we need to email Apple about something

2012-11-12 Thread Slau Halatyn
Folks,

I've spoken with a few people regarding this issue and it appears that we need 
to email accessibil...@apple.com to ensure its resolution.

The issue of counters in Pro Tools 10 not reading correctly under Mountain Lion 
appears to be a VoiceOver issue rather than an issue with Pro Tools itself. Not 
only are counters not being read but edit modes and tool selections are not 
being indicated.

I encourage everybody to email accessibil...@apple.com identifying the issue, 
explaining it and urging Apple to resolve it. Just so everybody's straight with 
the details, here's the situation:

Under Snow Leopard and Leopard, Pro Tools' counter displays read fine but under 
Mountain Lion, they're simply identified by labels like, Main Counter, numeric 
text, Edit Start Time, numeric text, etc. Under Snow Leopard and Leopard, 
edit modes and tool selections are spoken properly by VoiceOver but, under 
Mountain Lion, there's no way to tell what edit mode is selected or which tool 
is selected.

We know that a programmer at Avid followed Apple's own guidelines and we know 
that the exact same version of Pro Tools behaves fine under snow Leopard and 
Leopard but not so under Mountain Lion.

Please feel free to elucidate these facts in your own words and email 
accessibil...@apple.com and urge them to look into it.

Thanks,

Slau



RE: we need to email Apple about something

2012-11-12 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
Did it work with Lion? As I recall it did. Jusat wanted to make sure of all
the facts.


-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 10:49 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: we need to email Apple about something

Folks,

I've spoken with a few people regarding this issue and it appears that we
need to email accessibil...@apple.com to ensure its resolution.

The issue of counters in Pro Tools 10 not reading correctly under Mountain
Lion appears to be a VoiceOver issue rather than an issue with Pro Tools
itself. Not only are counters not being read but edit modes and tool
selections are not being indicated.

I encourage everybody to email accessibil...@apple.com identifying the
issue, explaining it and urging Apple to resolve it. Just so everybody's
straight with the details, here's the situation:

Under Snow Leopard and Leopard, Pro Tools' counter displays read fine but
under Mountain Lion, they're simply identified by labels like, Main
Counter, numeric text, Edit Start Time, numeric text, etc. Under Snow
Leopard and Leopard, edit modes and tool selections are spoken properly by
VoiceOver but, under Mountain Lion, there's no way to tell what edit mode is
selected or which tool is selected.

We know that a programmer at Avid followed Apple's own guidelines and we
know that the exact same version of Pro Tools behaves fine under snow
Leopard and Leopard but not so under Mountain Lion.

Please feel free to elucidate these facts in your own words and email
accessibil...@apple.com and urge them to look into it.

Thanks,

Slau




Re: we need to email Apple about something

2012-11-12 Thread Gordon Kent

Hi slau:
Actually this all worked in regular lion as well.  It is only mountain lion 
that is having these issues.  There must be some other aps out there that 
are presenting the same sort of issues, maybe some spreadsheet or whatever. 
I'm not going to go and start trying a bunch of business aps to see, but it 
would be a big boost if we knew folks who were having similar issues with 
those kinds of programs since a lot more folks use them, including 
government sponsored organizations.  Apple would give this a lot more 
consideration if this were the case.

Gord

-Original Message- 
From: Slau Halatyn

Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 12:49 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: we need to email Apple about something

Folks,

I've spoken with a few people regarding this issue and it appears that we 
need to email accessibil...@apple.com to ensure its resolution.


The issue of counters in Pro Tools 10 not reading correctly under Mountain 
Lion appears to be a VoiceOver issue rather than an issue with Pro Tools 
itself. Not only are counters not being read but edit modes and tool 
selections are not being indicated.


I encourage everybody to email accessibil...@apple.com identifying the 
issue, explaining it and urging Apple to resolve it. Just so everybody's 
straight with the details, here's the situation:


Under Snow Leopard and Leopard, Pro Tools' counter displays read fine but 
under Mountain Lion, they're simply identified by labels like, Main 
Counter, numeric text, Edit Start Time, numeric text, etc. Under Snow 
Leopard and Leopard, edit modes and tool selections are spoken properly by 
VoiceOver but, under Mountain Lion, there's no way to tell what edit mode is 
selected or which tool is selected.


We know that a programmer at Avid followed Apple's own guidelines and we 
know that the exact same version of Pro Tools behaves fine under snow 
Leopard and Leopard but not so under Mountain Lion.


Please feel free to elucidate these facts in your own words and email 
accessibil...@apple.com and urge them to look into it.


