Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-30 Thread Erich Christian
Hi Drew, *

Am 30.06.2011 03:29, schrieb drew:
 On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 03:14 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 Silverstripe offers no possibility to rename or move folders in assets.
 Of course it does...

Looks quite obvious now... seems I've overestimated my multitasking
capabilities yesterday...  ;-)

 [..]
 I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
 ~32Megs would fail. [1]
 Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.
 (this is imposed by php's settings - 
 silverstripe itself doesn't really care.
 But when you have huge files to add, please use the
 ftp/server space Erich offered, and have him upload the files using
 scp/rsync
 
 OK - you want to run that by me again cause I guess I missed it.

Sending data by PM,

cheers
Erich

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[NA-DVD] Day 13 (of 21) was - Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-30 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 09:29 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of 
 the emails.

Sorry to hear and hope you are indeed feeling better.
 
 
 Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer.  All the 
 dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
 You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list 
 on the extensions.html file.  That has all the dictionaries linked with 
 their dates.
 http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip
 
 I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files 
 from the web site server yet.

LOL - well, small problem there - I have 181 files in my latest pull
from the server, in May when the last .iso was created, and yesterday I
asked to have the files moved from the Libo-na.us server to the TDF cms
server - this morning I find 404 files in this dictionary directory.

I really thought we agreed on two items:
1 - nothing on the disc that is not referenced from the UI.
2 - no new files would go into the disc directory on server without all
of us knowing in advance.
[On the second point - I bear some responsibility here - seems I missed
an email from you on June 2nd, where you are talking about updating
files, so I'll take the hit on that one...]

- this is going to make for a long day it seems.

Moving forward today - I propose to move the files I have from May to
the 'parking lot' on Erich's server (he was nice enough to give me info
on that last night - thank you] and have those moved into the CMS
system. I'll then delete the new dictionary files and that should put us
back to a file load that matching what has been reviewed earlier.

Then - we can step back and look at those files on the na.us server and
see which ones really are updates. I ran diff on a few of them and found
no changes, BTW, beyond the file name - there where a few with changes
also, however.

Which rather leads into another, related, subject. The new
extension/template site - we have, thanks to Tim, a darn near full
collection of the dictionaries and templates from the OO.o extension
site...what do we do with them?

Thanks,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-30 Thread drew
Hi Tim,

On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 11:42 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
 On 06/30/2011 10:02 AM, drew wrote:
  On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 09:29 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:
  I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of
  the emails.
 
 
  Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer.  All the
  dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
  You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list
  on the extensions.html file.  That has all the dictionaries linked with
  their dates.
  http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip
 
  I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files
  from the web site server yet.
  @Tim - lest I forget to say this - You Rock!
 
 
 The reason I have so many files on the server was the fact I never 
 removed the older files.
 
 3.3.1, 3.3.2, and 3.3.3 install files are all on the server.

OK


snip

   I want to keep as many 
 of the versions as I can archived, for now, offline.  But having them 
 archived online might be a good thing for people as well, since I know 
 someone wanted them and I could not remember how to find the LO site's 
 archived section for older versions.

I doubt anyone would mind if you do so - but you should know also that
on the CMS server all these versions are also available, from 3.3.1 -
3.4.x, at the moment. They are not directly available to web clients but
are available for disc production purposes.

 
 I think Florian will want the 3 missing 4.1 version French dictionaries 
 on their server, so I sent them to you and those emails on that message 
 thread.  

I can't speak for Florian but I he is not the real go to guy on this.

 I also found a few other .oxt dictionaries not listed on the 
 OOo site.  Those would be nice to include in the dictionary list.

Alright - well, would need to check the license on those files but
otherwise it sounds good - let's review them.

 
 The extensions.html file has all the dictionaries, as far as I remember, 
 linked to the .oxt files that have their .dic dates included so the 
 users can know who up-to-date those word lists are.  It is nice when you 
 find ones that have version numbers being updated, but, as far as I 
 know, some have been updated in the past without any version number 
 shown in the filename.
 
