Re: [PSAS] Post traumatic lug-breaking disorder
Now there's a CATO as I've ever seen one! Don't feel too bad... Tripoli Idaho Rocketry also had a launch last weekend over in Swan Falls, and 2 x different local college teams flew. BOTH rockets came in ballistic - it could always be worse! Cheers,WILSON Wilson Alness w...@wilsonalness.com<mailto:w...@wilsonalness.com> ǀ www.wilsonalness.com<http://www.wilsonalness.com> Main: 503-575-7622 Office: 503-639-6911 From: psas-team on behalf of Bliss Brass Sent: Monday, April 23, 2018 4:42 PM To: Josh Triplett Cc: Gabrielle Paris; Andrew Greenberg; psas-team; Susan Sullivan Subject: Re: [PSAS] Post traumatic lug-breaking disorder Coulda been worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBzigaTSPZY On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Josh Triplett mailto:j...@joshtriplett.org>> wrote: And it didn't go through a lossy compression algorithm, either. On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:45:04PM +, Gabrielle Paris wrote: > Here's a positive note... we recovered the entire rocket! > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 15:34 Susan Sullivan > mailto:susaniren...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > ALSO, to give some perspective - when we were living near Kennedy Space > > Center last year, only *ONE* of the six launches we saw launched on the > > first try. The rest were try 2 or 3. > > There was one ULA launch where we got up at 3am for *4* mornings in a > > row, just to have it scrubbed again). > > > > All this to say, even SpaceX and ULA scrub launches - *so we are totally > > on track! * > > > > Thanks for the Live Stream - we really enjoyed "being" at the launch from > > here. > > Cheers, > > > > *Susan Sullivan* > > Harmonix LLC > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanirenesullivan > > susaniren...@gmail.com<mailto:susaniren...@gmail.com> > > (928) 660-9991 > > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Andrew Greenberg > > mailto:a...@ece.pdx.edu>> wrote: > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Certain people are beating themselves up about the launch lug breaking > >> off. Stop that. Seriously. This was no ones fault. We'll root cause this > >> next Tuesday, because that's always the Right Thing To Do, but please > >> consider this: > >> > >> - We don't have a formal SOP for loading the rocket. So it's not like we > >> didn't follow an SOP and broke the launch lug. This is no one particular > >> person's fault. > >> > >> - None of us knew that loading the rocket would generate enough force to > >> break the launch lug off. This was extremely unexpected. It possibly > >> shouldn't have broken off, even with the misalignment, or we should have > >> a system that behaves better with misalignment. > >> > >> In all cases: please stop beating yourselves up about this. It happened, > >> we scrubbed, we're launching next month. This is not a big deal. And in > >> the long run this is a big win because we can now make fun of "Joe's > >> lugs coming off" for the rest of eternity. > >> > >> I, personally, have scrubbed plenty of launches with actual mistakes. It > >> happens. Rockets are complicated beasts. We wouldn't be working on them > >> if it was easy (!) > >> > >> Andrew > >> > >> PS. Also, if you're feeling this way, please talk to me before I find > >> out from someone else and come hunt you down. > >> > >> -- > >> --- > >> Andrew Greenberg > >> > >> Electrical and Computer Engineering > >> Portland State University > >> http://www.ece.pdx.edu/ > >> a...@ece.pdx.edu<mailto:a...@ece.pdx.edu> C: 503.708.7711 > >> --- > >> > >> ___ > >> psas-team mailing list > >> psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu<mailto:psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu> > >> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > >> > >> This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of > >> the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > >> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself > >> from these lists. > >> > > > > ___ > > psas-team mailing list > > psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu<mailto:psas-tea
Re: [PSAS] Post traumatic lug-breaking disorder
Coulda been worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UBzigaTSPZY On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Josh Triplett wrote: > And it didn't go through a lossy compression algorithm, either. > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:45:04PM +, Gabrielle Paris wrote: > > Here's a positive note... we recovered the entire rocket! > > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 15:34 Susan Sullivan > wrote: > > > > > ALSO, to give some perspective - when we were living near Kennedy Space > > > Center last year, only *ONE* of the six launches we saw launched on the > > > first try. The rest were try 2 or 3. > > > There was one ULA launch where we got up at 3am for *4* mornings in a > > > row, just to have it scrubbed again). > > > > > > All this to say, even SpaceX and ULA scrub launches - *so we are > totally > > > on track! * > > > > > > Thanks for the Live Stream - we really enjoyed "being" at the launch > from > > > here. > > > Cheers, > > > > > > *Susan Sullivan* > > > Harmonix LLC > > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanirenesullivan > > > susaniren...@gmail.com > > > (928) 660-9991 > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Andrew Greenberg > wrote: > > > > > >> Hi everyone, > > >> > > >> Certain people are beating themselves up about the launch lug breaking > > >> off. Stop that. Seriously. This was no ones fault. We'll root cause > this > > >> next Tuesday, because that's always the Right Thing To Do, but please > > >> consider this: > > >> > > >> - We don't have a formal SOP for loading the rocket. So it's not like > we > > >> didn't follow an SOP and broke the launch lug. This is no one > particular > > >> person's fault. > > >> > > >> - None of us knew that loading the rocket would generate enough force > to > > >> break the launch lug off. This was extremely unexpected. It possibly > > >> shouldn't have broken off, even with the misalignment, or we should > have > > >> a system that behaves better with misalignment. > > >> > > >> In all cases: please stop beating yourselves up about this. It > happened, > > >> we scrubbed, we're launching next month. This is not a big deal. And > in > > >> the long run this is a big win because we can now make fun of "Joe's > > >> lugs coming off" for the rest of eternity. > > >> > > >> I, personally, have scrubbed plenty of launches with actual mistakes. > It > > >> happens. Rockets are complicated beasts. We wouldn't be working on > them > > >> if it was easy (!) > > >> > > >> Andrew > > >> > > >> PS. Also, if you're feeling this way, please talk to me before I find > > >> out from someone else and come hunt you down. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> --- > > >> Andrew Greenberg > > >> > > >> Electrical and Computer Engineering > > >> Portland State University > > >> http://www.ece.pdx.edu/ > > >> a...@ece.pdx.edu C: 503.708.7711 > > >> --- > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> psas-team mailing list > > >> psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu > > >> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > > >> > > >> This list's membership is automatically generated from the > memberships of > > >> the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > > >> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe > yourself > > >> from these lists. > > >> > > > > > > ___ > > > psas-team mailing list > > > psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu > > > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > > > > > > This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships > of > > > the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > > > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe > yourself > > > from these lists. > > > ___ > > psas-team mailing list > > psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu > > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > > > > This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships > of the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself > from these lists. > > > ___ > psas-team mailing list > psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > > This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of > the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself > from these lists. > ___ psas-team mailing list psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subsc
Re: [PSAS] Post traumatic lug-breaking disorder
And it didn't go through a lossy compression algorithm, either. On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 10:45:04PM +, Gabrielle Paris wrote: > Here's a positive note... we recovered the entire rocket! > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 15:34 Susan Sullivan wrote: > > > ALSO, to give some perspective - when we were living near Kennedy Space > > Center last year, only *ONE* of the six launches we saw launched on the > > first try. The rest were try 2 or 3. > > There was one ULA launch where we got up at 3am for *4* mornings in a > > row, just to have it scrubbed again). > > > > All this to say, even SpaceX and ULA scrub launches - *so we are totally > > on track! * > > > > Thanks for the Live Stream - we really enjoyed "being" at the launch from > > here. > > Cheers, > > > > *Susan Sullivan* > > Harmonix LLC > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanirenesullivan > > susaniren...