Re: Clips to timeline in Sierra

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Peter,

The first thing I'd look at is whether the clip you're selecting isn't beyond 
the bottom of the visible scroll area of the Clips List. The list will display 
roughly 80 items before you need to scroll down and, as we all know, VoiceOver 
is capable of reading things beyond the visible boundary. That's the first 
thing. Second, what's most likely happening if the prior scenario isn't the 
case, is that the Clips List is too narrow. Its default width is 86 points. 
when the mouse pointer follows the VoiceOver cursor, it becomes centered within 
the VoiceOver cursor and, when the table is too narrow, the mouse pointer 
actually ends up being outside the table, just to the right. Sometimes you'll 
hear VoiceOver say  it's clicking on the desktop or Dock upon issuing a click.

Now, let me say that the upcoming release of Flo Tools does address this issue 
and makes it very easy to drag clips from the Clips List to a track. We're just 
dotting the Ies and crossing the tees and it should be up any day. In the mean 
time, you can read through the text file in the PT Access Drop Box about how to 
resize the Track List and Clips List. You'll need Flo Tools to do things like 
move the mouse pointer to a specific coordinate and move the pointer while 
dragging. You'll have to follow the steps precisely but you'll be able to 
resize the Clips List within a session and that should help you drag clips the 
old-fashioned way according to that demo I did a while ago. This whole process 
of resizing the Track List and Clips List is simplified in the upcoming Flo 
Tools release as well.

Finally, I have to say, when you import a file into a new track, the clip does, 
in fact, end up in your Clips List and there should be no issues editing it. As 
long as your track view is set to Waveform, you should be able to edit the 
clip, providing things like Link Edit and timeline and Edit Selection Follows 
Track selection are checked, etc.

Hopefully this will help until Flo Tools 2.2 is out.

Cheers,
Slau

> On Jun 13, 2017, at 5:44 AM, Peter Bosher  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> Since running Sierra, I'm no longer able to get clips from the clips list 
> onto the timeline, using the methods in Slau's tutorial.
> 
> 
> Having selected one or more clips, when I do a mouse-down, VO speaks 'Now in 
> mix ...".  and focus has indeed jumped to the mix window.  On rare occasions 
> when it has said 'mouse down on edit', when I then go to the tracklist table 
> and do a mouse-up, it says 'mouse up on Apple', and there is no new track.
> 
> 
> This is a total show-stopper for me as I constantly have to import files.   
> Firstly, can anyone suggest what I might try, and secondly, is there any 
> chance that FloTools might address this long-standing difficulty.   I'm so 
> tempted right now to go back to Sonar for certain tasks where this was a 
> cinch ... but seriously, there has to be a reliable way to get files in.  
> Even when I used to import them as new tracks, I found that they couldn't be 
> edited normally if they weren't in the clips list, so what to do?
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
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RE: Clips to timeline in Sierra

[Martin (Punky) Sopart]

Hi Peter!

Did you check the mouse tracking setting in the VO utility?
Maybe it's off by default in Sierra.
Just try VO+Command+F5 before executing any mouse clicks etc.

Good luck! / Martin
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> Subject: Clips to timeline in Sierra
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
> Since running Sierra, I'm no longer able to get clips from the clips
> list onto the timeline, using the methods in Slau's tutorial.
> 
> 
> Having selected one or more clips, when I do a mouse-down, VO speaks
> 'Now in mix ...".  and focus has indeed jumped to the mix window.  On
> rare occasions when it has said 'mouse down on edit', when I then go to
> the tracklist table and do a mouse-up, it says 'mouse up on Apple', and
> there is no new track.
> 
> 
> This is a total show-stopper for me as I constantly have to import
> files.   Firstly, can anyone suggest what I might try, and secondly, is
> there any chance that FloTools might address this long-standing
> difficulty.   I'm so tempted right now to go back to Sonar for certain
> tasks where this was a cinch ... but seriously, there has to be a
> reliable way to get files in.  Even when I used to import them as new
> tracks, I found that they couldn't be edited normally if they weren't in
> the clips list, so what to do?
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
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Clips to timeline in Sierra

[Peter Bosher]

Hi All,


Since running Sierra, I'm no longer able to get clips from the clips 
list onto the timeline, using the methods in Slau's tutorial.



Having selected one or more clips, when I do a mouse-down, VO speaks 
'Now in mix ...".  and focus has indeed jumped to the mix window.  On 
rare occasions when it has said 'mouse down on edit', when I then go to 
the tracklist table and do a mouse-up, it says 'mouse up on Apple', and 
there is no new track.



This is a total show-stopper for me as I constantly have to import 
files.   Firstly, can anyone suggest what I might try, and secondly, is 
there any chance that FloTools might address this long-standing 
difficulty.   I'm so tempted right now to go back to Sonar for certain 
tasks where this was a cinch ... but seriously, there has to be a 
reliable way to get files in.  Even when I used to import them as new 
tracks, I found that they couldn't be edited normally if they weren't in 
the clips list, so what to do?



Best,


Peter


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