Thanks,

Slau 



Re: we need to email Apple about something

2012-11-12 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Gord,

Yeah, Lion worked OK, I simply misspoke by saying Leopard. I agree, in 
principle, that it would be a more significant problem if it affected more 
people but, having spoken with someone within Apple, they seemed a bit 
surprised and, under the circumstances, suggested emailing. I will surely 
follow up with that contact but figured a number of voices on the email front 
couldn't hurt and would most likely be successful in communicating the scope.

Thanks,

Slau

On Nov 12, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Gordon Kent wrote:

 Hi slau:
 Actually this all worked in regular lion as well.  It is only mountain lion 
 that is having these issues.  There must be some other aps out there that are 
 presenting the same sort of issues, maybe some spreadsheet or whatever. I'm 
 not going to go and start trying a bunch of business aps to see, but it would 
 be a big boost if we knew folks who were having similar issues with those 
 kinds of programs since a lot more folks use them, including government 
 sponsored organizations.  Apple would give this a lot more consideration if 
 this were the case.
 Gord
 
 -Original Message- From: Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Monday, November 12, 2012 12:49 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: we need to email Apple about something
 
 Folks,
 
 I've spoken with a few people regarding this issue and it appears that we 
 need to email accessibil...@apple.com to ensure its resolution.
 
 The issue of counters in Pro Tools 10 not reading correctly under Mountain 
 Lion appears to be a VoiceOver issue rather than an issue with Pro Tools 
 itself. Not only are counters not being read but edit modes and tool 
 selections are not being indicated.
 
 I encourage everybody to email accessibil...@apple.com identifying the issue, 
 explaining it and urging Apple to resolve it. Just so everybody's straight 
 with the details, here's the situation:
 
 Under Snow Leopard and Leopard, Pro Tools' counter displays read fine but 
 under Mountain Lion, they're simply identified by labels like, Main Counter, 
 numeric text, Edit Start Time, numeric text, etc. Under Snow Leopard and 
 Leopard, edit modes and tool selections are spoken properly by VoiceOver but, 
 under Mountain Lion, there's no way to tell what edit mode is selected or 
 which tool is selected.
 
 We know that a programmer at Avid followed Apple's own guidelines and we know 
 that the exact same version of Pro Tools behaves fine under snow Leopard and 
 Leopard but not so under Mountain Lion.
 
 Please feel free to elucidate these facts in your own words and email 
 accessibil...@apple.com and urge them to look into it.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Slau 



Question about Bouncing

2012-11-12 Thread Christopher-Mark Gilland
OK, I know that most of you are really gonna probably advise against me 
doing this, but I have my reasons.  Basically I have a session which I need 
to bounce to an mp3.  The thing is, I don't have a lotta time.  I know 
beyond a doubt the session sounds exactly as I want it to in the final 
bounced mp3.  Is there not a way that I can bounce this down without it 
playing the session back while bouncing?  I mean ok, I see perfectly the 
benefits for having p t do it that way, but some times that can really 
become extra ordinarily tedious.


Thank you kindly,

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Founder of CLG Productions

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Re: Question about Bouncing

2012-11-12 Thread Chris Norman
As far as I know, there is only realtime bouncing with PT. Logic will do 
offline bouncing, but obviously you'd still have to realtime bounce your 
project.

HTH.



Take care,

Chris Norman.
chris.norm...@googlemail.com




On 12 Nov 2012, at 23:29, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 OK, I know that most of you are really gonna probably advise against me doing 
 this, but I have my reasons.  Basically I have a session which I need to 
 bounce to an mp3.  The thing is, I don't have a lotta time.  I know beyond a 
 doubt the session sounds exactly as I want it to in the final bounced mp3.  
 Is there not a way that I can bounce this down without it playing the session 
 back while bouncing?  I mean ok, I see perfectly the benefits for having p t 
 do it that way, but some times that can really become extra ordinarily 
 tedious.
 
 Thank you kindly,
 
 Christopher-Mark Gilland.
 Founder of CLG Productions
 
 Blog:
 http://www.clgproductions.org
 
 Podcast:
 http://clgproductions.podhoster.com
 
 E-mail:
 ch...@clgproductions.com
 
 IMessage/Facetime:
 theblindmusic...@att.net
 
 Windows Live Messenger:
 ch...@blindperspectives.net
 
 Twitter:
 @gilland_chris
 
 Facebook:
 http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland
 
 Skype:
 twinklesfriend2007
 
 Send me a fax from any standard fax machine:
 704-697-2069
 
 Google Voice: (Please use sparingly):
 980-272-8570