Beginner questions.

2013-01-31 Thread James Malone
Hi there folks. I've recently started college doing a music
performance/production course, among other things. They use PT as
their main program, and I only learnt of its accessibility a couple
days ago. I guess firstly, I heard there was a tutorial or two that
someone did on PT. When I searched for it I discovered the link was
broken. If anyone has those are they able to chuck me a link?
Secondly, is PT practical for us blind folk yet? I understand this is
fairly new, so I thought I'd ask before taking the dive. I would
certainly be needing access to the midi area, along with possibly
plugins and access to some of the in built softsynths it has. (Though
I know that ones a bit of a hit and miss.)
Any help on this, anything at all would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
James

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Re: Beginner questions.

2013-01-31 Thread Poppa Bear
Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin Reves, 
he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. He also does 
pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is m...@kevinreeves.net
Do you know how to use voice over, the screen reader for the Mac? That is 
the biggest hurdle IMO to using Pro Tools. I have a PT set up on a Mac with 
a 002 mixer and I am able to use plugins, softsynths and perform most basic 
edit functions. I am still learning though, it is a different kind of beast 
than Sonar.

HTH
- Original Message - 
From: "James Malone" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:18 AM
Subject: Beginner questions.



Hi there folks. I've recently started college doing a music
performance/production course, among other things. They use PT as
their main program, and I only learnt of its accessibility a couple
days ago. I guess firstly, I heard there was a tutorial or two that
someone did on PT. When I searched for it I discovered the link was
broken. If anyone has those are they able to chuck me a link?
Secondly, is PT practical for us blind folk yet? I understand this is
fairly new, so I thought I'd ask before taking the dive. I would
certainly be needing access to the midi area, along with possibly
plugins and access to some of the in built softsynths it has. (Though
I know that ones a bit of a hit and miss.)
Any help on this, anything at all would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
James

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Re: Beginner questions.

2013-01-31 Thread Katie Zodrow
Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the early 
2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated from Berklee 
in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument and vocal parts for 
my production projects or I used it for completing assignments for 
Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm not that familiar with 
Sonar with recording digital audio because I only did MIDI recording with 
Cakewalk/Sonar.

Katie
- Original Message - 
From: "Poppa Bear" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin Reves, 
he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. He also 
does pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is m...@kevinreeves.net
Do you know how to use voice over, the screen reader for the Mac? That is 
the biggest hurdle IMO to using Pro Tools. I have a PT set up on a Mac 
with a 002 mixer and I am able to use plugins, softsynths and perform most 
basic edit functions. I am still learning though, it is a different kind 
of beast than Sonar.

HTH
- Original Message - 
From: "James Malone" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:18 AM
Subject: Beginner questions.



Hi there folks. I've recently started college doing a music
performance/production course, among other things. They use PT as
their main program, and I only learnt of its accessibility a couple
days ago. I guess firstly, I heard there was a tutorial or two that
someone did on PT. When I searched for it I discovered the link was
broken. If anyone has those are they able to chuck me a link?
Secondly, is PT practical for us blind folk yet? I understand this is
fairly new, so I thought I'd ask before taking the dive. I would
certainly be needing access to the midi area, along with possibly
plugins and access to some of the in built softsynths it has. (Though
I know that ones a bit of a hit and miss.)
Any help on this, anything at all would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
James

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Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-01 Thread Poppa Bear
So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I use 
Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up for my 
recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool spicific 
clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their stuff 
recorded no matter the set up as long as you know what you are doing. So now 
I have both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and find it to be 
more flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to learn, the thing is 
though, with PT on the Mac you are for the most part getting a recording 
system that goes hand and glove with the Mac platform, and whether people 
like it or not, Pro Tools is industry standard. With a PC you have so many 
3rd party programmer variables that it can become dawnting to get a good set 
up that performs well. I would say this as you get back into the music, most 
people end up getting the Pro Tools bug so if your at the gate and wondering 
where to start then you might be better off just jumping into Pro Tools so 
your not like many who start off in Sonar always wondering if they should 
start learning pro tools.

HTH
- Original Message - 
From: "Katie Zodrow" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the 
early 2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated from 
Berklee in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument and vocal 
parts for my production projects or I used it for completing assignments 
for Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm not that 
familiar with Sonar with recording digital audio because I only did MIDI 
recording with Cakewalk/Sonar.

