Balasan: [proletar] Things Allowed With the Hijab-Ambon kayak
Layaknya kristen tipikal yang dungu dan dengki .. kali ini Ambon --lagi-lagi-- bawa sobekan koran bekas .. berisi hal-hal yang ngga pantas diurusnya ... Ambon [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: http://www.arabnews.com/?page=5section=0article=73015d=13m=11y=2005 Friday, 11, November, 2005 (09, Shawwal, 1426) Things Allowed With the Hijab Adil Salahi, Arab News Q. Is it permissible for a Muslim woman to wear make-up when she goes out wearing the hijab? Is she allowed to wear an ornamented dress? N. Sultana A. Scholars have wide differences with regard to the first point. Many scholars, particularly contemporary ones, take a very strict view, maintaining that a Muslim woman must not be seen wearing make-up by any man other than those of her relatives whom she is forbidden to marry. Other scholars say that wearing decent make-up that is not designed to attract people's gazes is permissible. Both groups support their views with the same Qur'anic verse that defines how Muslim women should appear. The verse in question states: Tell believing women to lower their gaze and to be mindful of their chastity, and not to display their charms except what may ordinarily appear thereof. Let them draw their head-coverings over their bosoms and not display their charms to any but their husbands, or their fathers, or their husbands' fathers, or their sons, or their husbands' sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or those whom they rightfully possess, or such male attendants as are free of physical desire, or children that are as yet unaware of women's nakedness. Let them not swing their legs in walking so as to draw attention to their hidden charms. Believers, turn to God in repentance, so that you may achieve success. (24: 31) The operative clause in this connection is that believing women must not display their charms except what may ordinarily appear thereof. Scholars understand the phrase what may ordinarily appear thereof in different ways. Some say that it refers to the overall shape of the woman, such as her height and aspects of her figure that are not disguised by clothes. These say that wearing make-up is not permissible. Others say that it refers to the face and the arms. Ibn Abbas goes further to say that it means the face, arms, kohl and the coloring a woman wears. Kohl is a black stuff used as make up for the eyes. The coloring he refers to is a red color which women may wear on their hands or faces. As for the second point, concerning ornamented dress, I am not clear what is meant by ornament in this phrase. If it refers to ornaments that are put on clothes such as a broche, then these are permissible, unless they contain something to make them otherwise. If, on the other hand, it refers to printed material, then the design should be of decent nature. Although some societies impose certain colors on women's clothes, such as black, dark blue or gray, the fact is that Islam does not require such restrictions. All decent colors are permissible. What we mean by decent is that which is considered to be decent in one's community. A woman's clothes must be such as not to be eye-catching or inviting criticism or a hard gaze. Otherwise, there is no particular restriction on color. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/ - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group proletar on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Lelah menerima spam? Surat Yahoo! memiliki perlindungan terbaik terhadap spam http://id.mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/uTGrlB/TM ~- Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/proletar/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Balasan: [proletar] Things Allowed With the Hijab-Ambon kayak
Lihat sendiri bagaimana kuman-kuman Ahmad Deedat membuatmu menjadi kambing gila berotak udang terdahap tulisan dari Arab Saudia. - Original Message - From: PAREWA PAREWA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: proletar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 4:50 PM Subject: Balasan: [proletar] Things Allowed With the Hijab-Ambon kayak Layaknya kristen tipikal yang dungu dan dengki .. kali ini Ambon --lagi-lagi-- bawa sobekan koran bekas .. berisi hal-hal yang ngga pantas diurusnya ... Ambon [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: http://www.arabnews.com/?page=5section=0article=73015d=13m=11y=2005 Friday, 11, November, 2005 (09, Shawwal, 1426) Things Allowed With the Hijab Adil Salahi, Arab News Q. Is it permissible for a Muslim woman to wear make-up when she goes out wearing the hijab? Is she allowed to wear an ornamented dress? N. Sultana A. Scholars have wide differences with regard to the first point. Many scholars, particularly contemporary ones, take a very strict view, maintaining that a Muslim woman must not be seen wearing make-up by any man other than those of her relatives whom she is forbidden to marry. Other scholars say that wearing decent make-up that is not designed to attract people's gazes is permissible. Both groups support their views with the same Qur'anic verse that defines how Muslim women should appear. The verse in question states: Tell believing women to lower their gaze and to be mindful of their chastity, and not to display their charms except what may ordinarily appear thereof. Let them draw their head-coverings over their bosoms and not display their charms to any but their husbands, or their fathers, or their husbands' fathers, or their sons, or their husbands' sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or those whom they rightfully possess, or such male attendants as are free of physical desire, or children that are as yet unaware of women's nakedness. Let them not swing their legs in walking so as to draw attention to their hidden charms. Believers, turn to God in repentance, so that you