[libreoffice-projects] Re: QA Meeting Minutes - 2014-12-03

2014-12-08 Thread Eike Rathke
Hi,

On Saturday, 2014-12-06 21:18:05 -0500, Robinson Tryon wrote:

 * If a bug is fixed on the Master branch (or in Fresh), but is still
 present on Fresh/Still, it can be helpful to tag the bug and bibisect
 it, in addition to resolving it as WFM. I'll send out a separate email
 to the QA list with some advice from the devs.

IMHO a bug should not be resolved as WFM then, it is still a bug in the
release reported. If it is fixed in master then even better, hopefully
it was one commit that can be cherry-picked, so a bibisect indeed would
be welcomed.

  Eike

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[libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LIbreOffice 4.2.8 RC2 available

2014-12-08 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second release
candidate of LibreOffice 4.2.8. The upcoming 4.2.8 is an additional
bugfix release to finish off the 4.2 codeline
line. Feel free to give it a try instead of 4.2.7.

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases/

Developers and QA might also be interested in the symbol server for
windows debug information (see the release notes linked below for
details)

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/community/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.2.8 RC2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.2.8/RC2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

On behalf of the Community,

Christian

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[libreoffice-projects] [ANN] LibreOffice 4.4.0 Beta2 available

2014-12-08 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Dear Community,

The Document Foundation is pleased to announce the second Beta
release of LibreOffice 4.4.0. The upcoming 4.4.0 will be the ninth
major release of LibreOffice, coming with a bunch of new features
beside the usual bugfixes.

The Beta2 can be installed alongside the stable version, so feel free
to give it a try. Beta2 is not ready for production yet, and while
Beta1 marks feature freeze, final UI and string freeze is yet to come,
and translations are not complete.

A work-in-progress list of new features in LibreOffice 4.4 can be
found at https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/4.4

The release is available for Windows, Linux and Mac OS X from our QA
builds download page at

  http://www.libreoffice.org/download/pre-releases

Developers and QA might also be interested in the symbol server for
windows debug information (see the release notes linked below for
details)

Should you find bugs, please report them to the FreeDesktop Bugzilla:

  https://bugs.freedesktop.org

A good way to assess the release candidate quality is to run some
specific manual tests on it, our TCM wiki page has more details:

 
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Testing/Regression_Tests#Full_Regression_Test

For other ways to get involved with this exciting project - you can
e.g. contribute code:

  http://www.libreoffice.org/community/developers/

translate LibreOffice to your language:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/LibreOffice_Localization_Guide

or help with funding our operations:

  http://donate.libreoffice.org/

A list of known issues and fixed bugs with 4.4.0 Beta2 is available
from our wiki:

  http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Releases/4.4.0/Beta2

Let us close again with a BIG Thank You! to all of you having
contributed to the LibreOffice project - this release would not have
been possible without your help.

On behalf of the Community,

Christian

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[libreoffice-projects] Re: [Libreoffice-qa] QA Meeting Minutes - 2014-12-03

2014-12-08 Thread Robinson Tryon
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:43 PM, Tommy ba...@quipo.it wrote:
 if we don't mark it as FIXED WFM how do we distinguish a NEW bug without a
 fix from a NEW bug which is FIXED in master but not yet present in the
 stable branch?

Sure -- and this highlights a granularity problem we have with current
bug reports: We only have a binary switch to indicate if a bug has
been fixed or not.

We currently use the Version field to point to the oldest LO version
on which we can reproduce a bug. If we had a 2nd Version field, we
could use that to point to the newest LO version on which we can
reproduce, but IMHO that's still not as granular as I'd like. I've
some cursory ideas for how we can more clearly indicate which
environments (LO version + OS + etc..) reproduce a given bug, which we
can revisit after the Bugzilla Migration.

 I think the scenario Robinson depicted is logical.

 1- QA finds that a NEW bug in stable branch is somehow fixed in master so it
 marks it as WFM

 2- a bibisect attempt is done to identify the committ that fixed it

 3- once the bibisect is done, a backportRequest is added to whiteboard and
 devs are contacted

While we do have other work in the QA task pool (triaging incoming
bugs, bibisecting open regressions, etc..), let's see how many fixed
bugs get tagged with bibisectRequest, and see how quickly we're able
to address them. If the number is small, it shouldn't represent much
of an additional burden for QA.

If we just tag a bug with bibisectRequest and resolve it as WFM, I
think bibisecters might ignore it, so I suggest that we tag it
bibisectRequest + backportRequest at the same time. To help us keep
track of these bugs, I've added two entries to the Useful Queries
page:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Useful_Queries#Common_Lists_of_Bugs
1) Backport requests that need bibisection
2) Backport requests that do not need bibisection (i.e. needs dev attention)

How do we decide which bugs to tag? I suggest that for now we only tag
backportRequests if the bug was reported against an active Still or
Fresh branch.

So to put that into context with our current builds, here's my proposal:

If you test a bug reported against 4.3 and find
1) It's fixed in master, AND
2) It's not fixed in 4.3.5.1 (the latest build on the 4.3 branch)

Then change status - WFM, and add bibisectRequest backportRequest
to the Whiteboard.

For all other cases, if it's fixed in master, then (just) change status - WFM.


Best,
--R

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