[proletar] Re: M SYARIF CIREBON DAN BAHAYA LATENT ISLAM

2011-04-20 Terurut Topik Wong

Selama Islam masih menjadi Idiologi politik, selama itu pula Islam merupkan 
ancaman dalam kehidupan berbangsa dan bernegara. Jadi masih akan ada bom lain 
selain bom Cirebon, sebab seperti kesimpulan pemerhatidunia ISLAM ADALAH BAHAYA 
LATEN.

Rahayu


--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote:

 Selain M Syarif yang jadi pembom masjid di Cirebon, ini satu lagi dari sekian 
 ribu dan juta bukti bahwa ISLAM ADALAH BAHAYA LATENT UTNUK ANAK-ANAK KITA 
 MANUSIA yang BERADAB.
 Semua anak kita dalam bahaya dicuci otaknya, jadi brutal dan gila, pembunuh 
 dan penjahat atas nama Allah. Mengapa?? Itulah MEMANG PERBUATAN DAN TELADAN 
 NABI MUHAMMAD SAW.
 
 
 American jihad: Facing up to homegrown militancy
 By Jonny Dymond BBC News, USA
 
 19 April 2011 Last updated at 00:08 GMT
 
 In the years after 9/11 the threat to America from Islamist militants seemed 
 to
 come exclusively from abroad, but recent events have disproved that 
 assumption -
 and posed the question how to prevent the radicalisation of Muslim immigrants.
 Omar Hammami Omar Hammami learned about his Muslim background on a visit to
 Syria as a teenager
 
 The town of Daphne in the state of Alabama is one of the last places you would
 associate with violent jihad.
 
 It is a place of ease and comfort, tidy and prosperous. Large houses sit well
 back from the road, sprawling lazily in the trees in the warm spring sunshine.
 In front of many homes and shops the Stars and Stripes hangs, barely moving in
 the late afternoon stillness.
 
 Here Omar Hammami grew up, an all-American boy, baptised and church-going.
 
 Here he discarded his upbringing and religion and turned to an ever more
 orthodox Islam.
 
 And here he began a journey that has taken him to the wilds of Somalia, and a
 high profile position in al-Shabab, the brutal Islamist insurgent group.
 Syria visit
 
 Few would have predicted it.
 
 His dad is Syrian, a Sunni Muslim, his mom's a Southern Baptist, from a 
 little
 tiny town down here. His mom would take him to church and stuff like that, 
 his
 schoolfriend, James Culveyhouse, explains.
 
 Omar Hammami was popular at school, quick witted and charismatic, elected
 president of his school year.
 Continue reading the main story
 Find out more
 
 * American Jihad is on BBC Radio 4 on 19 April at 2000 BST
 * And on 24 April at 1700 BST
 * You can also listen on the iPlayer
 
 * Listen on the iPlayer
 
 Things started to change when Hammami visited Syria as a teenager.
 
 When he went on vacation he started to realise, I'm not just American, I've 
 got
 this other side to me. He read more and more and by the time he was 15 he was
 like, 'I wanna be a Muslim,' Culveyhouse says.
 
 Over the years Omar Hammami became an adherent of stricter and stricter Islam 
 -
 turning far more orthodox than his father.
 
 Eventually both Hammami and Culveyhouse moved to Toronto, which has a large
 Somali community.
 
 There, says Culveyhouse, Omar Hammami's Islam became powerfully politicised.
 
 What happened to Omar Hammami is important because homegrown jihad is 
 becoming a
 problem for the US.
 
 For years Americans believed themselves isolated from what seemed, in the 
 West,
 a European problem.
 
