[libreoffice-projects] minutes of ESC call ...

2018-06-21 Thread Michael Meeks
* Present:
+ Sophie, Olivier, Michael W, Michael M, Heiko, Christian, Kendy,
  Xisco, Caolan, Stephan, Eike, Michael S, Thorsten

* Completed Action Items:

* Pending Action Items:
+ disable HSQLDB auto-migration for now except for experimental (Tamas B)
   [ ongoing ]
+ Budget ranking by next week (All)

* Release Engineering update (Christian)
+ no releases planned this week.
+ 6.0.5 – RC2 status
+ tagged this week; all builds except Linux-32 on pre-release server
   + re-building Linux-32
   + expect to announce it as final tomorrow
   + very few patches vs. rc1.
+ 6.1.0 beta 2 status
+ released it on Sunday.
+ 6.1 late features
+ calc threading default / fixing (Michael)
   + pleased with progress, few issues open
   + recursion issues nailed, cleaned-up.
   + suggest leaving it on for the .0 release
  + hesitant yes (Eike)   
   + crash-testing done (Caolan)
  + before “extra threading” 2-3 moved to 37 issues
  + will continue to work on that (Michael)
 + easy to turn off in an RC if necessary.
+ writer – red-lining re-factoring (Michael S)
   + nothing happened last week,
   + thorsten merged stuff to 6.1 – in disabled state 
  + easy to play with environment variable.  
   + not on as experimental feature – doesn’t work well enough yet.
   + got a new crash (Xisco)
  + Michael to poke soon.  
+ Help format (Stephan/Olivier)
   + with extension, dialog, we load old-style help viewer
 for all extensions installed
   + extension help still not integrated well.
   + not added into the hierarchy or integrated into indexes.
   + fixes very old bug wrt. on-line help usage too.
   + slightly less featureful, but somewhat working. 
   + extended tooltips don’t work with the new help
  + not going to work on that from now (Stephan)
   + discussion to move tooltips to a field in the dialogs (Olivier)
  + placeholder in dialog widgets for tooltips.
  + Tomaz V has some scripts that might help.
   + what should we do ?
  + go ahead & fix things when we get time (Olivier)
 + lots of advantages from new help
 + main issue is to disconnect from the old help
   => lets go with it and hope for resource to fix tooltips
AI:   + enable new help for tinderboxes (Christian)
+ Get-involved info-bar & Help/About menu (Kendy)
   + merged.
+ Making the Notebookbar non-experimental (Heiko)
   + will not be ready – needs communicating   
   => will not happen in 6.1
+ Remotes
+ Android viewer
+ Online

* Documentation (Olivier)
+ New Help
   + tweaks in CSS (fitoshido, buovjaga)
   + Fixes in some XML/XSLT rendering (ohallot)

+ Help pages contents
   + some cleanups, fix typos, fix contents (SophiaS, A Gelmini, ohallot)
   + New pages on Basic Internal Libraries (ohallot)
   + undocumented since OO.o
   + Handy macros for the Basic programmer
   + Question raised: Are these libs supported ?
   + if present & used for decades sounds sensible (Michael)

 + Guides: More reviews arriving for publication
   + 60% review done
   + Working on migrating ODFAuthors PLONE to TDF’s NC+LOOL.   

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
246(246) (topicUI) bugs open, 290(290) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months  
 added  5(5) 5(3)  21(1)   87(-1) 
 commented 23(10)   48(2) 315(-26)   1694(-43)
   removed  0(0) 0(0)   1(-1)  10(-1) 
  resolved  1(0) 4(0)  24(-1) 172(-3) 
+ top 10 contributors:
  Tietze, Heiko made 19 changes in 1 month, and 741 changes in 1 year
  Kainz, Andreas made 17 changes in 1 month, and 36 changes in 1 year
  Thomas Lendo made 13 changes in 1 month, and 300 changes in 1 year
  Xisco Faulí made 10 changes in 1 month, and 321 changes in 1 year
  dieterp made 8 changes in 1 month, and 129 changes in 1 year
  Timur made 7 changes in 1 month, and 48 changes in 1 year
  Foote, V Stuart made 6 changes in 1 month, and 241 changes in 1 year
  Raal made 6 changes in 1 month, and 17 changes in 1 year
  Buovjaga made 4 changes in 1 month, and 158 changes in 1 year
  eisa01 made 4 changes in 1 month, and 7 changes in 1 year

   + Drop IME (File > View > Input Method Status and underlying code)
   + 

[libreoffice-projects] Minutes from the design meeting 2018-Jul-20

2018-06-21 Thread Heiko Tietze
Present: Stuart, Heiko

 * Terminology Calc "Tools > Protect Spreadsheet"
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113236 
   + "Protect Sheet Tabs" (Cor)
 + pro: documentation/help update is not so crucial
 + "Protect the Worksheet" or "Protect the Workbook" is used in Excel
   + "Lock Sheets" (Heiko)
 + pro: the icon is a lock
 + or "Freeze"? (Stuart)
   => let's go with "Protect Sheet Tabs"

  * "View > Grid Lines for Sheet" should work on all sheets
+ https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=105560
+ WF, as Tools > Options is the default and the view options toggles this 
(Heiko)
+ possible issue with saving, see comment 20
+ Excel works on sheet level, so view > gridlines off works for the current 
sheet only
=> WF, new ticket for saving
=> another issue is that tools > options = hide are not overrridden by view 
> gridlines (on)
=> "show on colored cells" doesnt work too - maybe a difference between 
windows/linux or related to restart
   + weird control anyway with show/hide as one option merged with another 
(on colored cells)
=> default color is "Grid color", which cannot reset when changed

 * When in autocomplete jump to end of the word per cursor right instead of 
next cell
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=99615 
   + works smoothly only when we always go right on cursor right and never jump 
to next cell (Heiko)
   + WF; use F2 to exit autocompletion (Eike)
   + MSO works like what Eike describes
   => WF following Eike

 * Comma delimited numbers
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=39829 
   + Enhance "Detect special numbers" (Heiko)
   + Excel provides an "Advanced..." (Text Import Settings) dialog where 
delimiter can be modified
 + Excel doesnt remember any settings
 + see also tdf#117955 - input delimiter is not necessarily saved as 
settings on text import dialog will control 
   + supposed workflow in LibreOffice is to select the langauge dependent on 
the input, e.g. German for 1,2;1,3
   => WFM; we should update the preview when language is changed and perhaps we 
show in what settings a particular language results

 * Introduce shortcuts for indentation
   + https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101736
   + alt+cmd/ctrl+5/6
   + WF/Customize it, because this function is not so frequently used and we 
should save rare shortcuts (Heiko)
   + tab in MSO changes the indentation, backspace removes it (to zero) - there 
is no shortcut
 in LibO we insert a tabulator character (which is done per ctrl+tab in MSO)
   => WFM, customize it (Increment Indent Value, Decrement Indent Value)




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