Re: A question about bouncing
Digidesign used to have a product called MasterListCD which I used to use for disc mastering but they ditched the product to many people's dismay. There was rumor that it was going to be incorporated into Pro Tools but that's around the time when Avid took over and I think it just got lost in the shuffle. Just useless information I'm sharing here. Slau On Nov 11, 2015, at 1:07 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote: > FYI, off the top of my head I think everything that'd be required to > generate DDP in Reaper should be usable on the Mac side. You'll need > to read the relevant section of the help file, probably a few times, > and will absolutely need to varify that what you've created works > before delivering to the pressing plant as Reaper hasn't made DDP > generation easy or pleasant yet. There's plenty of tiny details that > are likely to be beyond the less geeky humanoid. It does work though. > > Scott > > On 11/11/15, Chris Smart wrote: >> At 12:15 AM 11/11/2015, you wrote: >>> >>> So then, if we can't make that format on the mac now, then, what to do? >> >> >> Not worry about it, unless you do lots of mastering for folks. >> >> >> >> >>> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:51 PM >>> Subject: Re: A question about bouncing >>> >>> >>> Actually, most CD duplicators have preferred DDP for at least the last >>> decade. Compact discs are not perfect and have inherent errors in the >>> process of burning. The limit is about 500 errors as a threshold above >>> which a cD will be rejected by the duplicator. A DDP file is not prone to >>> write errors during a burn because it's just a digital copy of the master >>> along with the requisite PQ subcodes built into the file. There's no need >>> to translate to audio CD and then back from CD to the duplicating computer >>> that creates the stamper. The process eliminates a couple of steps and is >>> more reliable and, of course, faster. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >>> >>>> Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the >>>> last twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, >>>> wave files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM >>>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: Re: A question about bouncing >>>> >>>> I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly >>>> honest >>>> with you. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" >>>> >>>> To: >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM >>>> Subject: Re: A question about bouncing >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master >>>>> disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master >>>>> disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you >>>>> wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for >>>>> whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from >>>>> uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski >>>>> On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side >>>>>> that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. >>>>>> >>>>>> Slau >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised >>>>>>> I'd ask. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> A friend of mine who is right now, at least, e
Re: A question about bouncing
FYI, off the top of my head I think everything that'd be required to generate DDP in Reaper should be usable on the Mac side. You'll need to read the relevant section of the help file, probably a few times, and will absolutely need to varify that what you've created works before delivering to the pressing plant as Reaper hasn't made DDP generation easy or pleasant yet. There's plenty of tiny details that are likely to be beyond the less geeky humanoid. It does work though. Scott On 11/11/15, Chris Smart wrote: > At 12:15 AM 11/11/2015, you wrote: >> >> So then, if we can't make that format on the mac now, then, what to do? > > > Not worry about it, unless you do lots of mastering for folks. > > > > >> - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:51 PM >> Subject: Re: A question about bouncing >> >> >> Actually, most CD duplicators have preferred DDP for at least the last >> decade. Compact discs are not perfect and have inherent errors in the >> process of burning. The limit is about 500 errors as a threshold above >> which a cD will be rejected by the duplicator. A DDP file is not prone to >> write errors during a burn because it's just a digital copy of the master >> along with the requisite PQ subcodes built into the file. There's no need >> to translate to audio CD and then back from CD to the duplicating computer >> that creates the stamper. The process eliminates a couple of steps and is >> more reliable and, of course, faster. >> >> Slau >> >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: >> >>> Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the >>> last twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, >>> wave files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. >>> >>> -----Original Message- >>> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM >>> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: A question about bouncing >>> >>> I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly >>> honest >>> with you. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" >>> >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM >>> Subject: Re: A question about bouncing >>> >>> >>>> Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master >>>> disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master >>>> disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you >>>> wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for >>>> whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from >>>> uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski >>>> On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side >>>>> that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. >>>>> >>>>> Slau >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Guys, >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised >>>>>> I'd ask. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user >>>>>> wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a >>>>>> session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd >>>>>> never heard of it, but is this something we could do? >>>>>> >>>>>> Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them >>>>>> the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause >>>>>> errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of >>>>>> each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical >>>>>> disc glass master. >>>>>> >>>>>> I just wonder if you all kn
Re: A question about bouncing
Thank you all so much for all of the helpful information. I appreciate everyone who has responded. Chris. - Original Message - From: Chris Smart To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 11:19 AM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing At 11:08 PM 11/10/2015, you wrote: That's kind a what I suspected. Are there really much advantages of this format, Slau, or not really, honestly. There are advantages, yes. It's not a universally accepted thing though, but it is out there and sometimes, clients and disc manufacturers insist on it. http://www.justmastering.com/article-ddpfileformat.php Chris --- Learn to meditate and train your brain with Muse, the first lab-grade EEG biofeedback headband for home use! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A question about bouncing
At 12:15 AM 11/11/2015, you wrote: So then, if we can't make that format on the mac now, then, what to do? Not worry about it, unless you do lots of mastering for folks. - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:51 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Actually, most CD duplicators have preferred DDP for at least the last decade. Compact discs are not perfect and have inherent errors in the process of burning. The limit is about 500 errors as a threshold above which a cD will be rejected by the duplicator. A DDP file is not prone to write errors during a burn because it's just a digital copy of the master along with the requisite PQ subcodes built into the file. There's no need to translate to audio CD and then back from CD to the duplicating computer that creates the stamper. The process eliminates a couple of steps and is more reliable and, of course, faster. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the last twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, wave files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A question about bouncing I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest with you. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Guys, I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised I'd ask. A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd never heard of it, but is this something we could do? Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical disc glass master. I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" gr
RE: A question about bouncing
Yep, DDP doesn't come up as often. It's been an option at most places I've delt with, but only recently did I run into a place in the UK that would accept DDP or nothing. Thankfully, Slau is willing to crank out a DDP for me for that project. At 11:26 PM 11/10/2015, you wrote: Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the last twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, wave files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [ mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A question about bouncing I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest with you. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing > Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master > disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master > disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you > wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for > whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from > uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski > On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: >> Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side >> that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. >> >> Slau >> >> >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> wrote: >> >> >>> Guys, >>> >>> >>> I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised >>> I'd ask. >>> >>> >>> A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user >>> wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a >>> session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd >>> never heard of it, but is this something we could do? >>> >>> Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them >>> the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause >>> errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of >>> each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical >>> disc glass master. >>> >>> I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this >>> is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major >>> setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >>> visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- Learn to meditate and train your brain with Muse, the first lab-grade EEG biofeedback headband for home use! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A question about bouncing
