Superior Drummer versions

2017-11-30 Thread Peter Bosher

Hi All,


I have SD 2 on DVD which I've been using under Windows.


When I try to install it on the Mac it refuses, saying  I need OS 10.4 
or higher.  I'm actually running Sierra.  Question:  will the last 
version of SD2 run under Sierra?   If so, then I guess I can get this 
via the Product Manager.  If not, then from recent messages I see that 
there are doubts about the accessibility of SD3, so in short, what's my 
best option for SD with PT?



Best,


Peter


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RE: Superior Drummer versions

2017-11-30 Thread Phil Muir
Hey Pete.  You can get the latest version of Superior Drummer 2 witch is
2.4.4 from the Toontrack website.  Superior Drummer 3 is currently
inaccessible.  Slau and I have made them aware of the issues and it's down
to the fact that they wrote SD3 using the Juce platform.  Unfortunately
there is no accessibility API available in the Juce platform so unless this
is addressed in the future I can't see SD3 becoming accessible any time
soon.

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Subject: Superior Drummer versions

Hi All,


I have SD 2 on DVD which I've been using under Windows.


When I try to install it on the Mac it refuses, saying  I need OS 10.4 
or higher.  I'm actually running Sierra.  Question:  will the last 
version of SD2 run under Sierra?   If so, then I guess I can get this 
via the Product Manager.  If not, then from recent messages I see that 
there are doubts about the accessibility of SD3, so in short, what's my 
best option for SD with PT?


Best,


Peter


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Re: Starting with Pro Tools

2017-11-30 Thread Slau Halatyn
Done.

> On Nov 29, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Nathaniel Kile  wrote:
> 
> Hello Slau, <>
> I was never connected to the drop box folder, would you mind sending me the 
> same information?
>  
> Thanks,
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com 
>  
>  
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:43 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Starting with Pro Tools
>  
> Hi Charles,
> Welcome to the list. I've send you relevant links for the Drop Boxes.
>  
> Regarding the Instruments, you should have them in your account already. Log 
> into your Avid account and go to your products. There you should see the AIR 
> Instruments bundle and Effects bundle. Be aware that, once you've installed 
> everything, you'll need to update the Mini Grand and Structure plug-ins. Find 
> those links in the Drop Box. Also, the account page is a bit funky and you 
> sometimes need to interact with an item to get to the actual "show" link to 
> expand the items to see the entire contents of the item. If you have trouble, 
> let us know.
>  
> When creating a session, toward the bottom of the Dashboard, there's a radio 
> button for selecting the location where the session will be saved. Select 
> that radio button and you'll be prompted for the session location when you 
> proceed.
>  
> When installing libraries, it's best to install them to their default 
> locations and subsequently use SymLinker to move the samples to external 
> drives. we can get to that when you're ready. Hope that helps for now. Cheers,
> slau
>  
>> On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Charles > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hello everybody.  My name is Charle's Marston and I just purchased Pro Tools 
>> during the black friday sale.  I have also purchased the Pro Tools with 
>> speech tutorials.  i have a request and a couple of questions.  First, can I 
>> have access to the Pro Tools dropbox Folder?  Are there any other resources 
>> I should be aware of for Voiceover users?  One question I have is regarding 
>> the vertual instruments included with Pro Tools.  It was my understanding 
>> that Pro Tools does include some virtual instruments, however when I tried 
>> to open the editing session that comes with the pro Tools tutorials, I got 
>> the message that I needed to install the virtual instruments from Avid.  I 
>> clicked on the link that took me to the Avid page for that instrument but it 
>> was telling me that it was 19 dollars for a one year subscription.  Is this 
>> correct or I should already have access to this instrument?  Any advise as 
>> to what I should do?  On a related question, I bought an SSD drive for 
>> samples.  Any helpful tips for making sure that I install the sample 
>> libraries in the SSD?  I also bought a 7200 HDD for recording.  When I get 
>> the create a new session window, I have not been able to figure out how to 
>> put that new session in my external HDD.  So, for now I am just creating a 
>> new empty session and then I do a save as wich does allow me to put it in 
>> external drive.  I would appreciate any advise on the best way to do this.  
>> I am using a Mac Mini I 7 dual core with 16 gigs uf ram.  I got the full 
>> version of Pro Tools withe the one year upgrade package.  I also bought the 
>> Native Instruments Komplete Ultimate.  Can someone qoint me out to any 
>> helpful resources?  I think there might be a dropbox for the Komplete 
>> Kontrol as well.  Thans for any help you can provide.  Have a grate day. 
>> 
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Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity with soft tube controler

2017-11-30 Thread Frank Carmickle
Hi folks,

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.


--FC
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Nate,
> No not at this point! :(
> In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!
> 
> But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick <>
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:
> 
>> I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that 
>> you can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the 
>> changes with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking 
>> at it about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar. <>
>>  
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>> instruction for schools
>> Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>> www.yourtechvision.com 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:48 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
>> with soft tube controler
>>  
>> Console one was made to control some of the soft tube plug ins and the UAD 
>> plug in and now the UAD console. I don’t know how much functionality it has 
>> outside of those areas as in if it can be use to control the DAW as well. 
>> Also It seems PreSonus took some additional steps to allow some 
>> functionality with pro tools in the fader port 8, that you wouldn’t normally 
>> get with a non Avid/ProTOols controller, so you may still be interested in 
>> the Fader Port. Speaking of which zounds has the fader port 8 for $100 off 
>> today. 
>> https://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?q=blackfriday2017&cat2=3297&form=email_C2294700&utm_source=WhatCountsEmail&utm_medium=zzounds_newsletterzZounds+NWAY%5B1%5D+Active&utm_campaign=C2294700+112717+Cyber+Monday+Deals&_wcsid=302FD9A23B98DD8D3723FA4D86F9D65D2E6AE64CBF1B101C
>>  
>> 
>>  
>>  
>> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Andre Jarreau > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Guys,
>> Am I to understand the new SoftTube Controller One can take the place of a 
>> FaderPort surface controller for accessible PT control?  That and an Apollo?
>>  
>> Andre
>>  
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 6:25 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
>> with soft tube controler
>>  
>> Hello Bryan,
>> Thank you for sharing. When I am done with work I will check it out. I got 
>> my Apollo 8P in the mail today.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>> instruction for schools
>> Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>> www.yourtechvision.com 
>>  
>>  
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Brian Casey
>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:06 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity with 
>> soft tube controler
>>  
>> Hi all, 
>>  
>> Not a UA interface user myself but thought  I should post this given recent 
>> discussions on interfaces. 
>>  
>> At first glance it seems a 500 buvk inbestment in soft tube's controler 
>> could open up physical control of many funvtions of the oppolo which are not 
>> yet accessible with boice over. 
>>  
>> https://www.softube.com/index.php?id=apollocentral 
>> 

RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity with soft tube controler

2017-11-30 Thread Andre Jarreau
Just got off the phone with a distributer for SoundTube and Apollo.  He said 
the new Console One is now called Console Mark II and has complete control over 
over an Apollo interface and plugins.  

