[protest-ro] musca-ma cu patima

2005-02-26 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


Patima, stimabila. Vreau sa vad patima. Musca-ma sa-mi sara sangele.
Ce faci tu se cheama lalaiala ... Zau asa, poti mai mult. 

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[protest-ro] Re: Autocontrolul prin cultura - Oltenia

2005-02-26 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


O singura mica diferenta de nuanta, distinsa atotstiutoare,
moldoveanul si brasoveanul sunt de aceeasi rasa.  
Cat despre teleintelectual si lista ... musca-ma! Dar cu patima, nu
asa de dorul lelii.

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[protest-ro] Re: Autocontrolul prin cultura - Oltenia

2005-02-26 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


--- In protest-ro@yahoogroups.com, "Codruta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> inseamna RASISM!!!
> 
> Codruta
> 

yups - dam cu cuvintele la deal si la vale ca o sa ne admire tzatza
Floarea. 
Altfel spus, sa mergem la definitia cuvantului. Ca sa nu ajungem
precum Bill Clintrabuc, definim relatiile interumane ca orice altceva
decat ceea ce sunt, doar pentru a ne atinge scopul.

RASÍSM n. 1) Teorie social-politică care susţine inegalitatea
biologică şi intelectuală a raselor umane. 2) Acţiune de 
discriminare
rasială. 

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[protest-ro] Fwd: Am nevoie de ajutorul vostru!

2005-02-13 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "octavian_ciutacu"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Dragii mei,

Am citit astazi in Toronto Star de o fata care a fost adoptata la 9
ani din Romania de o familie canadiana dar a trebuit sa fIe re-trimisa
inapoi in tara. Fata acum are 22 de ani dar statul roman i-a retras
cetatenia romana dar fara acordul ei cind ea a fost adoptata de
familia canadiana. Cititi mai jos articolul si haideti sa facem o
scrisoare ministerelor abilitate ca aceasta persoana sa-si recapete
cetatenia romana. Este o rusine ca un roman nascut in Romania sa i se
retraga cetatenia fara acordul lui/ei. Aici este articolul. O sa dea
la CBC un reportaj despre fata asta. 

Cu bine Octavian 

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?
pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1108163414897&cal
l_pageid=968332188492&col=968793972154&DPL=IvsNDS%
2f7ChAX&tacodalogin=yes


Feb. 12, 2005. 08:36 AM 
 
  
Alexandra Austin, who is now 22, was adopted by an Ontario couple 
when she was nine but later put back on a plane to Romania. 
 
Return to sender: An orphan's tale
Crises spur families to open homes

But not all are ready for challenge


OLIVIA WARD
FEATURE WRITER

The sight of a sobbing orphan stranded in a landscape of death and 
disaster moves people deeply. With each new tragedy, well-to-do 
Westerners search their souls about how to rescue needy children, 
and the adoption agency phones work overtime.

The recent Asian tsunami was a case in point. In many Western 
countries, would-be parents have set off for the stricken region in 
the hope of bringing home a child. In Ontario, the government waived 
its adoption fee, and Ottawa promised to expedite the immigration 
process for children whose relatives in Canada wanted to adopt them.

Many foreign adoptions are a source of joy for parents and children. 
But what happens when adoption goes badly wrong?

In the early 1990s, after the fall of the Berlin Wall and the 
collapse of communism, images of emaciated Romanian children, and 
other East European orphans, evoked enormous response from emotional 
audiences in North America. 

But, says filmmaker Mary Anne Alton, "there were some serious 
mistakes made because people reacted without thinking of the 
problems they'd face. Children are very vulnerable, especially in 
turbulent regions. But they may be damaged, too, and they may not be 
what the adoptive parents are expecting."

Alton's film, Return to Sender, will be shown Monday on CBC's The 
Passionate Eye. It tells the extraordinary story of Alexandra 
Austin, a 22-year-old Romanian woman adopted at age 9 by well-to-do 
Ontarians, and five months later put back on the plane to Romania.

"One day (my) adoptive mother was very upset, and said, `You're 
going to Romania,'" Alexandra told Alton. "I said, `I don't 
understand' ... and in a couple of days, they put me on the airplane 
like a packet and sent me back."

The child's confusion soon turned to anguish. On return she was cast 
off by her native country, which considered her a Canadian citizen, 
although Canada had never granted her citizenship. Denied the right 
to education, health care or the use of her original name in 
Romania, Austin has lived a blighted life as a non-person, the 
victim of identity theft for which no one claims responsibility.

