Re: took the plunge to pt10

2011-11-02 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Guys,
Have you guys let Avid know about the stuff that is not working yet?
especially The channel
strip?
The Squeaky wheel gets the voiceOver working! :)

YMMV

Chuck


On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Monkey Pusher wrote:

 Bummer, i recently purchased an upgrade as  well mainly since lion is
 on all my macs and i was  hoping it would bring an end to the
 ocasional crash or other issue i have  with 9.05 on lion. The channel
 strip is one one feature i was looking forward to using , but i guess
 i'll have to stick to the plugs that has worked for me  thus far on
 that one. I think the new plug in format is supposed to bring 64 bit
 support to PT plug ins.
 
 On 11/1/11, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote:
 Well, I got pt 10, why, because it was there.  That being said, I really
 wanted to use the channel strip.  It is not accessible with VO.  The one good
 thing so far is that it does let you record to interleave files, so that
 they are true stereo wav files. They are going to start using a new plug-in
 format for some reason.  I think that it may be doing a bit better at
 assigning the busses to the outputs and labeling them properly.  Also, if
 you have some new proprietary controller it is supposed to give you support
 to a whole host of functions.  I haven't really explored it fully.  One
 thing though is that if you change any routing you need to save in the newer
 format which I guess will not be backward compatible.  I thought we would be
 getting some new instrument content but I really didn't see anything
 different after installing it.  I just wish the strip was accessible;le.
 Gord
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:53 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Authorising ProTools
 
 David,
 
 Some installers are quirky in the way VoiceOver interacts with them. Try
 routing the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and performing a mouse click
 either with a physical mouse or with the VO-Shift-Space Bar.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
 On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:48 PM, David Eagle wrote:
 
 Hi, I've finally got round to trying to get ProTools installed on the Mac
 after having it since July, but I can't authorise it because I have no way
 
 of unchecking the use Licence card option. I press VO space on it and it
 
 says unchecked but when I shift tab the tab to it again it tells me that
 it's still checked. There seems no way to uncheck the box using VO. Also
 weirdly, none of the buttons like authorise, back, next, quit etc work
 with VO space; you have to press enter on them in spite of VO telling you
 to press VO space.
 
 Any ideas; or do I need to get someone sighted to do this for me?
 
 
 



Re: took the plunge to pt10

2011-11-02 Thread Stephen Martin
Well I haven't even received my authorization card for 10 in the mail yet, so i 
haven't even downloaded and installed it yet. Cuirous to know if clip based 
gain is accessible though.
On Nov 2, 2011, at 3:53 PM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 Have you guys let Avid know about the stuff that is not working yet?
 especially The channel
 strip?
 The Squeaky wheel gets the voiceOver working! :)
 
 YMMV
 
 Chuck
 
 
 On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Monkey Pusher wrote:
 
 Bummer, i recently purchased an upgrade as  well mainly since lion is
 on all my macs and i was  hoping it would bring an end to the
 ocasional crash or other issue i have  with 9.05 on lion. The channel
 strip is one one feature i was looking forward to using , but i guess
 i'll have to stick to the plugs that has worked for me  thus far on
 that one. I think the new plug in format is supposed to bring 64 bit
 support to PT plug ins.
 
 On 11/1/11, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote:
 Well, I got pt 10, why, because it was there.  That being said, I really
 wanted to use the channel strip.  It is not accessible with VO.  The one 
 good
 thing so far is that it does let you record to interleave files, so that
 they are true stereo wav files. They are going to start using a new plug-in
 format for some reason.  I think that it may be doing a bit better at
 assigning the busses to the outputs and labeling them properly.  Also, if
 you have some new proprietary controller it is supposed to give you support
 to a whole host of functions.  I haven't really explored it fully.  One
 thing though is that if you change any routing you need to save in the newer
 format which I guess will not be backward compatible.  I thought we would be
 getting some new instrument content but I really didn't see anything
 different after installing it.  I just wish the strip was accessible;le.
 Gord
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:53 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Authorising ProTools
 
 David,
 
 Some installers are quirky in the way VoiceOver interacts with them. Try
 routing the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and performing a mouse click
 either with a physical mouse or with the VO-Shift-Space Bar.
 
 HTH,
 
 Slau
 
 On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:48 PM, David Eagle wrote:
 
 Hi, I've finally got round to trying to get ProTools installed on the Mac
 after having it since July, but I can't authorise it because I have no way
 
 of unchecking the use Licence card option. I press VO space on it and it
 
 says unchecked but when I shift tab the tab to it again it tells me that
 it's still checked. There seems no way to uncheck the box using VO. Also
 weirdly, none of the buttons like authorise, back, next, quit etc work
 with VO space; you have to press enter on them in spite of VO telling you
 to press VO space.
 