 But there have been a number of cases that show this is no longer so:
 
 * Dozens of young men have left the Somali community in Minnesota to wage
 war in Somalia
 
 * Adam Gadahn grew up in California, converted to Islam and now speaks for
 al-Qaeda in Pakistan
 
 * Faisal Shahzad lived in the US for a decade before attempting to bomb
 Times Square in New York City
 
 * And Major Nidal Hassan, born in the state of Virginia, became a doctor and
 a US soldier - now he stands accused of killing 13 people and wounding 29 
 others
 in a shooting spree at Fort Hood in Texas
 
 Muslim diversity
 
 Al-Qaeda until now used to be a foreign threat, says Peter Neumann, the
 director of the International Centre for Radicalisation at Kings College 
 London,
 currently in Washington DC.
 James Culveyhouse James Culveyhouse saw the gradual change in his friend Omar
 Hammami
 
 Now that al-Qaeda threat has become more homegrown, it raises questions about
 how to deal with certain communities. Americans are not used to that.
 
 The experiences of American Muslims - an estimated 1% of the population - are
 wildly different.
 
 Mia Bloom, a fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Terrorism at
 Penn State University gives the contrasting examples of Somali refugees and
 Pakistani immigrants in the US.
 
 Immigrants from Pakistan to New Jersey often join an existing community that
 helps them to integrate, she explains, whereas refugees, especially refugees
 from war-torn areas like Somalia, have a very different kind of assimilation
 process.
 
 The debate about Muslim immigration and radicalisation has been rumbling for
 some time now in the US.
 
 The strong reactions to a proposed Islamic centre and mosque near the site of
 the 

[proletar] Re: M SYARIF CIREBON DAN BAHAYA LATENT ISLAM

2011-04-20 Terurut Topik Jusfiq

Ya inilah salah satu masaalah dengan agama anjing Islam itu: tidak adanya 
pemisahan urusan agama dari urusan politik...

Beda dengan pemahaman ajaran Nasrani yang dianut gereja katolik Roma dan gereja 
anggota WCC yang memisahkan urusan agama dari urusan negara.
 

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, Wong wong_gendeng05@... wrote:

 
 Selama Islam masih menjadi Idiologi politik, selama itu pula Islam merupkan 
 ancaman dalam kehidupan berbangsa dan bernegara. Jadi masih akan ada bom lain 
 selain bom Cirebon, sebab seperti kesimpulan pemerhatidunia ISLAM ADALAH 
 BAHAYA LATEN.
 
 Rahayu
 
 
 --- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@ wrote:
 
  Selain M Syarif yang jadi pembom masjid di Cirebon, ini satu lagi dari 
  sekian ribu dan juta bukti bahwa ISLAM ADALAH BAHAYA LATENT UTNUK ANAK-ANAK 
  KITA MANUSIA yang BERADAB.
  Semua anak kita dalam bahaya dicuci otaknya, jadi brutal dan gila, pembunuh 
  dan penjahat atas nama Allah. Mengapa?? Itulah MEMANG PERBUATAN DAN TELADAN 
  NABI MUHAMMAD SAW.
  
  
  American jihad: Facing up to homegrown militancy
  By Jonny Dymond BBC News, USA
  
  19 April 2011 Last updated at 00:08 GMT
  
  In the years after 9/11 the threat to America from Islamist militants 
  seemed to
  come exclusively from abroad, but recent events have disproved that 
  assumption -
  and posed the question how to prevent the radicalisation of Muslim 
  immigrants.
  Omar Hammami Omar Hammami learned about his Muslim background on a visit to
  Syria as a teenager
  
  The town of Daphne in the state of Alabama is one of the last places you 
  would
  associate with violent jihad.
  
  It is a place of ease and comfort, tidy and prosperous. Large houses sit 
  well
  back from the road, sprawling lazily in the trees in the warm spring 
  sunshine.
  In front of many homes and shops the Stars and Stripes hangs, barely moving 
  in
  the late afternoon stillness.
  
  Here Omar Hammami grew up, an all-American boy, baptised and church-going.
  
  Here he discarded his upbringing and religion and turned to an ever more
  orthodox Islam.
  
  And here he began a journey that has taken him to the wilds of Somalia, and 
  a
  high profile position in al-Shabab, the brutal Islamist insurgent group.
  Syria visit
  
  Few would have predicted it.
  