At 11:08 PM 11/10/2015, you wrote: That's kind a what I suspected. Are there really much advantages of this format, Slau, or not really, honestly. There are advantages, yes. It's not a universally accepted thing though, but it is out there and sometimes, clients and disc manufacturers insist on it. http://www.justmastering.com/article-ddpfileformat.php Chris --- Learn to meditate and train your brain with Muse, the first lab-grade EEG biofeedback headband for home use! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A question about bouncing
Nick, how many masters have you delivered to CD manufacturing plants? Just about all of them prefer DDP if they can get it. The main reason for this is that unlike a CDR you burned yourself which may contain errors, or even WAV files plus a cue sheet which is also error proan, is that a DDP fileset contains everything about the disc, ready to go. all the audio, accurate timing, all metadata including ISRC's etc. The machines that produce the CD's accept the DDP fileset directly, with no human intervention. Asuming the mastering engineer did his job correctly, what comes out on the discs is exactly what was intended. Yes, some places will accept a WAV+cue bundle or the files on a CDR or USB stick, but the bigger places don't prefer those. Now, do we have any accessible way of doing this? On the Windows side I am not aware of any - unfortunately, Sound Forge does not create DDP, even though it is great for splitting tracks on CD audio frame boundaries. There is some sort of DDP facility in Reaper, but I have no idea how good it is or if it is accessible. At 10:48 PM 11/10/2015, you wrote: Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: > Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side > that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. > > Slau > > > On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > >> Guys, >> >> >> I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised >> I'd ask. >> >> >> A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user >> wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a >> session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd >> never heard of it, but is this something we could do? >> >> Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them >> the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause >> errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of >> each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical >> disc glass master. >> >> I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this >> is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major >> setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. >> >> Chris. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >> visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- Learn to meditate and train your brain with Muse, the first lab-grade EEG biofeedback headband for home use! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A question about bouncing
No problems. Thanks for letting us know. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 11, 2015 12:39 AM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Perhaps another application will come along that'll be accessible. Right now, WaveBurner is the only accessible game in town. Perhaps there's even one out there that's fairly accessible already and it's just waiting to be discovered. I don't know Slau On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Christopher-Mark … wrote: So then, if we can't make that format on the mac now, then, what to do? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:51 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Actually, most CD duplicators have preferred DDP for at least the last decade. Compact discs are not perfect and have inherent errors in the process of burning. The limit is about 500 errors as a threshold above which a cD will be rejected by the duplicator. A DDP file is not prone to write errors during a burn because it's just a digital copy of the master along with the requisite PQ subcodes built into the file. There's no need to translate to audio CD and then back from CD to the duplicating computer that creates the stamper. The process eliminates a couple of steps and is more reliable and, of course, faster. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the last twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, wave files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A question about bouncing I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest with you. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Guys, I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised I'd ask. A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd never heard of it, but is this something we could do? Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical disc glass master. I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been
Re: A question about bouncing
Perhaps another application will come along that'll be accessible. Right now, WaveBurner is the only accessible game in town. Perhaps there's even one out there that's fairly accessible already and it's just waiting to be discovered. I don't know Slau On Nov 11, 2015, at 12:15 AM, Christopher-Mark … wrote: > So then, if we can't make that format on the mac now, then, what to do? > > Chris. > > - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:51 PM > Subject: Re: A question about bouncing > > > Actually, most CD duplicators have preferred DDP for at least the last > decade. Compact discs are not perfect and have inherent errors in the process > of burning. The limit is about 500 errors as a threshold above which a cD > will be rejected by the duplicator. A DDP file is not prone to write errors > during a burn because it's just a digital copy of the master along with the > requisite PQ subcodes built into the file. There's no need to translate to > audio CD and then back from CD to the duplicating computer that creates the > stamper. The process eliminates a couple of steps and is more reliable and, > of course, faster. > > Slau > > On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > >> Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the last >> twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, wave >> files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Christopher-Mark Gilland >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM >> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: A question about bouncing >> >> I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest >> with you. >> >> Chris. >> >> - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM >> Subject: Re: A question about bouncing >> >> >>> Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master >>> disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master >>> disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you >>> wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for >>> whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from >>> uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski >>> On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: >>>> Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side >>>> that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. >>>> >>>> Slau >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Guys, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised >>>>> I'd ask. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user >>>>> wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a >>>>> session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd >>>>> never heard of it, but is this something we could do? >>>>> >>>>> Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them >>>>> the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause >>>>> errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of >>>>> each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical >>>>> disc glass master. >>>>> >>>>> I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this >>>>> is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major >>>>> setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. >>>>> >>>>> Chris. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, &
Re: A question about bouncing
So then, if we can't make that format on the mac now, then, what to do? Chris. - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:51 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Actually, most CD duplicators have preferred DDP for at least the last decade. Compact discs are not perfect and have inherent errors in the process of burning. The limit is about 500 errors as a threshold above which a cD will be rejected by the duplicator. A DDP file is not prone to write errors during a burn because it's just a digital copy of the master along with the requisite PQ subcodes built into the file. There's no need to translate to audio CD and then back from CD to the duplicating computer that creates the stamper. The process eliminates a couple of steps and is more reliable and, of course, faster. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the last twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, wave files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A question about bouncing I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest with you. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Guys, I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised I'd ask. A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd never heard of it, but is this something we could do? Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical disc glass master. I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this gr
Re: A question about bouncing
