Re: Automation snap shots
Steve, I thought there was a dedicated menu item for writing to the end of the session. There's certainly a button in the Automation window for it but, as I said, I'm so used to pressing a button for it. HTH, Slau On Mar 18, 2012, at 6:47 PM, Stephen Martin wrote: > Hello, > > I am having a hard time finding the write automation to entire selection, any > idea where it may be or a shortcut key for it. > On Mar 18, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: > >> Steve, >> >> The problem with trying to do automation without a control surface is that >> the automation process will change the parameters to the automated values >> unless you either drag a fader or draw in the values by eye. If you did >> know, for example, that you wanted to drop the level of a track by, say, 6 >> dB, you can do something as specific as that fairly easily. Let's say your >> track is starting out at 0 dB and you've already begun the automation >> process by putting all tracks into Automation write mode at the beginning of >> the session, enabled volume automation within the Automation window and >> engaged the transport. >> >> After stopping the transport, move the transport to the playback position >> where you wish to make the drop in volume. >> 1. Put the track into Auto Write mode again. >> 2. Change the volume level of the track to minus 6 dB. >> 3. Engage playback but don't stop the transport right away. >> >> The last thing you need to do is write automation to the end of the session. >> There's a keyboard shortcut for it that I don't remember because I use a >> dedicated button for it on my control surface but you can find it in the >> Edit menu. Once you press that command, Pro Tools will prompt you asking >> whether you want to write the automation to the end of the session. Press OK >> and you're set. >> >> If you don't press the command to write to the end of the session, the >> automation will only write the minus 6 dB level to the track for as long as >> the transport is engaged. This would be handy, of course, if you only needed >> the track to be lower for a few bars or so. >> >> >> As with many things in Pro Tools, there's another way to do this. You can >> instead use Latch mode so that when you enter automation record mode, >> whatever your current value is, it'll write it to the end of the session >> automatically. This, of course, is great if you want that effect but not at >> all helpful if you just want to overwrite some automation in the middle and >> keep the rest of the automation moves. >> >> Further still, you can make a selection range and experiment with levels >> during playback and, once you've achieved the right level, choose "Write to >> Entire Selection" which will write the last level set to the entire >> selection range. >> >> Automation is extremely powerful and at the same time very dangerous. It's >> easy to have things go awry. For that reason, a control surface is really a >> super handy accessory. I don't think I'd try much automation without a >> surface myself. Hopefully that helps a bit. >> >> slau >> >> On Mar 18, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Steve Martin wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> Been reading the manual trying to figure out how to do automation >>> snapshots. Basically i have a project i am working on that starts out with >>> 2 instruments and i want to drop the volume of one when the third >>> instrument kick in. I cand so far see how to do fade in/out and volume >>> automation using the fader and moving it during playback. But is there a >>> way to set the volume at specific levels and have it automatically snap to >>> those different levels during playback withough using the fader approach? >> >
Re: Automation snap shots
Hello, I am having a hard time finding the write automation to entire selection, any idea where it may be or a shortcut key for it. On Mar 18, 2012, at 4:21 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: > Steve, > > The problem with trying to do automation without a control surface is that > the automation process will change the parameters to the automated values > unless you either drag a fader or draw in the values by eye. If you did know, > for example, that you wanted to drop the level of a track by, say, 6 dB, you > can do something as specific as that fairly easily. Let's say your track is > starting out at 0 dB and you've already begun the automation process by > putting all tracks into Automation write mode at the beginning of the > session, enabled volume automation within the Automation window and engaged > the transport. > > After stopping the transport, move the transport to the playback position > where you wish to make the drop in volume. > 1. Put the track into Auto Write mode again. > 2. Change the volume level of the track to minus 6 dB. > 3. Engage playback but don't stop the transport right away. > > The last thing you need to do is write automation to the end of the session. > There's a keyboard shortcut for it that I don't remember because I use a > dedicated button for it on my control surface but you can find it in the Edit > menu. Once you press that command, Pro Tools will prompt you asking whether > you want to write the automation to the end of the session. Press OK and > you're set. > > If you don't press the command to write to the end of the session, the > automation will only write the minus 6 dB level to the track for as long as > the transport is engaged. This would be handy, of course, if you only needed > the track to be lower for a few bars or so. > > > As with many things in Pro Tools, there's another way to do this. You can > instead use Latch mode so that when you enter