may achieve success. (24: 31) The operative clause in this connection is that believing women must not display their charms except what may ordinarily appear thereof. Scholars understand the phrase what may ordinarily appear thereof in different ways. Some say that it refers to the overall shape of the woman, such as her height and aspects of her figure that are not disguised by clothes. These say that wearing make-up is not permissible. Others say that it refers to the face and the arms. Ibn Abbas goes further to say that it means the face, arms, kohl and the coloring a woman wears. Kohl is a black stuff used as make up for the eyes. The coloring he refers to is a red color which women may wear on their hands or faces. As for the second point, concerning ornamented dress, I am not clear what is meant by ornament in this phrase. If it refers to ornaments that are put on clothes such as a broche, then these are permissible, unless they contain something to make them otherwise. If, on the other hand, it refers to printed material, then the design should be of decent nature. Although some societies impose certain colors on women's clothes, such as black, dark blue or gray, the fact is that Islam does not require such restrictions. All decent colors are permissible. What we mean by decent is that which is considered to be decent in one's community. A woman's clothes must be such as not to be eye-catching or inviting criticism or a hard gaze. Otherwise, there is no particular restriction on color. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/ - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group proletar on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Lelah menerima spam? Surat Yahoo! memiliki perlindungan terbaik terhadap spam http://id.mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/uTGrlB/TM
Re: Balasan: [proletar] Things Allowed With the Hijab-Ambon kayak
Ni orang betul-betul udah nggak ketulungan: menyampaikan berita dari koran Arabpun dianggap bawa sobekan koran bekas .. berisi hal-hal yang ngga pantas diurusnya ... On 13 Nov 2005, at 22:50, PAREWA PAREWA wrote: Layaknya kristen tipikal yang dungu dan dengki .. kali ini Ambon --lagi-lagi-- bawa sobekan koran bekas .. berisi hal-hal yang ngga pantas diurusnya ... Ambon [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: http://www.arabnews.com/?page=5section=0article=73015d=13m=11y=2005 Friday, 11, November, 2005 (09, Shawwal, 1426) Things Allowed With the Hijab Adil Salahi, Arab News Q. Is it permissible for a Muslim woman to wear make-up when she goes out wearing the hijab? Is she allowed to wear an ornamented dress? N. Sultana A. Scholars have wide differences with regard to the first point. Many scholars, particularly contemporary ones, take a very strict view, maintaining that a Muslim woman must not be seen wearing make-up by any man other than those of her relatives whom she is forbidden to marry. Other scholars say that wearing decent make-up that is not designed to attract people's gazes is permissible. Both groups support their views with the same Qur'anic verse that defines how Muslim women should appear. The verse in question states: Tell believing women to lower their gaze and to be mindful of their chastity, and not to display their charms except what may ordinarily appear thereof. Let them draw their head-coverings over their bosoms and not display their charms to any but their husbands, or their fathers, or their husbands' fathers, or their sons, or their husbands' sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or those whom they rightfully possess, or such male attendants as are free of physical desire, or children that are as yet unaware of women's nakedness. Let them not swing their legs in walking so as to draw attention to their hidden charms. Believers, turn to God in repentance, so that you may achieve success. (24: 31) The operative clause in this connection is that believing women must not display their charms except what may ordinarily appear thereof. Scholars understand the phrase what may ordinarily appear thereof in different ways. Some say that it refers to the overall shape of the woman, such as her height and aspects of her figure that are not disguised by clothes. These say that wearing make-up is not permissible. Others say that it refers to the face and the arms. Ibn Abbas goes furt her to say that it means the face, arms, kohl and the coloring a woman wears. Kohl is a black stu ff used as make up for the eyes. The coloring he refers to is a red color which women may wear on t heir hands or faces. As for the second point, concerning ornamented dress, I am not clear what is meant by or nament in this phrase. If it refers to ornaments that are put on clothes such as a broche, then th ese are permissible, unless they contain something to make them otherwise. If, on the other hand, i t refers to printed material, then the design should be of decent nature. Although some societies i mpose certain colors on women's clothes, such as black, dark blue or gray, the fact is that Islam d oes not require such restrictions. All decent colors are permissible. What we mean by decent is that which is considered to be decent in one's community. A woman 's clothes must be such as not to be eye-catching or inviting criticism or a hard gaze. Otherwise, there is no particular restriction on color. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/ - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group proletar on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Lelah menerima spam? Surat Yahoo! memiliki perlindungan terbaik terhadap spam http://id.mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links Jusfiq Hadjar gelar Sutan Maradjo Lelo == Orang Islam tipikal kudu sadar bahwa al-Mushaf itu TIDAK berbukti berisi wahyu Allah dan hadits itu mustahil ada yang sahih, artinya nabi Muhammad itu hanyalah tokoh fiktif Yahoo!