 Also the info you asked about what we do with all these dictionaries, 
 extensions, and templates, we/I have needing a place for sharing with 
 other projects is important.  There are so many extensions that have not 
 been added to our NA list that I have in my offline archive[s].  These 
 need to be placed on a LibreOffice server for everyone to be able to 
 download and/or use in their own CMS page[s].  LO users should not have 
 to go to flaky OOo pages to get these .oxt files.

I fully agree that it is high time to _stop_ referring LibreOffice users
to OpenOffice.org resources! Whether is documentation, wiki pages,
extensions, templates or user support.

As for using the libo-na.us server for distributing some extensions,
maybe - I'm not sure how that would work however and it would need to be
talked through. There is a definite problem facing LibreOffice users
with regards to what extensions TDF is willing to make available and I
would love to host a site that makes those TDF will not host available -
HOWEVER - I assume that will need to be unambiguously _not_ directly
associated with TDF. The LO-Portal name might work for that, but
libreOffice-na.us would likely be a big problem. 

 
 If need be, I would create several extension pages for use on a LO 
 server.  It will not be one that you can search like OOo's site, but it 
 could be organized in function groups.  Dictionaries in one group, 
 Writer aids in another. Special functions in a third, etc., etc..  We 
 can decide how the extensions are grouped.  Then you could either have 
 one large page with shortcut anchors to skip down to the group you 
 need, or make the groups different pages.

Thanks for the offer - the LibO extension site is fully under
development already. 
http://extensions-test.libreoffice.org/libreoffice-extensions

I'm sure folks there would be interested in your help.

hmm - actually I'm just assuming dictionaries will go on this site -
don't actually know - will need to ask the people making the decisions
about this service.

 
 I have over 80[?] extensions with almost 200 dictionaries, if you do not 
 count both the original and updates files.  I know there are more .oxt 
 extensions available, but I downloaded the ones that I might be 
 interested in using.  For the total number of extensions that are out 
 there on the OOo site, and other places, I feel there may be 150 to 
 200 of them, with many not needed anymore or not working with the newer 
 versions of OOo or LO.
 
 So, there are a lot of things needed to be though about for dictionaries 
 and other extensions.  

Yup - agreed.


Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-30 Thread Webmaster for Lungstrom.com

On 06/30/2011 12:21 PM, drew wrote:

Hi Tim,

On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 11:42 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:

On 06/30/2011 10:02 AM, drew wrote:

On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 09:29 -0400, Webmaster for Lungstrom.com wrote:

I have been real sick since Friday, so I just started reading some of
the emails.


Here is the directory files as I have it now on my computer.  All the
dictionary files have .dic dates included in their file names.
You will also have to do a copy/paste from the updated dictionary list
on the extensions.html file.  That has all the dictionaries linked with
their dates.
http://libreoffice-na.us/add-on-dictionaries-large-list.zip

I did not remove the old, non-dated, versions of these dictionary files
from the web site server yet.

@Tim - lest I forget to say this - You Rock!



The reason I have so many files on the server was the fact I never
removed the older files.

3.3.1, 3.3.2, and 3.3.3 install files are all on the server.

OK


snip


   I want to keep as many
of the versions as I can archived, for now, offline.  But having them
archived online might be a good thing for people as well, since I know
someone wanted them and I could not remember how to find the LO site's
archived section for older versions.

I doubt anyone would mind if you do so - but you should know also that
on the CMS server all these versions are also available, from 3.3.1 -
3.4.x, at the moment. They are not directly available to web clients but
are available for disc production purposes.

I did not know if there was a way to link to them last month[?] when the 
person wanted to have a copy of the previous version of LO.  If you do 
not know where it is, or you cannot find the place on the official 
site where it is, then you need to have access to these files 
somewhere.  Right now I do not know where to link to for Windows 3.3.1 
install files.  Do you?  It is not easy to find it, but I had them 
archived on my hosting account server, so I linked to those files asked 
about off the non-CMS NA site.


snip

//drew





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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread Erich Christian
Hi Drew, *

Am 27.06.2011 23:33, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier:
 On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0400, drew wrote:
 Now things get a little more interesting.
 
