[protest-ro] Rom^nul antisemit vinovat de Holocaust

2005-03-01 Fir de Conversatie Benedetto Schiavone



Cam asta i-ar fi imaginea:
http://www.jurnalul.ro/modules/pnCPG/coppermine/albums/userpics/10001/P1010002%7E0.jpg

Nu e de mirare ca ungurul il caracteriza
drept: olah (adica tigan, nespalat,
necivilzat, infect, hot, bandit etc.)

"burghezia. Desi numeric, la momentul anilor '30, aceasta categorie nu
depasea 0,12% din totalul populatiei, in mainile sale era concentrata
intreaga putere de decizie politica si economica."


0,12% din populatia tarii conducea
Romania. Toate deciziile erau in mana
unei minoritati: financiara, latifundiara,
intelectuala.


"In 1930, conform datelor din Anuarul Statistic al Romaniei, la o
populatie de peste 18 milioane de locuitori, existau 10.000 de mosieri
(proprietari de loturi mai mari de 100 ha), doar 3.000 de mari
industriasi (detinatori ai intreprinderilor mai mari de 5.000 de
muncitori) si 2.000 de comercianti reprezentativi. Ei beneficiau,
insa, de un avantaj: o impresionanta forta de munca ieftina – taranii."

Restul, adica grosul, adica marea masa
a rom^nilor, cei care NU conduceau, cei
care NU luau decizii, cei care NU faceau
politica fiindca erau analfabeti, 
erau fascistii, erau nazistii, erau
cei care au impins Romania in razboiul
fascist anti-sovietic si anti-semit.

Ei, adica grosul de analfabeti, sunt
vinovati pentru Holocaustul comunist.

Cum zicea Elie Wiesel: "Poporul rom^n a ucis, a ucis, a ucis"
adresandu-se copiilor de rom^ni care l-au intimpinat
cu paine si apa la Sighet. El le reamintea pe buna
dreptate, acestor copii de analfabeti, care NU aveau
nici o putere in mana, ca parintii lor, analfabetii,
au UCIS. De ce? Fiindca nu aveau puterea decizionala.
Logic.

Motiv ca organizatia lui Simon Wiesenthal a oferit $1
cetatenilor rom^ni sa desconspire pe criminalii rom^ni
vinovati de Holocaustul rom^nesc.

Dupa cate stim, pana in momentul de fata, poporul rom^n,
cel ticalos, dintr-o solidaritate criminala ce-l caracterizeaza,
refuza impotriva oricarei logici materiale (tentatia unui
castig usor de $1) sa ofere pe tava vreun criminal.

Tovarase cbjola, ne adresam pe aceasta cale dumitale, 
campionul luptei si desconspirarii nazistilor si fascistilor
din Romania sa iei atitudine. Te rugam in mod popular,
partinic si patriotic proletar sa desconspiri pe dusmanii
poporului, pe dusmanii ascunsi printre noi.

Traiasca Pacea!
Jos Ucigasii!
Jos Nazismul!

Uraa!



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[protest-ro] File - Setari ale listei si alte informatii - mesaj lunar

2005-03-01 Fir de Conversatie protest-ro


Ca de obicei, va reamintesc unele setari ale listei
(in caz ca, totusi, va descurcati greu, puteti sa-mi cereti detalii pe 
personala, sau la [EMAIL PROTECTED])

- USER-NAME-ul vostru este adresa de e-mail cu care v-ati inscris;
- PAROLA o stiti (in caz ca nu v-ati ales-o voi, aveti una generata automat 
care v-a fost trimisa intr-un e-mail, la inceput). Daca ati uitat-o, puteti 
cere una noua de pe site.
- PAGINA GAZDA: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro
- CITITI ARHIVA LA: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/messages
- ITI POTI MODIFICA SETARILE (trecere pe mod digest, web ori poti adauga adrese 
de e-mail alternative): http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups
De aici puteti merge la "delivery options" ori la "preferences".

