[libreoffice-projects] Infra call on Tue, Apr 17 at 16:30 UTC

2018-04-12 Thread Guilhem Moulin
Hi there,

The next infra call will take place at `date -d 'Tue Apr 17 16:30:00 UTC 2018'`
(18:30:00 Berlin time).

See https://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/infra for details; agenda TBA.

See you there!
Cheers,
-- 
Guilhem.

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[libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-04-12 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
+ Christian, Eike, Michael S, Lionel, Stephan, Xisco, Olivier, Caolan,
  Miklos, Heiko, Sophie, Michael W, Michael M, Kendy

* Completed Action Items:
+ come up with slot count (Heiko, Markus, Thorsten)

* Pending Action Items:

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ 5.4.7 RC1 – status
   + tagged yesterday, Windows builds up-loaded
+ 6.0.4 – RC1 – due to tag next week.
+ 6.1.0 alpha1 – April 24th… Feature Freeze May 24th
+ Android
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
   + wiki page for direct gerrit edition
   + https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/GerritEditing
   + useful for fixing typos and linguistic of help pages.
   + many patches from Hamburg Hackfest from SophiaS & co.
   + Patch to allow new Help to be installed as UNO package (extension)
  + https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52700/3 
  + 
https://olivierhallot.blogspot.com.br/2018/04/new-libreoffice-help-is-also-uno.html
   + review & submission of corrections to help-pages on-going   
   + poor presence in guides meetings.

* Timing – Thorsten requested:
+ new doodle poll; can we find a better time ?
AI: + create the poll(Thorsten) 

* HSQLDB -> Firebird migration plan (Lionel, Miklos)
+ reverted initial removal of HSQLDB
+ based on feedback – Tomi will add a warning dialog (Miklos)
   + user can choose whether the migration is wanted or not.
   + would be good to know what the transition period should be too.
+ would be good to wait until firebird is present in LTS releases (Lionel)
   + before removing HSQLDB
   + how long ? (Miklos)
  + Ubuntu – every 2 years (Lionel)
  + say 2-3 years, if Debian.
   + other questions (Michael)
  + what is default ?
  + do people really exchange DB’s by E-mail ?
  + we migrate data – how much do we need it ?
   + eager to keep HSQLDB syntax / engine (Lionel)
  + for transition - something like a programming tool
  + 2-3 years looks good for Lionel.
+ when do we make firebird the default ? (Lionel)
   + can be for the next release when its ready.
   + need to get an overview of the bugs
+ Metabug: 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51780
   + may already be in a better state than HSQLDB
   + not opposed with this being a default for next release.
+ exchanging DB’s by E-mail can happen (Lionel)
   + know some groups that do.

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics 
250(250) (topicUI) bugs open, 328(328) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months  
 added  8(1) 16(-1)41(-1) 117(0)  
 commented 70(26)   219(27)   535(41)2040(44) 
   removed  1(1)  3(2)  3(2)   16(3)  
  resolved  6(3) 18(3) 38(3)  182(2)  
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 114 changes in 1 month, and 860 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 62 changes in 1 month, and 447 changes in 1 year
  Buovjaga made 40 changes in 1 month, and 234 changes in 1 year
  Dieter Praas made 36 changes in 1 month, and 135 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Faulí made 26 changes in 1 month, and 315 changes in 1 year
  Mehrbrodt, Samuel made 25 changes in 1 month, and 49 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 24 changes in 1 month, and 291 changes in 1 year
  Henschel, Regina made 19 changes in 1 month, and 129 changes in 1 year
  Kaganski, Mike made 11 changes in 1 month, and 44 changes in 1 year
  Faure, Jean-Baptiste made 10 changes in 1 month, and 21 changes in 1 
year

   + Sifr for Hicontrast
 https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52772/
 + this is there for a11y reasons
 + agreed by Hypra
 + Sifr is small compared to hicontrast (Michael)
+ so if you want to see things with hicontrast you need these
 + hicontrast for people with color / contrast disability (Kendy)
+ from what recall from Sifr – grey not high contrast.
 + Possibly solved by more modern hardware / shaders cf. The bug:
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75398#c14
 + was concerned too (Caolan)
 => turn it into an extension.