 1) Some of the files are shared between NA-DVD and the DE disc, and
 they exist therefore in the assets directory on the CMS - problem is
 they use German names for the sub-directories, and we of course use
 English. Is there a good way to handle this using SilverStripe so we
 both get what we want without duplicating files?
 
 I had a short look over it. As far as I see, only those subdirs
 containing german content carry german names. It's the 'screenshot'
 and 'templates' folder.

Could you tell me the folders concerned?


 then again - do we care if a sub-directory is in English or German,
 really it is just a click on a URL link on a HTML page right?

indeed  :-)
it's more about people with Mac/Linux machines browsing the disk by file
managers - they are facing folder names.


 As not familiar with the CMS capabilities: does move folders/files move
 the link depencies as well?? In this case making a more clear folder
 scheme might be an easy task ;o)).

Silverstripe offers no possibility to rename or move folders in assets.
Create a new one, move content, delete the old one.
We can drag files across existing folders and the links are corrected.


 2) The openClipArt files. Alright we have a few more then currently
 on the CMS system, so no problem we add those.
 But - there current files on the CMS system all use .tar.gz files
 and we used .zip. Anyone care?

Well we'll wait for complaints  ;-)
I guess I went for the 'lower weight' packs when downloading them...


 Maybe Uwe or Erich can give more usable comments.

:-) not sure about the usability ...  ;-)

cheers
Erich

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Erich, *,

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Erich Christian erich_...@irq.at wrote:
 Am 27.06.2011 23:33, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier:
 On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0400, drew wrote:

 As not familiar with the CMS capabilities: does move folders/files move
 the link depencies as well?? In this case making a more clear folder
 scheme might be an easy task ;o)).

 Silverstripe offers no possibility to rename or move folders in assets.

Of course it does - moving folders works just as moving pages in the
site tree, i.e. check the enable drag'n'drop checkbox, then drag the
folder.

And yes, it should take care of link dependencies, provided the links
are created from within silverstripe (but there might be a bug that
links are only corrected for the current subsite, not for the others).
I didn't test it thoroughly. But in the basic tests it worked.

 Create a new one, move content, delete the old one.

No, that's not necessary.
to rename a folder, just change the name in the title entry-box and
use the save folder button

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:36 +0200, Erich Christian wrote:
 Hi Drew, *
 
 Am 27.06.2011 23:33, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier:
  On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0400, drew wrote:
  Now things get a little more interesting.
  
  1) Some of the files are shared between NA-DVD and the DE disc, and
  they exist therefore in the assets directory on the CMS - problem is
  they use German names for the sub-directories, and we of course use
  English. Is there a good way to handle this using SilverStripe so we
  both get what we want without duplicating files?
  
  I had a short look over it. As far as I see, only those subdirs
  containing german content carry german names. It's the 'screenshot'
  and 'templates' folder.
 
 Could you tell me the folders concerned?

Yes - sorry - I meant to get to this today, but wandered a little.

There was only a few:

artwork/clipart/pfeile
screenshots/Beispiele
screenshots/Vorlagen

I think a few others - anyway - as I said, I don't see it as a big
problem.

Right now I'm more concerned that the different teams just have a good
understanding of what structures are in place.

Also, as I said - when I could see a pattern (or what I thought was a
pattern) I tried to follow it.

i.e.

artwork/gallery/*
[I used the single directory per]

extras/misc/*
[I used the single directory per]

templates/*
[there was already a de directory (and separate sub-dir for Beispiele)
so I added en, es, fr sub-dirs]

templates/en/*
[I followed the pattern of single sub-dir for each collection of
templates]

Otherwise - where I could find a file, used both by the de and na disc
then I re-linked the HTML page to point to the file currently oh disc.