Re: Balasan: [proletar] Things Allowed With the Hijab-Ambon kayak
Ni orang betul-betul udah nggak ketulungan: menyampaikan berita dari koran Arabpun dianggap bawa sobekan koran bekas .. berisi hal-hal yang ngga pantas diurusnya ... On 13 Nov 2005, at 22:50, PAREWA PAREWA wrote: Layaknya kristen tipikal yang dungu dan dengki .. kali ini Ambon --lagi-lagi-- bawa sobekan koran bekas .. berisi hal-hal yang ngga pantas diurusnya ... Ambon [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis: http://www.arabnews.com/?page=5section=0article=73015d=13m=11y=2005 Friday, 11, November, 2005 (09, Shawwal, 1426) Things Allowed With the Hijab Adil Salahi, Arab News Q. Is it permissible for a Muslim woman to wear make-up when she goes out wearing the hijab? Is she allowed to wear an ornamented dress? N. Sultana A. Scholars have wide differences with regard to the first point. Many scholars, particularly contemporary ones, take a very strict view, maintaining that a Muslim woman must not be seen wearing make-up by any man other than those of her relatives whom she is forbidden to marry. Other scholars say that wearing decent make-up that is not designed to attract people's gazes is permissible. Both groups support their views with the same Qur'anic verse that defines how Muslim women should appear. The verse in question states: Tell believing women to lower their gaze and to be mindful of their chastity, and not to display their charms except what may ordinarily appear thereof. Let them draw their head-coverings over their bosoms and not display their charms to any but their husbands, or their fathers, or their husbands' fathers, or their sons, or their husbands' sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or those whom they rightfully possess, or such male attendants as are free of physical desire, or children that are as yet unaware of women's nakedness. Let them not swing their legs in walking so as to draw attention to their hidden charms. Believers, turn to God in repentance, so that you may achieve success. (24: 31) The operative clause in this connection is that believing women must not display their charms except what may ordinarily appear thereof. Scholars understand the phrase what may ordinarily appear thereof in different ways. Some say that it refers to the overall shape of the woman, such as her height and aspects of her figure that are not disguised by clothes. These say that wearing make-up is not permissible. Others say that it refers to the face and the arms. Ibn Abbas goes furt her to say that it means the face, arms, kohl and the coloring a woman wears. Kohl is a black stu ff used as make up for the eyes. The coloring he refers to is a red color which women may wear on t heir hands or faces. As for the second point, concerning ornamented dress, I am not clear what is meant by or nament in this phrase. If it refers to ornaments that are put on clothes such as a broche, then th ese are permissible, unless they contain something to make them otherwise. If, on the other hand, i t refers to printed material, then the design should be of decent nature. Although some societies i mpose certain colors on women's clothes, such as black, dark blue or gray, the fact is that Islam d oes not require such restrictions. All decent colors are permissible. What we mean by decent is that which is considered to be decent in one's community. A woman 's clothes must be such as not to be eye-catching or inviting criticism or a hard gaze. Otherwise, there is no particular restriction on color. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/ - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group proletar on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - __ Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Lelah menerima spam? Surat Yahoo! memiliki perlindungan terbaik terhadap spam http://id.mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Post message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe : [EMAIL PROTECTED] List owner : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://proletar.8m.com/ Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/uTGrlB/TM ~- Post message:
