[proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad)...
Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad sebagaimana terlihat dari terjemahan surat nabi babi itu kepada pemimpin Oman yang ada di didinding benteng Sohar (Sohar Fort) ... http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman_e.gif --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: ... We give them a choice: Either to convert to > Islam, or to pay > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." [â¦] > > Hehehe... begitulah cara Islam nyebarin agamanya, serang kafir, paksa orang > masuk Islam atau mati kalo ga mau tunduk dan bayar jizyah. Betul2 agama bejad > di sisi auloh. > > > http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5907.htm > > > > December 12, 2011 Special Dispatch No.4354 > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum of Jordan's Tahrir Party Discusses Jihad Against > Germany, Pledges to > Impose 'Jizya' Poll Tax on Non-Muslims, and Vows to Annihilate Israel > > Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Ahmad Abu > Quddum of the Tahrir Party in Jordan, which aired on JoSat TV on > December 8, 2011. > JoSat, a private Jordanian channel, is owned by businessman Riyadh Al-Huroub. > His wife, Rula Al-Huroub, is the moderator on this show. > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Al-Quddum is a leader of the Tahrir party in Jordan. > According to Islamist forums, this was the first time a member of the > Tahrir party appeared on a Jordanian television channel. > > > "We Declare Jihad Against... the German State, For Refusing to Allow Islam > to Spread to the People of Germany... We Give Them a Choice: Either to > Convert to Islam â" Or to Pay the Jizya and Submit to the Laws of Islam" > > Interviewer: "Should the Muslims fight the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and > Christians], in order to force them to pay the jizya poll tax? Should the > Muslims fight all the People of the Book worldwide?" > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "This fighting is in order to remove > obstacles. It is waged against countries, not against individuals. When > we declare Jihad against Germany, for instance, it is declared against > the German state, for refusing to allow Islam to spread to the people of > Germany. We give them a choice: Either to convert to Islam, or to pay > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. The jizya is the only tax paid by > non-Muslims, whereas the Muslims pay the zakkat, the kharraj, and the rikkaz, > as well as other taxes, if there is not enough money for the armyâ¦" > > Interviewer: "So why does it come as a surprise that the Europeans fear you, > when you say that we should fight them allâ¦" > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We should fight the states and the armies, not the > peopleâ¦" > > Interviewer: "Exactly, you want to fight the statesâ¦" > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We will not fight the people, we > will not kill the people, but if a certain state insists on preventing > the spread of Islam on its soil, we will fight that state." > > > "There Is Indeed a Clash of Civilizations⦠If Not for Jihad, Islam Would > Not Have Reached Us and All the Other Places" > > Interviewer: "So Samuel Huntington's book The Clash of Civilizations, and > even before that, Fukuyama, who predicted that the next conflict > would be between Islam and the West⦠What you are saying means that they > were rightâ¦" > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "There is indeed a clash of > civilizations. They brought colonialism to us⦠If not for Jihad, Islam > would not have reached us and all the other places. Within a quarter of a > century, Islam reached most of the ancient world by means of Jihad. > "The common people want Islam. Anyone who doesn't can stick to his > own religion. Here in the Levant, most of our forefathers were not > Muslims, but they converted to Islam because of its goodness and > justice. The small minority in the Muslim countries that remainedâ¦" > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." [â¦] > > > "Jihad Should Be Declared In Order to Annihilate Israel; This Is a Monstrous > Entity That Must Be Eradicated" > > Interviewer: "If you come to power, will you liberate Palestine?" > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, yes. Jihad should be declared in order to > annihilate Israel. This is a monstrous entity that must be eradicated." > > Interviewer: "Would you agree to a Christian becoming finance minister, for > example?" > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "No, I wouldn't. For starters, there > are no ministries in Islam. There is an official who is empowered [by > the imam]. This is one of the ruling positions, which are exclusively > for
[proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad)...