- trimiteti mesaje: protest-ro@yahoogroups.com
- trecere (prin e-mail) la mod digest: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
- trecere (prin e-mail) la mod web (fara e-mailuri): [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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- adaugati link-uri(bookmarks): 
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- adaugati fisiere (sau le accesati pe cele existente): 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/files
- creati un sondaj de opinie (sau votati in cele existente): 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/polls
- creati o baza de date ori adaugati ceva la cea existenta: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/database
- stati la taclale cu altii de pe lista la: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/chat
- puneti un link pe pagina voastra de web: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/protest-ro/promote

Aceia dintre Dvs. care vor sa acceseze paginile pe Internet trebuie sa-si ia un 
ID de la yahoo; in caz ca nu stiti cum se procedeaza, intrebati si vi se va 
raspunde:-))

Unele reguli (pe care degeaba le pun pentru ca veti protesta la ideea de 
"regula"):
1. Incercati sa protestati cu folos, sa nu dati in ãi de pe lista ci mai mult 
in ãilanti si sa vorbiti pe cat posibil in romaneste, cand nu folositi alte 
limbi!
2. Nu includeti decat STRICT NECESARUL din mesajul original, cand dati reply!
Lista este in prezent nemoderata insa - daca va abuza cineva nerespectand cea 
de-a doua regula - voi trece la moderari partiale, asa cum am mai procedat! :-)
3. Incercati sa treceti la "subiect" urmatoarele:
OT = off-topic
LINK = adresa catre un link interesant
PREZ = prezentare nou membru (in caz ca doriti, oricum n-au facut-o prea multi)
INFO = informatie
(mai inventati si voi!)

In prezent, pe site exista mai multe link-uri catre pagini legate de ideea de 
protest; tin sa le multumesc d-lor Bjola si Branea care ni le-au indicat pe 
cele mai bune!
Exista, de asemenea, cateva fisiere, unele interesante; Uitati-va la 
"formularul pentru usurarea protestului" (format html) facut de Iulian si mai 
veniti cu idei)
(acum am observat ca se vede prea putin cand folositi butonul "fa-o!" - dar 
puteti insista, nu va luati dupa mesaj, Iulian are un simtz al umorului mai 
special:-)
Exista un frame de site al listei, la www.arin.fox.ro/protest; asteapta si 
acela sugestii (la admin se intra cu usernameul codruta si parola codrutza dar 
tot nu gasiti mare lucru, pana nu propuneti)
Nu-i rau (daca v-a suparat cineva:-) nici fisierul zipat de pe site-ul 
grupului("exemplu de atitudine protestatara") pus de mine; nu va recomand 
neaparat sa-l urmati, desi uneori nu strica :-))
In baza de date sunt cam sase persoane (zic "cam" deoarece trei nu stiu... dar 
uitati-va si veti afla)
Au fost create mai multe sondaje de opinie; multe sunt deja inchise dar se pot 
crea altele (v-as ruga sa le lasati deschise :-)
In prezent sunt peste 300 membri insa nu chiar:))
Pentru ca, de exemplu, eu sunt inscrisa (pentru siguranta) cu 3 conturi si mai 
sunt si altii in situatia asta; estimez, totusi, ca suntem cam 220 "pe bune".
Cum ii spusesem d-lui Bjola: sunt "persoane importante" pe lista - si anume 
TOTI MEMBRII LISTEI:)
Numai bine, si protestati cu folos!
:-)
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[protest-ro] A-nnebunit ursu'!

2005-03-01 Fir de Conversatie valachus per skorilo

The Arabs' Berlin Wall has crumbled
By Mark Steyn
(Filed: 01/03/2005)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jhtml?xml=/opinion/2005/03/01/do0102.xml&sSheet=/opinion/2005/03/01/ixop.html

Three years ago - April 6 2002, if you want to rummage through the old 
Spectators in the attic - I wrote: "The stability junkies in the EU, UN and 
elsewhere have, as usual, missed the point. The Middle East is too stable. So, 
if you had to pick only one regime to topple, why not Iraq? Once you've got rid 
of the ruling gang, it's the West's best shot at incubating a reasonably 
non-insane polity. That's why the unravelling of the Middle East has to start 
not in the West Bank but in Baghdad."