CD’s may be fine for duplication, but why would a mastering engineer accept a CD? Thats asking them to master a 16 bit version of the thing that was most likely recorded and mixed at 24 bit. And while Duplication houses will accept CD’s a lot of them ask for this format now as its basically as i understand it an audio image of the CD with the tracks laid out in correct order and with the appropriate gaps between tracks. This also provides them with the audio in the same high quality it was in after mastering so its not down converted till its put on the CD and each CD is made from that file instead of copying a 16 bit CD for the duplications. That bing said most mastering engineers will take the stereo wav of your final mix for mastering and provide you/the duplication house with the DDP file so unless your friend is mastering stuff and sending them off to a duplication house themselves there mastering engineer should be able to provide the final disc in DDP format. Also Reaper supports exporting/Rendering to the DDP format so thats another tool you could use to do it on the mac if you can’t get your hands on a copy of wav burner. . > On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > > Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the last > twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, wave > files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher-Mark Gilland > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A question about bouncing > > I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest > with you. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - > From: "Nick Gawronski" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: A question about bouncing > > >> Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master >> disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master >> disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you >> wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for >> whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from >> uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski >> On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: >>> Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side >>> that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised >>>> I'd ask. >>>> >>>> >>>> A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user >>>> wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a >>>> session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd >>>> never heard of it, but is this something we could do? >>>> >>>> Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them >>>> the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause >>>> errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of >>>> each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical >>>> disc glass master. >>>> >>>> I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this >>>> is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major >>>> setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >>>> visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit >>> https://g
Re: A question about bouncing
Actually, most CD duplicators have preferred DDP for at least the last decade. Compact discs are not perfect and have inherent errors in the process of burning. The limit is about 500 errors as a threshold above which a cD will be rejected by the duplicator. A DDP file is not prone to write errors during a burn because it's just a digital copy of the master along with the requisite PQ subcodes built into the file. There's no need to translate to audio CD and then back from CD to the duplicating computer that creates the stamper. The process eliminates a couple of steps and is more reliable and, of course, faster. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:26 PM, Poppa Bear wrote: > Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the last > twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, wave > files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. > > -Original Message- > From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Christopher-Mark Gilland > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: A question about bouncing > > I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest > with you. > > Chris. > > - Original Message - > From: "Nick Gawronski" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM > Subject: Re: A question about bouncing > > >> Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master >> disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master >> disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you >> wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for >> whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from >> uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski >> On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: >>> Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side >>> that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. >>> >>> Slau >>> >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Guys, >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised >>>> I'd ask. >>>> >>>> >>>> A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user >>>> wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a >>>> session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd >>>> never heard of it, but is this something we could do? >>>> >>>> Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them >>>> the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause >>>> errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of >>>> each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical >>>> disc glass master. >>>> >>>> I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this >>>> is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major >>>> setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >>>> visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > &q
Re: A question about bouncing
That was kind a what I was thinking. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Poppa Bear" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:26 PM Subject: RE: A question about bouncing Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the last twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, wave files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A question about bouncing I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest with you. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Guys, I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised I'd ask. A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd never heard of it, but is this something we could do? Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical disc glass master. I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: A question about bouncing
Honestly in all of the projects that I have been involved in over the last twenty years that went to a CD duplication press or mastering house, wave files, ADAT or a CD has always worked just fine. -Original Message- From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark Gilland Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 7:15 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: A question about bouncing I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest with you. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing > Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master > disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master > disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you > wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for > whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from > uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski > On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: >> Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side >> that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. >> >> Slau >> >> >> On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >> wrote: >> >> >>> Guys, >>> >>> >>> I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised >>> I'd ask. >>> >>> >>> A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user >>> wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a >>> session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd >>> never heard of it, but is this something we could do? >>> >>> Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them >>> the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause >>> errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of >>> each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical >>> disc glass master. >>> >>> I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this >>> is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major >>> setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. >>> >>> Chris. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >>> visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A question about bouncing
I was honestly kind a wonderring that same thing, Nick, to be frankly honest with you. Chris. - Original Message - From: "Nick Gawronski" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:48 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Guys, I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised I'd ask. A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd never heard of it, but is this something we could do? Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical disc glass master. I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A question about bouncing
That's kind a what I suspected. Are there really much advantages of this format, Slau, or not really, honestly. Chris. - Original Message - From: Slau Halatyn To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2015 10:42 PM Subject: Re: A question about bouncing Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Guys, I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised I'd ask. A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd never heard of it, but is this something we could do? Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical disc glass master. I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A question about bouncing
