Re: Possible FloTools keystroke conflict

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Peter,
OK, that makes more sense. The contextual menu approach might be helpful but, 
if anything you wish to do involves clicking or dragging, the problem will be 
that lists of files might not necessarily scroll and thus VoiceOver can be 
focused on an item that is beyond the boundaries of the workspace's window. I 
know the Page Up and Down keys do work in workspace windows. The trouble is 
knowing whether something is truly in view. This is one of the issues I'll be 
working on shortly with Avid among other things. Keep us posted on your 
progress.

Slau

> On May 16, 2017, at 9:18 AM, Peter Bosher  wrote:
> 
> Hi Slau, and thanks to you and others for replies so far.
> 
> 
> First, to clarify, I do actually want to route the VO cursor to the keyboard 
> cursor, so sorry if I added confusion to an already hard to explain operation.
> 
> 
> Second, the import file workaround won't do what I wanted, because as 
> somebody else pointed out, the WorkSpace is the only method which serches 
> through files on all meta-data and across many folders.
> 
> 
> Thirdly,  I'll try the OreoMonster's right-click idea and report back.
> 
> 
> Fourthly, here's one more try at explaining the scenario.
> 
> 
> After searching for, say, heavy rain, or whatever it might be, I have maybe a 
> hundred results from a large effects library.   If I press 'audition', then I 
> can down arrow, and quickly hear the start of each file.  But, when I find 
> one I need, I want to route the VO-cursor to it, so that I can use 
> VO-shift-M, which then lets me either spot it to the edit cursor, or reveal 
> it in finder.  At the moment, I have to try to count down the list, and then 
> re-locate it with the VO-cursor.
> 
> 
> The right-click method may do the trick and I'll try it ASAP, but if anybody 
> knows a simpler reliable way, please do say.
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 15/05/2017 20:09, Slau Halatyn wrote:
>> Hi Peter,
>> The key combination you mention is not used by Flo Tools but, more 
>> importantly, what that combination does is the opposite of what you're 
>> saying you're trying to do. It routes VoiceOver to the keyboard focused item 
>> rather than the other way around. Hope that clears things up.
>> Slau
>> 
>>> On May 15, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Peter Bosher  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure whether this is a FloTools keystroke conflict, but in my 
>>> continuing fight to tame the workspace, which I'll explain below in case 
>>> anyone can help further, I need to route the highlight cursor to the VO 
>>> cursor. The keystroke for this should be VO-shift-F4, but when I press that 
>>> VO speaks "presets", and the routing doesn't happen.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Be that as it may, I've been trying for months now to find a really good 
>>> workflow for auditioning files from the workspace window.   Thanks to your 
>>> suggestions so far, I'm further on than I was, so using hot-spots helps a 
>>> lot, but still, when I have a hundred or more files to audition, what I'm 
>>> trying to do is quickly hear the beginning of each file whilst arrowing 
>>> down. This works, but when I then find a file I want to use, I can't easily 
>>> use the context-menu to 'reveal in finder' for example, because the 
>>> VO-cursor doesn't follow the arrowing.  That is why I was hoping to route 
>>> the VO-cursor to the list, but no joy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If you're still with me, then thanks for your patience, and can you suggest 
>>> any work-around or method to make this process more productive?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Peter
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Possible FloTools keystroke conflict

[Peter Bosher]

Hi Slau, and thanks to you and others for replies so far.


First, to clarify, I do actually want to route the VO cursor to the 
keyboard cursor, so sorry if I added confusion to an already hard to 
explain operation.



Second, the import file workaround won't do what I wanted, because as 
somebody else pointed out, the WorkSpace is the only method which 
serches through files on all meta-data and across many folders.



Thirdly,  I'll try the OreoMonster's right-click idea and report back.


Fourthly, here's one more try at explaining the scenario.


After searching for, say, heavy rain, or whatever it might be, I have 
maybe a hundred results from a large effects library.   If I press 
'audition', then I can down arrow, and quickly hear the start of each 
file.  But, when I find one I need, I want to route the VO-cursor to it, 
so that I can use VO-shift-M, which then lets me either spot it to the 
edit cursor, or reveal it in finder.  At the moment, I have to try to 
count down the list, and then re-locate it with the VO-cursor.



The right-click method may do the trick and I'll try it ASAP, but if 
anybody knows a simpler reliable way, please do say.



Best,


Peter





On 15/05/2017 20:09, Slau Halatyn wrote:

Hi Peter,
The key combination you mention is not used by Flo Tools but, more importantly, 
what that combination does is the opposite of what you're saying you're trying 
to do. It routes VoiceOver to the keyboard focused item rather than the other 
way around. Hope that clears things up.
Slau


On May 15, 2017, at 1:02 PM, Peter Bosher  wrote:

Hi All,


I'm not sure whether this is a FloTools keystroke conflict, but in my continuing fight to 
tame the workspace, which I'll explain below in case anyone can help further, I need to 
route the highlight cursor to the VO cursor. The keystroke for this should be 
VO-shift-F4, but when I press that VO speaks "presets", and the routing doesn't 
happen.


Be that as it may, I've been trying for months now to find a really good 
workflow for auditioning files from the workspace window.   Thanks to your 
suggestions so far, I'm further on than I was, so using hot-spots helps a lot, 
but still, when I have a hundred or more files to audition, what I'm trying to 
do is quickly hear the beginning of each file whilst arrowing down. This works, 
but when I then find a file I want to use, I can't easily use the context-menu 
to 'reveal in finder' for example, because the VO-cursor doesn't follow the 
arrowing.  That is why I was hoping to route the VO-cursor to the list, but no 
joy.


If you're still with me, then thanks for your patience, and can you suggest any 
work-around or method to make this process more productive?


Best,


Peter


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Avid Eleven Rack

[Martin (Punky) Sopart]

Hi all!

Is someone working wiht the Eleven Rack hardware.
Is it accessible regarding fx settings, order etc.
Or is it more accessible via Mac/PC?

Thanks in advance! / Martin

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