Katie
- Original Message - 
From: "Poppa Bear" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin 
Reves, he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. He 
also does pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is 
m...@kevinreeves.net
Do you know how to use voice over, the screen reader for the Mac? That is 
the biggest hurdle IMO to using Pro Tools. I have a PT set up on a Mac 
with a 002 mixer and I am able to use plugins, softsynths and perform 
most basic edit functions. I am still learning though, it is a different 
kind of beast than Sonar.

HTH
- Original Message - 
From: "James Malone" 

To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:18 AM
Subject: Beginner questions.



Hi there folks. I've recently started college doing a music
performance/production course, among other things. They use PT as
their main program, and I only learnt of its accessibility a couple
days ago. I guess firstly, I heard there was a tutorial or two that
someone did on PT. When I searched for it I discovered the link was
broken. If anyone has those are they able to chuck me a link?
Secondly, is PT practical for us blind folk yet? I understand this is
fairly new, so I thought I'd ask before taking the dive. I would
certainly be needing access to the midi area, along with possibly
plugins and access to some of the in built softsynths it has. (Though
I know that ones a bit of a hit and miss.)
Any help on this, anything at all would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
James

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Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-01 Thread byron harden
hello all my name is byron.
i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools from an 
accessibility point of view. training class via skype.

if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest that you 
get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.

the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are related to 
the mac.

that is in a great way.
these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, lol


i have been engineering for about 15 years.
i started with analog as a low vision person.
i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  a closer 
to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the music biz.

pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that you choose 
to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really pationnet about it.

as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.

On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:

> So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I use 
> Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up for my 
> recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool spicific 
> clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their stuff recorded 
> no matter the set up as long as you know what you are doing. So now I have 
> both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and find it to be more 
> flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to learn, the thing is though, 
> with PT on the Mac you are for the most part getting a recording system that 
> goes hand and glove with the Mac platform, and whether people like it or not, 
> Pro Tools is industry standard. With a PC you have so many 3rd party 
> programmer variables that it can become dawnting to get a good set up that 
> performs well. I would say this as you get back into the music, most people 
> end up getting the Pro Tools bug so if your at the gate and wondering where 
> to start then you might be better off just jumping into Pro Tools so your not 
> like many who start off in Sonar always wondering if they should start 
> learning pro tools.
> HTH
> - Original Message - From: "Katie Zodrow" 
> To: 
> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
> 
> 
>> Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the early 
>> 2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated from Berklee 
>> in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument and vocal parts for 
>> my production projects or I used it for completing assignments for 
>> Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm not that familiar with 
>> Sonar with recording digital audio because I only did MIDI recording with 
>> Cakewalk/Sonar.
>> Katie
>> - Original Message - From: "Poppa Bear" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>> 
>> 
>>> Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin Reves, 
>>> he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. He also does 
>>> pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is m...@kevinreeves.net
>>> Do you know how to use voice over, the screen reader for the Mac? That is 
>>> the biggest hurdle IMO to using Pro Tools. I have a PT set up on a Mac with 
>>> a 002 mixer and I am able to use plugins, softsynths and perform most basic 
>>> edit functions. I am still learning though, it is a different kind of beast 
>>> than Sonar.
>>> HTH
>>> - Original Message - From: "James Malone" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:18 AM
>>> Subject: Beginner questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi there folks. I've recently started college doing a music
>>>> performance/production course, among other things. They use PT as
>>>> their main program, and I only learnt of its accessibility a couple
>>>> days ago. I guess firstly, I heard there was a tutorial or two that
>>>> someone did on PT. When I searched for it I discovered the link was
>>>> broken. If anyone has those are they able to chuck me a link?
>>>> Secondly, is PT practical for us blind folk yet? I understand this is
>>>> fairly new, so I thought I'd ask before taking the dive. I would
>>>> certainly be needing access to the midi area, along with possibly
>>>> plugins and access to some of the in built softsynths it has. (

Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-01 Thread Slau Halatyn
Welcome, Byron. Glad you made it onto the list :)

Cheers,

Slau

On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, byron harden wrote:

> hello all my name is byron.
> i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
> i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools from an 
> accessibility point of view. training class via skype.
> 
> if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest that you 
> get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.
> 
> the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are related 
> to the mac.
> 
> that is in a great way.
> these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, lol
> 
> 
> i have been engineering for about 15 years.
> i started with analog as a low vision person.
> i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
> the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  a 
> closer to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the music 
> biz.
> 
> pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that you choose 
> to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really pationnet about it.
> 
> as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
> 
>> So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I use 
>> Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up for my 
>> recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool spicific 
>> clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their stuff 
>> recorded no matter the set up as long as you know what you are doing. So now 
>> I have both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and find it to be 
>> more flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to learn, the thing is 
>> though, with PT on the Mac you are for the most part getting a recording 
>> system that goes hand and glove with the Mac platform, and whether people 
>> like it or not, Pro Tools is industry standard. With a PC you have so many 
>> 3rd party programmer variables that it can become dawnting to get a good set 
>> up that performs well. I would say this as you get back into the music, most 
>> people end up getting the Pro Tools bug so if your at the gate and wondering 
>> where to start then you might be better off just jumping into Pro Tools so 
>> your not like many who start off in Sonar always wondering if they should 
>> start learning pro tools.
>> HTH
>> - Original Message - From: "Katie Zodrow" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:00 PM
>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the early 
>>> 2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated from Berklee 
>>> in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument and vocal parts for 
>>> my production projects or I used it for completing assignments for 
>>> Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm not that familiar 
>>> with Sonar with recording digital audio because I only did MIDI recording 
>>> with Cakewalk/Sonar.
>>> Katie
>>> - Original Message - From: "Poppa Bear" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:42 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin Reves, 
>>>> he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. He also 
>>>> does pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is 
>>>> m...@kevinreeves.net
>>>> Do you know how to use voice over, the screen reader for the Mac? That is 
>>>> the biggest hurdle IMO to using Pro Tools. I have a PT set up on a Mac 
>>>> with a 002 mixer and I am able to use plugins, softsynths and perform most 
>>>> basic edit functions. I am still learning though, it is a different kind 
>>>> of beast than Sonar.
>>>> HTH
>>>> - Original Message - From: "James Malone" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:18 AM
>>>> Subject: Beginner questions.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi there folks. I've recently started college doing a music
>>>>> performance/production course, among other things. They use PT as
>>>>> their main program, and I only learnt of its accessibility a couple
>>>>> days ago. I guess firstly, I heard there was a tutorial or two tha

Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-01 Thread Poppa Bear
Nice to meet you as well Byron. My name is Nate Kile, AKA Poppa Bear.  What 
part of the world are you in? I am in the US, up North in Alaska. I typicaly 
record Gospel, positive hip-hop and some rock here and there.
- Original Message - 
From: "Slau Halatyn" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Welcome, Byron. Glad you made it onto the list :)

Cheers,

Slau

On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, byron harden wrote:


hello all my name is byron.
i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools from an 
accessibility point of view. training class via skype.


if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest that 
you get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.


the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are 
related to the mac.


that is in a great way.
these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, lol


i have been engineering for about 15 years.
i started with analog as a low vision person.
i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  a 
closer to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the 
music biz.


pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that you 
choose to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really pationnet 
about it.


as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.

On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:

So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I use 
Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up for my 
recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool spicific 
clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their stuff 
recorded no matter the set up as long as you know what you are doing. So 
now I have both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and find it to 
be more flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to learn, the thing 
is though, with PT on the Mac you are for the most part getting a 
recording system that goes hand and glove with the Mac platform, and 
whether people like it or not, Pro Tools is industry standard. With a PC 
you have so many 3rd party programmer variables that it can become 
dawnting to get a good set up that performs well. I would say this as you 
get back into the music, most people end up getting the Pro Tools bug so 
if your at the gate and wondering where to start then you might be better 
off just jumping into Pro Tools so your not like many who start off in 
Sonar always wondering if they should start learning pro tools.

HTH
- Original Message - From: "Katie Zodrow" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the 
early 2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated 
from Berklee in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument and 
vocal parts for my production projects or I used it for completing 
assignments for Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm 
not that familiar with Sonar with recording digital audio because I only 
did MIDI recording with Cakewalk/Sonar.