Teks bahasa Arabnya: http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman.gif --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad sebagaimana terlihat dari > terjemahan surat nabi babi itu kepada pemimpin Oman yang ada di didinding > benteng Sohar (Sohar Fort) ... > > http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman_e.gif > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: ... We give them a choice: Either to convert to > > Islam, or to pay > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. > > > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > > commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." [â¦] > > > > Hehehe... begitulah cara Islam nyebarin agamanya, serang kafir, paksa > > orang masuk Islam atau mati kalo ga mau tunduk dan bayar jizyah. Betul2 > > agama bejad di sisi auloh. > > > > > > http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5907.htm > > > > > > > > December 12, 2011 Special Dispatch No.4354 > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum of Jordan's Tahrir Party Discusses Jihad Against > > Germany, Pledges to > > Impose 'Jizya' Poll Tax on Non-Muslims, and Vows to Annihilate Israel > > > > Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Ahmad Abu > > Quddum of the Tahrir Party in Jordan, which aired on JoSat TV on > > December 8, 2011. > > JoSat, a private Jordanian channel, is owned by businessman Riyadh > > Al-Huroub. His wife, Rula Al-Huroub, is the moderator on this show. > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Al-Quddum is a leader of the Tahrir party in Jordan. > > According to Islamist forums, this was the first time a member of the > > Tahrir party appeared on a Jordanian television channel. > > > > > > "We Declare Jihad Against... the German State, For Refusing to Allow Islam > > to Spread to the People of Germany... We Give Them a Choice: Either to > > Convert to Islam â" Or to Pay the Jizya and Submit to the Laws of Islam" > > > > Interviewer: "Should the Muslims fight the People of the Book [i.e. Jews > > and Christians], in order to force them to pay the jizya poll tax? Should > > the Muslims fight all the People of the Book worldwide?" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "This fighting is in order to remove > > obstacles. It is waged against countries, not against individuals. When > > we declare Jihad against Germany, for instance, it is declared against > > the German state, for refusing to allow Islam to spread to the people of > > Germany. We give them a choice: Either to convert to Islam, or to pay > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. The jizya is the only tax paid > > by non-Muslims, whereas the Muslims pay the zakkat, the kharraj, and the > > rikkaz, as well as other taxes, if there is not enough money for the > > armyâ¦" > > > > Interviewer: "So why does it come as a surprise that the Europeans fear > > you, when you say that we should fight them allâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We should fight the states and the armies, not > > the peopleâ¦" > > > > Interviewer: "Exactly, you want to fight the statesâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We will not fight the people, we > > will not kill the people, but if a certain state insists on preventing > > the spread of Islam on its soil, we will fight that state." > > > > > > "There Is Indeed a Clash of Civilizations⦠If Not for Jihad, Islam Would > > Not Have Reached Us and All the Other Places" > > > > Interviewer: "So Samuel Huntington's book The Clash of Civilizations, and > > even before that, Fukuyama, who predicted that the next conflict > > would be between Islam and the West⦠What you are saying means that they > > were rightâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "There is indeed a clash of > > civilizations. They brought colonialism to us⦠If not for Jihad, Islam > > would not have reached us and all the other places. Within a quarter of a > > century, Islam reached most of the ancient world by means of Jihad. > > "The common people want Islam. Anyone who doesn't can stick to his > > own religion. Here in the Levant, most of our forefathers were not > > Muslims, but they converted to Islam because of its goodness and > > justice. The small minority in the Muslim countries that remainedâ¦" > > > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > > commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." [â¦] > > > > > > "Jihad Should Be Declared In Order to Annihilate Israel; This Is a > > Monstrous Entity That Must Be Eradicated" > > > > Interviewer: "If you come to power, will you liberate Palestine?" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, yes. Jihad should be declared in order to > > annihilate Israel. This is a monstrous entity t
[proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad)...
Nggak percaya answering-Islam yang dikelola orang kafir? Nih sumber Islam: http://www.huda.tv/articles/prophet-muhammad/123-letter-to-the-king-of-oman --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > Teks bahasa Arabnya: > > http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman.gif > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad sebagaimana terlihat dari > > terjemahan surat nabi babi itu kepada pemimpin Oman yang ada di didinding > > benteng Sohar (Sohar Fort) ... > > > > http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman_e.gif > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: ... We give them a choice: Either to convert > > > to Islam, or to pay > > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. > > > > > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > > > commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." [â¦] > > > > > > Hehehe... begitulah cara Islam nyebarin agamanya, serang kafir, paksa > > > orang masuk Islam atau mati kalo ga mau tunduk dan bayar jizyah. Betul2 > > > agama bejad di sisi auloh. > > > > > > > > > http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5907.