@gmail.com > > (928) 660-9991 > > > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Andrew Greenberg wrote: > > > >> Hi everyone, > >> > >> Certain people are beating themselves up about the launch lug breaking > >> off. Stop that. Seriously. This was no ones fault. We'll root cause this > >> next Tuesday, because that's always the Right Thing To Do, but please > >> consider this: > >> > >> - We don't have a formal SOP for loading the rocket. So it's not like we > >> didn't follow an SOP and broke the launch lug. This is no one particular > >> person's fault. > >> > >> - None of us knew that loading the rocket would generate enough force to > >> break the launch lug off. This was extremely unexpected. It possibly > >> shouldn't have broken off, even with the misalignment, or we should have > >> a system that behaves better with misalignment. > >> > >> In all cases: please stop beating yourselves up about this. It happened, > >> we scrubbed, we're launching next month. This is not a big deal. And in > >> the long run this is a big win because we can now make fun of "Joe's > >> lugs coming off" for the rest of eternity. > >> > >> I, personally, have scrubbed plenty of launches with actual mistakes. It > >> happens. Rockets are complicated beasts. We wouldn't be working on them > >> if it was easy (!) > >> > >> Andrew > >> > >> PS. Also, if you're feeling this way, please talk to me before I find > >> out from someone else and come hunt you down. > >> > >> -- > >> --- > >> Andrew Greenberg > >> > >> Electrical and Computer Engineering > >> Portland State University > >> http://www.ece.pdx.edu/ > >> a...@ece.pdx.edu C: 503.708.7711 > >> --- > >> > >> ___ > >> psas-team mailing list > >> psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu > >> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > >> > >> This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of > >> the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > >> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself > >> from these lists. > >> > > > > ___ > > psas-team mailing list > > psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu > > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > > > > This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of > > the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself > > from these lists. > ___ > psas-team mailing list > psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > > This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of the > psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself from > these lists. ___ psas-team mailing list psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself from these lists.
Re: [PSAS] Post traumatic lug-breaking disorder
Here's a positive note... we recovered the entire rocket! On Mon, Apr 23, 2018, 15:34 Susan Sullivan wrote: > ALSO, to give some perspective - when we were living near Kennedy Space > Center last year, only *ONE* of the six launches we saw launched on the > first try. The rest were try 2 or 3. > There was one ULA launch where we got up at 3am for *4* mornings in a > row, just to have it scrubbed again). > > All this to say, even SpaceX and ULA scrub launches - *so we are totally > on track! * > > Thanks for the Live Stream - we really enjoyed "being" at the launch from > here. > Cheers, > > *Susan Sullivan* > Harmonix LLC > https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanirenesullivan > susaniren...@gmail.com > (928) 660-9991 > > On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Andrew Greenberg wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> Certain people are beating themselves up about the launch lug breaking >> off. Stop that. Seriously. This was no ones fault. We'll root cause this >> next Tuesday, because that's always the Right Thing To Do, but please >> consider this: >> >> - We don't have a formal SOP for loading the rocket. So it's not like we >> didn't follow an SOP and broke the launch lug. This is no one particular >> person's fault. >> >> - None of us knew that loading the rocket would generate enough force to >> break the launch lug off. This was extremely unexpected. It possibly >> shouldn't have broken off, even with the misalignment, or we should have >> a system that behaves better with misalignment. >> >> In all cases: please stop beating yourselves up about this. It happened, >> we scrubbed, we're launching next month. This is not a big deal. And in >> the long run this is a big win because we can now make fun of "Joe's >> lugs coming off" for the rest of eternity. >> >> I, personally, have scrubbed plenty of launches with actual mistakes. It >> happens. Rockets are complicated beasts. We wouldn't be working on them >> if it was easy (!) >> >> Andrew >> >> PS. Also, if you're feeling this way, please talk to me before I find >> out from someone else and come hunt you down. >> >> -- >> --- >> Andrew Greenberg >> >> Electrical and Computer Engineering >> Portland State University >> http://www.ece.pdx.edu/ >> a...@ece.pdx.edu C: 503.708.7711 >> --- >> >> ___ >> psas-team mailing list >> psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu >> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team >> >> This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of >> the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit >> http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself >> from these lists. >> > > ___ > psas-team mailing list > psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > > This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of > the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself > from these lists. ___ psas-team mailing list psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself from these lists.