 

He didn’t know about VoiceOver.  He did say It can control the DAW to some 
extent.  He thought a large percentage but didn’t say what percentage.

 

My feeling is that the Console Mark II and an Apollo quad core is a good fit 
for PT and a Mac. Though don’t know how well it will play with FlowTools.

Andre 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:19 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:





I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that you 
can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the changes 
with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking at it 
about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:48 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Console one was made to control some of the soft tube plug ins and the UAD plug 
in and now the UAD console. I don’t know how much functionality it has outside 
of those areas as in if it can be use to control the DAW as well. Also It seems 
PreSonus took some additional steps to allow some functionality with pro tools 
in the fader port 8, that you wouldn’t normally get with a non Avid/ProTOols 
controller, so you may still be interested in the Fader Port. Speaking of which 
zounds has the fader port 8 for $100 off today. 

https://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?q=blackfriday2017 

 
&cat2=3297&form=email_C2294700&utm_source=WhatCountsEmail&utm_medium=zzounds_newsletterzZounds+NWAY%5B1%5D+Active&utm_campaign=C2294700+112717+Cyber+Monday+Deals&_wcsid=302FD9A23B98DD8D3723FA4D86F9D65D2E6AE64CBF1B101C

 

 

On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Andre Jarreau  wrote:

 

Hi Guys,

Am I to understand the new SoftTube Controller One can take the place of a 
FaderPort surface controller for accessible PT control?  That and an Apollo?

 

Andre

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 6:25 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hello Bryan,

Thank you for sharing. When I am done with work I will check it out. I got my 
Apollo 8P in the mail today.

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Brian Casey
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 3:06 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com

Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity with soft tube controler

2017-11-30 Thread TheOreoMonster
Flo Tools is a non issue here. Flo Tools is a set of scripts to provide some 
additional keyboard shortcut and spoken feedback for voice over users. Flo 
Tools will not  have any control over any audio interfaces. Also short of using 
one of Avid branded control surfaces, 3rd party control surfaces are by 
definition Limited by comparison with what they can do in Pro Tools. This is 
probably why they couldn’t speak to what extent it could control the DAW. So 
while The Soft Tube  Console One surface can make use of controlling UAD and 
Soft tube plug in’s in Protools, which I imagine will be a great out of the box 
experience if the console one comes set up to work with  those plug ins 
automatically, I don’t see this increasing accessibility in the UAD console 
application. The UAD console application when last I used it just showed up as 
a blank screen to VoiceOver. So even though you can change the values of 
parameters with the Console one, unless VO is able to see and read out those 
values being adjusted, there will still be no way to know what values are being 
changed.And that doesn’t even begin to address how you would select channels 
and load plug ins onto said channels in the UAD console to record through if 
the whole thing shows up as a blank screen to VoiceOver. I think the console 
one is intended to speed workflow for those that can already see the screen so  
they don’t have to  fiddle with a keyboard or mouse to adjust values, but with 
current data/knowledge I don’t see how it can resolve the accessibility issue.  
The only other way I see being able to take advantage of UAD’s unison 
technology short of Universal Audio making the UAD console accessible, is if 
they allow for when you instantiate a  plug in inside of the DAW, that it too 
can trigger the Unison changes in the Preamp. Latency is low enough  now on 
thunderbolt interfaces and the plug ins are already running off their DSP chips 
so they won’t be adding any additional CPU hit. Until they fix this problem, 
PreSonus, Apogee, Focusrite and others have a host of comparable quality 
Thunderbolt  interfaces that lets you track through plugs ins while recording 
due to having sub 2ms of latency. Waves, Brainworks and other high end Plug in 
makers also have comparable software emulations of a lot of the same classic 
analog hardware on UAD’s platform. I feel we have options, so vote with your 
wallets.  
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Andre Jarreau  
> wrote:
> 
> Just got off the phone with a distributer for SoundTube and Apollo.  He said 
> the new Console One is now called Console Mark II and has complete control 
> over over an Apollo interface and plugins.  
>  
> He didn’t know about VoiceOver.  He did say It can control the DAW to some 
> extent.  He thought a large percentage but didn’t say what percentage.
>  
> My feeling is that the Console Mark II and an Apollo quad core is a good fit 
> for PT and a Mac. Though don’t know how well it will play with FlowTools.
> Andre 
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Frank Carmickle
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:19 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
> with soft tube controler
>  
> Hi folks,
>  
> I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
> time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
> obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
> some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
> end up with this please.
>  
>  
> --FC
>> On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Nate,
>> No not at this point! :(
>> In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!
>>  
>> But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick <>
>> Chuck
>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>> "Albert Einstein’
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that 
>> you can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the 
>> changes with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking 
>> at it about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.
>>  
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>> instruction for schools
>> Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>> www.yourtechvision.com 
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com 

RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity with soft tube controler

2017-11-30 Thread Nathaniel Kile
Hello,

That is the big question. So, in the Consile 1 interface, the UA plugins all 
show up and bypass the UA screen. So, can voice over read the Consile 1 screen? 
That is the big question.

