Re: [libreoffice-website] Re: [libreoffice-projects] Website Redesign - Beta

2014-01-22 Thread Charles-H. Schulz
Hello Jean,

Le Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:07:40 +1000,
Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com a écrit :

 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014, Charles-H. Schulz 
 charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org wrote:
 
 
  ... if anything, we should do
  ten times more marketing, and less facts. We are getting bored to
  hell with facts. People don't care about facts; they want something
  fun they can use and understand as fast as possible. They also want
  to be part of something, like a community, and they want meaning.
  Facts in place of marketing could kill Free Software, I could swear
  it.
 
 
 Perhaps so, but IMO the vast majority of our users and potential
 users have no interest in community or meaning or even fun --
 they just want a great product that does what they want or need to
 do, and therefore they want facts.
 
 Obviously we see the world of software quite differently. (This may
 well be a generational thing, at least partly.) Your emphasis is on
 the production side; my interest and emphasis is on the consumption
 (user) side.

Actually I don't believe we have that of a different view. We see the
same issues from two different vantage points. It's not an either/or
thing; you focus on the consuming side - we tried to improve that by
orders of magnitude by getting rid of pages of text no one reads and
make it simpler to grasp the idea - but we do have another specific
objective, which is to improve and grow the community. In this sense
the redesign has to meet these two goals.

best,

Charles. 


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[libreoffice-projects] Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Website Redesign - Beta

2014-01-22 Thread Zeki Bildirici
Hi,

Site looks pretty nice. Thanks for your work and sorry for late (no)
feedback from me :(
I strongly agree with Otto regarding to items 1 and 4.

21 Oca 2014 15:24 tarihinde Otto Kekäläinen o...@seravo.fi yazdı:
Hi
 2014/1/21 Charles-H. Schulz charles.sch...@documentfoundation.org:
  http://newdesign.libreoffice.org
 1) Screenshots, screenshots, screenshots!

Please put some clear, shiny and fancy screenshots. And trying to explains
features with images is very easy and effective.

What is Calc? Question can be answered as equivalent of Excel but it won't
satisfy only users sees similarity with UI. Visualization of Charts, pivot
tables,  filters and functions gived them confidence. The thing is that LO
is an office suite and not the one that people introduced first.

Also look iwork site of Apple. Beautiful screenshots,  great look of sample
works gives the feeling that oh that's cool and i can make them easily.
Impressive

 4) Comparison to Microsoft Office

This should be in the website. The question can it open ms office files
is still the number 1.

Having a main comparison table will help much.

Best regards,
Hope to have much time in near future

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