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > December 12, 2011 Special Dispatch No.4354 > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum of Jordan's Tahrir Party Discusses Jihad Against > > > Germany, Pledges to > > > Impose 'Jizya' Poll Tax on Non-Muslims, and Vows to Annihilate Israel > > > > > > Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Ahmad Abu > > > Quddum of the Tahrir Party in Jordan, which aired on JoSat TV on > > > December 8, 2011. > > > JoSat, a private Jordanian channel, is owned by businessman Riyadh > > > Al-Huroub. His wife, Rula Al-Huroub, is the moderator on this show. > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Al-Quddum is a leader of the Tahrir party in Jordan. > > > According to Islamist forums, this was the first time a member of the > > > Tahrir party appeared on a Jordanian television channel. > > > > > > > > > "We Declare Jihad Against... the German State, For Refusing to Allow > > > Islam > > > to Spread to the People of Germany... We Give Them a Choice: Either to > > > Convert to Islam â" Or to Pay the Jizya and Submit to the Laws of Islam" > > > > > > Interviewer: "Should the Muslims fight the People of the Book [i.e. Jews > > > and Christians], in order to force them to pay the jizya poll tax? Should > > > the Muslims fight all the People of the Book worldwide?" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "This fighting is in order to remove > > > obstacles. It is waged against countries, not against individuals. When > > > we declare Jihad against Germany, for instance, it is declared against > > > the German state, for refusing to allow Islam to spread to the people of > > > Germany. We give them a choice: Either to convert to Islam, or to pay > > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. The jizya is the only tax paid > > > by non-Muslims, whereas the Muslims pay the zakkat, the kharraj, and the > > > rikkaz, as well as other taxes, if there is not enough money for the > > > armyâ¦" > > > > > > Interviewer: "So why does it come as a surprise that the Europeans fear > > > you, when you say that we should fight them allâ¦" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We should fight the states and the armies, not > > > the peopleâ¦" > > > > > > Interviewer: "Exactly, you want to fight the statesâ¦" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We will not fight the people, we > > > will not kill the people, but if a certain state insists on preventing > > > the spread of Islam on its soil, we will fight that state." > > > > > > > > > "There Is Indeed a Clash of Civilizations⦠If Not for Jihad, Islam > > > Would Not Have Reached Us and All the Other Places" > > > > > > Interviewer: "So Samuel Huntington's book The Clash of Civilizations, and > > > even before that, Fukuyama, who predicted that the next conflict > > > would be between Islam and the West⦠What you are saying means that > > > they were rightâ¦" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "There is indeed a clash of > > > civilizations. They brought colonialism to us⦠If not for Jihad, Islam > > > would not have reached us and all the other places. Within a quarter of a > > > century, Islam reached most of the ancient world by means of Jihad. > > > "The common people want Islam. Anyone who doesn't can stick to his > > > own religion. Here in the Levant, most of our forefathers were not > > > Muslims, but they converted to Islam because of its goodness and > > > justice. The small minority in the Muslim countries that remainedâ¦" > > > > > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > > > commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦"
[proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad)...
Jadi jelas bukan? Islam itu sungguh buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab. Mengerikan. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > Nggak percaya answering-Islam yang dikelola orang kafir? > > Nih sumber Islam: > > http://www.huda.tv/articles/prophet-muhammad/123-letter-to-the-king-of-oman > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > Teks bahasa Arabnya: > > > > http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman.gif > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad sebagaimana terlihat dari > > > terjemahan surat nabi babi itu kepada pemimpin Oman yang ada di didinding > > > benteng Sohar (Sohar Fort) ... > > > > > > http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman_e.gif > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: ... We give them a choice: Either to convert > > > > to Islam, or to pay > > > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we > > > > are commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." [â¦] > > > > > > > > Hehehe... begitulah cara Islam nyebarin agamanya, serang kafir, paksa > > > > orang masuk Islam atau mati kalo ga mau tunduk dan bayar jizyah. Betul2 > > > > agama bejad di sisi auloh. > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5907.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > December 12, 2011 Special Dispatch No.4354 > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum of Jordan's Tahrir Party Discusses Jihad > > > > Against Germany, Pledges to > > > > Impose 'Jizya' Poll Tax on Non-Muslims, and Vows to Annihilate Israel > > > > > > > > Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Ahmad Abu > > > > Quddum of the Tahrir Party in Jordan, which aired on JoSat TV on > > > > December 8, 2011. > > > > JoSat, a private Jordanian channel, is owned by businessman Riyadh > > > > Al-Huroub. His wife, Rula Al-Huroub, is the moderator on this show. > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Al-Quddum is a leader of the Tahrir party in Jordan. > > > > According to Islamist forums, this was the first time a member of the > > > > Tahrir party appeared on a Jordanian television channel. > > > > > > > > > > > > "We Declare Jihad Against... the German State, For Refusing to Allow > > > > Islam > > > > to Spread to the People of Germany... We Give Them a Choice: Either to > > > > Convert to Islam â" Or to Pay the Jizya and Submit to the Laws of > > > > Islam" > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "Should the Muslims fight the People of the Book [i.e. > > > > Jews and Christians], in order to force them to pay the jizya poll tax? > > > > Should the Muslims fight all the People of the Book worldwide?" > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "This fighting is in order to remove > > > > obstacles. It is waged against countries, not against individuals. When > > > > we declare Jihad against Germany, for instance, it is declared against > > > > the German state, for refusing to allow Islam to spread to the people > > > > of Germany. We give them a choice: Either to convert to Islam, or to > > > > pay > > > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. The jizya is the only tax > > > > paid by non-Muslims, whereas the Muslims pay the zakkat, the kharraj, > > > > and