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 10:25 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Flo Tools is a non issue here. Flo Tools is a set of scripts to provide some 
additional keyboard shortcut and spoken feedback for voice over users. Flo 
Tools will not  have any control over any audio interfaces. Also short of using 
one of Avid branded control surfaces, 3rd party control surfaces are by 
definition Limited by comparison with what they can do in Pro Tools. This is 
probably why they couldn’t speak to what extent it could control the DAW. So 
while The Soft Tube  Console One surface can make use of controlling UAD and 
Soft tube plug in’s in Protools, which I imagine will be a great out of the box 
experience if the console one comes set up to work with  those plug ins 
automatically, I don’t see this increasing accessibility in the UAD console 
application. The UAD console application when last I used it just showed up as 
a blank screen to VoiceOver. So even though you can change the values of 
parameters with the Console one, unless VO is able to see and read out those 
values being adjusted, there will still be no way to know what values are being 
changed.And that doesn’t even begin to address how you would select channels 
and load plug ins onto said channels in the UAD console to record through if 
the whole thing shows up as a blank screen to VoiceOver. I think the console 
one is intended to speed workflow for those that can already see the screen so  
they don’t have to  fiddle with a keyboard or mouse to adjust values, but with 
current data/knowledge I don’t see how it can resolve the accessibility issue.  
The only other way I see being able to take advantage of UAD’s unison 
technology short of Universal Audio making the UAD console accessible, is if 
they allow for when you instantiate a  plug in inside of the DAW, that it too 
can trigger the Unison changes in the Preamp. Latency is low enough  now on 
thunderbolt interfaces and the plug ins are already running off their DSP chips 
so they won’t be adding any additional CPU hit. Until they fix this problem, 
PreSonus, Apogee, Focusrite and others have a host of comparable quality 
Thunderbolt  interfaces that lets you track through plugs ins while recording 
due to having sub 2ms of latency. Waves, Brainworks and other high end Plug in 
makers also have comparable software emulations of a lot of the same classic 
analog hardware on UAD’s platform. I feel we have options, so vote with your 
wallets.  

On Nov 30, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Andre Jarreau mailto:andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Just got off the phone with a distributer for SoundTube and Apollo.  He said 
the new Console One is now called Console Mark II and has complete control over 
over an Apollo interface and plugins.  

 

He didn’t know about VoiceOver.  He did say It can control the DAW to some 
extent.  He thought a large percentage but didn’t say what percentage.

 

My feeling is that the Console Mark II and an Apollo quad core is a good fit 
for PT and a Mac. Though don’t know how well it will play with FlowTools.

Andre 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:19 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL < 
 soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Nathaniel Kile
>From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>parameters on the actual hardware unit.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:





I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that you 
can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the changes 
with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking at it 
about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:48 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Console one was made to control some of the soft tube plug ins and the UAD plug 
in and now the UAD console. I don’t know how much functionality it has outside 
of those areas as in if it can be use to control the DAW as well. Also It seems 
PreSonus took some additional steps to allow some functionality with pro tools 
in the fader port 8, that you wouldn’t normally get with a non Avid/ProTOols 
controller, so you may still be interested in the Fader Port. Speaking of which 
zounds has the fader port 8 for $100 off today. 

https://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?q=blackfriday2017 

 
&cat2=3297&form=email_C2294700&utm_source=WhatCountsEmail&utm_medium=zzounds_newsletterzZounds+NWAY%5B1%5D+Active&utm_campaign=C2294700+112717+Cyber+Monday+Deals&_wcsid=302FD9A23B98DD8D3723FA4D86F9D65D2E6AE64CBF1B101C

 

 

On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Andre Jarreau mailto:andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Hi Guys,

Am I to understand the new SoftTube Controller One can take the place of a 
FaderPort surface controller for accessible PT control?  That and an Apollo?

 

Andre

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 6:25 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hello Bryan,

Thank you for sharing. When I am done with work I will check it out. I got my 
Apollo 8P in the mail today.

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

From:  

RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity with soft tube controler

2017-11-30 Thread Andre Jarreau
I’m not quite tracking with you on this.  Can you call my cell?

Andre

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 1:25 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Flo Tools is a non issue here. Flo Tools is a set of scripts to provide some 
additional keyboard shortcut and spoken feedback for voice over users. Flo 
Tools will not  have any control over any audio interfaces. Also short of using 
one of Avid branded control surfaces, 3rd party control surfaces are by 
definition Limited by comparison with what they can do in Pro Tools. This is 
probably why they couldn’t speak to what extent it could control the DAW. So 
while The Soft Tube  Console One surface can make use of controlling UAD and 
Soft tube plug in’s in Protools, which I imagine will be a great out of the box 
experience if the console one comes set up to work with  those plug ins 
automatically, I don’t see this increasing accessibility in the UAD console 
application. The UAD console application when last I used it just showed up as 
a blank screen to VoiceOver. So even though you can change the values of 
parameters with the Console one, unless VO is able to see and read out those 
values being adjusted, there will still be no way to know what values are being 
changed.And that doesn’t even begin to address how you would select channels 
and load plug ins onto said channels in the UAD console to record through if 
the whole thing shows up as a blank screen to VoiceOver. I think the console 
one is intended to speed workflow for those that can already see the screen so  
they don’t have to  fiddle with a keyboard or mouse to adjust values, but with 
current data/knowledge I don’t see how it can resolve the accessibility issue.  
The only other way I see being able to take advantage of UAD’s unison 
technology short of Universal Audio making the UAD console accessible, is if 
they allow for when you instantiate a  plug in inside of the DAW, that it too 
can trigger the Unison changes in the Preamp. Latency is low enough  now on 
thunderbolt interfaces and the plug ins are already running off their DSP chips 
so they won’t be adding any additional CPU hit. Until they fix this problem, 
PreSonus, Apogee, Focusrite and others have a host of comparable quality 
Thunderbolt  interfaces that lets you track through plugs ins while recording 
due to having sub 2ms of latency. Waves, Brainworks and other high end Plug in 
makers also have comparable software emulations of a lot of the same classic 
analog hardware on UAD’s platform. I feel we have options, so vote with your 
wallets.  

On Nov 30, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Andre Jarreau  wrote:

 

Just got off the phone with a distributer for SoundTube and Apollo.  He said 
the new Console One is now called Console Mark II and has complete control over 
over an Apollo interface and plugins.  

 

He didn’t know about VoiceOver.  He did say It can control the DAW to some 
extent.  He thought a large percentage but didn’t say what percentage.

 

My feeling is that the Console Mark II and an Apollo quad core is a good fit 
for PT and a Mac. Though don’t know how well it will play with FlowTools.

