Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday
Hmmm, I dunno man, when I'm already dealing with sessions that have high enough track counts as to feel cumbersome, adding a new one for each take doesn't seem to improve the workflow all that much here, it just delays the inevitable. I'd probably end up doing even more button bashing comping the best stuff together from multiple tracks versus multiple playlists. A lot of the time I'm comping with the artist present now rather than doing it on my own time, so the button bashing is bad no matter what stage it comes at. On 10/2/13, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, you can, but i pretty much live in the track list table and use the Shift+a shortcut a lot to arm or unarm tracks. So its quick to unarm, move to the next and arm. On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: So you creat a new track for each full take? That's something, I imagine you could end up with alot of active tracks at some point, but if it works , that's the bottem line. - Original Message - From: TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday That's why i never use playlist. It would slow me down too much to have to to go cycle through them in that manner. can create 5 new tracks at once and cycle through rename as we do a take all quickly in the edit window and if they aren't adjacent or contiguous item chooser can be useful. I keep notes and comp the takes down to one track before mix time so i don't end up with too many tracks then. On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Ooh la la, I didn't know that keystroke existed to create new and duplicate playlists. Cool! Does anyone know whether there are keystrokes to cycle through playlists on the selected track? At the moment, I do this by going to the edit window, interacting with the track and popping the playlist selector menu, so a keystroke would save untold amounts of button bashing here. Cheers Scott On 10/1/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: I figur that I'm just paying my Protools dues right now. thanks again. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Oh, they're definitely useful. I tend to duplicate playlists before I do any distructive editing, and as you say, if you get a really good vocal take. Better to have more material than you can work with, than to not have enough to tie up the session with. Cheers, On 01/10/2013 18:44, Poppa Bear wrote: Thanks for that Chris, the more thoughts I get here, the better I understand how to take advantage of the play list feature. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Firstly, chances are, the audio you lost will be in the Audio Files folder. Secondly, control \ (or whatever that key is in the crook of the enter key), will make a new playlist, and control command \ (same key), makes a duplicate of the new playlist. Be mindful though, that if you make more than 5 or so playlists, the oldest ones seem to disappear, and I'm not entirely sure why. I don't usually make that many takes though, so I didn't bother looking into it. I'm not sure if there's a shortcut for moving between playlists. HTH, On 01/10/2013 18:08, Poppa Bear wrote: Hey folks, I had a pretty good 3 hour session yesterday, but at some point I went to clear a track, but accidently had two tracks selected so I lost a good vocal take and didn't notice it in time to just do a typical undo function. How would I start thinking about how to retreve tracks back in situations like this? In Sonar there is a history of changes to go into in order to undo stuff like this even if you have made other changes. I have not got into the play list stuff much, but I am wondering if it is the direction I need to start heading in. In my sessions it is normaly good take or bad take and we just keep it, or redue it, most clients I have had haven't cared about tying peaces of good takes together to get the best of all the takes, but I would still like to get a better handle on this so I can block up that chink in my armor. Thanks all over for any thoughts -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Pro Tools Accessibility group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday
Absolutely, Working with the play lists allows two things, you can keep focus on the play list in the edit window, and use the track table in the mix window to quickly select tracks. My favorite feature of PT on a mac is being able to keep focus in two different windows! It's extremely easy to quickly create a new PL between takes to give who evers singing or playing a breath, at the end I create a new blank play list, called comped, and once I've comped it, I duplicate it, and do my fades/cross fades etc, this insures if I don't like a fade, I can go back to the original comped track. On 10/2/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, I dunno man, when I'm already dealing with sessions that have high enough track counts as to feel cumbersome, adding a new one for each take doesn't seem to improve the workflow all that much here, it just delays the inevitable. I'd probably end up doing even more button bashing comping the best stuff together from multiple tracks versus multiple playlists. A lot of the time I'm comping with the artist present now rather than doing it on my own time, so the button bashing is bad no matter what stage it comes at. On 10/2/13, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, you can, but i pretty much live in the track list table and use the Shift+a shortcut a lot to arm or unarm tracks. So its quick to unarm, move to the next