the rikkaz, as well as other taxes, if there is not enough money > > > > for the armyâ¦" > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "So why does it come as a surprise that the Europeans fear > > > > you, when you say that we should fight them allâ¦" > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We should fight the states and the armies, > > > > not the peopleâ¦" > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "Exactly, you want to fight the statesâ¦" > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We will not fight the people, we > > > > will not kill the people, but if a certain state insists on preventing > > > > the spread of Islam on its soil, we will fight that state." > > > > > > > > > > > > "There Is Indeed a Clash of Civilizations⦠If Not for Jihad, Islam > > > > Would Not Have Reached Us and All the Other Places" > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "So Samuel Huntington's book The Clash of Civilizations, > > > > and even before that, Fukuyama, who predicted that the next conflict > > > > would be between Islam and the West⦠What you are saying means that > > > > they were rightâ¦" > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "There is indeed a clash of > > > > civilizations. They brought colonialism to us⦠If not for Jihad, > > > > Islam > > > > would not have reached us and all the other places. Within a quarter of > > > > a century, Islam reached most of the ancient world by means of Jihad. > > > > "The common people want Islam. Anyone who doesn't can st
[proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad)...
Dan ajaran yang sungguh buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab itulah yang dianut Abbas Amin, Dipo, johny-Indon, PAREWA PAREWA, rezameutia, Roman Proteus dll.. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > Jadi jelas bukan? > > Islam itu sungguh buas, kejam, keji, zalim, ganas lagi biadab. > > Mengerikan. > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > Nggak percaya answering-Islam yang dikelola orang kafir? > > > > Nih sumber Islam: > > > > http://www.huda.tv/articles/prophet-muhammad/123-letter-to-the-king-of-oman > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > > > > Teks bahasa Arabnya: > > > > > > http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman.gif > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad sebagaimana terlihat dari > > > > terjemahan surat nabi babi itu kepada pemimpin Oman yang ada di > > > > didinding benteng Sohar (Sohar Fort) ... > > > > > > > > http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman_e.gif > > > > > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: ... We give them a choice: Either to > > > > > convert to Islam, or to pay > > > > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. > > > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we > > > > > are commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." > > > > > [â¦] > > > > > > > > > > Hehehe... begitulah cara Islam nyebarin agamanya, serang kafir, > > > > > paksa orang masuk Islam atau mati kalo ga mau tunduk dan bayar > > > > > jizyah. Betul2 agama bejad di sisi auloh. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5907.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > December 12, 2011 Special Dispatch No.4354 > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum of Jordan's Tahrir Party Discusses Jihad > > > > > Against Germany, Pledges to > > > > > Impose 'Jizya' Poll Tax on Non-Muslims, and Vows to Annihilate Israel > > > > > > > > > > Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Ahmad Abu > > > > > Quddum of the Tahrir Party in Jordan, which aired on JoSat TV on > > > > > December 8, 2011. > > > > > JoSat, a private Jordanian channel, is owned by businessman Riyadh > > > > > Al-Huroub. His wife, Rula Al-Huroub, is the moderator on this show. > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Al-Quddum is a leader of the Tahrir party in Jordan. > > > > > According to Islamist forums, this was the first time a member of the > > > > > Tahrir party appeared on a Jordanian television channel. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "We Declare Jihad Against... the German State, For Refusing to Allow > > > > > Islam > > > > > to Spread to the People of Germany... We Give Them a Choice: Either > > > > > to > > > > > Convert to Islam â" Or to Pay the Jizya and Submit to the Laws of > > > > > Islam" > > > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "Should the Muslims fight the People of the Book [i.e. > > > > > Jews and Christians], in order to force them to pay the jizya poll > > > > > tax? Should the Muslims fight all the People of the Book worldwide?" > > > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "This fighting is in order to remove > > > > > obstacles. It is waged against countries, not against individuals. > > > > > When > > > > > we declare Jihad against Germany, for instance, it is declared > > > > > against > > > > > the German state, for refusing to allow Islam to spread to the people > > > > > of Germany. We give them a choice: Either to convert to Islam, or to > > > > > pay > > > > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. The jizya is the only tax > > > > > paid by non-Muslims, whereas the Muslims pay the zakkat, the kharraj, > > > > > and the rikkaz, as well as other taxes, if there is not enough money > > > > > for the armyâ¦" > > > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "So why does it come as a surprise that the Europeans > > > > > fear you, when you say that we should fight them allâ¦" > > > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We should fight the states and the armies, > > > > > not the peopleâ¦" > > > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "Exactly, you want to fight the statesâ¦" > > > > > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We will not fight the people, we > > > > > will not kill the people, but if a certain state insists on > > > > > preventing > > > > > the spread of Islam on its soil, we will fight that state." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "There Is Indeed a Clash of Civilizations⦠If Not for Jihad, Islam > > > > > Would Not Have Reached Us and All the Other Places" > > > > > > > > > > Interviewer: "So Samuel Huntington's book The Clash of Civilizations, > > > > > and even before that, Fukuyama, who predicted that the next c
[proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad)...