Andre 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:19 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL < 
 soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:






I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that you 
can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the changes 
with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking at it 
about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
produc

RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Andre Jarreau
Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
have to look at the screen at all.

 

The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.

Andre

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

>From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>parameters on the actual hardware unit.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:

 

I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that you 
can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the changes 
with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking at it 
about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:48 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Console one was made to control some of the soft tube plug ins and the UAD plug 
in and now the UAD console. I don’t know how much functionality it has outside 
of those areas as in if it can be use to control the DAW as well. Also It seems 
PreSonus took some additional steps to allow some functionality with pro tools 
in the fader port 8, that you wouldn’t normally get with a non Avid/ProTOols 
controller, so you may still be interested in the Fader Port. Speaking of which 
zounds has the fader port 8 for $100 off today. 

https://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?q=blackfriday2017 

 
&cat2=3297&form=email_C2294700&utm_source=WhatCountsEmail&utm_medium=zzounds_newsletterzZounds+NWAY%5B1%5D+Active&utm_campaign=C2294700+112717+Cyber+Monday+Deals&_wcsid=302FD9A23B98DD8D3723FA4D86F9D65D2E6AE64CBF1B101C

 

 

On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Andre Jarreau  wrote:

 

Hi Guys,

Am I to understand the new SoftTube Controller One can take the place of a 
FaderPort surface controller for accessible PT control?  That and an Apollo?

 

Andre

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 6:25 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hello Bryan,

Thank you for sharing. When I am done with work I will check it out. I got my 
A

Re: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread CHUCK REICHEL
Hi Andre,
until some one gets there hand and 'ears" on it while using VoiceOver we won't 
know!
But if it does boy what a UaD breakthrough!
Has anybody given it a test ride yet?
Chuck
"God does not play dice with the universe"
"Albert Einstein’



On Nov 30, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau wrote:

> Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
> have to look at the screen at all.
>  
> The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
> were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
> what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.
> Andre
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Nathaniel Kile
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
> with soft tube controller
>  
> From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
> Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
> parameters on the actual hardware unit.
>  
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com
>  
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Frank Carmickle
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
> with soft tube controler
>  
> Hi folks,
>  
> I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
> time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
> obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
> some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
> end up with this please.
>  
>  
> --FC
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
> wrote:
>  
> Hi Nate,
> No not at this point! :(
> In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!
>  
> But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
>  
>  
>  
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:
>  
> 
> I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that 
> you can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the 
> changes with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking 
> at it about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.
>  
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com
>  
>  
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:48 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
> with soft tube controler
>  
> Console one was made to control some of the soft tube plug ins and the UAD 
> plug in and now the UAD console. I don’t know how much functionality it has 
> outside of those areas as in if it can be use to control the DAW as well. 
> Also It seems PreSonus took some additional steps to allow some functionality 
> with pro tools in the fader port 8, that you wouldn’t normally get with a non 
> Avid/ProTOols controller, so you may still be interested in the Fader Port. 
> Speaking of which zounds has the fader port 8 for $100 off today. 
> https://www.zzounds.com/prodsearch?q=blackfriday2017&cat2=3297&form=email_C2294700&utm_source=WhatCountsEmail&utm_medium=zzounds_newsletterzZounds+NWAY%5B1%5D+Active&utm_campaign=C2294700+112717+Cyber+Monday+Deals&_wcsid=302FD9A23B98DD8D3723FA4D86F9D65D2E6AE64CBF1B101C
>  
>  
> On Nov 27, 2017, at 9:28 PM, Andre Jarreau  
> wrote:
>  
> Hi Guys,
> Am I to understand the new SoftTube Controller One can take the place of a 
> FaderPort surface controller for accessible PT control?  That and an Apollo?
>  
> Andre
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
> Of Nathaniel Kile
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 6:25 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
> with soft tube controler
>  
> Hello Bryan,
> Thank you for sharing. When I am done with work I will check it out. I 

RE: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Nathaniel Kile
I am considering trying to contact Pro Tools expert from youtube, he has 
reviewed it recently in conjunction with the Apollo. I will let you know what I 
hear back.

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:22 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

Hi Andre,

until some one gets there hand and 'ears" on it while using VoiceOver we won't 
know!

But if it does boy what a UaD breakthrough!

Has anybody given it a test ride yet?

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 30, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau wrote:





Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
have to look at the screen at all.

 

The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.

Andre

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

>From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>parameters on the actual hardware unit.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL mailto:soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:

 

I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that you 
can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the changes 
with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking at it 
about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com   
[mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:48 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Console one was made to control some of the soft tube plug ins and the UAD plug 
in and now the UAD console. I don’t know how much functionality it has outside 
of those areas as in if it can be use to control the DAW as well. Also It seems 
PreSonus took some additional steps to allow some functionality with pro tools 
in the fader port 8, that you would

RE: Starting with Pro Tools

2017-11-30 Thread Nathaniel Kile
Thanks Slau!

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:48 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Starting with Pro Tools

 

Done.

 

On Nov 29, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Nathaniel Kile mailto:heavens4r...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Hello Slau,

I was never connected to the drop box folder, would you mind sending me the 
same information?

 

Thanks,

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2017 6:43 AM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Starting with Pro Tools

 

Hi Charles,

Welcome to the list. I've send you relevant links for the Drop Boxes.

 

Regarding the Instruments, you should have them in your account already. Log 
into your Avid account and go to your products. There you should see the AIR 
Instruments bundle and Effects bundle. Be aware that, once you've installed 
everything, you'll need to update the Mini Grand and Structure plug-ins. Find 
those links in the Drop Box. Also, the account page is a bit funky and you 
sometimes need to interact with an item to get to the actual "show" link to 
expand the items to see the entire contents of the item. If you have trouble, 
let us know.

 

When creating a session, toward the bottom of the Dashboard, there's a radio 
button for selecting the location where the session will be saved. Select that 
radio button and you'll be prompted for the session location when you proceed.