Now a young mother herself, unemployed and with only a Grade 3 
education, she wonders bitterly why her onetime Canadian parents 
wanted to take her from her impoverished family.

"Alexandra dropped through the cracks," said Alton. "It's as though 
she fell into the Atlantic Ocean after she boarded that plane. To 
all intents and purposes, she doesn't exist."

Austin's adoption was unusual among the thousands of foreign 
adoptions that occur each year in Canada, says Robin Hilborn, editor 
and publisher of Family Helper magazine, which aids adopting 
families.

"The great majority of those adoptions are done in a normal, legal 
manner and work out very well," he says.

But he points out that, for children like Alexandra, there are still 
gaps that allow for a similar situation to happen today: "If you 
adopt, and it's legalized abroad, then the child is legally yours 
when you arrive in Canada. So there won't be any visits from social 
workers to check on how the child is adjusting."

Canadian-born adopted children are protected by provincial rules, 
which designate a six-month monitoring period by child welfare 
authorities, until the adoption is finalized. Social workers have 
been known to check even inside parents' refrigerators to make sure 
the children are properly fed. If they are abandoned, they can be 
readopted or put into foster care.

But citizenship regulations, too, allowed Austin to become 
stateless. Under current legislation, a child must be admitted to 
Canada as a "permanent resident." Parents then apply for 
citizenship — something that failed to happen when Austin was 
adopted. (A new Citizenship Act is mooted, with rules grantin

[protest-ro] Politica si nevoia de a explica scenarii

2004-12-26 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


Era o vreme cand politica se facea mult mai simplu. Aveai nu aveai
treaba, Duminica, in ziua libera, deci, mergeai la Poiana lu' Iocan si
cu ziarul in mana, ca unica sursa de informare, faceai politica.
In zilele noastre totul se complica. Varietatea si multitudinea
surselor de informare/dezinformare, ca si nevoia autoimpusa de a
explica totul prin prizma analizei scenariilor, face din dezbaterea
politica actuala  o nelipsita experienta cotidiana.
Este lasata la o parte, parand ca nu ar mai avea nici o semnificatie,
declaratia politica, de nelinistea gasirii unei explicatii cat mai
"scenaristice" posibil la semnificatia temporala a actului intalnirii.
Din dorinta de a imbraca scenariul propiu in mantia plauzibilitatii se
accentueaza momente si se omit declaratii, inversand astfel scara
valorica a importantei actiunilor politice.
Tot din aceleasi considerente se da importanta unor aspecte care tin
mai mult de perceptia adevarului decat de adevarul in sine.
Dar sa revenim la cazul concret al intalnirilor si declaratiilor
noului  Presedente al Romaniei.
Se uita cu buna stiinta ca prima intalnire a Presedintelui Basescu a
fost cu conducerea Uniunii Europene, mai mult chiar, intalnirea a avut
loc la sediul acestei organizatii.
Ambasadorul Germaniei la Bucuresti ca si cel al Republicii Democratice
Congo sau al oricarui alt stat, reprezinta interesele tarii sale in
Romania si nu cele ale unei organizatii politice sau economice din
care tara sa face parte. 
Daca, gresit, am considera astfel, se poate afirma ca Basescu nu a
avut intalnirea cu UE nici dupa ce se va intalni cu ambasadorii
Frantei si Germaniei, nu inca, deoarece nu a avut intalniri cu
ambasadorii tuturor statelor membre.
Cat despre cat de bine este sau nu este sa negociezi - sau sa
renegociezi - aspecte ale apartenentei la o Uniune, nu acesta este
aspectul principal. Important este cat de bine pregatit esti pentru a
avea succes in astfel de actiuni, care-si au locul firesc in contextul
dat al procesului aderarii si apartenentei Romaniei la UE. Asta daca
dorim ca Romania sa se alature Uniunii Europene si nu dorim sa se
inchine ei, cum, pe vremuri, se inchina Inaltei Porti Otomane.

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[protest-ro] Fwd: La Multi Ani! - Sarbatori Fericite!

2004-12-19 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine



Pentru toti, inclusiv pentru cei pe care, cu sau fara voie, i-am
suparat, un sincer, La Multi Ani!

Sarbatori Fericite!

