Re: [prometheus-developers] Re: Retract Prometheus server for OpenBSD

2022-06-14 Thread Julien Pivotto
There is a proposed fix, but it has not yet been reviewed.

Le mar. 14 juin 2022, 15:54, David Leadbeater  a écrit :

> [+claudio, openbsd port maintainer]
>
> It has been a year since Julien's message above, given there hasn't
> been a fix for this issue I think we should more strongly warn people
> before they consider running Prometheus on OpenBSD.
>
> Please would it be possible to put a note on the Prometheus port that
> Prometheus upstream cannot currently recommend Prometheus on OpenBSD,
> due to data corruption issues.
>
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 23:46, Julien Pivotto 
> wrote:
> >
> > Note: I am obviously also happy if someone from the community is willing
> > to do the work, or to provide any other kind of help to make this work
> > again.
> >
> > If the facts in the github issues are not correct and you run Prometheus
> > 2.19+ on OpenBSD without issue, please let us know as well.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > On 15 Jun 15:38, Julien Pivotto wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > It seems that Prometheus for OpenBSD is no longer working since
> > > Prometheus 2.19.
> > > The sementics around memory mapping are very different from the other
> > > operating systems. The experts in the github issue have tracked this
> > > down to the lack of a unified buffer cache for mmap for OpenBSD.
> > >
> > > This seems to me that Prometheus simply does not work on that platform.
> > >
> > > I propose we remove OpenBSD from the Prometheus build and release
> list, and add CI
> > > for other OS', like freebsd etc.
> > >
> > > If the community wants to add support back, we would need benchmarks to
> > > see the impact on the other operating systems of the proposed solution.
> > >
> > > https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/issues/8799
> > > https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/issues/8877
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > --
> > > Julien Pivotto
> > > @roidelapluie
> >
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Re: [prometheus-developers] Re: Retract Prometheus server for OpenBSD

2022-06-14 Thread David Leadbeater
[+claudio, openbsd port maintainer]

It has been a year since Julien's message above, given there hasn't
been a fix for this issue I think we should more strongly warn people
before they consider running Prometheus on OpenBSD.

Please would it be possible to put a note on the Prometheus port that
Prometheus upstream cannot currently recommend Prometheus on OpenBSD,
due to data corruption issues.

On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 23:46, Julien Pivotto  wrote:
>
> Note: I am obviously also happy if someone from the community is willing
> to do the work, or to provide any other kind of help to make this work
> again.
>
> If the facts in the github issues are not correct and you run Prometheus
> 2.19+ on OpenBSD without issue, please let us know as well.
>
> Thanks.
>
> On 15 Jun 15:38, Julien Pivotto wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > It seems that Prometheus for OpenBSD is no longer working since
> > Prometheus 2.19.
> > The sementics around memory mapping are very different from the other
> > operating systems. The experts in the github issue have tracked this
> > down to the lack of a unified buffer cache for mmap for OpenBSD.
> >
> > This seems to me that Prometheus simply does not work on that platform.
> >
> > I propose we remove OpenBSD from the Prometheus build and release list, and 
> > add CI
> > for other OS', like freebsd etc.
> >
> > If the community wants to add support back, we would need benchmarks to
> > see the impact on the other operating systems of the proposed solution.
> >
> > https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/issues/8799
> > https://github.com/prometheus/prometheus/issues/8877
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > --
> > Julien Pivotto
> > @roidelapluie
>
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Re: [prometheus-developers] What if Prometheus to Scape Anything from Anywhere with embedded Zero Trust?

2022-06-14 Thread Rudford Hamon
Thank you for the feedback and help Bjoren @bjo...@rabenste.in. I only care
about helping people and that's why I personally love OSS.

Is there anything pending or plans that we can help contribute as
developers to collectively align with the group? For OSS love, we just
zitified Prometheus endpoints to help pull metrics there as well to keep
bad actors from lurking to scan and exploit the community.

Here is the write up:
https://openziti.github.io/ziti/metrics/prometheus.html




On Tue, Jun 14, 2022 at 6:58 AM Bjoern Rabenstein 
wrote:

> On 10.06.22 17:48, Rudford Hamon wrote:
> > Yes :) What would be the best approach to see adoption and letting the
> > community collectively know/try?
>
> I guess you did the right thing already. A web search for "openziti
> prometheus" gives tons of relevant results and discussions.
>
> This list (prometheus-developers@) is aimed at the developers of
> Prometheus (which seemed appropriate at first as the initial
> discussion was around a zitified Prometheus binary). If you are more
> interested in talking to _users_ of Prometheus (to help them with the
> tunnel sidecar), the sister list prometheus-us...@googlegroups.com
> might be a better fit. And there are more community channels, see
> https://prometheus.io/community/ .
>
> Pitching a commercial product there is frowned upon, but as long as
> you are sticking to an OSS project like OpenZiti, and your posts stay
> relevant and to the point, I would assume it's OK to spread the news
> via those channels.
>
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Re: [prometheus-developers] What if Prometheus to Scape Anything from Anywhere with embedded Zero Trust?

2022-06-14 Thread Stuart Clark

On 14/06/2022 11:58, Bjoern Rabenstein wrote:

On 10.06.22 17:48, Rudford Hamon wrote:

Yes :) What would be the best approach to see adoption and letting the
community collectively know/try?




Pitching a commercial product there is frowned upon, but as long as
you are sticking to an OSS project like OpenZiti, and your posts stay
relevant and to the point, I would assume it's OK to spread the news
via those channels.


The only things I'd say is to ensure you have the right expectations. 
There might be some people on the list who are interested, but I'd 
expect the vast majority probably don't have the time/interest/need for 
such a solution. So you might have a few people asking for a bit more 
information, but I wouldn't expect much to happen after your posting.


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Re: [prometheus-developers] What if Prometheus to Scape Anything from Anywhere with embedded Zero Trust?

2022-06-14 Thread Bjoern Rabenstein
On 10.06.22 17:48, Rudford Hamon wrote:
> Yes :) What would be the best approach to see adoption and letting the
> community collectively know/try?

I guess you did the right thing already. A web search for "openziti
prometheus" gives tons of relevant results and discussions.

This list (prometheus-developers@) is aimed at the developers of
Prometheus (which seemed appropriate at first as the initial
discussion was around a zitified Prometheus binary). If you are more
interested in talking to _users_ of Prometheus (to help them with the
tunnel sidecar), the sister list prometheus-us...@googlegroups.com
might be a better fit. And there are more community channels, see
https://prometheus.io/community/ .

Pitching a commercial product there is frowned upon, but as long as
you are sticking to an OSS project like OpenZiti, and your posts stay
relevant and to the point, I would assume it's OK to spread the news
via those channels.

-- 
Björn Rabenstein
[PGP-ID] 0x851C3DA17D748D03
[email] bjo...@rabenste.in

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