Re: [libreoffice-projects] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-06-01

2023-06-02 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

Florian Effenberger wrote on 01.06.23 at 18:54:
Xisco discovered that there are some small glitches in the list, mostly 
things that are already in the works - apologies, I was doing that live 
in the ESC call on short notice.  I will send an update tomorrow.


I've sent an updated list to Xisco now, to double check.

Florian

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-06-01

2023-06-01 Thread Florian Effenberger

Hello,

Miklos Vajna wrote on 01.06.23 at 16:57:

+ Items currently in the budget draft (Florian)
   + Text layout Cleanup & further improve ODF conformance
   + Rolling Release: Finish MAR-based autoupdater for Windows
   + C++ accessibility tests
   + Support for Editing and Creation of SmartArt
   + Convert Impress slideshow to drawinglayer primitives
   + Writer tables: support cell margins (next to cell padding)
   + Bitmaps in vcl: Merge RGB and A layer into one
   + Stabilize cross-page table layouting
   + Font subsetter for font embedding
   + Bitmaps in vcl: Use a native format/depth
   + ODT export nondeterminism
   + Remove/Replace usages of XOR-Paint
   + Decouple master slide and layouts
   + Look-ahead styleref field for Writer
   + Normalized spell checking
   + Missing ODF Features: Concentric gradient fill of custom-shapes
   + Bridge the gap between drawinglayer and VCL
   + XLSX Aggressive Competitors tracker: gridlines for 3d line charts


Xisco discovered that there are some small glitches in the list, mostly 
things that are already in the works - apologies, I was doing that live 
in the ESC call on short notice. ;) I will send an update tomorrow.


Florian

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[libreoffice-projects] ESC meeting minutes: 2023-06-01

2023-06-01 Thread Miklos Vajna

* Present:
+ Caolan, Thorsten, Cloph, Heiko, Hossein, Justin, Khaled, Olivier, 
Stephan, Xisco, Michael S, Miklos, Florian, Eike

* Completed Action Items:
+ write to the marketing mailing list, explaining it's a good idea to make 
that decision now (Justin)
+ disable the problematic part of CppunitTest_sw_uiwriter4 for now (Xisco)
+ send the final LOCOn 2023 workshop dates to Gabriel by the end of the 
last week (Hossein/Stephane)
  + Done -> 21-23 Sepmtber (conference days)

* Pending Action Items:


* Release Engineering update (Cloph/Xisco)
+ 7.6 status: feature freeze in 1 week + beta 1 / feature freeze
  + rc 1 will be in 5 weeks / string / UI freeze
  + bring up late features if they won't make that date!
+ pin items on the start center (Heiko)
  + gerrit change: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/152136

+ 7.5 status: 7.5.4 rc2 this week, has been tagged yesterday

+ marketing clarified that the next version number is 24.2 (or 2024.2) 
(Justin)
  + "The one that fits best development: 24.2 or 2024.2 are the same for 
marketing"
-suggest NOT 2024.2 (either 2024.02 or 24.(0)2 (date-hints are always 2 
digit)
-suggest 24.2.0 - 24.2.7 as first stated/hinted at by marketing (Justin)

-safe: no need to require LO or external scripts to handle zero-padded 
versions.

  - concerned about dropping "20" from the "2024" (Stephan)

- jumping from 99 is 2100 would be a possibility

  - 2024.2 is easier to recognize (Heiko)

  - 24 internally, 2024 externally? (Hossein)

- important point: date-based (Cloph)

  - wonder if it'll be always releasing in February / August (Xisco)

- don't think it'll be that confusing (Cloph)

- the version label will reflect the change, if needed

- main reason is to avoid finding arguments for version bump, made up, 
after the fact

- was it considered to just always increment the major version like 
Firefox / Chrome does it? (Khaled)

  - would avoid completely switching

  - was considered, but rejected: would not provide any benefit 
compared to randomly bumping the major version (Cloph)

  - just increasing major version would also follow some projects 
(Michael S)

  - difference vs Firefox / Chrome (Thorsten)

- nobody cares about the version anymore, due to auto-update

  - technically, 2024.2 is possible? (Hossein)

- 2024.1, 2024.a or .b?

  - 2024 would be possible, but would prefer 24 (Cloph)

  - letters are harder (think of app stores)

  - not great to use different internal / external versions

  - x.y as major had the opportunity to make big noise about a release 
(Olivier)

  => go with 24.2 / 24.8 (all)

AI: get back to Italo with this (Justin)


* Documentation (Olivier)
+ Helpcontents2
   + Added Tabbed UI menu path for many commands (ohallot)
   + Updates and fixes (A. Barrientos , S. Chaiklin, ohallot)
+ Guides
   + Published Math Guide 7.5

+ Bugzilla Documentation statistics
260(260) bugs open
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month   3 months   12 months
   created  8(6)35(-1) 93(-15)303(-8)
 commented 15(9)68(-9)285(-15)   1036(-73)
  resolved  3(2)17(2)  43(-5) 175(-4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Olivier Hallot made 60 changes in 1 month, and 501 changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 25 changes in 1 month, and 219 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 17 changes in 1 month, and 72 changes in 1 year
  Seth Chaiklin made 12 changes in 1 month, and 338 changes in 1 year
  Heiko Tietze made 6 changes in 1 month, and 107 changes in 1 year
  Ilmari Lauhakangas made 6 changes in 1 month, and 107 changes in 1 
year
  Vernon, Stuart Foote made 5 changes in 1 month, and 44 changes in 1 
year
  Kaganski, Mike made 4 changes in 1 month, and 102 changes in 1 year
  Bogdan B made 2 changes in 1 month, and 222 changes in 1 year
  Cip made 2 changes in 1 month, and 2 changes in 1 year

* UX Update (Heiko)
+ Bugzilla (topicUI) statistics
276(276) (topicUI) bugs open, 65(65) (needsUXEval) needs to be 
evaluated by the UXteam
+ Updates:
BZ changes   1 week   1 month3 months   12 months
 added  4(-1)19(-1) 34(-1)  53(-3)
 commented 62(1)298(-73)   898(-24)   2355(-77)
   removed  2(2)  6(2)  13(1)   28(2)
  resolved  8(3) 52(-2)112(2)  316(4)
+ top 10 contributors:
  Heiko Tietze made 225 changes in 1 month, and 1461 changes in 1 year
  Stéphane Guillou made 82 changes in 1 month, and 334 changes in 1 year
  Roman Kuznetsov made 40 changes in 1 month, and 198 changes in 1 year
  Bogdan B made 33