Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about setting lead vocal levels

2015-03-27 Thread TheOreoMonster
Keybaord commanders are still quicker than all of that. But that requires to be 
set up ahead of time. 


 On Mar 26, 2015, at 1:40 PM, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Talking of tips… I know this isn’t in any way Pro Tools related, but as we’re 
 tipping anyways… I just found out you can hit VO-D to go to the dock, then 
 start typing the name of the application you want to switch too, then hit 
 enter… Much faster than either CMD+Tab, or Jumplists under windows.
 
 HTH,
 
 Take care,
 
 Chris Norman
 
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 20:13, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com 
 mailto:scottcheswo...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think it's more valuable because it'll allow you to get away from
 the keyboard, and into a better position to do whatever it is you're
 gonna be doing once the actual recording starts. Just a bit less
 switching between frames of mind, if that's not too hippy.
 
 Scott
 
 On 3/26/15, Chris Norman chris.norm...@googlemail.com 
 mailto:chris.norm...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Well, just means you can sing one note at a certain loudness for say 10
 seconds, and you can reliably determine what level it's at.
 
 Cheers,
 
 
 Take care,
 
 Chris Norman
 
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 19:59, Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com 
 mailto:scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Nope. Hitting something harder basically means sending a louder signal
 into it. In PT, a little boost of clip gain is usually the best way to
 do that if it's required.
 
 Chris's hotspot tip is golden btw. Need to remember that one myself
 next time I'm tracking in PT.
 
 Hth
 
 Scott
 
 
 On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 When we say hitting a compressor harder, I've never quite understood
 what
 that exactly means.  Are we saying that we're basically raising the speed
 of
 
 the attack, therefore making it kick in sooner?
 
 Chris.
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Scott Chesworth scottcheswo...@gmail.com 
 mailto:scottcheswo...@gmail.com
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:33 PM
 Subject: Re: Possibly a very obvious, and maybe stupid question about
 setting lead vocal levels
 
 
 When I'm recording myself (not something I'm a fan of), I just play it
 uber safe with the meters and concentrate on the actual performance.
 It's too easy to get distracted. I'd say set levels using the chorus
 and the climax you mentioned, maybe take a slightly longer run at that
 part to make sure you're ramping up as much as you're likely to during
 an actual take. If your peaks are where you want them to be during
 those sections, the verses and other quieter parts will be gravy as we
 say here. If you're still nervous, back off the gain a smidgen for
 safety. Assuming you've got a relatively clean signal path, a couple
 DB less on the way in isn't gonna do anything that can't be
 compensated for with a touch of clip gain later on in the process
 should you discover that you need to hit a compressor a little harder.
 
 Good luck
 
 Scott
 
 On 3/26/15, Christopher-Mark Gilland clgillan...@gmail.com 
 mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com wrote:
 This might seem to most of you like a very very obvious question, and
 yeah,
 I know ultimately at the end of the day, probably what it's gonna boil
 down
 to is, Just listen and use your ears, but I have a song I'm going to
 be
 recording.  It really doesn't have much dynamic volume changes in the
 lead
 vocal.  Don't get me wrong, there is! a climax to the song, but pretty
 much,
 for what it's worth, the song stays fairly close to the same level
 throughout.
 
 If it helps, so you all can listen to it on Youtube or something, the
 song
 is called Mercy Said No, and it's by Greg Long.
 
 Anyway, I don't want to clip during my recording, and obviously I want
 enough wiggleroom before applying any compression, or the like to that
 vocal
 track.  I want to come in probably notch peek around -12DB, no more
 than -10
 pushing it.  That said, seeing this song really doesn't seem to change
 much
 in dynamics, again, it does, but not very much... what is therefore
 probably
 the best way of doing a sound check?  I know how to look at my meters,
 and
 yes, I do have them set to infinity, so that they hold at the peek
 until
 