I also looked at the installer directory and THINK I understand what is
being planned there - I should put my thoughts in an email and just make
sure that we are all on the same page. (will do that on the projects
list later today)

Thanks,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:47 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 Hi Erich, *,
 
 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Erich Christian erich_...@irq.at wrote:
  Am 27.06.2011 23:33, schrieb Friedrich Strohmaier:
  On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0400, drew wrote:
 
  As not familiar with the CMS capabilities: does move folders/files move
  the link depencies as well?? In this case making a more clear folder
  scheme might be an easy task ;o)).
 
  Silverstripe offers no possibility to rename or move folders in assets.
 
 Of course it does - moving folders works just as moving pages in the
 site tree, i.e. check the enable drag'n'drop checkbox, then drag the
 folder.

Just a quick note - that drag 'n drop feature has, it seems, a few
issues - you have to watch carefully when you use it, but it does work.

 
 And yes, it should take care of link dependencies, provided the links
 are created from within silverstripe (but there might be a bug that
 links are only corrected for the current subsite, not for the others).
 I didn't test it thoroughly. But in the basic tests it worked.
 
  Create a new one, move content, delete the old one.
 
 No, that's not necessary.
 to rename a folder, just change the name in the title entry-box and
 use the save folder button

That I tried also and that works.

Just to follow up - so far WHEN you used SilverStripe to set some
property then all the neat GUI tools work pretty well.

@Christian - While I have your attention here.

I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
~32Megs would fail. [1]

I also have a large group of dictionary files that need to go up...and
the GUI upload is...errr...tedious to say the least.

Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a script with
a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me ?

Thanks,

//drew

 
 ciao
 Christian
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew

On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 12:58 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 18:47 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
  Hi Erich, *,
  
snip

 Just to follow up - so far WHEN you used SilverStripe to set some
 property then all the neat GUI tools work pretty well.
 
 @Christian - While I have your attention here.
 
 I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
 ~32Megs would fail. [1]
 
 I also have a large group of dictionary files that need to go up...and
 the GUI upload is...errr...tedious to say the least.
 
 Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a script with
 a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me ?
 

oops that [1] was to point to a screen shot from the error I get when
uploading largish files - the transfer runs for a while and then just
ends with this screen displayed:

http://lo-portal.us/temp/cms-upload-error.png




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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi drew, *,

drew schrieb:

[..]

 I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
 ~32Megs would fail. [1]

Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.

 I also have a large group of dictionary files that need to go up...and
 the GUI upload is...errr...tedious to say the least.

agreed :o))

 Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a script
 with a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me ?

Pass the script or just the file/folder names - what is the most
convenient for You and I'll do.

Cool to see things going on ;o))

Gruß/regards
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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 23:54 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Hi drew, *,
 
 drew schrieb:
 
 [..]
 
  I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
  ~32Megs would fail. [1]
 
 Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.
 
  I also have a large group of dictionary files that need to go up...and
  the GUI upload is...errr...tedious to say the least.
 
 agreed :o))
 
  Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a script
  with a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me ?
 
 Pass the script or just the file/folder names - what is the most
 convenient for You and I'll do.

I'll send it along as a direct email - it will be tomorrow your time :-)
and, unfortunately, likely my time also... :-/

Adios

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi drew, *,

drew schrieb:

 On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 23:54 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 drew schrieb:

[..]

 Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a
 script with a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me
 ?

 Pass the script or just the file/folder names - what is the most
 convenient for You and I'll do.

 I'll send it along as a direct email - it will be tomorrow your time
 :-) and, unfortunately, likely my time also... :-/

If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all. Probably
less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?

 Adios

Ciao :o))
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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:38 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Hi drew, *,
 
 drew schrieb:
 
  On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 23:54 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
  drew schrieb:
 
 [..]
 
  Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a
  script with a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me
  ?
 
  Pass the script or just the file/folder names - what is the most
  convenient for You and I'll do.
 
  I'll send it along as a direct email - it will be tomorrow your time
  :-) and, unfortunately, likely my time also... :-/
 
 If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all. Probably
 less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?

OK - well for the dictionaries I need this directory:
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/

I can rename/move the directory later, sure.