Allahnya diriwayatkan sebagai Penipu Akbar... Nabinya kepala gerombolan penyamun dan perampok serta tukang palak... Pengikutnya dan penjilat pantat orang Islam di mailing list ini, termasuk Hasan Basri yang dulu pengeritik islam, jadi tukang fitnah. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: > > Ini kutipan dr buku Muhammad Husain Haekal bab TABUK DAN KEMATIAN IBRAHIM, > nunjukin gimana si keparat pedophile itu jadi tukang palak, bilang bayar atau > ane serbu. Betul2 ajaran rampok tuh. > > > > Ketika itulah Yohanna bin Ru'ba - seorang amir (penguasa) > Aila3 yang tinggal di perbatasan  oleh Nabi telah dikirimi > surat supaya ia tunduk atau akan diserbu. Yohanna datang > sendiri dengan memakai salib dari emas di dadanya. Ia datang > dengan membawa hadiah dan menyatakan setia. Ia mengadakan > perdamaian dengan Muhammad dan bersedia membayar jizya > seperti yang juga dilakukan oleh pihak Jarba'4 dan Adhruh5 > dengan membayar jizya. Di samping itu Rasulullah telah pula > membuat surat-surat perjanjian perdamaian dengan mereka. > Berikut ini salah satu bunyi teks itu, yakni yang dibuat > dengan Yohanna: >  > "Atas nama Allah, Pengasih dan Penyayang. Surat ini ialah > perjanjian keamanan atas nama Tuhan dari Muhammad, Nabi > Utusan Allah kepada Yohanna ibn Ru'ba serta penduduk Aila, > atas kapal-kapal dan kendaraan-kendaraan dalam perjalanan > mereka di darat dan di laut, mereka berada dalam jaminan > Allah dan Muhammad, termasuk mereka penduduk Syam, penduduk > Yaman dan penduduk pantai laut. Barangsiapa melakukan suatu > pelanggaran maka selain dirinya, hartanya itu tidak akan > dapat melindunginya dan Muhammad dibenarkan mengambil itu > dari mereka. Mereka tidak boleh dirintangi dari air yang > dikehendaki atau jalan yang akan ditempuhnya, di darat atau > di laut." >  > Sebagai tanda persetujuan atas perjanjian ini Muhammad telah > pula memberikan hadiah kepada Yohanna berupa mantel tenunan > Yaman disertai perhatian penuh kepadanya, setelah diperoleh > persetujuan bahwa Aila akan membayar jizya sebesar 3000 > dinar tiap tahun. > > > > > >____________________ > > From: Bukan Pedanda > >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com > >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:56 AM > >Subject: [proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi > >babi Muhammad)... > > > > > > > > > >Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad sebagaimana terlihat dari > >terjemahan surat nabi babi itu kepada pemimpin Oman yang ada di didinding > >benteng Sohar (Sohar Fort) ... > > > >http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman_e.gif > > > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: > >> > >> Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum:à... We give them a choice: Either to convert > >> to Islam, or to pay > >> the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. > >> > >> Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > >> commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahââ¬Â¦" > >> > >> Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." > >> [ââ¬Â¦] > >> > >> Hehehe...àbegitulah cara Islam nyebarin agamanya, serang kafir, paksa > >> orang masuk Islam atau mati kalo ga mau tunduk dan bayar jizyah. Betul2 > >> agama bejad di sisi auloh. > >> > >> > >> http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5907.htm > >> > >> > >> > >> December 12, 2011 Special Dispatch No.4354 > >> Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum of Jordan's Tahrir Party Discusses Jihad Against > >> Germany, Pledges to > >> Impose 'Jizya' Poll Tax on Non-Muslims, and Vows to Annihilate Israel > >> > >> Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Ahmad Abu > >> Quddum of the Tahrir Party in Jordan, which aired on JoSat TV on > >> December 8, 2011. > >> JoSat, a private Jordanian channel, is owned by businessman Riyadh > >> Al-Huroub. His wife, Rula Al-Huroub, is the moderator on this show. > >> Sheikh Ahmad Abu Al-Quddum is a leader of the Tahrir party in Jordan. > >> According to Islamist forums, this was the first time a member of the > >> Tahrir party appeared on a Jordanian television channel. > >> > >> > >> "We Declare Jihad Against... the German State, For Refusing to Allow Islam > >> to Spread to th
[proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad)...