 I
 reset them, but what I'm saying more is, how do I determine what part
 of
 
 the
 song is probably the loudest, as I hear that is really when setting
 mike
 levels where you want to aim.  I hear you really want to sing the part
 of
 the song where you feel you're going to spike the highest level.  But
 if
 
 the
 song doesn't have much dynamics, then do I just shoot over all for
 -12,
 or
 is there a little trick to this.  What my fear is, is that I'm gonna
 not
 strain, but seeing the chorus does get ever so slightly high for me,
 I'm
 gonna have to push a bit.  Also to get the emotion I need, I'll have
 to
 push.  Again, I did, not! say strain, big 

waves tune

2015-03-27 Thread Steve Sparrow
cool man. I guess the main question is did you get it to work. if so, how 
accessible did you find it. some have said that it used to be in accessible. I 
can seem to get to the controls of the plugin if i apply it to the track 
through audio sweet.
not sure if i have all the controls. The thing is, when i select a key, and 
then go to process audio, it doesn’t seem to change things much, But i think 
it’s doing something, But i I’ve played with things like scale, and range, also 
pitch position.
Any information on waves tune from anyone would be very much appreciated.

I will concidder autotune if waves tune does not work.
t,pain.10111 can anyone tell me if t.pain is comparrable to autotune. or am i 
better to invest in antares.
I’m not necessarily after the auto tune effect. Just need good retuning.

 On 27 Mar 2015, at 2:46 pm, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Honestly Steve I haven't used it in about 18 months, but if I remember when 
 I'm in there I will crank it up. Maybe try starting a new thread on it. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:47 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Numb pad is still down
 
 i also have waves tune. but have not quite found how to get it to work 
 properly.
 How ever all of the controls seem to be accessible and i can find the process 
 audio button. But i’d be interested to know how you use it properly. Is it 
 just a matter of changing the key to get it to properly change the note. What 
 other settings am i looking for to make it do the job.
 
 On 27 Mar 2015, at 1:23 pm, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is marketed as a T-pain auto tune affect and not so much a pitch 
 correction, so I couldn't tell you, I have only used it that way. I also 
 have wave tune, wave light and an older version of Atari's auto tune, but 
 not all of the controls are usable in that version. I just try and whip my 
 clients into singing usable takes, LOL.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:39 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Numb pad is still down
 
 does it do a good job of retuning vocals
 
 On 27 Mar 2015, at 6:15 am, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It was the T-pain affect from Izotope.
 HTH
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 11:21 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Numb pad is still down
 
 Hey by the way poppa. What was the name of that pitch correction plugin you 
 use. you told me about it once before, i did google it, and from what i can 
 see what ever it was called it seemed it was not available anymore, but i’d 
 be interested to do another search for it. auto tune is just so expensive, 
 $350 or something like that. with all the other plugs i have to bye to get 
 operational i need to budget where i can if possible.
 Steve
 
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 4:27 pm, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Steve, really nice to have it back working. I've had a few other 
 slips like that change things before. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 8:37 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Numb pad is still down
 
 hey poppa that’s mad, but damn good when those crazy things happen. I’ve 
 had similar wonderfull strokes of luck like that.
 Glad you got it sorted.
 Steve
 
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 2:45 am, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just an update on my num pad issue, the other day my key board was 
 slipping and my hand pressed multiple keys when I caught it and next 
 thing I knew the numb pad functions were working again. Apparently some 
 key combination changed the functions back by accident. Pretty crazy. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015 2:36 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Numb pad is still down
 
 Papa,
 
 It sounds like there's a system level problem with your num pad. There 
 are no commands to turn off the num pad in Pro Tools. It's either 
 classic, Transport or Shuttle (on HD systems). Apart from that, num lock 
 and num pad commander are the only other variables. Does num pad 
 commander work correctly? Can you enter values from the num pad? Can you 
 enter counter values? are you using an extended keyboard or is it a 
 separate num pad? USB? BlueTooth?
 
