[libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

2013-10-03 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
+ Tibby, David, Adam, Caolan, Cedric, Kendy, Kohei, Markus, Michael M,
  Tsahi, Cloph, Robinson, Andras, Ahmad
* Completed Action Items:
+ setup tb3 repo on gerrit (Bjoern)
   https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/gitweb?p=tb3-django.git;a=summary
+ mail everyone wrt. instructions on how to un-break MSVC 2012 wrt. XP 
(Markus)
+ attempt export from Coverity categories of non-security critical bugs 
(Caolan)
   [ sent as CSV to the mailing list, nice to have a better way still ]
+ take German public holiday ...
* Pending Action Items:
+ find better way to export from Coverity categories of non-security 
critical bugs (Caolan)
+ push new default templates in & fix if necessary (Ahmad)
   [ Mirek had concerns wrt. pushing these to master, need to vote on it ]
AI:  if no vote is setup in a week, push anyway (Mirek, Ahmad)
+ switch to 10.8 baseline for Mac / 64bit (Norbert)
+ setup infrastructure to build bibisect repos (Cloph / Bjoern / Norbert)
+ CC all developers' mailing list on all the easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ change wiki page to eliminate proposed easy hacks (Bjoern)
+ propose different name for proposed easy hacks (Markus)
+ produce a VM for the load / crash regressions (Cloph / Markus)
+ partition document test loads / run them on tinderboxen (Norbert)
+ produce a VM with callgrind metrics (Matus)
+ transition and automate this inside a VM for Cloph (Lionel)
+ create a script that counts bug commenters stats for minor
  release update PR (Bjoern)
+ send a mail to libreoffice user list for each "API CHANGE" commit 
(unassigned)
   - as discussed in Stephans UNO API talk
   [ Markus prefer to have a new script that we plug in ] (Bjoern/Stephan)
* Release Engineering update (Cloph)
+ 4.1.2 RC3 status
+ on the mirror network
+ pending press release / announce.
AI: + poke marketing / PR for announce (Cloph)
+ 4.0.6 RC1 - deadline was Monday (? ...
+ on the mirror network; 4.0.6 built with 10.6 baseline
+ stand-in for Norbert, RC1 is not compatible with 10.4 but RC2 will be
+ 4.1.3 RC1 - deadline next Monday.
* GSOC round-up / summary (Cedric)
+ sadly had to fail 2x students
+ all others did a great job, have pushed their code to Melange
+ everything green on the administrative side.
+ questionable merit of passing border-line people at the mid-term
+ Cedric still waiting for couple of lines summary / update from each 
student.
* Stopping the BSA from auto-setting 'regression' keyword (Markus)
+ quality of 'regression' bugs has declined significantly, too many
  unconfirmed/needinfo bugs for calc.
+ bit de-motivating, to see 30% of bugs in needinfo -> because not a 
regression
+ in favour of removing it (Kohei)
+ used to have a special query, to pick up bugs with 'regression' 
keyword
+ # of bugs with 'regression' was approaching # of open calc bugs many 
in error.
+ a QA person should have looked at it before it is marked.
+ nice if BSA - make these suggestions - might be a regression, but not
  pollute the tags, QA person has to confirm it is (Robinson)
=> not making searches unusable.
AI: + ask Rob to turn 'regression' status off (Robinson)
* Conference round
+ great to meet everyone, and attach faces to name (Adam)
   + enjoyed hackathon & presentations
+ relaxing & casual atmosphere & diverse attendance (Kohei)
+ v. motivating to all be together (Robinson)
+ concern wrt. conf. timing - to get more students there,
  need a better timeline, and travel pre-approval / budget (Michael, Caolan)
 + ideally announce @ end of 1 conf. where the next will be.
 + like to see the call for next conf. locations to start ASAP.
* QA update (Robinson)
+ https://bugs.freedesktop.org/page.cgi?id=weekly-bug-summary.html
+121-97(+24 overall) [ conference week ]
 many thanks to the top five bug squashers:
 Samuel M.   9
 ign_christian   8
 Markus Mohrhard 7
 Teo91   5
 Maxim   4
+ Bibisected regressions waiting to be addressed (some older than 1 year)

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&list_id=348917&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=bibisected%2C%20bibisect40%2C%20bibisect35&status_whiteboard_type=anywordssubstr&order=changeddate%2Ccomponent%2Cop_sys%2Cbug_status%2Cpriority%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_id&query_based_on=
+ 50x bugs there, some bibisected to non-useful places (before time 
began eg.) (Michael)
+ if there is a dead-end need to annotate / get more feedback (Robinson)
+ Private/secure space and policy for large/confidential files needed for 
bug repro? (Robinson)
  + difficulty of getting large documents up-loaded & exchanged - bugzilla 
rejects it
 

[libreoffice-projects] Askbot for LibreOffice in your language

2013-10-03 Thread Olivier Hallot
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Hi Community (cross-posting on purpose)

We are in position to deploy AskBot for LibreOffice (AB4LO) in many
languages.

Those individuals interested to moderate the Askbot for LibreOffice in
his own language are invited to step forward.

(We will not deploy an AB4LO instance without at least one moderator.)

My experience as moderator for AB4LO in pt-BR is less than 5 minutes
/day, and the rate of new questions is about 2 new question/days and 2
new answers/day. Your mileage may vary, depending on how active is your
national/language community. As example, you can check the pt-BR site at

http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br/questions/

Note: I had to complete the translation of the AB4LO web interface
myself. I had to get a login in transifex and finish the job. Other
languages are in incomplete state too. The list of available languages
is at this link:

https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/askbot/

You may coordinate with your translator to get it completed.

Why AskBot ?

* There were several demands to deploy means of community
intercommunication other than mailing list.

* To get help thru mailing list, the process is to subscribe/confirm
subscription/write mail to ask/wait response/get flood of unwanted other
messages/unsubscribe/confirm unsubscription. This is too much 1990'ish.

* AB4LO allows you to quickly ask for help, and get responses from your
community. Unlike forums, AB4LO is aimed to establish a knowledge base
on LibreOffice in your language and provides tools to search for a given
subject quickly.

* AB4LO is not suited to debates and discussions. Prefer the mailing
lists for that purpose.

* Askbot also allows you to login thru your OpenId credentials, such as
Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc... Chances are that your users will use
it frequently.

* You also don't get e-mails unless you ask for in your profile.

*My experience with AB4LO in pt-BR*

As I said, I get 5 minute work as moderator. Most of the job is to edit
the question and put in a format of a question seeking answers. I also
narrow the tags for a better search. Sometimes people put Basic code in
the details and I care to have it well rendered with the internal AB4LO
editor tool.

I had to close some questions on subjects unrelated to LibreOffice.
Almost no spam so far.

Some answers had to be demoted to comment and some comments had to be
promoted to answer.

The kind of questions asked has a good indication on the difficulties
users have with LO and tells a lot about the user and the community.

As moderator, you are not obliged to answers users questions.

We strongly advertize Askbot for LibreOffice in many of our local
communications.

So, what are you waiting for? Get AB4LO now!!!

Kind regards

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