For the larger individual files they will move into new locations - it
won't take me long to give you a to-from mapping - there is IIRC less
then 10 of these. Will put that together in just a little bit and send
it along.

Thanks again,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 19:45 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:38 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
  Hi drew, *,
  
  drew schrieb:
  
   On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 23:54 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
   drew schrieb:
  
  [..]
  
   Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a
   script with a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me
   ?
  
   Pass the script or just the file/folder names - what is the most
   convenient for You and I'll do.
  
   I'll send it along as a direct email - it will be tomorrow your time
   :-) and, unfortunately, likely my time also... :-/
  
  If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all. Probably
  less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?
 
 OK - well for the dictionaries I need this directory:
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
 

Just tried moving files using the CMS GUI - no problem.

So also need this full directory moved
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/documentation-PDF-and-other

Then these files - to any sub-direcotry, I'll move them later

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/template-files/gallery.zip
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/template-files/layout -
presentation.zip
[note the file names breaks above]

http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-ons-templates/OOOP-accessories-2.8.0.0.oxt
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-ons-templates/OOOP-templates-separated-en-US-2.8.0.1.oxt
http://libreoffice-na.us/template-fr.zip
http://libreoffice-na.us/templates-es.zip

I think that leaves few un-moved but I'll find them, no doubt :-)

Thanks once more,

//drew


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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi drew, *,

drew schrieb:
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:38 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 drew schrieb:

[..]

 If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all.
 Probably less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?

OK - well for the dictionaries I need this directory:
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/

recursive directory-download doesn't work.

wget -r  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list
(..
http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
Connecting to libreoffice-na.us|208.109.181.237|:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
2011-06-30 02:35:24 ERROR 403: Forbidden.)

Need either a list of files, a html where the files are linked or
indexes enabled by .htaccess which would contain a line:
Options +Indexes

I can rename/move the directory later, sure.

For the larger individual files they will move into new locations - it
won't take me long to give you a to-from mapping - there is IIRC less
then 10 of these. Will put that together in just a little bit and send
it along.

O.K.

Thanks again,

my pleasure :o))



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
arrch - ok- let me check and be sure that the files on the lo-portal
server are still identical to the libreoffice-na.us server - if so, the
lo-portal server can handle the wget command - have used it before.

BRB

On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 02:47 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Hi drew, *,
 
 drew schrieb:
 On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:38 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
  drew schrieb:
 
 [..]
 
  If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all.
  Probably less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?
 
 OK - well for the dictionaries I need this directory:
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
 
 recursive directory-download doesn't work.
 
 wget -r  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list
 (..
 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
 Connecting to libreoffice-na.us|208.109.181.237|:80... connected.
 HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
 2011-06-30 02:35:24 ERROR 403: Forbidden.)
 
 Need either a list of files, a html where the files are linked or
 indexes enabled by .htaccess which would contain a line:
 Options +Indexes
 
 I can rename/move the directory later, sure.
 
 For the larger individual files they will move into new locations - it
 won't take me long to give you a to-from mapping - there is IIRC less
 then 10 of these. Will put that together in just a little bit and send
 it along.
 
 O.K.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 my pleasure :o))
 
 
 
 Gruß/regards
 -- 
 Friedrich
 Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/
 LibreOffice and more on CD/DVD images
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 20:54 -0400, drew wrote:
 arrch - ok- let me check and be sure that the files on the lo-portal
 server are still identical to the libreoffice-na.us server - if so, the
 lo-portal server can handle the wget command - have used it before.
 
 BRB

*$^ - that means nope - I blew all that away, the only copy I have
other then on the libreoffice-na.us server is on my local drives and you
can't hit them.

Ah - I know another way - will do so in a direct email now...

@Tim I'm going to allow Friedrich to login to the libreoffice-na.us site
using my FTP credentials...


//drew

 
 On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 02:47 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
  Hi drew, *,
  
  drew schrieb:
  On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 01:38 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
   drew schrieb:
  
  [..]
  
   If it saves time to you: Just send the URL and I fetch it all.
   Probably less work to delete the unwanted afterwards?
  
