted Roche wrote: > And you think DotNetNuke should be ported to Mono? Why? Is it more > than just one of many clones of PHPNuke? It would allow people with VB.NET skills to work on Linux without having to reskill in PHP? ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: mono news
On 2/23/07, Alan Bourke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Having said that, DotNetNuke is a VB.NET app And you think DotNetNuke should be ported to Mono? Why? Is it more than just one of many clones of PHPNuke? Take a look at the list at http://www.cmsmatrix.org. I think there are enough CMSes out there already, cross-platform, open-licensed. I see getting VB.NET to run on Mono on Operating system Brand X as a parlor trick, like getting VFP to run under Wine: a righteous hack, but a hack nonetheless. There's no vendor support and FUD threats of future incompatibilities or legal entanglements. Why bother? -- Ted Roche Ted Roche & Associates, LLC http://www.tedroche.com ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: mono news
Tristan Leask wrote: > Hmm, I foresee a change to the VB EULA > > Or has that already happened? > "...written in Visual Basic 8.0" -- isn't that DotNet? "...but the long-term concern for Microsoft will be if Visual Basic developers follow the example of many of their C/C++ colleagues and experiment with Linux platforms. That would mean Microsoft can no longer count on their default support for Windows or Microsoft's applications and tools." -- you mean like Ed Leafe? -- Michael J. Babcock, MCP MB Software Solutions, LLC http://mbsoftwaresolutions.com http://fabmate.com "Work smarter, not harder, with MBSS custom software solutions!" ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
Re: mono news
I have to wonder if there are enough .NET programmers using VB.NET and interested in cross-platform to make this anything more than a cool academic exercise. If they had created a VB6 compiler, now that would be a whole different thing, Having said that, DotNetNuke is a VB.NET app ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
RE: mono news
Hmm, I foresee a change to the VB EULA Or has that already happened? Tristan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andy Davies Posted At: 22 February 2007 17:10 Posted To: Profox Archive Conversation: mono news Subject: mono news http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2007/02/21/visual_basic_mono_linux/ Andrew Davies MBCS CITP - AndyD 8-)# ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept by MIMEsweeper for the presence of computer viruses. Please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] with any queries. ** [excessive quoting removed by server] ___ Post Messages to: ProFox@leafe.com Subscription Maintenance: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profox OT-free version of this list: http://leafe.com/mailman/listinfo/profoxtech ** All postings, unless explicitly stated otherwise, are the opinions of the author, and do not constitute legal or medical advice. This statement is added to the messages for those lawyers who are too stupid to see the obvious.