and arm. On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: So you creat a new track for each full take? That's something, I imagine you could end up with alot of active tracks at some point, but if it works , that's the bottem line. - Original Message - From: TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday That's why i never use playlist. It would slow me down too much to have to to go cycle through them in that manner. can create 5 new tracks at once and cycle through rename as we do a take all quickly in the edit window and if they aren't adjacent or contiguous item chooser can be useful. I keep notes and comp the takes down to one track before mix time so i don't end up with too many tracks then. On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Ooh la la, I didn't know that keystroke existed to create new and duplicate playlists. Cool! Does anyone know whether there are keystrokes to cycle through playlists on the selected track? At the moment, I do this by going to the edit window, interacting with the track and popping the playlist selector menu, so a keystroke would save untold amounts of button bashing here. Cheers Scott On 10/1/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: I figur that I'm just paying my Protools dues right now. thanks again. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Oh, they're definitely useful. I tend to duplicate playlists before I do any distructive editing, and as you say, if you get a really good vocal take. Better to have more material than you can work with, than to not have enough to tie up the session with. Cheers, On 01/10/2013 18:44, Poppa Bear wrote: Thanks for that Chris, the more thoughts I get here, the better I understand how to take advantage of the play list feature. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Firstly, chances are, the audio you lost will be in the Audio Files folder. Secondly, control \ (or whatever that key is in the crook of the enter key), will make a new playlist, and control command \ (same key), makes a duplicate of the new playlist. Be mindful though, that if you make more than 5 or so playlists, the oldest ones seem to disappear, and I'm not entirely sure why. I don't usually make that many takes though, so I didn't bother looking into it. I'm not sure if there's a shortcut for moving between playlists. HTH, On 01/10/2013 18:08, Poppa Bear wrote: Hey folks, I had a pretty good 3 hour session yesterday, but at some point I went to clear a track, but accidently had two tracks selected so I lost a good vocal take and didn't notice it in time to just do a typical undo function. How would I start thinking about how to retreve tracks back in situations like this? In Sonar there is a history of changes to go into in order to undo stuff like this even if you have made other changes. I have not got into the play list stuff much, but I am wondering if it is the direction I need to start heading in. In my sessions it is normaly good take or bad take and we just keep it, or redue it,
Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday
I take a slightly different approach. If it's a track I know I'll use playlists on, I usually leave the first playlist blank and comp onto that. Main reason being that when PT assigns numbers to playlists, then the playlist numbers PT adds on stay in sync with the number of the take. For some reason, I find that helps me to keep track of stuff a little easier. Hth Scott On 10/2/13, matt diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely, Working with the play lists allows two things, you can keep focus on the play list in the edit window, and use the track table in the mix window to quickly select tracks. My favorite feature of PT on a mac is being able to keep focus in two different windows! It's extremely easy to quickly create a new PL between takes to give who evers singing or playing a breath, at the end I create a new blank play list, called comped, and once I've comped it, I duplicate it, and do my fades/cross fades etc, this insures if I don't like a fade, I can go back to the original comped track. On 10/2/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, I dunno man, when I'm already dealing with sessions that have high enough track counts as to feel cumbersome, adding a new one for each take doesn't seem to improve the workflow all that much here, it just delays the inevitable. I'd probably end up doing even more button bashing comping the best stuff together from multiple tracks versus multiple playlists. A lot of the time I'm comping with the artist present now rather than doing it on my own time, so the button bashing is bad no matter what stage it comes at. On 10/2/13, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, you can, but i pretty much live in the track list table and use the Shift+a shortcut a lot to arm or unarm tracks. So its quick to unarm, move to the next and arm. On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: So you creat a new track for each full take? That's something, I imagine you could end up with alot of active tracks at some point, but if it works , that's the bottem line. - Original Message - From: TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday That's why i never use playlist. It would slow me down too much to have to to go cycle through them in that manner. can create 5 new tracks at once and cycle through rename as we do a take all quickly in the edit window and if they aren't adjacent or contiguous item chooser can be useful. I keep notes and comp the takes down to one track before mix time so i don't end up with too many tracks then. On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Ooh la la, I didn't know that keystroke existed to create new and duplicate playlists. Cool! Does anyone know whether there are keystrokes to cycle through playlists on the selected track? At the moment, I do this by going to the edit window, interacting with the track and popping the playlist selector menu, so a keystroke would save untold amounts of button bashing here. Cheers Scott On 10/1/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: I figur that I'm just paying my Protools dues right now. thanks again. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Oh, they're definitely useful. I tend to duplicate playlists before I do any distructive editing, and as you say, if you get a really good vocal take. Better to have more material than you can work with, than to not have enough to tie up the session with. Cheers, On 01/10/2013 18:44, Poppa Bear wrote: Thanks for that Chris, the more thoughts I get here, the better I understand how to take advantage of the play list feature. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Firstly, chances are, the audio you lost will be in the Audio Files folder. Secondly, control \ (or whatever that key is in the crook of the enter key), will make a new playlist, and control command \ (same key), makes a duplicate of the new playlist. Be mindful though, that if you make more than 5 or so playlists, the oldest ones seem to disappear, and I'm not entirely sure why. I don't usually make that many takes though, so I didn't bother looking into it. I'm not sure if there's a shortcut for moving between playlists. HTH, On 01/10/2013 18:08, Poppa Bear wrote: Hey folks, I had a pretty good 3 hour session yesterday, but at some point I went to clear a track, but accidently had two tracks selected so I lost a good vocal take and didn't notice it in time to just do
Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday
I can certainly see how that could be helpful to some, but since I'm very specific with my names I don't even pay attention to the number the voiceover reads when going through the playlist manager. I name so specifically that in my notes I can write down exactly which playlist I may have like a course OraVerse from. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: I take a slightly different approach. If it's a track I know I'll use playlists on, I usually leave the first playlist blank and comp onto that. Main reason being that when PT assigns numbers to playlists, then the playlist numbers PT adds on stay in sync with the number of the take. For some reason, I find that helps me to keep track of stuff a little easier. Hth Scott On 10/2/13, matt diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely, Working with the play lists allows two things, you can keep focus on the play list in the edit window, and use the track table in the mix window to quickly select tracks. My favorite feature of PT on a mac is being able to keep focus in two different windows! It's extremely easy to quickly create a new PL between takes to give who evers singing or playing a breath, at the end I create a new blank play list, called comped, and once I've comped it, I duplicate it, and do my fades/cross fades etc, this insures if I don't like a fade, I can go back to the original comped track. On 10/2/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, I dunno man, when I'm already dealing with sessions that have high enough track counts as to feel cumbersome, adding a new one for each take doesn't seem to improve the workflow all that much here, it just delays the inevitable. I'd probably end up doing even more button bashing comping the best stuff together from multiple tracks versus multiple playlists. A lot of the time I'm comping with the artist present now rather than doing it on my own time, so the button bashing is bad no matter what stage it comes at. On 10/2/13, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, you can, but i pretty much live in the track list table and use the Shift+a shortcut a lot to arm or unarm tracks. So its quick to unarm, move to the next and arm. On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: So you creat a new track for each full take? That's something, I imagine you could end up with alot of active tracks at some point, but if it works , that's the bottem line. - Original Message - From: TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday That's why i never use playlist. It would slow me down too much to have to to go cycle through them in that manner. can create 5 new tracks at once and cycle through rename as we do a take all quickly in the edit window and if they aren't adjacent or contiguous item chooser can be useful. I keep notes and comp the takes down to one track before mix time so i don't end up with too many tracks then. On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Ooh la la, I didn't know that keystroke existed to create new and duplicate playlists. Cool! Does anyone know whether there are keystrokes to cycle through playlists on the selected track? At the moment, I do this by going to the edit window, interacting with the track and popping the playlist selector menu, so a keystroke would save untold amounts of button bashing here. Cheers Scott On 10/1/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: I figur that I'm just paying my Protools dues right now. thanks again. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Oh, they're definitely useful. I tend to duplicate playlists before I do any distructive editing, and as you say, if you get a really good vocal take. Better to have more material than you can work with, than to not have enough to tie up the session with. Cheers, On 01/10/2013 18:44, Poppa Bear wrote: Thanks for that Chris, the more thoughts I get here, the better I understand how to take advantage of the play list feature. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Firstly, chances are, the audio you lost will be in the Audio Files folder. Secondly, control \ (or whatever that key is in the crook of the enter key), will make a new playlist, and control command \ (same key), makes a duplicate of the new playlist. Be mindful though, that if you make more than 5 or so playlists, the oldest ones seem to disappear, and I'm not
Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday
More power to you man, the more organised the better! If you ever fancy putting up a post about the naming conventions you use, I'd be interested. Scott On 10/2/13, Matt Diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote: I can certainly see how that could be helpful to some, but since I'm very specific with my names I don't even pay attention to the number the voiceover reads when going through the playlist manager. I name so specifically that in my notes I can write down exactly which playlist I may have like a course OraVerse from. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2013, at 10:28 AM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: I take a slightly different approach. If it's a track I know I'll use playlists on, I usually leave the first playlist blank and comp onto that. Main reason being that when PT assigns numbers to playlists, then the playlist numbers PT adds on stay in sync with the number of the take. For some reason, I find that helps me to keep track of stuff a little easier. Hth Scott On 10/2/13, matt diemert mcdiem...@gmail.com wrote: Absolutely, Working with the play lists allows two things, you can keep focus on the play list in the edit window, and use the track table in the mix window to quickly select tracks. My favorite feature of PT on a mac is being able to keep focus in two different windows! It's extremely easy to quickly create a new PL between takes to give who evers singing or playing a breath, at the end I create a new blank play list, called comped, and once I've comped it, I duplicate it, and do my fades/cross fades etc, this insures if I don't like a fade, I can go back to the original comped track. On 10/2/13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Hmmm, I dunno man, when I'm already dealing with sessions that have high enough track counts as to feel cumbersome, adding a new one for each take doesn't seem to improve the workflow all that much here, it just delays the inevitable. I'd probably end up doing even more button bashing comping the best stuff together from multiple tracks versus multiple playlists. A lot of the time I'm comping with the artist present now rather than doing it on my own time, so the button bashing is bad no matter what stage it comes at. On 10/2/13, TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com wrote: yeah, you can, but i pretty much live in the track list table and use the Shift+a shortcut a lot to arm or unarm tracks. So its quick to unarm, move to the next and arm. On Oct 1, 2013, at 8:34 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: So you creat a new track for each full take? That's something, I imagine you could end up with alot of active tracks at some point, but if it works , that's the bottem line. - Original Message - From: TheOreoMonster monkeypushe...@gmail.com To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 4:23 PM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday That's why i never use playlist. It would slow me down too much to have to to go cycle through them in that manner. can create 5 new tracks at once and cycle through rename as we do a take all quickly in the edit window and if they aren't adjacent or contiguous item chooser can be useful. I keep notes and comp the takes down to one track before mix time so i don't end up with too many tracks then. On Oct 1, 2013, at 7:57 PM, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote: Ooh la la, I didn't know that keystroke existed to create new and duplicate playlists. Cool! Does anyone know whether there are keystrokes to cycle through playlists on the selected track? At the moment, I do this by going to the edit window, interacting with the track and popping the playlist selector menu, so a keystroke would save untold amounts of button bashing here. Cheers Scott On 10/1/13, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote: I figur that I'm just paying my Protools dues right now. thanks again. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Oh, they're definitely useful. I tend to duplicate playlists before I do any distructive editing, and as you say, if you get a really good vocal take. Better to have more material than you can work with, than to not have enough to tie up the session with. Cheers, On 01/10/2013 18:44, Poppa Bear wrote: Thanks for that Chris, the more thoughts I get here, the better I understand how to take advantage of the play list feature. - Original Message - From: Chris Norman To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2013 9:33 AM Subject: Re: Lost a track in a paid session yesterday Firstly, chances are, the audio you lost will be in the Audio Files folder. Secondly, control \ (or whatever that key is in the crook of the enter key), will make a new playlist, and