Hi, That is strange that a CD duplication house does not want a master disc as everyone I have looked at did as their view point was the master disc had the exact layout of the duplicated or replicated discs that you wanted to sell to users or that you wanted them to make for you for whatever you were needing them for. I always burn my audio discs from uncompressed wav files if possible. Nick Gawronski On Tue, November 10, 2015 9:42 pm, Slau Halatyn wrote: > Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side > that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. > > Slau > > > On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland > wrote: > > >> Guys, >> >> >> I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised >> I'd ask. >> >> >> A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user >> wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a >> session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd >> never heard of it, but is this something we could do? >> >> Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them >> the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause >> errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of >> each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical >> disc glass master. >> >> I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this >> is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major >> setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. >> >> Chris. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, >> visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: A question about bouncing
Pro Tools doesn't do DDP. The only accessible program on the Mac side that'll do that is Wave Burner by Apple which is no longer available. Slau On Nov 10, 2015, at 10:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Guys, > > I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised I'd > ask. > > A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user wanted > to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a session out > to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd never heard of it, > but is this something we could do? > > Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them the > material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause errors, > etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of each track. > Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical disc glass master. > > I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this is > something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major setback of > PT, as this is such a common thing to do. > > Chris. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
A question about bouncing
Guys, I'm not totally sure what he's talking about with this, but I promised I'd ask. A friend of mine who is right now, at least, exclusively a Reaper user wanted to know if Protools has a way of renderring, bouncing rather, a session out to a CD format. He said the format is called DDP. I'd never heard of it, but is this something we could do? Basically, he said a lot of masterring companies want you to send them the material without using physical discs, as that can sometimes cause errors, etc. So, he said usually, most companies will want a ddp of each track. Then, they remaster things, and send you back a physical disc glass master. I just wonder if you all know anything about this, or perhaps if this is something ProTools can do. He said if not, he finds that a major setback of PT, as this is such a common thing to do. Chris. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Hi, You or they could always download the ogg tools and if no mac build is around which I would think there is one around you can encode the wav file to the ogg format then get it to them. I would think that pro tools would have an ogg encoder in it but there has to be some good free options out there. I would also find out why they want it in this format as there might be a reason for this. I could really care less what format things are in but do agree that for some project when size matters the format can matter. Nick Gawronski On 10/12/2014 1:05 PM, Slau Halatyn wrote: What Kevin said. Also, if he's a snob, let him download a stereo WAV file and be done with it. I bet he can't reliably tell the difference between WAV, ogg and a 320 kbps mp3. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Yup. We got it taken care of. Switch did the trick. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:22 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions oh wait, you did. never mind. glad it's resolved. At 05:16 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: ok send him an .ogg file then. At 03:17 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Mister Smart, I don't know why he wants vorbis, but he's the client, not me. If he's paying me to do this for him, then don't you think he gets the right to choose how he gets the file? No offense. I totally agree with what you're saying, don't get me wrong, so no need for you to get all smart alak with me. I'm just trying to adhere to his request. Why he wants it in vorbis, I'll never know either, but he does and is paying me to do it as he requested, and that's what matters. If someone wanted a low end ford instead of a lamberguini are you gonna try to sell them the lamborguini when that isn't the car they want, just because it's higher quality? If it isn't what the client wants/needs then yes, one can recommend a better sollution, but there comes a point where the customer has to be right. Would I personally do it in vorbis? No. I wouldn't, but it's obviously what he wants, and I have to make a living, so telling him to go elseware wouldn't be professional of me... especially when I know I can get the resources to do what he's asking. I'm sorry for snapping earlier, but ethicly speaking, do you not think that he has the right to request something be done as he sees fit? This is why I asked in the first place, as I don't know much about recording in that format on the mac side of things. If it were Windows, it would be a different story, hell, even if it were Linux, it would be another story, but it's not. Therefore, I asked here as I was hoping! that this list would be a good resource to get some info. Instead however, I feel belittled like my question isn't even worth answerring. Don't give me the we did answer did we not? No! You really technically didn't. Instead, you just bickerred about how it's not a good idea. OK, duh! I get that! I know it's not. I've already covered the fact that I agree 100%, but again, it's not my decision. This is what the client wants, and seeing he's my client, it's therefore my responsibility as an engineer to meet, if not exceed his expectations of satisfaction. This isn't open for debate. Kevin, thank you for the suggestions of Switch. I'd totally forgotten about that gem. I'll definitely try using that to see if I can convert it, as I do have a license for the app that I bought about half a year ago. I don't hardly ever use it, I'll admit, but I do have it laying around, now that you mention it. Consider this thread closed. I don't want any more crap about it. It's obvious that everyone elses work ethical policies are different from mine. I feel it's best to satisfy the customer. You all obviously feel it's best to give quality even if it's not what has been required. Though I disagree with this approach tremendously, I'm gonna let dead dogs lie. I'm willing to agree to disagree. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions LOL why'd you ask our opinions then? First you say he's nuts about sound quality, then you ask about compressed lossy formats. Why? if he wants high quality audio, send him high quality audio! (wav, flac, alac etc.) At 02:19 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Chris, I'm not the one who makes the rules. This guy is paying me for the final project, so frankly, I think he therefore gets a little say in the matter, doesn't he? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions 5 minutes of 16-bit 44.1K stereo wav is only 50.5 MB in size. Even 5 minutes of 24-bit 48K stereo is 82.4 MB. Neither of you have the bandwidth to transfer that much? Even 24.192 is only
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Whatever Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 5:18 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions the feeling is mutual. LOL At 03:32 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Chris I get your point, stop rubbing it in! Drop it! I got the issue resolved, and frankly, the client is satisfied as this point. Remind me never to have you do any work for me! No matter what the circumstance may be! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions I love high quality audio. so please send me a lossy compressed audio file. that doesn't compute! At 02:29 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: so send him uncompressed full quality audio then. At 02:16 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Kevin, First off, with all due respect, yes, it is! a paying client, and secondly, I don't feel he's being a snob at all. Some people like certain things. His thing just happens to be vorbis. I, personally don't prefer it, but, if it's really what he wants, then, so be it. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
oh wait, you did. never mind. glad it's resolved. At 05:16 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: ok send him an .ogg file then. At 03:17 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Mister Smart, I don't know why he wants vorbis, but he's the client, not me. If he's paying me to do this for him, then don't you think he gets the right to choose how he gets the file? No offense. I totally agree with what you're saying, don't get me wrong, so no need for you to get all smart alak with me. I'm just trying to adhere to his request. Why he wants it in vorbis, I'll never know either, but he does and is paying me to do it as he requested, and that's what matters. If someone wanted a low end ford instead of a lamberguini are you gonna try to sell them the lamborguini when that isn't the car they want, just because it's higher quality? If it isn't what the client wants/needs then yes, one can recommend a better sollution, but there comes a point where the customer has to be right. Would I personally do it in vorbis? No. I wouldn't, but it's obviously what he wants, and I have to make a living, so telling him to go elseware wouldn't be professional of me... especially when I know I can get the resources to do what he's asking. I'm sorry for snapping earlier, but ethicly speaking, do you not think that he has the right to request something be done as he sees fit? This is why I asked in the first place, as I don't know much about recording in that format on the mac side of things. If it were Windows, it would be a different story, hell, even if it were Linux, it would be another story, but it's not. Therefore, I asked here as I was hoping! that this list would be a good resource to get some info. Instead however, I feel belittled like my question isn't even worth answerring. Don't give me the we did answer did we not? No! You really technically didn't. Instead, you just bickerred about how it's not a good idea. OK, duh! I get that! I know it's not. I've already covered the fact that I agree 100%, but again, it's not my decision. This is what the client wants, and seeing he's my client, it's therefore my responsibility as an engineer to meet, if not exceed his expectations of satisfaction. This isn't open for debate. Kevin, thank you for the suggestions of Switch. I'd totally forgotten about that gem. I'll definitely try using that to see if I can convert it, as I do have a license for the app that I bought about half a year ago. I don't hardly ever use it, I'll admit, but I do have it laying around, now that you mention it. Consider this thread closed. I don't want any more crap about it. It's obvious that everyone elses work ethical policies are different from mine. I feel it's best to satisfy the customer. You all obviously feel it's best to give quality even if it's not what has been required. Though I disagree with this approach tremendously, I'm gonna let dead dogs lie. I'm willing to agree to disagree. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions LOL why'd you ask our opinions then? First you say he's nuts about sound quality, then you ask about compressed lossy formats. Why? if he wants high quality audio, send him high quality audio! (wav, flac, alac etc.) At 02:19 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Chris, I'm not the one who makes the rules. This guy is paying me for the final project, so frankly, I think he therefore gets a little say in the matter, doesn't he? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions 5 minutes of 16-bit 44.1K stereo wav is only 50.5 MB in size. Even 5 minutes of 24-bit 48K stereo is 82.4 MB. Neither of you have the bandwidth to transfer that much? Even 24.192 is only going to take up about 330 MB. Convert it to FLAC and you'll save approximately half the space, with absolutely no reduction in quality. At 01:50 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: So, I have a session fully recorded that a friend wants to hear really really badly. I have no problem at all sharing it with him, but he's very very picky about his audio listenning. He wants the file in ogg vorbis. I don'
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
the feeling is mutual. LOL At 03:32 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Chris I get your point, stop rubbing it in! Drop it! I got the issue resolved, and frankly, the client is satisfied as this point. Remind me never to have you do any work for me! No matter what the circumstance may be! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions I love high quality audio. so please send me a lossy compressed audio file. that doesn't compute! At 02:29 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: so send him uncompressed full quality audio then. At 02:16 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Kevin, First off, with all due respect, yes, it is! a paying client, and secondly, I don't feel he's being a snob at all. Some people like certain things. His thing just happens to be vorbis. I, personally don't prefer it, but, if it's really what he wants, then, so be it. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
ok send him an .ogg file then. At 03:17 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Mister Smart, I don't know why he wants vorbis, but he's the client, not me. If he's paying me to do this for him, then don't you think he gets the right to choose how he gets the file? No offense. I totally agree with what you're saying, don't get me wrong, so no need for you to get all smart alak with me. I'm just trying to adhere to his request. Why he wants it in vorbis, I'll never know either, but he does and is paying me to do it as he requested, and that's what matters. If someone wanted a low end ford instead of a lamberguini are you gonna try to sell them the lamborguini when that isn't the car they want, just because it's higher quality? If it isn't what the client wants/needs then yes, one can recommend a better sollution, but there comes a point where the customer has to be right. Would I personally do it in vorbis? No. I wouldn't, but it's obviously what he wants, and I have to make a living, so telling him to go elseware wouldn't be professional of me... especially when I know I can get the resources to do what he's asking. I'm sorry for snapping earlier, but ethicly speaking, do you not think that he has the right to request something be done as he sees fit? This is why I asked in the first place, as I don't know much about recording in that format on the mac side of things. If it were Windows, it would be a different story, hell, even if it were Linux, it would be another story, but it's not. Therefore, I asked here as I was hoping! that this list would be a good resource to get some info. Instead however, I feel belittled like my question isn't even worth answerring. Don't give me the we did answer did we not? No! You really technically didn't. Instead, you just bickerred about how it's not a good idea. OK, duh! I get that! I know it's not. I've already covered the fact that I agree 100%, but again, it's not my decision. This is what the client wants, and seeing he's my client, it's therefore my responsibility as an engineer to meet, if not exceed his expectations of satisfaction. This isn't open for debate. Kevin, thank you for the suggestions of Switch. I'd totally forgotten about that gem. I'll definitely try using that to see if I can convert it, as I do have a license for the app that I bought about half a year ago. I don't hardly ever use it, I'll admit, but I do have it laying around, now that you mention it. Consider this thread closed. I don't want any more crap about it. It's obvious that everyone elses work ethical policies are different from mine. I feel it's best to satisfy the customer. You all obviously feel it's best to give quality even if it's not what has been required. Though I disagree with this approach tremendously, I'm gonna let dead dogs lie. I'm willing to agree to disagree. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions LOL why'd you ask our opinions then? First you say he's nuts about sound quality, then you ask about compressed lossy formats. Why? if he wants high quality audio, send him high quality audio! (wav, flac, alac etc.) At 02:19 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Chris, I'm not the one who makes the rules. This guy is paying me for the final project, so frankly, I think he therefore gets a little say in the matter, doesn't he? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions 5 minutes of 16-bit 44.1K stereo wav is only 50.5 MB in size. Even 5 minutes of 24-bit 48K stereo is 82.4 MB. Neither of you have the bandwidth to transfer that much? Even 24.192 is only going to take up about 330 MB. Convert it to FLAC and you'll save approximately half the space, with absolutely no reduction in quality. At 01:50 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: So, I have a session fully recorded that a friend wants to hear really really badly. I have no problem at all sharing it with him, but he's very very picky about his audio listenning. He wants the file in ogg vorbis. I don't think PT 11.2 can bouncve into vorbis, can it? If not, are there any good Voiceover
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
I've only used Switch for Windows, but it's accessible and works fine. They have a video file converter too. At 03:00 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Kevin, regarding switch, is the soft developed by nhc software? If yes, please let me know that this one is great. I purchased express burner from their and work extremely well with vo too. -Original Message- From: Kevin Reeves Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:39 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions As I said in my message, unless he's a paying client, I'd tell him to deal. Since he's a paying client, then obviously not. Grabb one of the apps I mentioned, and you'll be good to go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
ROFL! How Lame! LOL! Now that! was good! I love it! LOL! Like the Lame encoder. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:28 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Chris Smart wrote: can PT be set up to work with external encoders? Never heard of anything other than the mp3 encoder that used to be a separate, paid add-on until they finally caught up with the twentieth century and made it part of the defaults. How lame, so to speak. Maybe there's the possibility of third-party encoding right from within the Bounce dialog but I've never heard of it. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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That would be awesome if so, Chris, I second your question. If so, wow! Imagine the doors which that could open! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions can PT be set up to work with external encoders? At 02:47 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: By default, PT supports WAV, AIF, mp3 and MXF. On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > no idea. but there are lots of tools to encode to flac. > > At 02:41 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: >> Does Pro Tools even do flac? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Actually, I've never heard of mxf. What apps play that format, or, is that only mainly a PT propriatary thing? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions By default, PT supports WAV, AIF, mp3 and MXF. On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote: no idea. but there are lots of tools to encode to flac. At 02:41 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Does Pro Tools even do flac? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Not a bad idea Chris. I did get the job done with Switch, but, that said, I will take a look at the web site, as I'm always interested in reading up on new software, and trying things out. Thank you for the suggestion. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:44 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions also maybe try some of the programs listed at http://www.vorbis.com/software/ At 02:39 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: As I said in my message, unless he's a paying client, I'd tell him to deal. Since he's a paying client, then obviously not. Grabb one of the apps I mentioned, and you'll be good to go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