Katie
- Original Message - From: "Poppa Bear" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin 
Reves, he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. 
He also does pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is 
m...@kevinreeves.net
Do you know how to use voice over, the screen reader for the Mac? That 
is the biggest hurdle IMO to using Pro Tools. I have a PT set up on a 
Mac with a 002 mixer and I am able to use plugins, softsynths and 
perform most basic edit functions. I am still learning though, it is a 
different kind of beast than Sonar.

HTH
- Original Message - From: "James Malone" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:18 AM
Subject: Beginner questions.



Hi there folks. I've recently started college doing a music
performance/production course, among other things. They use PT as
their main program, and I only learnt of its accessibility a couple
days ago. I guess firstly, I heard there was a tutorial or two that
someone did on PT. When I searched for it I discovered the link was
broken. If anyone has those are they able to chuck me a link?
Secondly, is PT practical for us blind folk yet? I understand this is
fairly new, so I thought I'd ask before taking the dive. I would
certainly be needing access to the midi area, along with possibly
plugins and access to some of the in built softsynths it has. (Though
I know that ones a bit of a hit and miss.)
Any help on this, anything at all would be greatly appreciated.

Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-01 Thread byron harden
hello sir.

i am located in Chicago illinois.

man i thought it was cold here, i bet its way colder there.
 i look forward to speaking with you papa bear.

On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:

> Nice to meet you as well Byron. My name is Nate Kile, AKA Poppa Bear.  What 
> part of the world are you in? I am in the US, up North in Alaska. I typicaly 
> record Gospel, positive hip-hop and some rock here and there.
> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
> 
> 
> Welcome, Byron. Glad you made it onto the list :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, byron harden wrote:
> 
>> hello all my name is byron.
>> i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
>> i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools from an 
>> accessibility point of view. training class via skype.
>> 
>> if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest that 
>> you get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.
>> 
>> the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are related 
>> to the mac.
>> 
>> that is in a great way.
>> these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, lol
>> 
>> 
>> i have been engineering for about 15 years.
>> i started with analog as a low vision person.
>> i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
>> the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  a 
>> closer to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the music 
>> biz.
>> 
>> pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that you 
>> choose to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really pationnet 
>> about it.
>> 
>> as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
>> 
>>> So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I use 
>>> Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up for my 
>>> recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool spicific 
>>> clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their stuff 
>>> recorded no matter the set up as long as you know what you are doing. So 
>>> now I have both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and find it to 
>>> be more flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to learn, the thing is 
>>> though, with PT on the Mac you are for the most part getting a recording 
>>> system that goes hand and glove with the Mac platform, and whether people 
>>> like it or not, Pro Tools is industry standard. With a PC you have so many 
>>> 3rd party programmer variables that it can become dawnting to get a good 
>>> set up that performs well. I would say this as you get back into the music, 
>>> most people end up getting the Pro Tools bug so if your at the gate and 
>>> wondering where to start then you might be better off just jumping into Pro 
>>> Tools so your not like many who start off in Sonar always wondering if they 
>>> should start learning pro tools.
>>> HTH
>>> - Original Message - From: "Katie Zodrow" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the 
>>>> early 2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated from 
>>>> Berklee in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument and vocal 
>>>> parts for my production projects or I used it for completing assignments 
>>>> for Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm not that 
>>>> familiar with Sonar with recording digital audio because I only did MIDI 
>>>> recording with Cakewalk/Sonar.
>>>> Katie
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Poppa Bear" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin 
>>>>> Reves, he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. He 
>>>>> also does pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is 
>>>>> m...@kevinreeves.net
>>>>> Do you know how to use voice over, the sc

Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-01 Thread byron harden
thank you kind sir, 


On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:22 PM, Slau Halatyn  wrote:

> Welcome, Byron. Glad you made it onto the list :)
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Slau
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, byron harden wrote:
> 
>> hello all my name is byron.
>> i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
>> i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools from an 
>> accessibility point of view. training class via skype.
>> 
>> if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest that 
>> you get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.
>> 
>> the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are related 
>> to the mac.
>> 
>> that is in a great way.
>> these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, lol
>> 
>> 
>> i have been engineering for about 15 years.
>> i started with analog as a low vision person.
>> i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
>> the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  a 
>> closer to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the music 
>> biz.
>> 
>> pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that you 
>> choose to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really passionate 
>> about it.
>> 
>> as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
>> 
>>> So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I use 
>>> Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up for my 
>>> recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool spicific 
>>> clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their stuff 
>>> recorded no matter the set up as long as you know what you are doing. So 
>>> now I have both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and find it to 
>>> be more flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to learn, the thing is 
>>> though, with PT on the Mac you are for the most part getting a recording 
>>> system that goes hand and glove with the Mac platform, and whether people 
>>> like it or not, Pro Tools is industry standard. With a PC you have so many 
>>> 3rd party programmer variables that it can become dawnting to get a good 
>>> set up that performs well. I would say this as you get back into the music, 
>>> most people end up getting the Pro Tools bug so if your at the gate and 
>>> wondering where to start then you might be better off just jumping into Pro 
>>> Tools so your not like many who start off in Sonar always wondering if they 
>>> should start learning pro tools.
>>> HTH
>>> - Original Message - From: "Katie Zodrow" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:00 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the 
>>>> early 2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated from 
>>>> Berklee in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument and vocal 
>>>> parts for my production projects or I used it for completing assignments 
>>>> for Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm not that 
>>>> familiar with Sonar with recording digital audio because I only did MIDI 
>>>> recording with Cakewalk/Sonar.
>>>> Katie
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Poppa Bear" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:42 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin 
>>>>> Reves, he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. He 
>>>>> also does pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is 
>>>>> m...@kevinreeves.net
>>>>> Do you know how to use voice over, the screen reader for the Mac? That is 
>>>>> the biggest hurdle IMO to using Pro Tools. I have a PT set up on a Mac 
>>>>> with a 002 mixer and I am able to use plugins, softsynths and perform 
>>>>> most basic edit functions. I am still learning though, it is a different 
>>>>> kind of beast than Sonar.
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> - Original Message - From: "James Malone" 
>>>>> To: 
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013

Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-01 Thread Poppa Bear

Yep, it's def cold here. It's been hanging around -0
- Original Message - 
From: "byron harden" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


hello sir.

i am located in Chicago illinois.

man i thought it was cold here, i bet its way colder there.
i look forward to speaking with you papa bear.

On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:

Nice to meet you as well Byron. My name is Nate Kile, AKA Poppa Bear. 
What part of the world are you in? I am in the US, up North in Alaska. I 
typicaly record Gospel, positive hip-hop and some rock here and there.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Welcome, Byron. Glad you made it onto the list :)

Cheers,

Slau

On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, byron harden wrote:


hello all my name is byron.
i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools from an 
accessibility point of view. training class via skype.


if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest that 
you get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.


the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are 
related to the mac.


that is in a great way.
these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, lol


i have been engineering for about 15 years.
i started with analog as a low vision person.
i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  a 
closer to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the 
music biz.


pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that you 
choose to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really pationnet 
about it.


as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.

On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:

So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I 
use Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up 
for my recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool 
spicific clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their 
stuff recorded no matter the set up as long as you know what you are 
doing. So now I have both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and 
find it to be more flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to learn, 
the thing is though, with PT on the Mac you are for the most part 
getting a recording system that goes hand and glove with the Mac 
platform, and whether people like it or not, Pro Tools is industry 
standard. With a PC you have so many 3rd party programmer variables that 
it can become dawnting to get a good set up that performs well. I would 
say this as you get back into the music, most people end up getting the 
Pro Tools bug so if your at the gate and wondering where to start then 
you might be better off just jumping into Pro Tools so your not like 
many who start off in Sonar always wondering if they should start 
learning pro tools.

HTH
- Original Message - From: "Katie Zodrow" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the 
early 2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated 
from Berklee in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument and 
vocal parts for my production projects or I used it for completing 
assignments for Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm 
not that familiar with Sonar with recording digital audio because I 
only did MIDI recording with Cakewalk/Sonar.

Katie
- Original Message ----- From: "Poppa Bear" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin 
Reves, he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. 
He also does pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is 
m...@kevinreeves.net
Do you know how to use voice over, the screen reader for the Mac? That 
is the biggest hurdle IMO to using Pro Tools. I have a PT set up on a 
Mac with a 002 mixer and I am able to use plugins, softsynths and 
perform most basic edit functions. I am still learning though, it is a 
different kind of beast than Sonar.

HTH
- Original Message - From: "James Malone" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 11:18 AM
Subject: Beginner questions.