  His dad is Syrian, a Sunni Muslim, his mom's a Southern Baptist, from a 
  little
  tiny town down here. His mom would take him to church and stuff like that, 
  his
  schoolfriend, James Culveyhouse, explains.
  
  Omar Hammami was popular at school, quick witted and charismatic, elected
  president of his school year.
  Continue reading the main story
  Find out more
  
  * American Jihad is on BBC Radio 4 on 19 April at 2000 BST
  * And on 24 April at 1700 BST
  * You can also listen on the iPlayer
  
  * Listen on the iPlayer
  
  Things started to change when Hammami visited Syria as a teenager.
  
  When he went on vacation he started to realise, I'm not just American, 
  I've got
  this other side to me. He read more and more and by the time he was 15 he 
  was
  like, 'I wanna be a Muslim,' Culveyhouse says.
  
  Over the years Omar Hammami became an adherent of stricter and stricter 
  Islam -
  turning far more orthodox than his father.
  
  Eventually both Hammami and Culveyhouse moved to Toronto, which has a large
  Somali community.
  
  There, says Culveyhouse, Omar Hammami's Islam became powerfully politicised.
  
  What happened to Omar Hammami is important because homegrown jihad is 
  becoming a
  problem for the US.
  
  For years Americans believed themselves isolated from what seemed, in the 
  West,
  a European problem.
  
  But there have been a number of cases that show this is no longer so:
  
  * Dozens of young men have left the Somali community in Minnesota to wage
  war in Somalia
  
  * Adam Gadahn grew up in California, converted to Islam and now speaks for
  al-Qaeda in Pakistan
  
  * Faisal Shahzad lived in the US for a decade before attempting to bomb
  Times Square in New York City
  
  * And Major Nidal Hassan, born in the state of Virginia, became a doctor and
  a US soldier - now he stands accused of killing 13 people and wounding 29 
  others
  in a shooting spree at Fort Hood in Texas
  
  Muslim diversity
  
  Al-Qaeda until now used to be a foreign threat, says Peter Neumann, the
  director of the International Centre for Radicalisation at Kings College 
  London,
  currently in Washington DC.
  James Culveyhouse James Culveyhouse saw the gradual change in his friend 
  Omar
  Hammami
  
  Now that al-Qaeda threat has become more homegrown, it raises questions 
  about
  how to deal with certain communities. Americans are not used to that.
  
  The experiences of American Muslims - an estimated 1% of the population - 
  are
  wildly different.
  
  Mia Bloom, a fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Terrorism 
  at
  Penn State University gives the contrasting examples of 

Re: [proletar] Re: M SYARIF CIREBON DAN BAHAYA LATENT ISLAM

2011-04-20 Terurut Topik ayub yahya
kesalahan FATAL ummat islam, melibatkan agamanya sbg ideologi negara,
agama diimplementasikan pada aktivitas politik dan moral.
Celakanya, ummat islam sebagai ummat mayoritas di negeri ini tidak punya
ketegasan dalam menyikapi oknum2 islam-radikal
 
Ummat islam radikal, se-olah2 sengaja dimanfaatkan sebagai Tentara-Islam
bener2 latent eksistensinya...
Tentara islam dibilang ada salah, dibilang tidak-ada... nyatanya ada.
Terbukti dgn adanya bom bunuh diri di Cirebon !

--- On Wed, 4/20/11, Wong wong_genden...@yahoo.com wrote:



   




Selama Islam masih menjadi Idiologi politik, selama itu pula Islam merupkan 
ancaman dalam kehidupan berbangsa dan bernegara. Jadi masih akan ada bom lain 
selain bom Cirebon, sebab seperti kesimpulan pemerhatidunia ISLAM ADALAH BAHAYA 
LATEN.

Rahayu

--- In proletar@yahoogroups.com, pemerhatidunia pemerhatidunia@... wrote:

 Selain M Syarif yang jadi pembom masjid di Cirebon, ini satu lagi dari sekian 
 ribu dan juta bukti bahwa ISLAM ADALAH BAHAYA LATENT UTNUK ANAK-ANAK KITA 
 MANUSIA yang BERADAB.
 Semua anak kita dalam bahaya dicuci otaknya, jadi brutal dan gila, pembunuh 
 dan penjahat atas nama Allah. Mengapa?? Itulah MEMANG PERBUATAN DAN TELADAN 
 NABI MUHAMMAD SAW.
 