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[protest-ro] Re: Theodor Banu

2004-12-19 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


Daca ceea ce afirmi dumneata despre mine si RWW este adevarat,
inseamna ca nu este nici o problema in as fi deschisa arhiva RWW de pe
yahoo. In acest fel se va putea vedea cat de partinitor am fost eu si
cum am incalcat regulamentul. Se poate sa se deschida acea arhiva,
Domnule Banu? Daca nu se poate ... 
Cat despre faptul ca eu critic RWW, este adevarat ca o fac atunci cand
consider ca este cazul, cum la fel de adevarat este ca sustin ceea ce
consider ca este de sustinut, chiar daca vine si de la RWW. 
Cum as putea sa nu critic, cand RWW are bunul simt sa felicite
presedintele ales al Romaniei si sa-si prezinte adeziunea si mandria
patriotica, in acelasi stil in care canta PSD-ul si gloriosul guvern
Nastase.

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PS. Cand o sa verificati arhiva o sa constatati ca mutatul Dunarii cu
paharul vine de la Florentina Verbint/Ilie. 





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[protest-ro] Re: MONOPOLUL MEDIA AMERICAN, PE INTELESUL TUTUROR (II)

2004-12-12 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Bogdan-Ioan Stanciu"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>  - materialul integral - 
> 
> MONOPOLUL MEDIA AMERICAN, PE INTELESUL TUTUROR
> 
> apartenenta corporatista si problemele din mass-media americana
> 
> -

de vazut si de unde vin banii:
http://www.mediatransparency.org/

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[protest-ro] OT - ajutor pentru Cristina

2004-12-10 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


skynet
Posted: 30 November 2004 at 2:37pm | IP Logged  Quote skynet

salut,
va rog sa dati click pe

 http://cristina.wilnaarvalencia.com/GUI/default.aspx?control =personal

si apoi sa votati pe " STEM MIJ NAAR VALENCIA" .
este un cadou pt fiica mea. pe 5 decembrie este ziua ei de nastere.
va multumesc!

vio ionescu, un roman din belgia

===
Cristina va merge intr-o vacanta in Valencia, daca va reusi sa adune
cat mai multe voturi. Tot ce ne costa este un clic pe "STEM MIJ NAAR
VALENCIA".

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[protest-ro] PROTEST

2004-12-04 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


Idiotul de puscas marin american a fost lasat sa plece din Romania.
 
TEO PETER ESTE MORT - sa-i fie tarana usoara!

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[protest-ro] Flash-mob, reloaded*

2004-12-03 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


Operatiunea "Balonul Local"

*pentru ca oamenii inteligenti prefera sa incerce toate alternativele
inainte de flash-mob revolutions

Dupa succesul primei intalniri-fulger din Bucuresti, cu pufuleti si
bomboane, e timpul pentru o noua intalnire.

Unde si cand:
Ne vom intâlni Duminica, 5 decembrie, ora 12.00, in Piata
Universitatii, in fata cortului de campanie PSD
Vom pleca fix la 12.10, dupa exact zece minute.

Ce vom face:
Fiecare invitat va avea la el cate un balon albastru.
Este preferabil ca balonul sa nu aiba nici un insemn, dar se accepta
si baloane albastre cu PSD, fiind la indemna.
La ora 12.10, toata lumea va sparge sau va dezumfla propriul balon
albastru, apoi vom pleca fiecare in directii diferite.

Pe parcursul celor 10 minute:
- Nu se vor striga lozinci politice. De fapt este preferat sa nu se
strige deloc si sa se vorbeasca cat mai putin.
- Nu se va raspunde la nici o provocare sau instigare venita de la
orice persoana, cu sau fara balon albastru
- Nu se vor spune cuvinte necivilizate sau injuraturi
- Nu se vor face nici un fel de instigari.
- Se va discuta civilizat si se va pastra linistea publica.

De ce facem asta?

Dupa cum spune numele operatiunii, vrem sa studiem efectele
Dezumflarii Balonului Local
Aceasta nu este o actiune aliniata politic, si nu este pornita sau
sustinuta de nici un partid, fractiune au asociatie cu pozitie politica.
Aceasta este o intalnire privata intr-un loc public intre oameni
inteligenti si cu umor care studiaza efectele dezumflarii Balonului
Local si nimic mai mult.

Va rugam sa trimitei invitatia mai departe tuturor persoanelor
apropiate despre care stiti ca accepta sa primeasca mesaje de la
dumneavoastra si pe care le considerati interesate de studiul
dezumflarii balonului local.