 

When installing libraries, it's best to install them to their default locations 
and subsequently use SymLinker to move the samples to external drives. we can 
get to that when you're ready. Hope that helps for now. Cheers,

slau

 

On Nov 29, 2017, at 8:18 AM, Charles <  
rumber...@hotmail.com> wrote:

 

Hello everybody.  My name is Charle's Marston and I just purchased Pro Tools 
during the black friday sale.  I have also purchased the Pro Tools with speech 
tutorials.  i have a request and a couple of questions.  First, can I have 
access to the Pro Tools dropbox Folder?  Are there any other resources I should 
be aware of for Voiceover users?  One question I have is regarding the vertual 
instruments included with Pro Tools.  It was my understanding that Pro Tools 
does include some virtual instruments, however when I tried to open the editing 
session that comes with the pro Tools tutorials, I got the message that I 
needed to install the virtual instruments from Avid.  I clicked on the link 
that took me to the Avid page for that instrument but it was telling me that it 
was 19 dollars for a one year subscription.  Is this correct or I should 
already have access to this instrument?  Any advise as to what I should do?  On 
a related question, I bought an SSD drive for samples.  Any helpful tips for 
making sure that I install the sample libraries in the SSD?  I also bought a 
7200 HDD for recording.  When I get the create a new session window, I have not 
been able to figure out how to put that new session in my external HDD.  So, 
for now I am just creating a new empty session and then I do a save as wich 
does allow me to put it in external drive.  I would appreciate any advise on 
the best way to do this.  I am using a Mac Mini I 7 dual core with 16 gigs uf 
ram.  I got the full version of Pro Tools withe the one year upgrade package.  
I also bought the Native Instruments Komplete Ultimate.  Can someone qoint me 
out to any helpful resources?  I think there might be a dropbox for the 
Komplete Kontrol as well.  Thans for any help you can provide.  Have a grate 
day. 

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RE: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Andre Jarreau
Very interested In the results you find.

Andre

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:31 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

I am considering trying to contact Pro Tools expert from youtube, he has 
reviewed it recently in conjunction with the Apollo. I will let you know what I 
hear back.

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:22 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

Hi Andre,

until some one gets there hand and 'ears" on it while using VoiceOver we won't 
know!

But if it does boy what a UaD breakthrough!

Has anybody given it a test ride yet?

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 30, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau wrote:

 

Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
have to look at the screen at all.

 

The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.

Andre

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

>From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>parameters on the actual hardware unit.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL  
wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:

 

I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that you 
can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the changes 
with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking at it 
about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:48 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Console one was made to control some of the soft tube plug ins and the UAD plug 
in and now the UAD console. I don’t know how much functionality it has outside 
of those areas as in if it can be use to control the DAW as well. Also It seems 
PreSonus took some additional steps to allow

Re: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Slau Halatyn
Dan Cooper's a friend. I'll give him a shout and look into it.
Slau

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Nathaniel Kile  wrote:
> 
> I am considering trying to contact Pro Tools expert from youtube, he has 
> reviewed it recently in conjunction with the Apollo. I will let you know what 
> I hear back. <>
>  
>  
>  
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com 
>  
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of CHUCK REICHEL
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:22 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
> with soft tube controller
>  
> Hi Andre,
> until some one gets there hand and 'ears" on it while using VoiceOver we 
> won't know!
> But if it does boy what a UaD breakthrough!
> Has anybody given it a test ride yet?
> Chuck
> "God does not play dice with the universe"
> "Albert Einstein’
>  
>  
>  
> On Nov 30, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau wrote:
> 
> 
>> Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
>> have to look at the screen at all.
>>  
>> The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
>> were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
>> what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.
>> Andre
>>  
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
>> with soft tube controller
>>  
>> From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>> Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>> parameters on the actual hardware unit.
>>  
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>> instruction for schools
>> Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>> www.yourtechvision.com 
>>  
>>  
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Frank Carmickle
>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
>> with soft tube controler
>>  
>> Hi folks,
>>  
>> I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
>> time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
>> obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could 
>> get some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know 
>> where you end up with this please.
>>  
>>  
>> --FC
>>> On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL >> > wrote:
>>>  
>>> Hi Nate,
>>> No not at this point! :(
>>> In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!
>>>  
>>> But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick
>>> Chuck
>>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>>> "Albert Einstein’
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:
>>>  
>>> 
 I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that 
 you can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the 
 changes with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just 
 looking at it about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.
  
 Nate Kile,
 Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
 Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
 instruction for schools
 Also Private training to your needs
 907-444-3707
 Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
 products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
 www.yourtechvision.com 
  
  
  
 From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
 [mailto:ptaccess@googlegrou

Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread TheOreoMonster
Yes the goal of the Console one (the hardware control surface) is so that 
engineers won’t have to look at the screen. However in the UAD Console (the 
software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) one 
would first need to use a mouse to select a blank plug in slot and load a plug 
into said slot. Once a plug in is loaded and selected,  One can use the Console 
one (hardware control surface) to  change the parameters in the loaded plug in. 
 Because they are adjusting the knobs from a hardware surface, they won’t have 
to look at the screen and can close their eyes and adjust until things sound 
right. Given that so far there is no VoiceOver support in the UAD Console 
> (the software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) 
> we still have to figure out a way to get the plug in loaded into a blank slot 
> on a given channel , before we can start changing it’s parameters with the 
> Console One (hardware control surface). This is why I don’t force the Console 
> one (hardware control surface) changing the game as far as allowing us to use 
> the UAD Console. In pro tools this won’t be an issue as  the pro tools mixer 
> is accessible so we can load a plug in into a blank slot there and change the 
> parameters with the Console one (Hardware control surface). On Nov 30, 2017, 
> at 3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau  wrote:
> 
> Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
> have to look at the screen at all.
>  
> The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
> were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
> what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.
> Andre
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
> with soft tube controller
>  
> From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
> Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
> parameters on the actual hardware unit. <>
>  
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
> www.yourtechvision.com 
>  
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of Frank Carmickle
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
> with soft tube controler
>  
> Hi folks,
>  
> I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
> time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
> obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
> some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
> end up with this please.
>  
>  
> --FC
>> On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL > > wrote:
>>  
>> Hi Nate,
>> No not at this point! :(
>> In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!
>>  
>> But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick
>> Chuck
>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>> "Albert Einstein’
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:
>>  
>> 
>>> I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that 
>>> you can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the 
>>> changes with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just 
>>> looking at it about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.
>>>  
>>> Nate Kile,
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
>>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>>> instruction for schools
>>> Also Private training to your needs
>>> 907-444-3707
>>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>>> www.yourtechvision.com 
>>>  
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
>>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
>>> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
>>> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:48 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 

RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Andre Jarreau
Very interesting.  it is my newbee understanding with the Console Mark II that 
after installation and and initialization all loaded plugins are recognized 
automatically and choosing which plugin is easily done.  