automation record mode, > whatever your current value is, it'll write it to the end of the session > automatically. This, of course, is great if you want that effect but not at > all helpful if you just want to overwrite some automation in the middle and > keep the rest of the automation moves. > > Further still, you can make a selection range and experiment with levels > during playback and, once you've achieved the right level, choose "Write to > Entire Selection" which will write the last level set to the entire selection > range. > > Automation is extremely powerful and at the same time very dangerous. It's > easy to have things go awry. For that reason, a control surface is really a > super handy accessory. I don't think I'd try much automation without a > surface myself. Hopefully that helps a bit. > > slau > > On Mar 18, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Steve Martin wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Been reading the manual trying to figure out how to do automation >> snapshots. Basically i have a project i am working on that starts out with >> 2 instruments and i want to drop the volume of one when the third instrument >> kick in. I cand so far see how to do fade in/out and volume automation using >> the fader and moving it during playback. But is there a way to set the >> volume at specific levels and have it automatically snap to those different >> levels during playback withough using the fader approach? >
Re: Automation snap shots
Hey chuc, Send me your number again incase i hit any snags. About to try your and slou's suggestions. Thanks guys. On Mar 18, 2012, at 4:22 PM, CHUCK REICHEL wrote: > Hi Steve, > > First thing to do is to only show that track you want to work on to avoid > confusion. > > Next find the Track View selector button in the edit window for that track. > VO space bar on the "Track View selector button" "and choose Volume" > Next Hit command 4 on the num pad to get in to the automation window and make > sure that Volume automation is checked. > > Next scrub in the track and then hit "command A" to select the Volume for the > entire track. > Now hit "Write to Current" the key command is "command slash" > This will write the currently displayed volume setting across the whole > track so when you write automation to that track it will return to the > original volume you set. > Now find the section of your track you want to change the volume and set edit > in and edit out points or in other words make a selection! > Change the volume fader for that track but do not hit play Un till you do > this next step. > > Hit the key command "Trim to Current" by hitting "command shift slash" this > will set the track to that new volume change you chose only for the selected > section of your track. > > Bang your done hit play! :) > If you don't like hit command z! ;) > and try it again until you reach the desired level! LOL > YMMV > Call me for fine details if you want. > I'm sure others have varying methods but this has been working for the past > 11 years for me?! > GUFFAWING :) > YMMv > > > > On Mar 18, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Steve Martin wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> Been reading the manual trying to figure out how to do automation >> snapshots. Basically i have a project i am working on that starts out with >> 2 instruments and i want to drop the volume of one when the third instrument >> kick in. I cand so far see how to do fade in/out and volume automation using >> the fader and moving it during playback. But is there a way to set the >> volume at specific levels and have it automatically snap to those different >> levels during playback withough using the fader approach? > > > >
Re: Automation snap shots
Hi Steve, First thing to do is to only show that track you want to work on to avoid confusion. Next find the Track View selector button in the edit window for that track. VO space bar on the "Track View selector button" "and choose Volume" Next Hit command 4 on the num pad to get in to the automation window and make sure that Volume automation is checked. Next scrub in the track and then hit "command A" to select the Volume for the entire track. Now hit "Write to Current" the key command is "command slash" This will write the currently displayed volume setting across the whole track so when you write automation to that track it will return to the original volume you set. Now find the section of your track you want to change the volume and set edit in and edit out points or in other words make a selection! Change the volume fader for that track but do not hit play Un till you do this next step. Hit the key command "Trim to Current" by hitting "command shift slash" this will set the track to that new volume change you chose only for the selected section of your track. Bang your done hit play! :) If you don't like hit command z! ;) and try it again until you reach the desired level! LOL YMMV Call me for fine details if you want. I'm sure others have varying methods but this has been working for the past 11 years for me?! GUFFAWING :) YMMv On Mar 18, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Steve Martin wrote: > Hello, > > Been reading the manual trying to figure out how to do automation snapshots. > Basically i have a project i am working on that starts out with 2 > instruments and i want to drop the volume of one when the third instrument > kick in. I cand so far see how to do fade in/out and volume automation using > the fader and moving it during playback. But is there a way to set the > volume at specific levels and have it automatically snap to those different > levels during playback withough using the fader approach?