Hi there folks. I've recently started college doing a music
performance/production course, among other things. They use PT as
their main program, and I only learnt of its accessibility a couple
days ago. I guess firstly, I heard there was a tutorial or two that
someone did on PT. When I searched for it I discovered the link was
broken. If anyone has

Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-01 Thread byron harden
i hear you bro.

how long have you been using pro tools?

On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:48 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:

> Yep, it's def cold here. It's been hanging around -0
> - Original Message - From: "byron harden" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:39 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
> 
> 
> hello sir.
> 
> i am located in Chicago illinois.
> 
> man i thought it was cold here, i bet its way colder there.
> i look forward to speaking with you papa bear.
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
> 
>> Nice to meet you as well Byron. My name is Nate Kile, AKA Poppa Bear. What 
>> part of the world are you in? I am in the US, up North in Alaska. I typicaly 
>> record Gospel, positive hip-hop and some rock here and there.
>> - Original Message ----- From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:22 AM
>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>> 
>> 
>> Welcome, Byron. Glad you made it onto the list :)
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Slau
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, byron harden wrote:
>> 
>>> hello all my name is byron.
>>> i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
>>> i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools from an 
>>> accessibility point of view. training class via skype.
>>> 
>>> if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest that 
>>> you get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.
>>> 
>>> the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are related 
>>> to the mac.
>>> 
>>> that is in a great way.
>>> these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, lol
>>> 
>>> 
>>> i have been engineering for about 15 years.
>>> i started with analog as a low vision person.
>>> i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
>>> the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  a 
>>> closer to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the 
>>> music biz.
>>> 
>>> pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that you 
>>> choose to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really pationnet 
>>> about it.
>>> 
>>> as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I use 
>>>> Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up for my 
>>>> recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool spicific 
>>>> clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their stuff 
>>>> recorded no matter the set up as long as you know what you are doing. So 
>>>> now I have both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and find it to 
>>>> be more flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to learn, the thing is 
>>>> though, with PT on the Mac you are for the most part getting a recording 
>>>> system that goes hand and glove with the Mac platform, and whether people 
>>>> like it or not, Pro Tools is industry standard. With a PC you have so many 
>>>> 3rd party programmer variables that it can become dawnting to get a good 
>>>> set up that performs well. I would say this as you get back into the 
>>>> music, most people end up getting the Pro Tools bug so if your at the gate 
>>>> and wondering where to start then you might be better off just jumping 
>>>> into Pro Tools so your not like many who start off in Sonar always 
>>>> wondering if they should start learning pro tools.
>>>> HTH
>>>> - Original Message - From: "Katie Zodrow" 
>>>> To: 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:00 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the 
>>>>> early 2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated from 
>>>>> Berklee in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument and vocal 
>>>>> parts for my production projects or I used it for completing assignments 
>>>>> for Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm not that 
>>>>> familiar with Sonar with recording digital audio becaus

Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-01 Thread Poppa Bear
I'v had it about a year now. I used it for about 2 months then I went back 
to Sonar and then in the last two weeks I've been reviewing Pro Tools again. 
Do you have any equipment now? What style are you recording?
- Original Message - 
From: "byron harden" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


i hear you bro.

how long have you been using pro tools?

On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:48 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:


Yep, it's def cold here. It's been hanging around -0
- Original Message - From: "byron harden" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:39 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


hello sir.

i am located in Chicago illinois.

man i thought it was cold here, i bet its way colder there.
i look forward to speaking with you papa bear.

On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:

Nice to meet you as well Byron. My name is Nate Kile, AKA Poppa Bear. 
What part of the world are you in? I am in the US, up North in Alaska. I 
typicaly record Gospel, positive hip-hop and some rock here and there.

- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Welcome, Byron. Glad you made it onto the list :)

Cheers,

Slau

On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, byron harden wrote:


hello all my name is byron.
i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools from 
an accessibility point of view. training class via skype.


if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest 
that you get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.


the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are 
related to the mac.


that is in a great way.
these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, lol


i have been engineering for about 15 years.
i started with analog as a low vision person.
i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  a 
closer to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the 
music biz.


pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that you 
choose to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really pationnet 
about it.


as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.