  OK - well for the dictionaries I need this directory:
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
  
  recursive directory-download doesn't work.
  
  wget -r  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list
  (..
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
  Connecting to libreoffice-na.us|208.109.181.237|:80... connected.
  HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 403 Forbidden
  2011-06-30 02:35:24 ERROR 403: Forbidden.)
  
  Need either a list of files, a html where the files are linked or
  indexes enabled by .htaccess which would contain a line:
  Options +Indexes
  
  I can rename/move the directory later, sure.
  
  For the larger individual files they will move into new locations - it
  won't take me long to give you a to-from mapping - there is IIRC less
  then 10 of these. Will put that together in just a little bit and send
  it along.
  
  O.K.
  
  Thanks again,
  
  my pleasure :o))
  
  
  
  Gruß/regards
  -- 
  Friedrich
  Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/
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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread Christian Lohmaier
Hi Drew, *,

On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote:
 drew schrieb:

 [..]

 I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
 ~32Megs would fail. [1]

 Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.

(this is imposed by php's settings - silverstripe itself doesn't
really care. But when you have huge files to add, please use the
ftp/server space Erich offered, and have him upload the files using
scp/rsync

 I also have a large group of dictionary files that need to go up...and
 the GUI upload is...errr...tedious to say the least.

 agreed :o))

Similarily when you got tons of files to upload, it's easier to pack
them onto the serverspace, then you don't have to select them one by
one in order to upload them.

 Anyway to either get a ftp connection and or if I give you a script
 with a bunch of wget commands could someone run that for me ?

 Pass the script or just the file/folder names - what is the most
 convenient for You and I'll do.

Yes, ftp is a nogo, and access to the server's filesystem for direct
upload is restricted as well, so providding the wget commands (or just
the URLs themselves) are welcome.

 Cool to see things going on ;o))

Yes, indeed :-)

And don't hesitate to ask if you got technical problems with
silverstripe, or when you want to have stuff added to the css. (i.e.
before you try to workaround any limitation in the current theme by
adding the same manual css to every page you create, it's better to
just add it to a global css)

So far there are no eye-catcher css rules This is a hint/This is a
warning,... but if you got one, then feel free to share and they can
be added to be available in the wysiwyg editor (if they can be easily
applied to a paragraph style), or at least in html-sourcecode mode (by
manually adding divs with the corresponding ids/classes)

ciao
Christian

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi drew, *,

drew schrieb:

 On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 20:54 -0400, drew wrote:

[..]

 Ah - I know another way - will do so in a direct email now...

[..]

 http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/

.. ist charching ;o))

You'll find all stuff in the NA/tmp_wget/ folder after issueing
search for new files or the like.

still charging.. 

I'll stop further service now and look for my bed as we have 3:30 am
:o))

[..]

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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 03:14 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
 Hi Drew, *,
 
 On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
 damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote:
  drew schrieb:
 
  [..]
 
  I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
  ~32Megs would fail. [1]
 
  Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.
 
 (this is imposed by php's settings - 



 silverstripe itself doesn't
 really care. But when you have huge files to add, please use the
 ftp/server space Erich offered, and have him upload the files using
 scp/rsync

OK - you want to run that by me again cause I guess I missed it.

snip

 
 And don't hesitate to ask if you got technical problems with
 silverstripe, or when you want to have stuff added to the css. (i.e.
 before you try to workaround any limitation in the current theme by
 adding the same manual css to every page you create, it's better to
 just add it to a global css)
 
 So far there are no eye-catcher css rules This is a hint/This is a
 warning,... but if you got one, then feel free to share and they can
 be added to be available in the wysiwyg editor (if they can be easily
 applied to a paragraph style), or at least in html-sourcecode mode (by
 manually adding divs with the corresponding ids/classes)

Yes sir - the theme is going to need changing for sure - that is on the
list as things to do...

I would like to make landing page virtual with en, es and fr displayed
depending on the users browser setting.