In ultimul moment am aflat de intalnirile din Iasi (piata Unirii) si
Timisoara (piata Operei) la aceeasi ora. Enjoy!





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[protest-ro] Re: iliescu la chicago

2004-12-03 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


poze - iliescu la chicago

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[protest-ro] Re: iliescu la chicago

2004-12-03 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


incerc


--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Codruta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> E foarte mica, nu se distinge mai nimic
> Nu aveti una mai mare?
> 
> Codruta
> 
> --  
> "Let me, at least, to know that she'll try
> Then she'll be a true love of mine"
> 
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[protest-ro] iliescu la chicago

2004-12-03 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


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[protest-ro] Re: ce-ati zice

2004-11-08 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


ce te faci daca ploua?


-- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Codruta Nedelcu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> Dat fiind ca v-ati inghesuit sa faceti propuneri si observatii (vad 
> ca doar zikyx a venit cu un mesaj "protestatar" de-a dreptul) am
> DECIS! ;)
> (si ne mai plangem ca in RO decid altii in locul nostru :p)
> 
> Va astept incepand de la ora 19,00, la Red Lion (ultimele 2 mese de 
> la "terasa" sunt rezervate "pt. D-na - hihihi! - Codruta")
> Il astept inclusiv pe zikyx ;)
> 
> Codruta





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[protest-ro] Re: vanat romanesc

2004-10-31 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


poate vreun PSD-el 
cu gandul la viitorul ciolanel
- 
> > cat despre sanctiuni - eu pariez ca vor fi zero.
> 
> Pai, pana acum suntem 2 - eu eram curioasa daca se baga cineva si
"contra"
> ;)
> 
> > in rest suazimdebine
> 
> ehhh.
> 
> Codruta :)
> 
> _
> www.nuclearinfo.ro
> 
> ARIN
> Al. Cinematografului 2, bl. H3, sc. 2, ap. 27
> 810271 Braila, tel. 0740.026091





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[protest-ro] Re: vanat romanesc

2004-10-31 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


astia nu au dat spaga de au fost prinsi? sau nu au dat destul, probabil.
cat despre sanctiuni - eu pariez ca vor fi zero.

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--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Codruta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tot la stirile ProTV de la ora 19,00:  
> La granita au fost descoperiti niste vanatori italieni cu o gramada
de fazani, potarnichi, o pisica salbatica samd.
> 
> Interesant, totusi, ca ei au fost prinsi DOAR LA VAMA!!! 
> N-as crede ca au impuscat armele alea "camuflati" prin padurile
noastre, si cu arme cu amortizor de sunet!!!
> Sunt curioasa daca vor fi anchetati si administratorii fondurilor de
vanatoare respective - si, in caz ca da, CARE vor fi sanctiunile???
> ??
> pariem pe "sanctiuni"? ;)))
> 
> Codruta
> 
> --  
> "Let me, at least, to know that she'll try
> Then she'll be a true love of mine"
> 
> www.nuclearinfo.ro
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]





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[protest-ro] Re: SUA LEGALIZEAZA IMPLANTELE RFID PE OAMENI

2004-10-26 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


Interesant, foarte interesant articol. Cumva Peter Ghita este una si
aceeasi persoana cu BARNABY J. FEDER and TOM ZELLER Jr. Nu de alta,
dar nu stiu cui sa atribui paternitatea articolului.

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http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brasovenii/message/529