Jadi babi ada nabinya, anjing ada nabinya ! Jadi pasti itulah otak yang ngerti tulisan si debil ! Karena nabi segala binatang ! dan nama nabi dari babi itu pastinya utusanalah yah !? --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad sebagaimana terlihat dari > terjemahan surat nabi babi itu kepada pemimpin Oman yang ada di didinding > benteng Sohar (Sohar Fort) ... > > http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman_e.gif > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: ... We give them a choice: Either to convert to > > Islam, or to pay > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. > > > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > > commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." [â¦] > > > > Hehehe... begitulah cara Islam nyebarin agamanya, serang kafir, paksa > > orang masuk Islam atau mati kalo ga mau tunduk dan bayar jizyah. Betul2 > > agama bejad di sisi auloh. > > > > > > http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5907.htm > > > > > > > > December 12, 2011 Special Dispatch No.4354 > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum of Jordan's Tahrir Party Discusses Jihad Against > > Germany, Pledges to > > Impose 'Jizya' Poll Tax on Non-Muslims, and Vows to Annihilate Israel > > > > Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Ahmad Abu > > Quddum of the Tahrir Party in Jordan, which aired on JoSat TV on > > December 8, 2011. > > JoSat, a private Jordanian channel, is owned by businessman Riyadh > > Al-Huroub. His wife, Rula Al-Huroub, is the moderator on this show. > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Al-Quddum is a leader of the Tahrir party in Jordan. > > According to Islamist forums, this was the first time a member of the > > Tahrir party appeared on a Jordanian television channel. > > > > > > "We Declare Jihad Against... the German State, For Refusing to Allow Islam > > to Spread to the People of Germany... We Give Them a Choice: Either to > > Convert to Islam â" Or to Pay the Jizya and Submit to the Laws of Islam" > > > > Interviewer: "Should the Muslims fight the People of the Book [i.e. Jews > > and Christians], in order to force them to pay the jizya poll tax? Should > > the Muslims fight all the People of the Book worldwide?" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "This fighting is in order to remove > > obstacles. It is waged against countries, not against individuals. When > > we declare Jihad against Germany, for instance, it is declared against > > the German state, for refusing to allow Islam to spread to the people of > > Germany. We give them a choice: Either to convert to Islam, or to pay > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. The jizya is the only tax paid > > by non-Muslims, whereas the Muslims pay the zakkat, the kharraj, and the > > rikkaz, as well as other taxes, if there is not enough money for the > > armyâ¦" > > > > Interviewer: "So why does it come as a surprise that the Europeans fear > > you, when you say that we should fight them allâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We should fight the states and the armies, not > > the peopleâ¦" > > > > Interviewer: "Exactly, you want to fight the statesâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We will not fight the people, we > > will not kill the people, but if a certain state insists on preventing > > the spread of Islam on its soil, we will fight that state." > > > > > > "There Is Indeed a Clash of Civilizations⦠If Not for Jihad, Islam Would > > Not Have Reached Us and All the Other Places" > > > > Interviewer: "So Samuel Huntington's book The Clash of Civilizations, and > > even before that, Fukuyama, who predicted that the next conflict > > would be between Islam and the West⦠What you are saying means that they > > were rightâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "There is indeed a clash of > > civilizations. They brought colonialism to us⦠If not for Jihad, Islam > > would not have reached us and all the other places. Within a quarter of a > > century, Islam reached most of the ancient world by means of Jihad. > > "The common people want Islam. Anyone who doesn't can stick to his > > own religion. Here in the Levant, most of our forefathers were not > > Muslims, but they converted to Islam because of its goodness and > > justice. The small minority in the Muslim countries that remainedâ¦" > > > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > > commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." [â¦] > > > > > > "Jihad Should Be Declared In Order to Annihilate Israel; This Is a > > Monstrous Entity That Must Be Eradicated" > > > > Interviewer: "If you come to power, will you liberate Palestine?" > > > > Sheikh Ahmad
[proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad)...