 

If I am correct the Apollo has a free software download that allows greater 
control by the Mark II.  So the Mark II can be handled by listening and turning 
knobs as you say.  I feel there is something to this 
controller-interface-software combination.  However I might be as right as 
wrong can be, dunno yet.  

 

Really looking forward to finding out what Slau and Nate will learn from their 
contacts who have tested the Mark II with VO.

 

Andre

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 8:53 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

Yes the goal of the Console one (the hardware control surface) is so that 
engineers won’t have to look at the screen. However in the UAD Console (the 
software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) one 
would first need to use a mouse to select a blank plug in slot and load a plug 
into said slot. Once a plug in is loaded and selected,  One can use the Console 
one (hardware control surface) to  change the parameters in the loaded plug in. 
 Because they are adjusting the knobs from a hardware surface, they won’t have 
to look at the screen and can close their eyes and adjust until things sound 
right. Given that so far there is no VoiceOver support in the UAD Console 

(the software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) 
we still have to figure out a way to get the plug in loaded into a blank slot 
on a given channel , before we can start changing it’s parameters with the 
Console One (hardware control surface). This is why I don’t force the Console 
one (hardware control surface) changing the game as far as allowing us to use 
the UAD Console. In pro tools this won’t be an issue as  the pro tools mixer is 
accessible so we can load a plug in into a blank slot there and change the 
parameters with the Console one (Hardware control surface). On Nov 30, 2017, at 
3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau  wrote:

 

Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
have to look at the screen at all.

 

The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.

Andre

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

>From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>parameters on the actual hardware unit.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL < 
 soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:

 

I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that you 
can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the ch

RE: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Nathaniel Kile
Hello Slau,

That would be great?

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 3:23 PM
To: PTAccess List 
Subject: Re: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

Dan Cooper's a friend. I'll give him a shout and look into it.

Slau

 

On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Nathaniel Kile mailto:heavens4r...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

I am considering trying to contact Pro Tools expert from youtube, he has 
reviewed it recently in conjunction with the Apollo. I will let you know what I 
hear back.

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of CHUCK REICHEL
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:22 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

Hi Andre,

until some one gets there hand and 'ears" on it while using VoiceOver we won't 
know!

But if it does boy what a UaD breakthrough!

Has anybody given it a test ride yet?

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 30, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau wrote:






Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
have to look at the screen at all.

 

The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.

Andre

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

>From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>parameters on the actual hardware unit.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL < 
 soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:

 

I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that you 
can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they see the changes 
with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was just looking at it 
about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the radar.

 

Nate Kile,

Assis

RE: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Nathaniel Kile
I don’t think that is correct, from what I am reading and listing to through 
the you tube videos, the console 1 can display all of the UA Apollo parameters, 
including the Unison plug ins. There are dedicated controls on the Console 1 
which will select the plug ins as well.

 

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:54 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

Yes the goal of the Console one (the hardware control surface) is so that 
engineers won’t have to look at the screen. However in the UAD Console (the 
software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) one 
would first need to use a mouse to select a blank plug in slot and load a plug 
into said slot. Once a plug in is loaded and selected,  One can use the Console 
one (hardware control surface) to  change the parameters in the loaded plug in. 
 Because they are adjusting the knobs from a hardware surface, they won’t have 
to look at the screen and can close their eyes and adjust until things sound 
right. Given that so far there is no VoiceOver support in the UAD Console 

(the software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) 
we still have to figure out a way to get the plug in loaded into a blank slot 
on a given channel , before we can start changing it’s parameters with the 
Console One (hardware control surface). This is why I don’t force the Console 
one (hardware control surface) changing the game as far as allowing us to use 
the UAD Console. In pro tools this won’t be an issue as  the pro tools mixer is 
accessible so we can load a plug in into a blank slot there and change the 
parameters with the Console one (Hardware control surface). On Nov 30, 2017, at 
3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau mailto:andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
have to look at the screen at all.

 

The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.

Andre

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

>From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>parameters on the actual hardware unit.

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com

 

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Frank Carmickle
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
with soft tube controler

 

Hi folks,

 

I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At that 
time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I tried to 
obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe we could get 
some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me know where you 
end up with this please.

 

 

--FC

On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL < 
 soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Hi Nate,

No not at this point! :(

In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!

 

But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick

Chuck

"God does not play dice with the universe"

"Albert Einstein’

 

 

 

On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:

 

I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know that you 
can not contro

Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread TheOreoMonster
The way the UAD software works wen last I used it, it installed all the UAD 
plug ins, and used your authorization file to see which one are authorized to 
your account. So even in Pro Tools, unless you sort through and hide the ones 
you do not have authorizations for you will have to scroll through a lot of 
plug ins to find the ones you want. When you load a plug in you don’t have an 
authorization for it will prompt you to purchase it or authorize a demo ( a 
process that is not accessible btw). I say that to say this. UAD has about 100 
plug ins in their arsenal alone, So even if the Console one hardware had the 
means of  allowing one to choose a plug in to load to a blank slot in the UAD 
console software, one would still have to cycle through a long list to select 
the plug in to load. And if the UAD console software still shows up as blank to 
VoiceOver, We still won’t be able to select plug ins since there will be no 
spoken feedback. I’d love to be proven wrong here and have this all be 
accessible, I still have plug ins collecting dust in my UAD account I’d like to 
use. But unless the UAD console  software is now visible to voiceover somewhat 
(which btw anyone who has a UAD Apollo and running the latest version of the 
software can answer) We are still in the same boat. 

