Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: mobile solution?

2011-11-23 Thread Jimmy Brake
No worries, we have to start coding on this tomorrow ... if the 'default'
app does not work well in Android we will make adjustments as needed.



On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Phil Petree phil.pet...@gmail.com wrote:

 Back in the beginning (we're talking the 80's here), I wrote my first
 piece of code in 8086 assember and I've migrated to C (had one of the
 original windows SDKs), C++, ASP, .NET over to PHP, javascript and
 prototype etc. I'm not generally the swiftest coder out there but given
 enough time I can generally figure out solutions to even the most complex
 of problems and I can honestly say that SENCHA completely escapes me!  I
 couldn't get a single one of their demos to work and it was nearly
 impossible to extend it to anything remotely useful (i.e. capturing a users
 location). After emailing people who claimed to have their ap up
 and running in 1 day and learning it was marketing hype, I finally just
 walked away from it...

 Scripty looked promising but it is being developed very slowly...
 painfully so...

 I've looked at a number of other silver bullet solutions and nothing
 really exists.  I finally relented and hired a shop to write the mobile
 apps.

 It would be nice if someone would write a nice device abstraction layer
 but I dont see that happening... at least not a freebie! LOL

 On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:27 AM, cilsil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think android specified by Joe still †ђξ production options Jimmy.
 Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

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 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:44:58
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 Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: mobile solution?

 Er, Android 2.3.7 ... D'oh!

 On Nov 18, 9:43 pm, joe t. thooke...@gmail.com wrote:
  i may have the wrong impression, but my tinkering on scripty's demo
  page has been...unimpressive. i'm using Android 2.4  so far, hardly
  any of the mobile/touch demos work. In fact, from the touch-demo page:
 
  These demos are optimized for the Starlight browser, iPhone Safari
  3+, Desktop Safari 4+ and Firefox 3.5+. Support for IE is incomplete
  at this time.
 
  The scripty2 multitouch support is not final, it's a alpha-stage
  implementation. This means there's several restrictions and known bugs
  that prevents it from being used in a production environment.
 
  Honestly, i don't think Prototype has been active enough to warrant a
  mobile version. There are several recent threads that discuss
  Prototype's current status  future. To my knowledge (which comes
  mainly from observation of this group), there's not much call for a
  mobile Prototype. Scripty looks like the best bet, and its development
  cycle is pretty slow. Which isn't a knock against the people involved.
  Life is life, right?
 
  Hope that informs, as i'm sure it hardly helps. ;)
  -joe t.
 
  On Nov 18, 6:31 pm, Jimmy Brake isu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Hi,
 
   Does anyone know of a lib that can extend Prototype so it's like
 sencha
   touch, jquery.mobile or has anyone been using scripty in production?
 
   I presently only need to support ipad's. However over time I plan on
   supporting all smart phones and tablets.
 
   Thanks,
 
   Jimmy

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: mobile solution?

2011-11-19 Thread cilsilver
I think android specified by Joe still †ђξ production options Jimmy.
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

-Original Message-
From: joe t. thooke...@gmail.com
Sender: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:44:58 
To: Prototype  script.aculo.usprototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: mobile solution?

Er, Android 2.3.7 ... D'oh!

On Nov 18, 9:43 pm, joe t. thooke...@gmail.com wrote:
 i may have the wrong impression, but my tinkering on scripty's demo
 page has been...unimpressive. i'm using Android 2.4  so far, hardly
 any of the mobile/touch demos work. In fact, from the touch-demo page:

 These demos are optimized for the Starlight browser, iPhone Safari
 3+, Desktop Safari 4+ and Firefox 3.5+. Support for IE is incomplete
 at this time.

 The scripty2 multitouch support is not final, it's a alpha-stage
 implementation. This means there's several restrictions and known bugs
 that prevents it from being used in a production environment.

 Honestly, i don't think Prototype has been active enough to warrant a
 mobile version. There are several recent threads that discuss
 Prototype's current status  future. To my knowledge (which comes
 mainly from observation of this group), there's not much call for a
 mobile Prototype. Scripty looks like the best bet, and its development
 cycle is pretty slow. Which isn't a knock against the people involved.
 Life is life, right?

 Hope that informs, as i'm sure it hardly helps. ;)
 -joe t.

 On Nov 18, 6:31 pm, Jimmy Brake isu...@gmail.com wrote:







  Hi,

  Does anyone know of a lib that can extend Prototype so it's like sencha
  touch, jquery.mobile or has anyone been using scripty in production?

  I presently only need to support ipad's. However over time I plan on
  supporting all smart phones and tablets.