 
 American jihad: Facing up to homegrown militancy
 By Jonny Dymond BBC News, USA
 
 19 April 2011 Last updated at 00:08 GMT
 
 In the years after 9/11 the threat to America from Islamist militants seemed 
 to
 come exclusively from abroad, but recent events have disproved that 
 assumption -
 and posed the question how to prevent the radicalisation of Muslim immigrants.
 Omar Hammami Omar Hammami learned about his Muslim background on a visit to
 Syria as a teenager
 
 The town of Daphne in the state of Alabama is one of the last places you would
 associate with violent jihad.
 
 It is a place of ease and comfort, tidy and prosperous. Large houses sit well
 back from the road, sprawling lazily in the trees in the warm spring sunshine.
 In front of many homes and shops the Stars and Stripes hangs, barely moving in
 the late afternoon stillness.
 
 Here Omar Hammami grew up, an all-American boy, baptised and church-going.
 
 Here he discarded his upbringing and religion and turned to an ever more
 orthodox Islam.
 
 And here he began a journey that has taken him to the wilds of Somalia, and a
 high profile position in al-Shabab, the brutal Islamist insurgent group.
 Syria visit
 
 Few would have predicted it.
 
 His dad is Syrian, a Sunni Muslim, his mom's a Southern Baptist, from a 
 little
 tiny town down here. His mom would take him to church and stuff like that, 
 his
 schoolfriend, James Culveyhouse, explains.
 
 Omar Hammami was popular at school, quick witted and charismatic, elected
 president of his school year.
 Continue reading the main story
 Find out more
 
 * American Jihad is on BBC Radio 4 on 19 April at 2000 BST
 * And on 24 April at 1700 BST
 * You can also listen on the iPlayer
 
 * Listen on the iPlayer
 
 Things started to change when Hammami visited Syria as a teenager.
 
 When he went on vacation he started to realise, I'm not just American, I've 
 got
 this other side to me. He read more and more and by the time he was 15 he was
 like, 'I wanna be a Muslim,' Culveyhouse says.
 
 Over the years Omar Hammami became an adherent of stricter and stricter Islam 
 -
 turning far more orthodox than his father.
 
 Eventually both Hammami and Culveyhouse moved to Toronto, which has a large
 Somali community.
 
 There, says Culveyhouse, Omar Hammami's Islam became powerfully politicised.
 
 What happened to Omar Hammami is important because homegrown jihad is 
 becoming a
 problem for the US.
 
 For years Americans believed themselves isolated from what seemed, in the 
 West,
 a European problem.
 
 But there have been a number of cases that show this is no longer so:
 
 * Dozens of young men have left the Somali community in Minnesota to wage
 war in Somalia
 
 * Adam Gadahn grew up in California, converted to Islam and now speaks for
 al-Qaeda in Pakistan
 
 * Faisal Shahzad lived in the US for a decade before attempting to bomb
 Times Square in New York City
 
 * And Major Nidal Hassan, born in the state of Virginia, became a doctor and
 a US soldier - now he stands accused of killing 13 people and wounding 29 
 others
 in a shooting spree at Fort Hood in Texas
 
 Muslim diversity
 
 Al-Qaeda until now used to be a foreign threat, says Peter Neumann, the
 director of the International Centre for Radicalisation at Kings College 
 London,
 currently in Washington DC.
 James Culveyhouse James Culveyhouse saw the gradual change in his friend Omar
 Hammami
 
 Now that al-Qaeda threat has become more homegrown, it raises questions about
 how to deal with certain communities. Americans are not used to that.
 
 The experiences of American Muslims - an estimated 1% of the population - are
 wildly different.
 
 Mia Bloom, a fellow at the International Centre for the Study of Terrorism at
 Penn