   + Badly readable styles at sidebar tdf#115507 and similar
 Closed as WFM now
 
* Crash Reporting (Caolan)
+ 28(+22) import failure, 3(+0) export failures
+ big jump here. Old bug not showing up until std::unique_ptr
   + could have been a cause of random crashes; now fixed.
+ one outstanding assert caused by FastParser (Michael S)
   + NS handling in xmloff not quite right
   + only works with the normal namespace prefixes
   + prefix → integer → string; 2nd mapping is static
   + have CC’d Azorpid on it.
  

[libreoffice-projects] Minutes from the design/UX meeting 2018-Apr-11

2018-04-12 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Stuart, Heiko, Gökhan, (Steve)

 * Option for choosing the color of the cell comment indicator
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115887
   + Issue accepted but customization => WF (Heiko)
   + ask the reporter and postpone for next week (Cor)
   + fine if devs like to implement as application color, see comment 2 (Stuart)
   + still not happy since an option doesnt solves the issue completely (Heiko)
   => request accepted

 * UI of Merge Cells dialog in Calc
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106544
   + Add icons or just trust the help?
   => go with the icons

 * Corner cases of style preview
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115507
   + Have a full WYSYWIG preview or minimum contrast
   + Solution for the toolbar in 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58161
   + we we show font/background color and font name, size and do not provide a 
full preview, so rather WFM (Stuart)
   + compromise to ignore font/background color when item is selected? 
 or on hover like at the dropdown (Gökhan)
   + wouldn't solve the other use case if a user makes a font size very small 
and zooms in at the document
   => reject ticket as WFM/WF

 * ODF-conform layers in Draw
   + 
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Hackfest/Hamburg2018/Make_drawing_layers_ODF_conform
   + 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Behavior-on-copying-single-drawing-objects-tt4237449.html
  8. ToDo: Specify copy behavior of objects in regard of layers...
   +  
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Removing-layer-Control-and-Dimension-Lines-tt4237443.html
  9. The layer "Dimension lines" will be removed as default layer.
 10. The layer "Dimension lines" has currently the special feature, that 
"Dimension line"-shapes 
 are automatically added to this layer, even if this layer is not the 
active one. This feature will be removed.
 11. The layer "Controls" will be removed as default layer.
 12. The current layer "Controls" has the special feature, that objects, 
which reside in this layer are automatically 
 shown in front of objects from other layers and currently the user 
cannot change this. This feature will be removed.
   + Happy with the proposals, some discussion done on ML (Heiko, Stuart)
   + clean-up makes sense but problems with the UI, e.g. arranging objects with 
the Navigator, are not tackled yet (Stuart)
   => If UI or workflow changes are planned we should talk again

 * New draw styles
   + 
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/new-drawing-styles-for-Draw-tt4237268.html 
resp.
 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LOfG24cGd5OftuHYG_vlokqyDhgGEZSOF9k_1OYe0BM/
 + What default font and font size want we for all figures?
 + What default width want we for lines?
 + What default color want we for lines? 
 + What default fill color want we for 2-D shapes?
 + What default font color want we for 2-D shapes?
 => likely not possible yet
 + How many different styles (fill color) want we for 2-D shapes in 
addition to the default?
 + Do we want different type of view for 2-D shapes (see below) except 
default style?
 + Do we want change default style for 3-D objects?
 + Do we want a few styles for text boxes as there are now?
 => Go ahead and prepare a working proposal
   + How about a style depending on page size? (Gökhan) 
 -> better go with different document themes or more than one Default Style 
(Heiko

 * Nested styles
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115311
   + Seeking for ideas
   => postponed


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