Re: Automation snap shots
Steve, The problem with trying to do automation without a control surface is that the automation process will change the parameters to the automated values unless you either drag a fader or draw in the values by eye. If you did know, for example, that you wanted to drop the level of a track by, say, 6 dB, you can do something as specific as that fairly easily. Let's say your track is starting out at 0 dB and you've already begun the automation process by putting all tracks into Automation write mode at the beginning of the session, enabled volume automation within the Automation window and engaged the transport. After stopping the transport, move the transport to the playback position where you wish to make the drop in volume. 1. Put the track into Auto Write mode again. 2. Change the volume level of the track to minus 6 dB. 3. Engage playback but don't stop the transport right away. The last thing you need to do is write automation to the end of the session. There's a keyboard shortcut for it that I don't remember because I use a dedicated button for it on my control surface but you can find it in the Edit menu. Once you press that command, Pro Tools will prompt you asking whether you want to write the automation to the end of the session. Press OK and you're set. If you don't press the command to write to the end of the session, the automation will only write the minus 6 dB level to the track for as long as the transport is engaged. This would be handy, of course, if you only needed the track to be lower for a few bars or so. As with many things in Pro Tools, there's another way to do this. You can instead use Latch mode so that when you enter automation record mode, whatever your current value is, it'll write it to the end of the session automatically. This, of course, is great if you want that effect but not at all helpful if you just want to overwrite some automation in the middle and keep the rest of the automation moves. Further still, you can make a selection range and experiment with levels during playback and, once you've achieved the right level, choose "Write to Entire Selection" which will write the last level set to the entire selection range. Automation is extremely powerful and at the same time very dangerous. It's easy to have things go awry. For that reason, a control surface is really a super handy accessory. I don't think I'd try much automation without a surface myself. Hopefully that helps a bit. slau On Mar 18, 2012, at 2:55 PM, Steve Martin wrote: > Hello, > > Been reading the manual trying to figure out how to do automation snapshots. > Basically i have a project i am working on that starts out with 2 > instruments and i want to drop the volume of one when the third instrument > kick in. I cand so far see how to do fade in/out and volume automation using > the fader and moving it during playback. But is there a way to set the > volume at specific levels and have it automatically snap to those different > levels during playback withough using the fader approach?
Automation snap shots
Hello, Been reading the manual trying to figure out how to do automation snapshots. Basically i have a project i am working on that starts out with 2 instruments and i want to drop the volume of one when the third instrument kick in. I cand so far see how to do fade in/out and volume automation using the fader and moving it during playback. But is there a way to set the volume at specific levels and have it automatically snap to those different levels during playback withough using the fader approach?