I don't like to say I told you so. But, actually, I do like to say I told you 
so. What I don't like to do is the obligatory false self-deprecatory thing to 
mitigate against the insufferableness of my saying I told you so. But 
nevertheless I did.

Consider just the past couple of days' news: not the ever more desperate 
depravity of the floundering "insurgency", but the real popular Arab resistance 
the car-bombers and the head-hackers are flailing against: the Saudi foreign 
minister, who by remarkable coincidence goes by the name of Prince Saud, told 
Newsweek that women would be voting in the next Saudi election. "That is going 
to be good for the election," he said, "because I think women are more sensible 
voters than men."

Four-time Egyptian election winner - and with 90 per cent of the vote! - 
President Mubarak announced that next polling day he wouldn't mind an opponent. 
Ordering his stenographer to change the constitution to permit the first 
multi-choice presidential elections in Egyptian history, His Excellency said 
the country would benefit from "more freedom and democracy". The state-run TV 
network hailed the president's speech as a "historical decision in the nation's 
7,000-year-old march toward democracy". After 7,000 years on the march, they're 
barely out of the parking lot, so Mubarak's move is, as they say, a step in the 
right direction.

Meanwhile in Damascus, Boy Assad, having badly overplayed his hand in Lebanon 
and after months of denying that he was harbouring any refugee Saddamites, 
suddenly discovered that - wouldja believe it? - Saddam's brother and 29 other 
bigshot Baghdad Baathists were holed up in north-eastern Syria, and promptly 
handed them over to the Iraqi government.

And, for perhaps the most remarkable development, consider this report from 
Mohammed Ballas of Associated Press: "Palestinians expressed anger on Saturday 
at an overnight suicide bombing in Tel Aviv that killed four Israelis and 
threatened a fragile truce, a departure from former times when they welcomed 
attacks on their Israeli foes."

No disrespect to Associated Press, but I was disinclined to take their word for 
it. However, Charles Johnson, whose Little Green Footballs website has done an 
invaluable job these past three years presenting the ugly truth about 
Palestinian death-cultism, reported that he went hunting around the internet 
for the usual photographs of deliriously happy Gazans dancing in the street and 
handing out sweets to celebrate the latest addition to the pile of Jew corpses 
- and, to his surprise, couldn't find any.

Why is all this happening? Answer: January 30. Don't take my word for it, 
listen to Walid Jumblatt, big-time Lebanese Druze leader and a man of 
impeccable anti-American credentials: "I was cynical about Iraq. But when I saw 
the Iraqi people voting three weeks ago, eight million of them, it was the 
start of a new Arab world. The Berlin Wall has fallen."

Just so. Left to their own devices, the House of Saud - which demanded all US 
female air-traffic controllers be stood down for Crown Prince Abdullah's flight 
to the Bush ranch in Crawford - would stick to their traditional line that 
Wahhabi women have no place in a voting booth; instead, they have to dress like 
a voting booth - a big black impenetrable curtain with a little slot to drop 
your ballot through. Likewise, Hosni Mubarak has no desire to take part in 
campaign debates with Hosno Name-Recognition. Boy Assad has no desire to hand 
over his co-Baathists to the Great Satan's puppets in Baghdad.

But none of them has much of a choice. In the space of a month, the Iraq 
election has become the prism through which all other events in the region are 
seen.

Assad's regime knocks off a troublemaker in Lebanon. Big deal. They've done it 
a gazillion times. But this time the streets are full of demonstrators 
demanding an end to Syrian occupation.

A suicide bomber kills four Jews. So what's new? But this time the Palestinians 
decline to celebrate. And some even question whether being a delivery system 
for plastic explosives is really all life has to offer, even on the West Bank.

Mubarak announces the arrest of an opposition leader. Like, who cares? The 
jails are full of 'em. But this time Condi Rice cancels her v