> On Nov 30, 2017, at 10:23 PM, Andre Jarreau  
> wrote:
> 
> Very interesting.  it is my newbee understanding with the Console Mark II 
> that after installation and and initialization all loaded plugins are 
> recognized automatically and choosing which plugin is easily done.  
>  
> If I am correct the Apollo has a free software download that allows greater 
> control by the Mark II.  So the Mark II can be handled by listening and 
> turning knobs as you say.  I feel there is something to this 
> controller-interface-software combination.  However I might be as right as 
> wrong can be, dunno yet.  
>  
> Really looking forward to finding out what Slau and Nate will learn from 
> their contacts who have tested the Mark II with VO.
>  
> Andre
>  
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
> Behalf Of TheOreoMonster
> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 8:53 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
> with soft tube controller
>  
> Yes the goal of the Console one (the hardware control surface) is so that 
> engineers won’t have to look at the screen. However in the UAD Console (the 
> software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) one 
> would first need to use a mouse to select a blank plug in slot and load a 
> plug into said slot. Once a plug in is loaded and selected,  One can use the 
> Console one (hardware control surface) to  change the parameters in the 
> loaded plug in.  Because they are adjusting the knobs from a hardware 
> surface, they won’t have to look at the screen and can close their eyes and 
> adjust until things sound right. Given that so far there is no VoiceOver 
> support in the UAD Console 
>> (the software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio 
>> interface) we still have to figure out a way to get the plug in loaded into 
>> a blank slot on a given channel , before we can start changing it’s 
>> parameters with the Console One (hardware control surface). This is why I 
>> don’t force the Console one (hardware control surface) changing the game as 
>> far as allowing us to use the UAD Console. In pro tools this won’t be an 
>> issue as  the pro tools mixer is accessible so we can load a plug in into a 
>> blank slot there and change the parameters with the Console one (Hardware 
>> control surface). On Nov 30, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau 
>> mailto:andre.jarr...@earthlink.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would not 
>> have to look at the screen at all.
>>  
>> The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if changes 
>> were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and find out 
>> what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as relevant.
>> Andre
>>  
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com ] On 
>> Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
>> Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
>> with soft tube controller
>>  
>> From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>> Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>> parameters on the actual hardware unit. <>
>>  
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
>> Specialist in Technology

RE: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Nathaniel Kile
Here is a little snip that I pulled up, it wasn’t exactly what I read 
yesterday, but gives the general idea.

“What do I Need to use UAD Plug-Ins With Console 1? 

Apart from the Console 1, you need a UAD Accelerator (Satellite or UAD-2 PCIe 
card) or an Apollo interface, and you need to own the Console 1 ready UAD

plug-in you want to use. With that in place, it's plug and play. The Console 1 
system will automatically identify the Console 1 ready plug-ins (both UAD

and Softube) that are installed on your system, and they will be pre-mapped for 
you. Just open them from within the Console 1 system and mix away”

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:48 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

The way the UAD software works wen last I used it, it installed all the UAD 
plug ins, and used your authorization file to see which one are authorized to 
your account. So even in Pro Tools, unless you sort through and hide the ones 
you do not have authorizations for you will have to scroll through a lot of 
plug ins to find the ones you want. When you load a plug in you don’t have an 
authorization for it will prompt you to purchase it or authorize a demo ( a 
process that is not accessible btw). I say that to say this. UAD has about 100 
plug ins in their arsenal alone, So even if the Console one hardware had the 
means of  allowing one to choose a plug in to load to a blank slot in the UAD 
console software, one would still have to cycle through a long list to select 
the plug in to load. And if the UAD console software still shows up as blank to 
VoiceOver, We still won’t be able to select plug ins since there will be no 
spoken feedback. I’d love to be proven wrong here and have this all be 
accessible, I still have plug ins collecting dust in my UAD account I’d like to 
use. But unless the UAD console  software is now visible to voiceover somewhat 
(which btw anyone who has a UAD Apollo and running the latest version of the 
software can answer) We are still in the same boat. 

 

On Nov 30, 2017, at 10:23 PM, Andre Jarreau mailto:andre.jarr...@earthlink.net> > wrote:

 

Very interesting.  it is my newbee understanding with the Console Mark II that 
after installation and and initialization all loaded plugins are recognized 
automatically and choosing which plugin is easily done.  

 

If I am correct the Apollo has a free software download that allows greater 
control by the Mark II.  So the Mark II can be handled by listening and turning 
knobs as you say.  I feel there is something to this 
controller-interface-software combination.  However I might be as right as 
wrong can be, dunno yet.  

 

Really looking forward to finding out what Slau and Nate will learn from their 
contacts who have tested the Mark II with VO.

 

Andre

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of TheOreoMonster
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 8:53 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

Yes the goal of the Console one (the hardware control surface) is so that 
engineers won’t have to look at the screen. However in the UAD Console (the 
software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) one 
would first need to use a mouse to select a blank plug in slot and load a plug 
into said slot. Once a plug in is loaded and selected,  One can use the Console 
one (hardware control surface) to  change the parameters in the loaded plug in. 
 Because they are adjusting the knobs from a hardware surface, they won’t have 
to look at the screen and can close their eyes and adjust until things sound 
right. Given that so far there is no VoiceOver support in the UAD Console 

(the software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) 
we still have to figure out a way to get the plug in loaded into a blank slot 
on a given channel , before we can start changing it’s parameters with the 
Console One (hardware control surface). This is why I don’t force the Console 
one (hardware control surface) changing the game as far as allowing us to use 
the UAD Console. In pro tools this won’t be an issue as  the pro tools mixer is 
accessible so we can load a plug in i

RE: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Andre Jarreau
I agree.  That is my understanding as well.

 

Andre 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Nathaniel Kile
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:57 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

Here is a little snip that I pulled up, it wasn’t exactly what I read 
yesterday, but gives the general idea.

“What do I Need to use UAD Plug-Ins With Console 1? 