I'm not sure, actually Kevin. I don't think so, but I can have a look for ya and see, if you'd like. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:41 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions Does Pro Tools even do flac? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Let me ask him seeing that it's a song he wrote. I don't want to go against copyright. If he is ok with it though, then I'll send a link to the track, sure thing. Don't count on it though. It's going to depend on his wishes. Most likely though, knowing him as I do, he'll be ok with it. I'll keep you posted. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:40 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions While you're encoding samples, can we hear one? I'd love to check out this mix. At 02:34 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Chris, Nobody said it was a stupid question. The fact of the matter is that most people on the planet who are paying for a file require the highest resolution (eg. WAV, AIF, what have you) and the overwhelming majority are absolutely fine with mpeg or AAC encoding for approval purpose. It's not your question that's ridiculous but your clients request. Let him download full resolution and be done with it. Or, if you really want to bend over backwards and encode the file for him, fine. Do a Google search for an encoder. You're more likely to find a few people on the MacVisionaries list that might have a lead on an ogg translator. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Well God damn! Fine! I'll just tell him to get over it young, and hope he doesn't fire me in the process. I'm sorry for asking such an apparently ridiculously stupid question! > > Chris. > -- > A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. > > (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) > - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" > > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions > > > What Kevin said. Also, if he's a snob, let him download a stereo WAV file and be done with it. I bet he can't reliably tell the difference between WAV, ogg and a 320 kbps mp3. > > Slau > > On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: > >> Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. >> There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have >> to. >> But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Kevin, I apreeciate your help. NO, seriously, I really do. Frankly, why I didn't think of Switch to start with... I'm feeling a bit stupid right about now. LOL! Oh well, happens to the best of us from time to time. LOL! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:39 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions As I said in my message, unless he's a paying client, I'd tell him to deal. Since he's a paying client, then obviously not. Grabb one of the apps I mentioned, and you'll be good to go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Chris I get your point, stop rubbing it in! Drop it! I got the issue resolved, and frankly, the client is satisfied as this point. Remind me never to have you do any work for me! No matter what the circumstance may be! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:36 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions I love high quality audio. so please send me a lossy compressed audio file. that doesn't compute! At 02:29 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: so send him uncompressed full quality audio then. At 02:16 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Kevin, First off, with all due respect, yes, it is! a paying client, and secondly, I don't feel he's being a snob at all. Some people like certain things. His thing just happens to be vorbis. I, personally don't prefer it, but, if it's really what he wants, then, so be it. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Chris, he gets as many do-overs as he needs. As long as he pays me for the studio time, he gets what he needs, point blank. Quit being a jack ass about it! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:35 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions Can't sendspace and Dropbox both handle 100MB in size without complaining? That allows for 16-bit 44.1K wav, unless the song is overly long in which case, convert to FLAC and save lots of space without any audio quality compromise. If you're taking paying clients, I assume you have a way to transfer files that is more robust than free sendspace or Dropbox though, so file sizes and bandwidth limitations are not an issue. If you react this way to answers to a question, god help this client of yours if he doesn't like your mix. How many do-overs does he get before you freak out? LOL I love it. You cuss us out with a bible quote in your signature. Don't forget your meds today! At 02:21 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Well God damn! Fine! I'll just tell him to get over it young, and hope he doesn't fire me in the process. I'm sorry for asking such an apparently ridiculously stupid question! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions What Kevin said. Also, if he's a snob, let him download a stereo WAV file and be done with it. I bet he can't reliably tell the difference between WAV, ogg and a 320 kbps mp3. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
I still dont' find it bending over backwards. If I asked you to do this for me with a project I was paying you for, and you refused, then frankly Slau, even if you already had done the labor work of the recording and mixing, you'd still not get paid. I'd tell you to take the work you'd already done and stick it where the sun don't shine. If I'm paying someone to do a project for me, and I request it be done a certain way, then darnit, I want it done in my perspective of being right, as I request, otherwise, you don't get your payment. Bottom line. I don't care how rediculous you may think it is, if it's what I want, then it's what I should get. I feel a more professional way to have handled this is to say, I am unfamiliar with how to do this. Though I will try to do some research to figure it out, just know that's more labor on my part, therefore, more hourly rates for you. If you want it done, I'll see to it it be done, but just know, it may take a while, therefore increasing your overall cost. I'd then tell them politely that honestly a wave uncompressed file would sound just as good, if not better, most all audio software pkg's could play it regardless the OS, and most all software CD burning PKG's regardless again the OS could burn them to audio CD with no problem. Plus, it would be uncompressed, therefore would be the highest quality possible. So, would it be ok if I just send it to you that way? I'd tell them I'd provide the web space for hosting the file which they could download, so that wouldn't be an issue. Then I'd await their response. If they still said they wanted it in this format, ogg, in this case, then ok, whatever. So be it. Just as long as they realize I did warn them, it would take me a while to research, so don't be alarmed when they get their bill. If they then get all snotty with me and try taking their business elseware, then that's their problem at this point, as I gave them options. But, saying outright, this is what you're getting, if you don't like it, then get over it, your request is rediculous... yeah, you go saying that to your supervisor. See how far it gets ya! I dare you! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) ----- Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:34 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions Chris, Nobody said it was a stupid question. The fact of the matter is that most people on the planet who are paying for a file require the highest resolution (eg. WAV, AIF, what have you) and the overwhelming majority are absolutely fine with mpeg or AAC encoding for approval purpose. It's not your question that's ridiculous but your clients request. Let him download full resolution and be done with it. Or, if you really want to bend over backwards and encode the file for him, fine. Do a Google search for an encoder. You're more likely to find a few people on the MacVisionaries list that might have a lead on an ogg translator. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Well God damn! Fine! I'll just tell him to get over it young, and hope he doesn't fire me in the process. I'm sorry for asking such an apparently ridiculously stupid question! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions What Kevin said. Also, if he's a snob, let him download a stereo WAV file and be done with it. I bet he can't reliably tell the difference between WAV, ogg and a 320 kbps mp3. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more opt
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:53 PM, Chris Smart wrote: can PT be set up to work with external encoders? Never heard of anything other than the mp3 encoder that used to be a separate, paid add-on until they finally caught up with the twentieth century and made it part of the defaults. How lame, so to speak. Maybe there's the possibility of third-party encoding right from within the Bounce dialog but I've never heard of it. Slau -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Mister Smart, I don't know why he wants vorbis, but he's the client, not me. If he's paying me to do this for him, then don't you think he gets the right to choose how he gets the file? No offense. I totally agree with what you're saying, don't get me wrong, so no need for you to get all smart alak with me. I'm just trying to adhere to his request. Why he wants it in vorbis, I'll never know either, but he does and is paying me to do it as he requested, and that's what matters. If someone wanted a low end ford instead of a lamberguini are you gonna try to sell them the lamborguini when that isn't the car they want, just because it's higher quality? If it isn't what the client wants/needs then yes, one can recommend a better sollution, but there comes a point where the customer has to be right. Would I personally do it in vorbis? No. I wouldn't, but it's obviously what he wants, and I have to make a living, so telling him to go elseware wouldn't be professional of me... especially when I know I can get the resources to do what he's asking. I'm sorry for snapping earlier, but ethicly speaking, do you not think that he has the right to request something be done as he sees fit? This is why I asked in the first place, as I don't know much about recording in that format on the mac side of things. If it were Windows, it would be a different story, hell, even if it were Linux, it would be another story, but it's not. Therefore, I asked here as I was hoping! that this list would be a good resource to get some info. Instead however, I feel belittled like my question isn't even worth answerring. Don't give me the we did answer did we not? No! You really technically didn't. Instead, you just bickerred about how it's not a good idea. OK, duh! I get that! I know it's not. I've already covered the fact that I agree 100%, but again, it's not my decision. This is what the client wants, and seeing he's my client, it's therefore my responsibility as an engineer to meet, if not exceed his expectations of satisfaction. This isn't open for debate. Kevin, thank you for the suggestions of Switch. I'd totally forgotten about that gem. I'll definitely try using that to see if I can convert it, as I do have a license for the app that I bought about half a year ago. I don't hardly ever use it, I'll admit, but I do have it laying around, now that you mention it. Consider this thread closed. I don't want any more crap about it. It's obvious that everyone elses work ethical policies are different from mine. I feel it's best to satisfy the customer. You all obviously feel it's best to give quality even if it's not what has been required. Though I disagree with this approach tremendously, I'm gonna let dead dogs lie. I'm willing to agree to disagree. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:30 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions LOL why'd you ask our opinions then? First you say he's nuts about sound quality, then you ask about compressed lossy formats. Why? if he wants high quality audio, send him high quality audio! (wav, flac, alac etc.) At 02:19 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Chris, I'm not the one who makes the rules. This guy is paying me for the final project, so frankly, I think he therefore gets a little say in the matter, doesn't he? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions 5 minutes of 16-bit 44.1K stereo wav is only 50.5 MB in size. Even 5 minutes of 24-bit 48K stereo is 82.4 MB. Neither of you have the bandwidth to transfer that much? Even 24.192 is only going to take up about 330 MB. Convert it to FLAC and you'll save approximately half the space, with absolutely no reduction in quality. At 01:50 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: So, I have a session fully recorded that a friend wants to hear really really badly. I have no problem at all sharing it with him, but he's very very picky about his audio listenning. He wants the file in ogg vorbis. I don't think PT 11.2 can bouncve into vorbis, can it? If not, are there any good Voiceover friendly tools you all could suggest that would let me just bounce
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Yep. Same company. I've used it and it is awesome. On Oct 12, 2014, at 3:00 PM, Juan Pablo wrote: > Kevin, regarding switch, is the soft developed by nhc software? > If yes, please let me know that this one is great. I purchased express burner > from their and work extremely well with vo too. > > -Original Message- From: Kevin Reeves > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:39 PM > To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions > > As I said in my message, unless he's a paying client, I'd tell him to deal. > > Since he's a paying client, then obviously not. Grabb one of the apps I > mentioned, and you'll be good to go. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Kevin, regarding switch, is the soft developed by nhc software? If yes, please let me know that this one is great. I purchased express burner from their and work extremely well with vo too. -Original Message- From: Kevin Reeves Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 3:39 PM To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions As I said in my message, unless he's a paying client, I'd tell him to deal. Since he's a paying client, then obviously not. Grabb one of the apps I mentioned, and you'll be good to go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
can PT be set up to work with external encoders? At 02:47 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: By default, PT supports WAV, AIF, mp3 and MXF. On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > no idea. but there are lots of tools to encode to flac. > > At 02:41 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: >> Does Pro Tools even do flac? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
By default, PT supports WAV, AIF, mp3 and MXF. On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Chris Smart wrote: > no idea. but there are lots of tools to encode to flac. > > At 02:41 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: >> Does Pro Tools even do flac? >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
no idea. but there are lots of tools to encode to flac. At 02:41 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Does Pro Tools even do flac? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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also maybe try some of the programs listed at http://www.vorbis.com/software/ At 02:39 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: As I said in my message, unless he's a paying client, I'd tell him to deal. Since he's a paying client, then obviously not. Grabb one of the apps I mentioned, and you'll be good to go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Re: Question about bouncing sessions
While you're encoding samples, can we hear one? I'd love to check out this mix. At 02:34 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Chris, Nobody said it was a stupid question. The fact of the matter is that most people on the planet who are paying for a file require the highest resolution (eg. WAV, AIF, what have you) and the overwhelming majority are absolutely fine with mpeg or AAC encoding for approval purpose. It's not your question that's ridiculous but your clients request. Let him download full resolution and be done with it. Or, if you really want to bend over backwards and encode the file for him, fine. Do a Google search for an encoder. You're more likely to find a few people on the MacVisionaries list that might have a lead on an ogg translator. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Well God damn! Fine! I'll just tell him to get over it young, and hope he doesn't fire me in the process. I'm sorry for asking such an apparently ridiculously stupid question! > > Chris. > -- > A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. > > (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) > - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions > > > What Kevin said. Also, if he's a snob, let him download a stereo WAV file and be done with it. I bet he can't reliably tell the difference between WAV, ogg and a 320 kbps mp3. > > Slau > > On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: > >> Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. >> There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. >> But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
As I said in my message, unless he's a paying client, I'd tell him to deal. Since he's a paying client, then obviously not. Grabb one of the apps I mentioned, and you'll be good to go. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
I love high quality audio. so please send me a lossy compressed audio file. that doesn't compute! At 02:29 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: so send him uncompressed full quality audio then. At 02:16 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Kevin, First off, with all due respect, yes, it is! a paying client, and secondly, I don't feel he's being a snob at all. Some people like certain things. His thing just happens to be vorbis. I, personally don't prefer it, but, if it's really what he wants, then, so be it. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Can't sendspace and Dropbox both handle 100MB in size without complaining? That allows for 16-bit 44.1K wav, unless the song is overly long in which case, convert to FLAC and save lots of space without any audio quality compromise. If you're taking paying clients, I assume you have a way to transfer files that is more robust than free sendspace or Dropbox though, so file sizes and bandwidth limitations are not an issue. If you react this way to answers to a question, god help this client of yours if he doesn't like your mix. How many do-overs does he get before you freak out? LOL I love it. You cuss us out with a bible quote in your signature. Don't forget your meds today! At 02:21 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Well God damn! Fine! I'll just tell him to get over it young, and hope he doesn't fire me in the process. I'm sorry for asking such an apparently ridiculously stupid question! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions What Kevin said. Also, if he's a snob, let him download a stereo WAV file and be done with it. I bet he can't reliably tell the difference between WAV, ogg and a 320 kbps mp3. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Chris, Nobody said it was a stupid question. The fact of the matter is that most people on the planet who are paying for a file require the highest resolution (eg. WAV, AIF, what have you) and the overwhelming majority are absolutely fine with mpeg or AAC encoding for approval purpose. It's not your question that's ridiculous but your clients request. Let him download full resolution and be done with it. Or, if you really want to bend over backwards and encode the file for him, fine. Do a Google search for an encoder. You're more likely to find a few people on the MacVisionaries list that might have a lead on an ogg translator. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 2:21 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: > Well God damn! Fine! I'll just tell him to get over it young, and hope he > doesn't fire me in the process. I'm sorry for asking such an apparently > ridiculously stupid question! > > Chris. > -- > A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must > love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if > you love one another. > > (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) > - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" > To: > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:05 PM > Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions > > > What Kevin said. Also, if he's a snob, let him download a stereo WAV file and > be done with it. I bet he can't reliably tell the difference between WAV, ogg > and a 320 kbps mp3. > > Slau > > On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: > >> Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate >> mp3 and tell him to deal with it. >> There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. >> But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. >> However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar >> with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the >> app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. >> >> Kevin >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