 Slau
 
 On Jan 6, 2015, at 5:44 PM, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I’ve taken a break for a few days in the studio, but my numb pad PT 
 commands are still not working. Rew, 

DBFS/LKFS measurement in Pro Tools 9

2015-03-27 Thread Chris Snyder
Hi all,
I am working with Pro Tools 9. For many years, I have used the gain plugin to 
determine peak and rms levels. Now I am moving into work which requires me to 
read the DBFS peak and LKFS levels. Is there a way to determine these levels on 
a track in PT 9?
Any help would be appreciated.

Friendly,
Chris

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RE: waves tune

2015-03-27 Thread Poppa Bear
Hello Steve, I have used it mostly in the same way, by selecting audio and 
applying the effect to the selection through the audio sweet versus placing the 
plugin on an insert. One way to see if you are making changes is to copy audio 
to another track, apply the change with Wave tune to one of the tracks and then 
do a side by side comparison by muting one or the other of the tracks. If you 
find the values changing in the controls then you are making changes. I use a 
control surface to make changes in the parameters. 

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Steve Sparrow
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2015 12:34 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: waves tune

cool man. I guess the main question is did you get it to work. if so, how 
accessible did you find it. some have said that it used to be in accessible. I 
can seem to get to the controls of the plugin if i apply it to the track 
through audio sweet.
not sure if i have all the controls. The thing is, when i select a key, and 
then go to process audio, it doesn’t seem to change things much, But i think 
it’s doing something, But i I’ve played with things like scale, and range, also 
pitch position.
Any information on waves tune from anyone would be very much appreciated.

I will concidder autotune if waves tune does not work.
t,pain.10111 can anyone tell me if t.pain is comparrable to autotune. or am i 
better to invest in antares.
I’m not necessarily after the auto tune effect. Just need good retuning.

 On 27 Mar 2015, at 2:46 pm, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Honestly Steve I haven't used it in about 18 months, but if I remember when 
 I'm in there I will crank it up. Maybe try starting a new thread on it. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 7:47 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Numb pad is still down
 
 i also have waves tune. but have not quite found how to get it to work 
 properly.
 How ever all of the controls seem to be accessible and i can find the process 
 audio button. But i’d be interested to know how you use it properly. Is it 
 just a matter of changing the key to get it to properly change the note. What 
 other settings am i looking for to make it do the job.
 
 On 27 Mar 2015, at 1:23 pm, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It is marketed as a T-pain auto tune affect and not so much a pitch 
 correction, so I couldn't tell you, I have only used it that way. I also 
 have wave tune, wave light and an older version of Atari's auto tune, but 
 not all of the controls are usable in that version. I just try and whip my 
 clients into singing usable takes, LOL.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
 Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 12:39 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Numb pad is still down
 
 does it do a good job of retuning vocals
 
 On 27 Mar 2015, at 6:15 am, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 It was the T-pain affect from Izotope.
 HTH
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2015 11:21 AM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Numb pad is still down
 
 Hey by the way poppa. What was the name of that pitch correction plugin you 
 use. you told me about it once before, i did google it, and from what i can 
 see what ever it was called it seemed it was not available anymore, but i’d 
 be interested to do another search for it. auto tune is just so expensive, 
 $350 or something like that. with all the other plugs i have to bye to get 
 operational i need to budget where i can if possible.
 Steve
 
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 4:27 pm, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Thanks Steve, really nice to have it back working. I've had a few other 
 slips like that change things before. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Steve Sparrow
 Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2015 8:37 PM
 To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Numb pad is still down
 
 hey poppa that’s mad, but damn good when those crazy things happen. I’ve 
 had similar wonderfull strokes of luck like that.
 Glad you got it sorted.
 Steve
 
 On 26 Mar 2015, at 2:45 am, Poppa Bear heavens4r...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Just an update on my num pad issue, the other day my key board was 
 slipping and my hand pressed multiple keys when I caught it and next 
 thing I knew the numb pad functions were working again. Apparently some 
 key combination changed the functions back by accident. Pretty crazy. 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
 Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2015