Pergilah berobat ke psikiater Abbas Amin... Anda jelas sudah nggak waras. Mengerti ungkapan "nabi babi" saja anda sudah tidak sanggup. Pergilan berobat sebelum terlembat. --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Abbas" wrote: > > Jadi babi ada nabinya, anjing ada nabinya ! > Jadi pasti itulah otak yang ngerti tulisan si debil ! > Karena nabi segala binatang ! dan nama nabi dari babi itu pastinya utusanalah > yah !? > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, "Bukan Pedanda" wrote: > > > > > > Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad sebagaimana terlihat dari > > terjemahan surat nabi babi itu kepada pemimpin Oman yang ada di didinding > > benteng Sohar (Sohar Fort) ... > > > > http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman_e.gif > > > > --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: ... We give them a choice: Either to convert > > > to Islam, or to pay > > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. > > > > > > Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are > > > commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allahâ¦" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." [â¦] > > > > > > Hehehe... begitulah cara Islam nyebarin agamanya, serang kafir, paksa > > > orang masuk Islam atau mati kalo ga mau tunduk dan bayar jizyah. Betul2 > > > agama bejad di sisi auloh. > > > > > > > > > http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5907.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > December 12, 2011 Special Dispatch No.4354 > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum of Jordan's Tahrir Party Discusses Jihad Against > > > Germany, Pledges to > > > Impose 'Jizya' Poll Tax on Non-Muslims, and Vows to Annihilate Israel > > > > > > Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Ahmad Abu > > > Quddum of the Tahrir Party in Jordan, which aired on JoSat TV on > > > December 8, 2011. > > > JoSat, a private Jordanian channel, is owned by businessman Riyadh > > > Al-Huroub. His wife, Rula Al-Huroub, is the moderator on this show. > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Al-Quddum is a leader of the Tahrir party in Jordan. > > > According to Islamist forums, this was the first time a member of the > > > Tahrir party appeared on a Jordanian television channel. > > > > > > > > > "We Declare Jihad Against... the German State, For Refusing to Allow > > > Islam > > > to Spread to the People of Germany... We Give Them a Choice: Either to > > > Convert to Islam â" Or to Pay the Jizya and Submit to the Laws of Islam" > > > > > > Interviewer: "Should the Muslims fight the People of the Book [i.e. Jews > > > and Christians], in order to force them to pay the jizya poll tax? Should > > > the Muslims fight all the People of the Book worldwide?" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "This fighting is in order to remove > > > obstacles. It is waged against countries, not against individuals. When > > > we declare Jihad against Germany, for instance, it is declared against > > > the German state, for refusing to allow Islam to spread to the people of > > > Germany. We give them a choice: Either to convert to Islam, or to pay > > > the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. The jizya is the only tax paid > > > by non-Muslims, whereas the Muslims pay the zakkat, the kharraj, and the > > > rikkaz, as well as other taxes, if there is not enough money for the > > > armyâ¦" > > > > > > Interviewer: "So why does it come as a surprise that the Europeans fear > > > you, when you say that we should fight them allâ¦" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We should fight the states and the armies, not > > > the peopleâ¦" > > > > > > Interviewer: "Exactly, you want to fight the statesâ¦" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "We will not fight the people, we > > > will not kill the people, but if a certain state insists on preventing > > > the spread of Islam on its soil, we will fight that state." > > > > > > > > > "There Is Indeed a Clash of Civilizations⦠If Not for Jihad, Islam > > > Would Not Have Reached Us and All the Other Places" > > > > > > Interviewer: "So Samuel Huntington's book The Clash of Civilizations, and > > > even before that, Fukuyama, who predicted that the next conflict > > > would be between Islam and the West⦠What you are saying means that > > > they were rightâ¦" > > > > > > Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "There is indeed a clash of > > > civilizations. They brought colonialism to us⦠If not for Jihad, Islam > > > would not have reached us and all the other places. Within a quarter of a > > > century, Islam reached most of the ancient world by means of Jihad. > > > "The common people want Islam. Anyone who doesn't can stick to his > > > own religion. Here in the Levant, most of our forefathers were not > > > Muslims, but they converted to Islam because of its goodness and > > > justice. The small minority in the Muslim countries that remainedâ¦" > > > > > > Interviewer: "Fine.
Re: [proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad)...