  Thanks,

  Jimmy

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: mobile solution?

2011-11-19 Thread Phil Petree
Back in the beginning (we're talking the 80's here), I wrote my first piece
of code in 8086 assember and I've migrated to C (had one of the original
windows SDKs), C++, ASP, .NET over to PHP, javascript and prototype etc.
I'm not generally the swiftest coder out there but given enough time I can
generally figure out solutions to even the most complex of problems and I
can honestly say that SENCHA completely escapes me!  I couldn't get a
single one of their demos to work and it was nearly impossible to extend it
to anything remotely useful (i.e. capturing a users location). After
emailing people who claimed to have their ap up and running in 1 day and
learning it was marketing hype, I finally just walked away from it...

Scripty looked promising but it is being developed very slowly... painfully
so...

I've looked at a number of other silver bullet solutions and nothing
really exists.  I finally relented and hired a shop to write the mobile
apps.

It would be nice if someone would write a nice device abstraction layer
but I dont see that happening... at least not a freebie! LOL

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 1:27 AM, cilsil...@gmail.com wrote:

 I think android specified by Joe still †ђξ production options Jimmy.
 Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN

 -Original Message-
 From: joe t. thooke...@gmail.com
 Sender: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:44:58
 To: Prototype  script.aculo.usprototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
 Reply-To: prototype-scriptaculous@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [Proto-Scripty] Re: mobile solution?

 Er, Android 2.3.7 ... D'oh!

 On Nov 18, 9:43 pm, joe t. thooke...@gmail.com wrote:
  i may have the wrong impression, but my tinkering on scripty's demo
  page has been...unimpressive. i'm using Android 2.4  so far, hardly
  any of the mobile/touch demos work. In fact, from the touch-demo page:
 
  These demos are optimized for the Starlight browser, iPhone Safari
  3+, Desktop Safari 4+ and Firefox 3.5+. Support for IE is incomplete
  at this time.
 
  The scripty2 multitouch support is not final, it's a alpha-stage
  implementation. This means there's several restrictions and known bugs
  that prevents it from being used in a production environment.
 
  Honestly, i don't think Prototype has been active enough to warrant a
  mobile version. There are several recent threads that discuss
  Prototype's current status  future. To my knowledge (which comes
  mainly from observation of this group), there's not much call for a
  mobile Prototype. Scripty looks like the best bet, and its development
  cycle is pretty slow. Which isn't a knock against the people involved.
  Life is life, right?
 
  Hope that informs, as i'm sure it hardly helps. ;)
  -joe t.
 
  On Nov 18, 6:31 pm, Jimmy Brake isu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Hi,
 
   Does anyone know of a lib that can extend Prototype so it's like sencha
   touch, jquery.mobile or has anyone been using scripty in production?
 
   I presently only need to support ipad's. However over time I plan on
   supporting all smart phones and tablets.
 
   Thanks,
 
   Jimmy

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Re: [Proto-Scripty] Re: mobile solution?

2011-11-18 Thread Jimmy Brake
That's to bad .. hopefully someone will come along soon and tell us
different. ...

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 6:44 PM, joe t. thooke...@gmail.com wrote:

 Er, Android 2.3.7 ... D'oh!

 On Nov 18, 9:43 pm, joe t. thooke...@gmail.com wrote:
  i may have the wrong impression, but my tinkering on scripty's demo
  page has been...unimpressive. i'm using Android 2.4  so far, hardly
  any of the mobile/touch demos work. In fact, from the touch-demo page:
 
  These demos are optimized for the Starlight browser, iPhone Safari
  3+, Desktop Safari 4+ and Firefox 3.5+. Support for IE is incomplete
  at this time.
 
  The scripty2 multitouch support is not final, it's a alpha-stage
  implementation. This means there's several restrictions and known bugs
  that prevents it from being used in a production environment.
 
  Honestly, i don't think Prototype has been active enough to warrant a
  mobile version. There are several recent threads that discuss
  Prototype's current status  future. To my knowledge (which comes
  mainly from observation of this group), there's not much call for a
  mobile Prototype. Scripty looks like the best bet, and its development
  cycle is pretty slow. Which isn't a knock against the people involved.
  Life is life, right?
 
  Hope that informs, as i'm sure it hardly helps. ;)
  -joe t.
 
  On Nov 18, 6:31 pm, Jimmy Brake isu...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Hi,
 
   Does anyone know of a lib that can extend Prototype so it's like sencha
   touch, jquery.mobile or has anyone been using scripty in production?
 
   I presently only need to support ipad's. However over time I plan on
   supporting all smart phones and tablets.
 
   Thanks,
 
   Jimmy

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