On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  
wrote:


So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I 
use Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up 
for my recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool 
spicific clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their 
stuff recorded no matter the set up as long as you know what you are 
doing. So now I have both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar 
and find it to be more flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to 
learn, the thing is though, with PT on the Mac you are for the most 
part getting a recording system that goes hand and glove with the Mac 
platform, and whether people like it or not, Pro Tools is industry 
standard. With a PC you have so many 3rd party programmer variables 
that it can become dawnting to get a good set up that performs well. I 
would say this as you get back into the music, most people end up 
getting the Pro Tools bug so if your at the gate and wondering where to 
start then you might be better off just jumping into Pro Tools so your 
not like many who start off in Sonar always wondering if they should 
start learning pro tools.

HTH
- Original Message - From: "Katie Zodrow" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Hi, Nate. I've used Sonar when it was Cakewalk in the past during the 
early 2000's. I think I used Cakewalk version 9 up until I graduated 
from Berklee in 2004. I mostly used Cakewalk for writing instrument 
and vocal parts for my production projects or I used it for completing 
assignments for Traditional Harmony and other classes in college. I'm 
not that familiar with Sonar with recording digital audio because I 
only did MIDI recording with Cakewalk/Sonar.

Katie
----- Original Message - From: "Poppa Bear" 


To: 
Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2013 2:42 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Yes, PT is accessible and the person who did those lessons is Kevin 
Reves, he goes back and forth from this list and the PT access group. 
He also does pro tools lessons via skype or phone. His email is 
m...@kevinreeves.net
Do you know how to use voice over, the screen reader for the Mac? 
That is the biggest hurdle IMO to using Pro Tools. I have a PT set up 
on a Mac with a 002 mixer and I am able to use plugins, softsynths 
and perform most basic edit functions. I am still learning though, it 
is a different kind of beast than Sonar.

HTH
----- Ori

Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-02 Thread byron harden
yes i have a studio.
as far as rack gear goes.
i have out board pre, amps.
a decent mic selection.
a couple of ensonic samplers and keyboards.

also i have basses, drum sets, and guitars.

i just got the hdx with a c-24 control surface.
i lost my sight in the summer of 2011, and this was the second time i had lost 
my eye sight.
but this time is permeant.
so i had to get something that was a work horse.

i am a producer engineer, and player who does what ever it takes to make a 
dollar musically.
i also play bass in my band call blah blah blah,
our style of music is kind of like the smiths.
 
you can check us out at blahblahblahmusic.com
On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:

> I'v had it about a year now. I used it for about 2 months then I went back to 
> Sonar and then in the last two weeks I've been reviewing Pro Tools again. Do 
> you have any equipment now? What style are you recording?
> - Original Message - From: "byron harden" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 6:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
> 
> 
> i hear you bro.
> 
> how long have you been using pro tools?
> 
> On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:48 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
> 
>> Yep, it's def cold here. It's been hanging around -0
>> - Original Message - From: "byron harden" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>> 
>> 
>> hello sir.
>> 
>> i am located in Chicago illinois.
>> 
>> man i thought it was cold here, i bet its way colder there.
>> i look forward to speaking with you papa bear.
>> 
>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
>> 
>>> Nice to meet you as well Byron. My name is Nate Kile, AKA Poppa Bear. What 
>>> part of the world are you in? I am in the US, up North in Alaska. I 
>>> typicaly record Gospel, positive hip-hop and some rock here and there.
>>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 
>>> To: 
>>> Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:22 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Beginner questions.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Welcome, Byron. Glad you made it onto the list :)
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Slau
>>> 
>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, byron harden wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hello all my name is byron.
>>>> i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
>>>> i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools from an 
>>>> accessibility point of view. training class via skype.
>>>> 
>>>> if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest that 
>>>> you get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.
>>>> 
>>>> the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are 
>>>> related to the mac.
>>>> 
>>>> that is in a great way.
>>>> these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, lol
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> i have been engineering for about 15 years.
>>>> i started with analog as a low vision person.
>>>> i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
>>>> the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  a 
>>>> closer to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the 
>>>> music biz.
>>>> 
>>>> pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that you 
>>>> choose to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really pationnet 
>>>> about it.
>>>> 
>>>> as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. I use 
>>>>> Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up for my 
>>>>> recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool spicific 
>>>>> clients, but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their stuff 
>>>>> recorded no matter the set up as long as you know what you are doing. So 
>>>>> now I have both PT and Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and find it to 
>>>>> be more flexable than Pro Tools and a little easier to learn, the thing 
>>>>> is though, with PT on the Mac you are for the most part getting a 
>>>>> recording system that goes hand and glove with the Mac platform, and 
>>>&g

Re: Beginner questions.