LOL why'd you ask our opinions then? First you say he's nuts about sound quality, then you ask about compressed lossy formats. Why? if he wants high quality audio, send him high quality audio! (wav, flac, alac etc.) At 02:19 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Chris, I'm not the one who makes the rules. This guy is paying me for the final project, so frankly, I think he therefore gets a little say in the matter, doesn't he? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions 5 minutes of 16-bit 44.1K stereo wav is only 50.5 MB in size. Even 5 minutes of 24-bit 48K stereo is 82.4 MB. Neither of you have the bandwidth to transfer that much? Even 24.192 is only going to take up about 330 MB. Convert it to FLAC and you'll save approximately half the space, with absolutely no reduction in quality. At 01:50 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: So, I have a session fully recorded that a friend wants to hear really really badly. I have no problem at all sharing it with him, but he's very very picky about his audio listenning. He wants the file in ogg vorbis. I don't think PT 11.2 can bouncve into vorbis, can it? If not, are there any good Voiceover friendly tools you all could suggest that would let me just bounce it as an uncompressed wave, then turn around and convert it to an ogg file? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
so send him uncompressed full quality audio then. At 02:16 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: Kevin, First off, with all due respect, yes, it is! a paying client, and secondly, I don't feel he's being a snob at all. Some people like certain things. His thing just happens to be vorbis. I, personally don't prefer it, but, if it's really what he wants, then, so be it. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Well God damn! Fine! I'll just tell him to get over it young, and hope he doesn't fire me in the process. I'm sorry for asking such an apparently ridiculously stupid question! Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Slau Halatyn" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:05 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions What Kevin said. Also, if he's a snob, let him download a stereo WAV file and be done with it. I bet he can't reliably tell the difference between WAV, ogg and a 320 kbps mp3. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Chris, I'm not the one who makes the rules. This guy is paying me for the final project, so frankly, I think he therefore gets a little say in the matter, doesn't he? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Chris Smart" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions 5 minutes of 16-bit 44.1K stereo wav is only 50.5 MB in size. Even 5 minutes of 24-bit 48K stereo is 82.4 MB. Neither of you have the bandwidth to transfer that much? Even 24.192 is only going to take up about 330 MB. Convert it to FLAC and you'll save approximately half the space, with absolutely no reduction in quality. At 01:50 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: So, I have a session fully recorded that a friend wants to hear really really badly. I have no problem at all sharing it with him, but he's very very picky about his audio listenning. He wants the file in ogg vorbis. I don't think PT 11.2 can bouncve into vorbis, can it? If not, are there any good Voiceover friendly tools you all could suggest that would let me just bounce it as an uncompressed wave, then turn around and convert it to an ogg file? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Kevin, First off, with all due respect, yes, it is! a paying client, and secondly, I don't feel he's being a snob at all. Some people like certain things. His thing just happens to be vorbis. I, personally don't prefer it, but, if it's really what he wants, then, so be it. Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) - Original Message - From: "Kevin Reeves" To: Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2014 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Question about bouncing sessions Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
What Kevin said. Also, if he's a snob, let him download a stereo WAV file and be done with it. I bet he can't reliably tell the difference between WAV, ogg and a 320 kbps mp3. Slau On Oct 12, 2014, at 1:58 PM, Kevin Reeves wrote: > Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 > and tell him to deal with it. > There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. > But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. > However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar > with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app > store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. > > Kevin > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
5 minutes of 16-bit 44.1K stereo wav is only 50.5 MB in size. Even 5 minutes of 24-bit 48K stereo is 82.4 MB. Neither of you have the bandwidth to transfer that much? Even 24.192 is only going to take up about 330 MB. Convert it to FLAC and you'll save approximately half the space, with absolutely no reduction in quality. At 01:50 PM 10/12/2014, you wrote: So, I have a session fully recorded that a friend wants to hear really really badly. I have no problem at all sharing it with him, but he's very very picky about his audio listenning. He wants the file in ogg vorbis. I don't think PT 11.2 can bouncve into vorbis, can it? If not, are there any good Voiceover friendly tools you all could suggest that would let me just bounce it as an uncompressed wave, then turn around and convert it to an ogg file? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about bouncing sessions
Honestly, unless it was a paying client, I'd send the guy a high bit rate mp3 and tell him to deal with it. There's no reason for someone to make you do more work than you have to. But, if the audio snobbery persists, Check out Switch, Amadeus Pro, Fission. However, None of these options are free, but these are the ones I'm familiar with that work well with voiceover. You may find some free options in the app store, but your mileage may very as far as accessibility goes. Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Question about bouncing sessions
So, I have a session fully recorded that a friend wants to hear really really badly. I have no problem at all sharing it with him, but he's very very picky about his audio listenning. He wants the file in ogg vorbis. I don't think PT 11.2 can bouncve into vorbis, can it? If not, are there any good Voiceover friendly tools you all could suggest that would let me just bounce it as an uncompressed wave, then turn around and convert it to an ogg file? Chris. -- A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. (John 13:34 and 35: NIV.) --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pro Tools Accessibility" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to ptaccess+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Question about Bouncing
Yep, and it's my biggest gripe about PT. Every other daw in the world not only has offline bouncing, but offline rendering of soft synth tracks. Their philosophy was sound about 15 years ago, which was the concept of rendering audio in realtime through their own hardware. Now, it's a moot point. Half the time, I'm rendering tracks using the internal macbook card, cause I'm on the run. I totally feel your pain. Kevin
Re: Question about Bouncing
As far as I know, there is only realtime bouncing with PT. Logic will do offline bouncing, but obviously you'd still have to realtime bounce your project. HTH. Take care, Chris Norman. On 12 Nov 2012, at 23:29, "Christopher-Mark Gilland" wrote: > OK, I know that most of you are really gonna probably advise against me doing > this, but I have my reasons. Basically I have a session which I need to > bounce to an mp3. The thing is, I don't have a lotta time. I know beyond a > doubt the session sounds exactly as I want it to in the final bounced mp3. > Is there not a way that I can bounce this down without it playing the session > back while bouncing? I mean ok, I see perfectly the benefits for having p t > do it that way, but some times that can really become extra ordinarily > tedious. > > Thank you kindly, > > Christopher-Mark Gilland. > Founder of CLG Productions > > Blog: > http://www.clgproductions.org > > Podcast: > http://clgproductions.podhoster.com > > E-mail: > ch...@clgproductions.com > > IMessage/Facetime: > theblindmusic...@att.net > > Windows Live Messenger: > ch...@blindperspectives.net > > Twitter: > @gilland_chris > > Facebook: > http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland > > Skype: > twinklesfriend2007 > > Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: > 704-697-2069 > > Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): > 980-272-8570 > >
Question about Bouncing
OK, I know that most of you are really gonna probably advise against me doing this, but I have my reasons. Basically I have a session which I need to bounce to an mp3. The thing is, I don't have a lotta time. I know beyond a doubt the session sounds exactly as I want it to in the final bounced mp3. Is there not a way that I can bounce this down without it playing the session back while bouncing? I mean ok, I see perfectly the benefits for having p t do it that way, but some times that can really become extra ordinarily tedious. Thank you kindly, Christopher-Mark Gilland. Founder of CLG Productions Blog: http://www.clgproductions.org Podcast: http://clgproductions.podhoster.com E-mail: ch...@clgproductions.com IMessage/Facetime: theblindmusic...@att.net Windows Live Messenger: ch...@blindperspectives.net Twitter: @gilland_chris Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/christopher.gilland Skype: twinklesfriend2007 Send me a fax from any standard fax machine: 704-697-2069 Google Voice: (Please use sparingly): 980-272-8570