Apart from the Console 1, you need a UAD Accelerator (Satellite or UAD-2 PCIe 
card) or an Apollo interface, and you need to own the Console 1 ready UAD

plug-in you want to use. With that in place, it's plug and play. The Console 1 
system will automatically identify the Console 1 ready plug-ins (both UAD

and Softube) that are installed on your system, and they will be pre-mapped for 
you. Just open them from within the Console 1 system and mix away”

 

 

 

Nate Kile,

Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 

Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
instruction for schools

Also Private training to your needs

907-444-3707

Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes:  
 www.yourtechvision.com 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
TheOreoMonster
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 6:48 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

The way the UAD software works wen last I used it, it installed all the UAD 
plug ins, and used your authorization file to see which one are authorized to 
your account. So even in Pro Tools, unless you sort through and hide the ones 
you do not have authorizations for you will have to scroll through a lot of 
plug ins to find the ones you want. When you load a plug in you don’t have an 
authorization for it will prompt you to purchase it or authorize a demo ( a 
process that is not accessible btw). I say that to say this. UAD has about 100 
plug ins in their arsenal alone, So even if the Console one hardware had the 
means of  allowing one to choose a plug in to load to a blank slot in the UAD 
console software, one would still have to cycle through a long list to select 
the plug in to load. And if the UAD console software still shows up as blank to 
VoiceOver, We still won’t be able to select plug ins since there will be no 
spoken feedback. I’d love to be proven wrong here and have this all be 
accessible, I still have plug ins collecting dust in my UAD account I’d like to 
use. But unless the UAD console  software is now visible to voiceover somewhat 
(which btw anyone who has a UAD Apollo and running the latest version of the 
software can answer) We are still in the same boat. 

 

On Nov 30, 2017, at 10:23 PM, Andre Jarreau  wrote:

 

Very interesting.  it is my newbee understanding with the Console Mark II that 
after installation and and initialization all loaded plugins are recognized 
automatically and choosing which plugin is easily done.  

 

If I am correct the Apollo has a free software download that allows greater 
control by the Mark II.  So the Mark II can be handled by listening and turning 
knobs as you say.  I feel there is something to this 
controller-interface-software combination.  However I might be as right as 
wrong can be, dunno yet.  

 

Really looking forward to finding out what Slau and Nate will learn from their 
contacts who have tested the Mark II with VO.

 

Andre

 

From:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ 
 mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of TheOreoMonster
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 8:53 PM
To:   ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
with soft tube controller

 

Yes the goal of the Console one (the hardware control surface) is so that 
engineers won’t have to look at the screen. However in the UAD Console (the 
software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) one 
would first need to use a mouse to select a blank plug in slot and load a plug 
into said slot. Once a plug in is loaded and selected,  One can use the Console 
one (hardware control surface) to  change the parameters in the loaded plug in. 
 Because they are adjusting the knobs from a hardware surface, they won’t have 
to look at the screen and can close their eyes and adjust until things sound 
right. Given that so far there is no VoiceOver support in the UAD Console 

(the software emulating a mixer interface for the UAD Apollo audio interface) 
we still have to figure out a way to get the plug in loaded into a blank slot 
on a given channel , before we can start changing it’s pa

Re: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility with soft tube controller

2017-11-30 Thread Brian Casey
Just to clarify I was expecting this to open up extra access to UA stuff via 
physical control of certain parameters, I'd very much doubt the soft tube 
console screen would reveal much with voice over as its cross platform and just 
soft tubes own proprietary thing. However judging from soft tube tape and 
saturation nob the company is doing something right for voice over access. 

Also apologies for the typos in the initial subject line, it was a late night 
find! 


Sent from my smart-ish phone!

> On 1/12/2017, at 12:22 AM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:
> 
> Dan Cooper's a friend. I'll give him a shout and look into it.
> Slau
> 
>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Nathaniel Kile  wrote:
>> 
>> I am considering trying to contact Pro Tools expert from youtube, he has 
>> reviewed it recently in conjunction with the Apollo. I will let you know 
>> what I hear back.
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> Nate Kile,
>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>> instruction for schools
>> Also Private training to your needs
>> 907-444-3707
>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>> www.yourtechvision.com
>>  
>>  
>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of CHUCK REICHEL
>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 12:22 PM
>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: For UA Apollo users: potentially huge increase in accessibility 
>> with soft tube controller
>>  
>> Hi Andre,
>> until some one gets there hand and 'ears" on it while using VoiceOver we 
>> won't know!
>> But if it does boy what a UaD breakthrough!
>> Has anybody given it a test ride yet?
>> Chuck
>> "God does not play dice with the universe"
>> "Albert Einstein’
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>> On Nov 30, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Andre Jarreau wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Interesting, I was told the Console One is made so audio engineers would 
>>> not have to look at the screen at all.
>>>  
>>> The unit also has control over all Apollo plugins.  It would seem if 
>>> changes were made to the Apollo interface One could dig into PT with VO and 
>>> find out what is going on.  That way the Console One screen would not be as 
>>> relevant.
>>> Andre
>>>  
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Nathaniel Kile
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 2:06 PM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in 
>>> accessibility with soft tube controller
>>>  
>>> From what I understand now, if one could use VO to read the values in the 
>>> Console 1 interface then you could change and load all of the related 
>>> parameters on the actual hardware unit.
>>>  
>>> Nate Kile,
>>> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision 
>>> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
>>> instruction for schools
>>> Also Private training to your needs
>>> 907-444-3707
>>> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC, Office 
>>> products, Mac, iPad/iTools and more, all done with keystrokes: 
>>> www.yourtechvision.com
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Frank Carmickle
>>> Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2017 9:19 AM
>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: For UA oppolo users: potentially huge increase in accessiblity 
>>> with soft tube controler
>>>  
>>> Hi folks,
>>>  
>>> I had an email exchange with softube's support about six months ago. At 
>>> that time they didn’t believe that there product would be accessible. I 
>>> tried to obtain a demo through them, which they declined. I suppose maybe 
>>> we could get some help in obtaining a demo from the Sweetwater crew? Let me 
>>> know where you end up with this please.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> --FC
 On Nov 28, 2017, at 2:40 PM, CHUCK REICHEL 
  wrote:
  
 Hi Nate,
 No not at this point! :(
 In PT all uad plugs are fine but the console is the rub!
  
 But if the console 1 shows up with  VO that may do the trick
 Chuck
 "God does not play dice with the universe"
 "Albert Einstein’
  
  
  
> On Nov 28, 2017, at 11:09 AM, Nathaniel Kile wrote:
>  
> 
> I have a question, can one see the UA console with Voice Over? I know 
> that you can not control it, but if one used the console 1, could they 
> see the changes with voice over? It is funny about the console 1, I was 
> just looking at it about 3 weeks ago and now it comes back up on the 
> radar.
>  
> Nate Kile,
> Assistive Technology Instructor, Tech Vision
> Specialist in Technology/Training/Teaching for blind/low vision/virtual 
> instruction for schools
> Also Private training to your needs
> 907-444-3707
> Website with hundreds of informational articles & lessons on PC,