 Any ideas; or do I need to get someone sighted to do this for me?
 
 
 
 



Re: took the plunge to pt10

2011-11-02 Thread Gordon Kent

Hi:
I couldn't agree more.  THis was very similar to the situation I had with 
cakewalk.  And, yes, it is more important to get access to things like the 
midi event view.  I think that if we can get a handle on the controller 
implementation for a lot of these plugs we'll be able to get them working 
for us.  I for one would never want to do anything that could jeopardize our 
relationship with avid.  I was just surprised more than anything since I had 
assumed that more aspects of the program were written in coco rather than 
carbon and they were going over to 64 bit anyway which means that stuff has 
to be recompiled, the level of access wasn't better than it is.  Frankly, 
you probably can do just as well chaining effects together anyway.

Gord

-Original Message- 
From: Slau Halatyn

Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 7:05 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: took the plunge to pt10

Chuck,

This may come as a surprise to you but, especially at a time when Avid is 
introducing a new version of Pro Tools along with a new plug-in 
architecture, VoiceOver compatibility is perhaps not topmost on their 
priority list. Speaking of which, you may recall that we all came up with a 
priority list which I personally delivered to them. Channel Strip is a nice 
thing to which I'm sure many of us would like to have access but there are 
more important things on that priority list. Further, when you use the 
cliche that the squeaky wheel gets the grease, this implies that we should 
all be calling Avid and complaining. I assure you that this is absolutely 
not the way to handle the issue of Pro Tools compatibility with VoiceOver. 
Instead of having an organized front with which there is precedent and 
actual success, this community of blind Pro Tools users will appear 
disjointed and uninformed. Further, the last thing in the world that should 
happen is for multiple people at Avid to have to hear someone on the phone 
bring up things that may or may not be issues. If this happens, I assure 
you, we'll eventually be ignored. As a person who's invested several 
thousand dollars solely for the purpose of establishing some sort of 
relationship with the folks at Avid in order to help make Pro Tools 
accessible, I surely want to see more progress just as much, if not more, 
than the next person but I'm sure that having people calling Avid in a 
haphazard manner is not the answer.


Slau

On Nov 2, 2011, at 3:53 PM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote:


Hi Guys,
Have you guys let Avid know about the stuff that is not working yet?
especially The channel
strip?
The Squeaky wheel gets the voiceOver working! :)

YMMV

Chuck


On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Monkey Pusher wrote:


Bummer, i recently purchased an upgrade as  well mainly since lion is
on all my macs and i was  hoping it would bring an end to the
ocasional crash or other issue i have  with 9.05 on lion. The channel
strip is one one feature i was looking forward to using , but i guess
i'll have to stick to the plugs that has worked for me  thus far on
that one. I think the new plug in format is supposed to bring 64 bit
support to PT plug ins.

On 11/1/11, Gordon Kent dbmu...@cybernex.net wrote:

Well, I got pt 10, why, because it was there.  That being said, I really
wanted to use the channel strip.  It is not accessible with VO.  The one 
good

thing so far is that it does let you record to interleave files, so that
they are true stereo wav files. They are going to start using a new 
plug-in

format for some reason.  I think that it may be doing a bit better at
assigning the busses to the outputs and labeling them properly.  Also, 
if
you have some new proprietary controller it is supposed to give you 
support

to a whole host of functions.  I haven't really explored it fully.  One
thing though is that if you change any routing you need to save in the 
newer
format which I guess will not be backward compatible.  I thought we 
would be

getting some new instrument content but I really didn't see anything
different after installing it.  I just wish the strip was accessible;le.
Gord

-Original Message-
From: Slau Halatyn
Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2011 5:53 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Authorising ProTools

David,

Some installers are quirky in the way VoiceOver interacts with them. Try
routing the mouse pointer to the VO cursor and performing a mouse click
either with a physical mouse or with the VO-Shift-Space Bar.

HTH,

Slau

On Nov 1, 2011, at 5:48 PM, David Eagle wrote:

Hi, I've finally got round to trying to get ProTools installed on the 
Mac
after having it since July, but I can't authorise it because I have no 
way


of unchecking the use Licence card option. I press VO space on it and 
it


says unchecked but when I shift tab the tab to it again it tells me 
that
it's still checked. There seems no way to uncheck the box using VO. 
Also
weirdly, none of the buttons like authorise, back, next, quit etc 
work
with VO space; you