Re: [PSAS] Post traumatic lug-breaking disorder
ALSO, to give some perspective - when we were living near Kennedy Space Center last year, only *ONE* of the six launches we saw launched on the first try. The rest were try 2 or 3. There was one ULA launch where we got up at 3am for *4* mornings in a row, just to have it scrubbed again). All this to say, even SpaceX and ULA scrub launches - *so we are totally on track! * Thanks for the Live Stream - we really enjoyed "being" at the launch from here. Cheers, *Susan Sullivan* Harmonix LLC https://www.linkedin.com/in/susanirenesullivan susaniren...@gmail.com (928) 660-9991 On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 5:18 PM, Andrew Greenberg wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Certain people are beating themselves up about the launch lug breaking > off. Stop that. Seriously. This was no ones fault. We'll root cause this > next Tuesday, because that's always the Right Thing To Do, but please > consider this: > > - We don't have a formal SOP for loading the rocket. So it's not like we > didn't follow an SOP and broke the launch lug. This is no one particular > person's fault. > > - None of us knew that loading the rocket would generate enough force to > break the launch lug off. This was extremely unexpected. It possibly > shouldn't have broken off, even with the misalignment, or we should have > a system that behaves better with misalignment. > > In all cases: please stop beating yourselves up about this. It happened, > we scrubbed, we're launching next month. This is not a big deal. And in > the long run this is a big win because we can now make fun of "Joe's > lugs coming off" for the rest of eternity. > > I, personally, have scrubbed plenty of launches with actual mistakes. It > happens. Rockets are complicated beasts. We wouldn't be working on them > if it was easy (!) > > Andrew > > PS. Also, if you're feeling this way, please talk to me before I find > out from someone else and come hunt you down. > > -- > --- > Andrew Greenberg > > Electrical and Computer Engineering > Portland State University > http://www.ece.pdx.edu/ > a...@ece.pdx.edu C: 503.708.7711 > --- > > ___ > psas-team mailing list > psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team > > This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of > the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit > http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself > from these lists. > ___ psas-team mailing list psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself from these lists.
[PSAS] Post traumatic lug-breaking disorder
Hi everyone, Certain people are beating themselves up about the launch lug breaking off. Stop that. Seriously. This was no ones fault. We'll root cause this next Tuesday, because that's always the Right Thing To Do, but please consider this: - We don't have a formal SOP for loading the rocket. So it's not like we didn't follow an SOP and broke the launch lug. This is no one particular person's fault. - None of us knew that loading the rocket would generate enough force to break the launch lug off. This was extremely unexpected. It possibly shouldn't have broken off, even with the misalignment, or we should have a system that behaves better with misalignment. In all cases: please stop beating yourselves up about this. It happened, we scrubbed, we're launching next month. This is not a big deal. And in the long run this is a big win because we can now make fun of "Joe's lugs coming off" for the rest of eternity. I, personally, have scrubbed plenty of launches with actual mistakes. It happens. Rockets are complicated beasts. We wouldn't be working on them if it was easy (!) Andrew PS. Also, if you're feeling this way, please talk to me before I find out from someone else and come hunt you down. -- --- Andrew Greenberg Electrical and Computer Engineering Portland State University http://www.ece.pdx.edu/ a...@ece.pdx.edu C: 503.708.7711 --- ___ psas-team mailing list psas-team@lists.psas.pdx.edu http://lists.psas.pdx.edu/mailman/listinfo/psas-team This list's membership is automatically generated from the memberships of the psas-airframe, psas-avionics, and psas-general mail lists. Visit http://lists.psas.pdx.edu to individually subscribe/unsubscribe yourself from these lists.