Re: Selecting more than one track
Excellent, thank you Chris, I'll give this a go when I get back home tomorrow. I'm sure once I get used to the hiding tracks thing it won't be too much of an arduous task, plus at least it's possible to do. I have a BCF control surface and my midid keyboard can be a control surface too, but I quite like the idea of being able to bring the Mac away with me and do work on the move. Thank you my friend. Sent from my iPhone On 17 Mar 2012, at 14:08, Slau Halatyn wrote: > Hi Chris, > > No, it's just that deleting a group is undoable. It doesn't delete the actual > tracks. > > HTH, > > Slau > > On Mar 17, 2012, at 5:19 AM, Chris Norman wrote: > >> Hiya Slau, >> When you delete a group, doesn't it delete the tracks in that group to? >> >> I seem to remember that Pro Tools gave me that impression when I went to >> delete one. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Take care, >> Chris Norman >> Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com >> Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter >> (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at >> www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. >> >> On 16 Mar 2012, at 20:55, Slau Halatyn wrote: >> >>> Actually, it is quite practical. Any tracks that need to be selected for >>> editing are worth grouping, after which, one doesn't have to go through the >>> process of reselecting tracks and can enable or disable with keystrokes >>> alone. Further, it's possible to additionally hide or show the tracks with >>> the same keystrokes—yet another way of working in Pro Tools. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> On Mar 16, 2012, at 4:39 PM, Sonar Switcher wrote: >>> david, I had the same problem and Chuck was the one to get it to work. I understand Slau's idea but it's not very practical if you have to move fast. I can have 40 tracks loaded and thanks to Chuck select any of them in seconds for example track 1-6-10-20-36 can be selected while leaving the others untouched without hiding, grouping etc. Use an actual mouse, go to the track table, interact with it, click the mouse or VO spacebar on the first track then just move through the table and command click the actual mouse on each track you want to select. The biggest prob I had at the beginning was not understanding you need a mouse and not VO spacebar for this. Chuck, the answer to not needing sighted help for the gray bar is to use the VO resize window command until you are sure the mouse is always where you need it to be. In my case I've had to resize different ways for different sessions because of too many tracks. Usually I get it in 2 or three tries of resizing. You also need the true mouse to do other things like solo safe and general commands that won't work with VO and mouse modifier keys. David Eagle wrote: > Hi, I have just listened to Kevin's tutorial on ProTools. He talks > about selecting tracks. I am finding it a bit of a challenge. I am in > the tracks table. I can select one track with VO space, but pressing > Shift and semi-colon or Shift and P does not select the next track. > Also, Kevin mentions not being able to select consecutive tracks. He > mentions being able to do this using a control surface but not with > the keyboard. Is there anyway to select - say - track 3, 5 and 7 with > the keyboard. It's a shame that PT haven't built it into the control > click menu for the track. It would be so easy to do. > > Any thoughts would be much appreciated. > > > -- > http://www.davideagle.co.uk >>> >> >
Re: MBox Pro Blues
Brilliant. A lovely bloke from tech support gave me a new code, which he shouldn't really have done as this box is ex-demo LOL, but yes, I'll do that, once I can find the damned email, which Google seem to have seen fit to add to my spam folder LOL. Cheers for your help. On 17/03/2012, Steve Martin wrote: > First i'd check avid's site for the latest version of the drivers for it as > i have no issues with my mBox Pro. Secondly If you are still with in your > 60days or have an avid support license, contact tech support. They can > remote into your system and set it up for you. then just save the settings. > I need to do this again myself. > On Mar 16, 2012, at 7:28 AM, Chris Norman > wrote: > >> Hiya all, >> Just wondering if anyone has a saved layout for the MBox Pro that I could >> nick? my girlfriend tried to get the outputs and stuff working for me, and >> now all the options have vanished. Also, it still seems to be a bit flaky >> with Lion, anyone got any news on that? >> >> Cheers, and if anyone has any hints as to why all options in the control >> panel have magically been greyed out, that'd be greatly appreciated! :-) >> >> Cheers. >> >> Take care, >> Chris Norman >> Email and MSN: chris.norm...@googlemail.com >> Feel free to follow my music, either by following @cnproject on Twitter >> (www.twitter.com/cnproject), or by liking my Facebook page at >> www.facebook.com/thechrisnormanproject. >> > > -- Take care, Chris Norman.