Here is an easy one, I would like to have 3 headers and 3 footers
available depending on which language the user has selected - with out
regard to the users browser setting.

But that is for 'next' - other fish in the fry pan for today.

Thanks again,

//drew

 
 ciao
 Christian
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 21:29 -0400, drew wrote:
 On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 03:14 +0200, Christian Lohmaier wrote:
  Hi Drew, *,
  
  On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Friedrich Strohmaier
  damokles4-lis...@bits-fritz.de wrote:
   drew schrieb:
  
   [..]
  
   I have a bunch of files that would not upload, seems anything over
   ~32Megs would fail. [1]
  
   Indeed this is the size limit for files to be uploaded.
  
  (this is imposed by php's settings - 
 
 
 
  silverstripe itself doesn't
  really care. But when you have huge files to add, please use the
  ftp/server space Erich offered, and have him upload the files using
  scp/rsync
 
 OK - you want to run that by me again cause I guess I missed it.
 
 snip
 
  
  And don't hesitate to ask if you got technical problems with
  silverstripe, or when you want to have stuff added to the css. (i.e.
  before you try to workaround any limitation in the current theme by
  adding the same manual css to every page you create, it's better to
  just add it to a global css)
  
  So far there are no eye-catcher css rules This is a hint/This is a
  warning,... but if you got one, then feel free to share and they can
  be added to be available in the wysiwyg editor (if they can be easily
  applied to a paragraph style), or at least in html-sourcecode mode (by
  manually adding divs with the corresponding ids/classes)
 
 Yes sir - the theme is going to need changing for sure - that is on the
 list as things to do...
 

Sorry before you waste any time responding to those next paragraphs,
it's OK I know they need thinking through regarding what ends up on
disc...

 I would like to make landing page virtual with en, es and fr displayed
 depending on the users browser setting.

 
 Here is an easy one, I would like to have 3 headers and 3 footers
 available depending on which language the user has selected - with out
 regard to the users browser setting.


 
 But that is for 'next' - other fish in the fry pan for today.
 
 Thanks again,
 
 //drew
 
  
  ciao
  Christian
  
 
 
 



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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-29 Thread drew
Excellent - now go to bed, none of us are getting any younger...:-)

On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 03:28 +0200, Friedrich Strohmaier wrote:
 Hi drew, *,
 
 drew schrieb:
 
  On Wed, 2011-06-29 at 20:54 -0400, drew wrote:
 
 [..]
 
  Ah - I know another way - will do so in a direct email now...
 
 [..]
 
  http://libreoffice-na.us/English/add-on-dictionaries-large-list/
 
 .. ist charching ;o))
 
 You'll find all stuff in the NA/tmp_wget/ folder after issueing
 search for new files or the like.
 
 still charging.. 
 
 I'll stop further service now and look for my bed as we have 3:30 am
 :o))
 
 [..]
 
 Gruß/regards
 -- 
 Friedrich
 Libreoffice-Box http://libreofficebox.org/
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Re: [libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-27 Thread Friedrich Strohmaier
Hi drew, *,

sorry for the delay. Was away for the weekend meeting with tdf admin
collegues ;o)).

As I'm not involved in content affairs I'll try to answer at best
knowledge :o)).

drew schrieb:
 On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0400, drew wrote:
 snip

 First - included the projects list on this.

 Alright finished up that artwork-gallery files and moved on to the
 clipart files.

 Now things get a little more interesting.

 1) Some of the files are shared between NA-DVD and the DE disc, and
 they exist therefore in the assets directory on the CMS - problem is
 they use German names for the sub-directories, and we of course use
 English. Is there a good way to handle this using SilverStripe so we
 both get what we want without duplicating files?

I had a short look over it. As far as I see, only those subdirs
containing german content carry german names. It's the 'screenshot'
and 'templates' folder.

Maybe some rework is needed on a couple of places to make it less
confusing but in general no overall rework is required. 

 then again - do we care if a sub-directory is in English or German,
 really it is just a click on a URL link on a HTML page right?

