Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: Workflow between dev, UX and l10n teams

2015-01-30 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 09:53:42AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:

 Is there a possibility that git and pootle are more-or-less
 constantly kept in sync?

Interestingly, doing a web search for pootle git synchronisation
leads me to http://weblate.org/en/features/ :-)

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[libreoffice-projects] Re: Workflow between dev, UX and l10n teams

2015-01-30 Thread Sophie Gautier
Hi,
Le 30 janv. 2015 12:25, Lionel Elie Mamane lio...@mamane.lu a écrit :

 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:14:04PM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
  On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:06:36AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:

  Interestingly, doing a web search for pootle git synchronisation
  leads me to http://weblate.org/en/features/ :-)

  Well, once we dont require to be self-hosted anymore,
  https://translations.launchpad.net/ certainly would be an option too.
However,
  IMHO there are very good reasons to be self-hosted with
  translations.

 From glancing at the webpage, Weblate is a software that we can host
 ourselves.

This is something the l10n team has already in his radar. But please,
before changing our tool and our workflow, let's discuss at Fosdem with
Dwayne from the Pootle team what we can achieve.
Cheers
Sophie

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[libreoffice-projects] Minutes of the Design Hangout: 2015-01-28

2015-01-30 Thread Jan Holesovsky
* Present: Cor, Heiko, Ibrahim, Jay, Kendy, Mattias
 
* Completed Action Items:

+ Jay: Update screenshots http://www.libreoffice.org/discover/screenshots/
  [has a couple of them, will send to the marketing-priv ML]
 
* Pending Action Items:
 
+ Default document view for Writer, single page rather than
  automatic
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001
+ Stuart: Change the default to single page
+ Jay/Stuart: Change the tooltip to Multipage view or
  Multiple page view
  [https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88001#c5 - would
  be great to get that to gerrit]
+ Jay: Double check if we can change 'Spelling' to 'Spelling and
  Grammar'
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87648
+ Jay: Send a mail to documentat...@global.libreoffice.org with the
  wiki page that collects changes in menus
+ Kendy: Collecting of the user information should be incremental,
  somewhere in the user's profile
+ Ahmed: Push the new Sifr icons he's done recently
+ Kendy: Talk to Milos wrt. 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=48622
+ Alex: Gnome 2.20-style 'a' icons  Gnome 3-style text line icons
+ Samuel: Formulas and Navigator should open in the sidebar, not as
  a special window
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85897
  + Is that issue for the Navigator too (I dont read it from the
issue) and in Writer the choice anycase was to allow opening
separate too. (Cor, after discussion later)
 
* UI changes integrated the last week:

+ Improve focus handling in .ui files (Thomas Viehmann, Caolán)
 
* Last week's discussions that need a resolution:

+ Disable object, image, and character toolbars in Impress (Jay, Cor)
  To simply the interface by having just one toolbar above and below
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87676
+ unfortunately we would lose the possibility to change the
  style first, and then draw (Kendy)
+ it is different to how it works in Writer - there you have
  no other option than to draw first, and then tweak the
  color (Jay)
+ current way is similar to eg. Inkscape (Mattias)
+ if we used the sidebar more, it would allow more space for the
  slide (Jay)
+ but interaction should be improved there, indeed (Mattias)
+ what about to restructure this a bit more? (Kendy)
+ proposed a sidebar for colors etc. together with shapes to
  draw (Jay)
  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87643
  wps draw sidebar - 
https://vm150.documentfoundation.org/attachment.cgi?id=111225
 
* Discussions that need a resolution - continue the next week
 
+ Default insert image anchor and wrapping (Jay)
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87720
+ OK with changing the default (Cor)
+ is more concerned about habviour around page breaks, but
  that is independent (Cor)
+ anchored to paragraph, centers the image
+ is that preferred?
+ others insert as character (Jay)
+ changeable via the default style (Cor)
+ MSO has only As character, and To page (Jay)
+ To character anchoring should be killed ;-) (Kendy)
+ adds terrible computational complexity (Kendy)
+ will create example of various anchoring possibilities (Mattias)
 
* Discussions that need a resolution - backlog from the last weeks
 
+ When image anchor is set to 'As Character' it should set vertical
  align to top (Jay)
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87742
+ Unify wrap labels (Jay)
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=87783
+ Unifying the location of 'Tools' (Jay)
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=85511
+ non-breaking characters showing with grey background (Jay)
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58434
+ keyboard mode indicators in statusbar (Jay)
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88367
  https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88296
+ Underlines in drop downs (Jay)
  https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=86678

* Icon Updates / Issues
 
+ Sifr
+ Matthias added a couple of missing ones before the release
+ thanks so much! (Kendy)
+ otherwise busy these days unfortunately
 
+ Breeze (Jay)
+ no news
+ https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=285t=123517
+ Wiki with list of icons to design (Riddell)
  https://community.kde.org/KDE_Visual_Design_Group/LibreOffice_Breeze
+ custom LO icons
  
https://github.com/NitruxSA/plasma-next-icons/tree/master/actions/LO_lc_icons_breeze

* Customization Proposal (Heiko)
 
+ 

[libreoffice-projects] Re: Workflow between dev, UX and l10n teams

2015-01-30 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:14:04PM +0100, Bjoern Michaelsen wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 10:06:36AM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote:

 Interestingly, doing a web search for pootle git synchronisation
 leads me to http://weblate.org/en/features/ :-)

 Well, once we dont require to be self-hosted anymore,
 https://translations.launchpad.net/ certainly would be an option too. However,
 IMHO there are very good reasons to be self-hosted with
 translations.

From glancing at the webpage, Weblate is a software that we can host
ourselves.

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Lionel

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