2013-02-03 Thread Poppa Bear
Bro, I am sorry to hear about you losing your sight so recently. I hope you 
keep pushing on. Sounds like you got a good set up. I will be checking out your 
band tomorrow when I get a few minutes. 
  - Original Message - 
  From: byron harden 
  To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2013 10:21 PM
  Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


  yes i have a studio.
  as far as rack gear goes.
  i have out board pre, amps.
  a decent mic selection.
  a couple of ensonic samplers and keyboards.


  also i have basses, drum sets, and guitars.


  i just got the hdx with a c-24 control surface.
  i lost my sight in the summer of 2011, and this was the second time i had 
lost my eye sight.
  but this time is permeant.
  so i had to get something that was a work horse.


  i am a producer engineer, and player who does what ever it takes to make a 
dollar musically.
  i also play bass in my band call blah blah blah,
  our style of music is kind of like the smiths.

  you can check us out at blahblahblahmusic.com
  On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:27 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:


I'v had it about a year now. I used it for about 2 months then I went back 
to Sonar and then in the last two weeks I've been reviewing Pro Tools again. Do 
you have any equipment now? What style are you recording?
- Original Message - From: "byron harden" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 6:12 PM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


i hear you bro.

how long have you been using pro tools?

On Feb 1, 2013, at 8:48 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:


  Yep, it's def cold here. It's been hanging around -0
  - Original Message - From: "byron harden" 
  To: 
  Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 5:39 PM
  Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


  hello sir.

  i am located in Chicago illinois.

  man i thought it was cold here, i bet its way colder there.
  i look forward to speaking with you papa bear.

  On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:35 PM, "Poppa Bear"  wrote:


Nice to meet you as well Byron. My name is Nate Kile, AKA Poppa Bear. 
What part of the world are you in? I am in the US, up North in Alaska. I 
typicaly record Gospel, positive hip-hop and some rock here and there.
- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" 

    To: 
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: Beginner questions.


Welcome, Byron. Glad you made it onto the list :)

Cheers,

Slau

On Feb 1, 2013, at 1:39 PM, byron harden wrote:


  hello all my name is byron.
  i am a bran new blind  pro tools user.
  i have been taking Kevin reeves's  getting started with pro tools 
from an accessibility point of view. training class via skype.

  if you are just starting with a mac computer, i would really suggest 
that you get good with voice over first, than jump in with pro tools.

  the reason i say that is because so many functions in pro tools are 
related to the mac.

  that is in a great way.
  these two things go hand and hand, when everything is going right,,, 
lol


  i have been engineering for about 15 years.
  i started with analog as a low vision person.
  i moved in to the digital world 2 years after my start.
  the great thing about a blind person using pro tools is, it provides  
a closer to even playing field for us in relationship to the rest of the music 
biz.

  pro tools, voice over, and any other DAWS , or screen readers that 
you choose to use,will not take long  to learn, if you are really pationnet 
about it.

  as well as this list is an awesome resource for us.

  On Feb 1, 2013, at 11:04 AM, "Poppa Bear"  
wrote:


So Katie, I do think I remember your introduction about a week ago. 
I use Sonar the majority of the time, but I picked up a Pro Tools set up for my 
recording studio because I thought I would have more pro tool spicific clients, 
but it didn't turn out that way. Many just want their stuff recorded no matter 
the set up as long as you know what you are doing. So now I have both PT and 
Sonar. I am much quicker with Sonar and find it to be more flexable than Pro 
Tools and a little easier to learn, the thing is though, with PT on the Mac you 
are for the most part getting a recording system that goes hand and glove with 
the Mac platform, and whether people like it or not, Pro Tools is industry 
standard. With a PC you have so many 3rd party programmer variables that it can 
become dawnting to get a good set up that performs well. I would say this as 
you get back into the music, most people end up getting the Pro Tools bug so if 
your at the gate and wondering where to start then you might be better off just 
jumping into Pro Tools so your not like many w