As not familiar with the CMS capabilities: does move folders/files move
the link depencies as well?? In this case making a more clear folder
scheme might be an easy task ;o)).

 2) The openClipArt files. Alright we have a few more then currently
 on the CMS system, so no problem we add those.
 But - there current files on the CMS system all use .tar.gz files
 and we used .zip. Anyone care?

Not from my part. Don't really know openclipart. There is an .exe file -
is that an application pulling more stuff from the tar.gz's?

 and just to think out loud here - since we need to re-link the stuff
 on the HTML pages anyway - I would not mind taking the .zip files I
 have, bursting the apart and recreating to .tar.gz before pushing
 them to the server - I suppose .gz isn't considered a problem for
 windows users any longer, huh

not shure if this is necessary. Maybe it's worth a look, whether to
harmonize those things.

Maybe Uwe or Erich can give more  usable comments.

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[libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-24 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 10:03 -0400, drew wrote:
 Hi,
 
 OK - so yesterday I managed to get all of the files we had in the
 add-on-extensions moved up to the CMS server.
 
 Also managed to get 'some' of the additional artwork files.
 
 Doing this I had to make a decision and well, I just went ahead and made
 it - though it could be changed.
 
 The directory structure on the CMS is actually a good bit different from
 the one that ended up on the NA-DVD and I decided, in order to make our
 efforts more accessible to the wider project, to use the CMS current
 structure.
 
 What that means:
 
 We had all our extensions stored in a single directory.
 The CMS system has each extension stored in a separate sub-direcoties
 under a common root. I followed this patter.
 
 For Artwork we had all of our .oxt packaged (Gallery clipart) files in a
 single directory. We also have all the thumbnails for these files stored
 in a single, and different, directory (pics). The CMS again uses
 separate sub-directories, under a common root, for artwork gallery
 files. It also includes the thumbnail graphic associated with the .oxt
 in this separate directory (and any other ancillary file associted with
 the package). I also followed suit on this.
 
 So - for today, will finish moving artwork gallery files, then other
 artwork and then move onto moving templates.
 
 Finally, I found a few (only a few) files in the NA-DVD directories that
 are not listed in our UI - something that I thought we had gotten rid
 of. I did not move these files. 
 

Hi again,

First - included the projects list on this.

Alright finished up that artwork-gallery files and moved on to the
clipart files.

Now things get a little more interesting.

1) Some of the files are shared between NA-DVD and the DE disc, and they
exist therefore in the assets directory on the CMS - problem is they use
German names for the sub-directories, and we of course use English.
Is there a good way to handle this using SilverStripe so we both get
what we want without duplicating files?

2) The openClipArt files. Alright we have a few more then currently on
the CMS system, so no problem we add those.
But - there current files on the CMS system all use .tar.gz files and we
used .zip. Anyone care?

Thanks

//drew


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[libreoffice-projects] Re: [us-marketing] [NA-DVD] Day 8 (of 21)

2011-06-24 Thread drew
On Fri, 2011-06-24 at 12:53 -0400, drew wrote:
snip
 First - included the projects list on this.
 
 Alright finished up that artwork-gallery files and moved on to the
 clipart files.
 
 Now things get a little more interesting.
 
 1) Some of the files are shared between NA-DVD and the DE disc, and they
 exist therefore in the assets directory on the CMS - problem is they use
 German names for the sub-directories, and we of course use English.
 Is there a good way to handle this using SilverStripe so we both get
 what we want without duplicating files?

then again - do we care if a sub-directory is in English or German,
really it is just a click on a URL link on a HTML page right?

 
 2) The openClipArt files. Alright we have a few more then currently on
 the CMS system, so no problem we add those.
 But - there current files on the CMS system all use .tar.gz files and we
 used .zip. Anyone care?

and just to think out loud here - since we need to re-link the stuff on
the HTML pages anyway - I would not mind taking the .zip files I have,
bursting the apart and recreating to .tar.gz before pushing them to the
server - I suppose .gz isn't considered a problem for windows users any
longer, huh

Adios,

//drew


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