Ini kutipan dr buku Muhammad Husain Haekal bab TABUK DAN KEMATIAN IBRAHIM, nunjukin gimana si keparat pedophile itu jadi tukang palak, bilang bayar atau ane serbu. Betul2 ajaran rampok tuh. Ketika itulah Yohanna bin Ru'ba - seorang amir (penguasa) Aila3 yang tinggal di perbatasan oleh Nabi telah dikirimi surat supaya ia tunduk atau akan diserbu. Yohanna datang sendiri dengan memakai salib dari emas di dadanya. Ia datang dengan membawa hadiah dan menyatakan setia. Ia mengadakan perdamaian dengan Muhammad dan bersedia membayar jizya seperti yang juga dilakukan oleh pihak Jarba'4 dan Adhruh5 dengan membayar jizya. Di samping itu Rasulullah telah pula membuat surat-surat perjanjian perdamaian dengan mereka. Berikut ini salah satu bunyi teks itu, yakni yang dibuat dengan Yohanna: "Atas nama Allah, Pengasih dan Penyayang. Surat ini ialah perjanjian keamanan atas nama Tuhan dari Muhammad, Nabi Utusan Allah kepada Yohanna ibn Ru'ba serta penduduk Aila, atas kapal-kapal dan kendaraan-kendaraan dalam perjalanan mereka di darat dan di laut, mereka berada dalam jaminan Allah dan Muhammad, termasuk mereka penduduk Syam, penduduk Yaman dan penduduk pantai laut. Barangsiapa melakukan suatu pelanggaran maka selain dirinya, hartanya itu tidak akan dapat melindunginya dan Muhammad dibenarkan mengambil itu dari mereka. Mereka tidak boleh dirintangi dari air yang dikehendaki atau jalan yang akan ditempuhnya, di darat atau di laut." Sebagai tanda persetujuan atas perjanjian ini Muhammad telah pula memberikan hadiah kepada Yohanna berupa mantel tenunan Yaman disertai perhatian penuh kepadanya, setelah diperoleh persetujuan bahwa Aila akan membayar jizya sebesar 3000 dinar tiap tahun. > > From: Bukan Pedanda >To: proletar@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 4:56 AM >Subject: [proletar] Re: Jihad dan jizyah (Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi >babi Muhammad)... > > > > >Contoh yang diberikan oleh nabi babi Muhammad sebagaimana terlihat dari >terjemahan surat nabi babi itu kepada pemimpin Oman yang ada di didinding >benteng Sohar (Sohar Fort) ... > >http://www.answering-islam.org/Muhammad/oman_e.gif > >--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, item abu wrote: >> >> Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: ... We give them a choice: Either to convert to >> Islam, or to pay >> the jizya and submit to the laws of Islam. >> >> Interviewer: "Fine. Let me just ask you an important question. So, we are >> commanded to fight in order to spread the religion of Allah…" >> >> Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "Yes, this is Islam's way of spreading." […] >> >> Hehehe... begitulah cara Islam nyebarin agamanya, serang kafir, paksa >> orang masuk Islam atau mati kalo ga mau tunduk dan bayar jizyah. Betul2 >> agama bejad di sisi auloh. >> >> >> http://www.memri.org/report/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5907.htm >> >> >> >> December 12, 2011 Special Dispatch No.4354 >> Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum of Jordan's Tahrir Party Discusses Jihad Against >> Germany, Pledges to >> Impose 'Jizya' Poll Tax on Non-Muslims, and Vows to Annihilate Israel >> >> Following are excerpts from an interview with Sheikh Ahmad Abu >> Quddum of the Tahrir Party in Jordan, which aired on JoSat TV on >> December 8, 2011. >> JoSat, a private Jordanian channel, is owned by businessman Riyadh >> Al-Huroub. His wife, Rula Al-Huroub, is the moderator on this show. >> Sheikh Ahmad Abu Al-Quddum is a leader of the Tahrir party in Jordan. >> According to Islamist forums, this was the first time a member of the >> Tahrir party appeared on a Jordanian television channel. >> >> >> "We Declare Jihad Against... the German State, For Refusing to Allow Islam >> to Spread to the People of Germany... We Give Them a Choice: Either to >> Convert to Islam â€" Or to Pay the Jizya and Submit to the Laws of Islam" >> >> Interviewer: "Should the Muslims fight the People of the Book [i.e. Jews and >> Christians], in order to force them to pay the jizya poll tax? Should the >> Muslims fight all the People of the Book worldwide?" >> >> Sheikh Ahmad Abu Quddum: "This fighting is in order to remove >> obstacles. It is waged against countries, not against individuals. When >> we declare Jihad against Germany, for instance, it is declared against >> the German state, for refusing to allow Islam to spread to the people of >> Germany. We give them a choice: Either to convert to Islam, or to pay >> the jizya and submit to the laws of