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brasovenii/message/531




--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "AlterMedia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> 
> ==
> Peter Ghita, Stockholm /AlterMedia
> 
> Surse din cadrul Applied Digital Solutions [ 
> http://www.adsx.com/content/index.htm ] (ADS) si Digital Angel 
> Corporation relateaza ca Food and Drug Administration [ 
> http://www.fda.gov/ ] (FDA, organismul guvernamental american de 
> control in domeniul alimentelor si medicamentelor) a aprobat 
> folosirea pe oameni, in scop medical, a implantului cu microcipuri 
> realizate de aceste firme.
> 
> Scott Silverman, director al Applied Digital Solutions, declara ca 
> hotarirea oficialilor FDA va contribui la atenuarea nelinistii pe 
> care o provoaca acesta tehnologie ? intimpinata pina acum cu "o 
> suspiciune nejustificata". Implantul, spune Silverman, poate salva 
> vieti si diminua riscul in cazul tratamentelor gresite, ajutand la 
> stabilirea unor diagnostice rapide in cazul in care pacientul este 
> inconstient.
> 
> Microcipul este un dispozitiv cu identificare prin radio-frecventa 
> (RFID). Implantul, numit Verichip [ 
> http://www.adsx.com/prodservpart/verichip.html ] si realizat de ADS, 
> mare cit un bob de orez, contine un microcip si o antena minuscula. 
> Cipul poarta un numar unic de identificare, compus din 16 cifre, ce 
> corespunde intr-o baza de date cu informatii despre pacient.
> 
> Pentru a fi citit numarul, un scaner portabil este baleiat deasupra 
> cipului. Semnalul este detectat de antena, care emite un microcurent 
> electric in cip, iar acesta transmite inapoi un semnal radio 
> continand numarul de identificare.
> 
> Pacientii cu implant pot fi, afirma producatorii dispozitivului, 
> supravegheati medical mai bine, deoarece personalul de la sectiile 
> de urgenta, precum si cel de pe ambulante - dotati cu scanere 
> portabile ? pot citi usor datele de pe cip si avea astfel acces la 
> informatiile existente despre pacient ? spre exemplu, istoricul sau 
> medical.
> 
> Organizatiile civice americane protesteaza insa vehement si 
> argumenteaza ca bratarile sau cardurile sunt la fel de eficiente in 
> scopuri medicale ca si implantul, deci n-ar fi nevoie de acasta. 
> 
> Ei avertizeaza ca chipul ar putea fi utilizat ca un instrument de 
> control. "Au trecut o granita, plasandu-l (dispozitivul) sub pielea 
> umana," spune Marc Rotenberg de la Electronic Privacy Information 
> Center, o organizatie pentru apararea libertatilor civile din 
> Washington DC.
> 
> Informatia a fost confirmata de mai multe surse online precum 
> Nature.com [ http://www.nature.com/news/2004/041011/pf/041011-
> 16_pf.html ] in 15 octombrie si IDG Sweden  [ 
> http://www.idg.se/ArticlePages/200410/14/20041014101345_NOK/200410141
> 01345_NOK.dbp.asp ] in 14 octombrie.
> 
> Nota 1:
> 
> Un vizitator al paginii International Data Groups, Daniel W 
> Gustafsson, comenteaza in felul urmator aceasta stire: 
> 
> "Un mare pericol pentru integritatea personala. Asta seamana intr-
> adevar a orinduire Big Brother; uita Sovietele si comunismul, acum 
> domnesc SUA, capitalismul si falsa democratie in care marile 
> companii si banii domina in locul conceptiilor umaniste.
> 
> Numai faptul evident al riscului de abuz este suficient pentru a nu 
> permite folosirea acestei tehnici pe oameni...
> 
> Aceasta este o catastrofa, de acum tu ? ca om ? nu vei mai fi 
> niciodata liber, ci doar un consumator ce poate fi controlat de 
> fortele pietii si ale societatii pina in cele mai mici detalii."
>  
> Nota 2: 
> 
> "16. Si ea ii sileste pe toti, pe cei mici si pe cei mari, si pe cei 
> bogati si pe cei saraci, si pe cei slobozi si pe cei robi, ca sa-si 
> puna semn pe mâna lor cea dreapta sau pe frunte.  
> 17. Incât nimeni sa nu poata cumpara sau vinde, decât numai cel ce 
> are semnul, adica numele fiarei, sau numarul numelui fiarei.  
> 18. Aici este intelepciunea. Cine are pricepere sa socoteasca 
> numarul fiarei; caci este numar de om. Si numarul ei este sase sute 
> saizeci si sase." (Apocalipsa 13, 16-18)





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[protest-ro] Re: deshteapta care a luat premiul pentru "jurnalism de mediu"

2004-10-23 Fir de Conversatie sauzimdebine


<<< Nici Ministerul Apararii Nationale nu a scapat, benefica fiind, in
opinia semnatarilor apelului, instructia soldatilor pe biciclete. >>>

numa sa nu-i invete sa "traga din orice pozitie" . ca si cei din 89,
care tot la fel "trageau din orice pozitie", vor disparea fara urma si
se duce de rapa tot programul.
si poate, din punct de vedere al mediului vorbind, ar fi bine sa se
revina la arcul cu sageti.
mare ..., dar nu doare. ca ai auzi numai tipete.

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