http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=2010\11\13\story_13-11-2010_pg7_5

Saturday, November 13, 2010

Coup in Pakistan a real possibility'



* US terrorism expert claims Pakistan doesn't want direct talks between Afghan 
Taliban and Karzai govt or West; it wants to ensure it gets a satellite state 
in neighbourhood

Daily Times Monitor

LAHORE: Western countries would like to negotiate with the Taliban, but 
Pakistan would rather they did not. US terrorism expert Bruce Riedel spoke with 
Spiegel Online about just how explosive the situation currently was in Pakistan 
and how much influence al Qaeda still had.

On increasing talk of trying to negotiate with the Afghan Taliban to achieve a 
political settlement, Riedel said, "We're all war weary and are looking for a 
way out. We would all like a political solution but the question is: are the 
Taliban capable of the kind of process of compromise and negotiations that we 
want? And can it be separated from al-Qaida? The odds are good that the answer 
is no and that the ties between the two are too strong. For example, there was 
an attempted attack on the metro system in New York City last year, which was 
al Qaeda-sponsored, but the terrorists had been given to al Qaeda by the Afghan 
Taliban. That suggests it's going to be very hard to break up the connection."

To a question if the arrest of Mullah Baradar - a possible negotiating partner 
within the Afghan Taliban - was an attempt by Pakistan to stop negotiations 
altogether, the terrorism expert called it "another dimension of the 
complicated problem". He claimed Pakistan did not want direct negotiations 
between the Afghan Taliban and the Hamid Karzai government or between the 
Afghan Taliban and the West, adding that it wanted to control the process so to 
ensure it got its preferred outcome - a satellite state next to Pakistan. "When 
Mullah Baradar started to talk about talks, the ISI had him arrested as a 
signal to the other Taliban to prevent them from taking independent action," he 
added.

He said Pakistan was already in the midst of a small-scale civil war today, 
adding that it is a very fragile, volatile and combustible country right now. 
He said what happens in Afghanistan would have huge ramifications for what 
happens in Pakistan, adding that a jihadist victory in Afghanistan would have 
enormous reverberations and could even signal a take over by jihadist forces in 
Pakistan. 

To a question that some people believed a jihadist takeover was already more 
likely in Pakistan than in Afghanistan, he said, "I don't think it's imminent 
or inevitable. It's probably not even the most likely outcome. But for the 
first time, it is a real possibility. It could come in one of two ways. The 
Pakistani Taliban insurgence could grow or, more likely, you could have a coup 
from inside the military by jihadist sympathisers. There is a lot of unrest in 
the Pakistan Army because of their ongoing operations against terrorists. We 
could wake up one morning and have another Ziaul Haq in power in Pakistan, only 
this time without the Soviet Union as his enemy."

On beliefs that al Qaeda not only has relations with the Afghan Taliban but 
also with the Pakistani ones, which almost seems to be acting as a kind of al 
Qaeda proxy, Riedel said the reason was that al Qaeda learned an important 
lesson in Iraq: if you put foreigners in the front line, they will eventually 
turn the population against them, while in Pakistan's case, the front line were 
the Pakistani Taliban, Lashkar-e-Tayyaba and Pakistani faces. He said al Qaeda 
did not lead the fight in Afghanistan, adding that they let the Taliban lead 
it. But behind the scenes they provided support, he added.

Dominant power: To a question on the international community's first priority, 
Riedel said, "We have to make sure this is an Afghan-led process. Secondly, we 
need to send a clear message to Pakistan that it can be part of the process, 
but it cannot be the dominant power. Afghanistan cannot be a satellite state of 
Pakistan."

Regarding rumors on jihadist websites and elsewhere that al Qaeda was already 
transferring cadres to Yemen, assuming that they could not hide in North 
Waziristan for long, given the US drones and the prospect of a military 
invasion there, the terrorism expert said, "Judging from the history of al 
Qaeda, they will prepare and plan ahead. I am sure they are putting key cadres 
in places like Yemen and Somalia, but also moving them around in Pakistan, 
where you can hide easily - even in slums adjacent to the big cities, 
especially Karachi."

He said al Qaeda had proven to be very agile and resilient and it was a 
learning organisation. He said it adapted to new circumstances and learned from 
mistakes. "They are also very patient. They have invested years in planning 
their more spectacular operations. They can wait. So on the whole, this is far 
from over. Al Qaeda today remains a very dangerous foe and must not be 
underestimated," he added.


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