Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-13 Thread Jean-Philippe Rykiel

Dear Slau,
Like everyone else here, I would like to congratulate you for this 
concise and detailed summary.
For the moment, I have sold my ProTools license, I realised I was 
feeling comfortable with sonar and also that, being an intensive midi 
user, I needed a Daw that gave me full access to midi editing. I'm sorry 
if I ask questions that have been asked over and over on this list, but 
how did Midi editing's accessibility evolve with pro tools 11?
I know that ProTools VS sonar is one of the recurring subjects on this 
list, and I was wondering if one could compile and post a little summary 
of what has been said about this so far .

Thanks for Your continuing efforts, and not giving up.
 best regards,
jpr

http://www.jprykiel.com
http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
http://twitter.com/ryksounet
http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel

Le 11/05/2014 05:48, Gordon Kent a écrit :

Hey Slau:
that's a great summary of how things have evolved with PT.  Frankly, 
the only reason I need to stick with Sonar and windows is that I have 
such a huge library of sampled instruments that I have done that use 
the SFZ format.   At present, there is no aax SFZ player available for 
the Mac.  When we wer using RTAS the garritan engine which does 
support SFZ worked with Pro Tools, but nobody could tell me how to 
refer to the Mac folder structure in an SFZ definition file.  I tried 
putting the definitions and their associated .wav files in all kinds 
of folders but never got them to work, and now Garritan has pretty 
emphatically stated on their site that they have no plans to convert 
to the AAX format, which is rediculous since so many others have.  If 
we could get access to structure, the SFZ files could be converted to 
sound fonts and loaded into structure.  At this point, as far as 
instruments that are bundled with Pro tools are concerned, Structure 
is the real drawback for us.  A good usable sampler is a very 
important part of the production environment, especially for those of 
us who want to mix and match drum kits, custom sample instruments to 
our taste, and process vocals through synth modulators  etc.  I hope 
they haven't forgotten about this, as I said, it's really one  of the 
only reasons I haven't totally switched over to Pro Tools for the kind 
of stuff I do.  But know that I sincerely apreciate what you've done, 
I've gone through the same thing with my many years of association 
with cakewalk, which has put a lot of blind folks to independent work.

Gord
On May 9, 2014, at 11:59 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com 
mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:


As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for 
the Avid blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was 
published this afternoon at:

http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-audio-professionals/
Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read 
entirely chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post 
below. There were several photos in the post which are not included 
below.



I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at 
Five Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid '90s. Most 
of my early training in college was on large format consoles and 
multitrack tape machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the 
day. Computers had certainly found their way into the recording 
environment nearly a decade earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI 
sequencers.
During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio 
workstation (DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room 
and the DAW that led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work 
with in my senior year. I sat there in front of the monitor, staring 
at a graphic representation of a waveform, wondering whether the 
hours I spent learning how to splice quarter-inch tape with razors 
had been wasted...
I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one advanced digital audio 
class with my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive 
software known as inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the 
Macintosh. Several years earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal 
condition that impaired my vision. When I entered  college, most of 
the gear I used was highly tactile: mixing consoles, outboard 
processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time I was preparing 
for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence of this 
glowed from a VGA before me---everything, all under one roof, one 
box. Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and 
little did I know that 20 years later, I'd be so closely involved 
with Pro Tools and its accessibility for blind audio engineers and 
musicians.
After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in 
New York City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly 
planted in the analog multitrack world while occasionally using a 
computer for virtual tracks slaved to tape. 

Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-13 Thread Slau Halatyn
Hi Jean-Philippe,

The MIDI Event List became fully accessible as of version 11.1. As you may 
recall, it was always possible to create MIDI tracks, record and edit with a 
control surface in a cut, copy  paste manner. Now that the event list is 
visible, one can edit all parameters, filter, etc. I'm not sure of the exact 
status with patch libraries and the like but things are a whole lot better than 
they were a few years ago. Hope that helps.

Slau

On May 13, 2014, at 10:37 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel jpryk...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Slau,
 Like everyone else here, I would like to congratulate you for this concise 
 and detailed summary.
 For the moment, I have sold my ProTools license, I realised I was feeling 
 comfortable with sonar and also that, being an intensive midi user, I needed 
 a Daw that gave me full access to midi editing. I'm sorry if I ask questions 
 that have been asked over and over on this list, but how did Midi editing's 
 accessibility evolve with pro tools 11?
 I know that ProTools VS sonar is one of the recurring subjects on this list, 
 and I was wondering if one could compile and post a little summary of what 
 has been said about this so far .
 Thanks for Your continuing efforts, and not giving up.
  best regards,
 jpr
 
 http://www.jprykiel.com
 http://soundcloud.com/ryksounet
 http://twitter.com/ryksounet
 http://facebook.com/jeanphilipperykiel
 Le 11/05/2014 05:48, Gordon Kent a écrit :
 Hey Slau:
 that's a great summary of how things have evolved with PT.  Frankly, the 
 only reason I need to stick with Sonar and windows is that I have such a 
 huge library of sampled instruments that I have done that use the SFZ 
 format.   At present, there is no aax SFZ player available for the Mac.  
 When we wer using RTAS the garritan engine which does support SFZ worked 
 with Pro Tools, but nobody could tell me how to refer to the Mac folder 
 structure in an SFZ definition file.  I tried putting the definitions and 
 their associated .wav files in all kinds of folders but never got them to 
 work, and now Garritan has pretty emphatically stated on their site that 
 they have no plans to convert to the AAX format, which is rediculous since 
 so many others have.  If we could get access to structure, the SFZ files 
 could be converted to sound fonts and loaded into structure.  At this point, 
 as far as instruments that are bundled with Pro tools are concerned, 
 Structure is the real drawback for us.  A good usable sampler is a very 
 important part of the production environment, especially for those of us who 
 want to mix and match drum kits, custom sample instruments to our taste, and 
 process vocals through synth modulators  etc.  I hope they haven't forgotten 
 about this, as I said, it's really one  of the only reasons I haven't 
 totally switched over to Pro Tools for the kind of stuff I do.  But know 
 that I sincerely apreciate what you've done, I've gone through the same 
 thing with my many years of association with cakewalk, which has put a lot 
 of blind folks to independent work.  
 Gord
 On May 9, 2014, at 11:59 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for the 
 Avid blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was published this 
 afternoon at:
 http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-audio-professionals/
 Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read entirely 
 chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post below. There 
 were several photos in the post which are not included below.
 
 
 I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at Five 
 Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid '90s. Most of my early 
 training in college was on large format consoles and multitrack tape 
 machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the day. Computers had 
 certainly found their way into the recording environment nearly a decade 
 earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI sequencers. 
 During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio workstation 
 (DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room and the DAW that 
 led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work with in my senior year. I 
 sat there in front of the monitor, staring at a graphic representation of a 
 waveform, wondering whether the hours I spent learning how to splice 
 quarter-inch tape with razors had been wasted...
 I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one  advanced digital audio class 
 with my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive software known as 
 inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the Macintosh. Several years 
 earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal condition that impaired my 
 vision. When I entered  college, most of the gear I used was highly 
 tactile: mixing consoles, outboard processors, tape machine remotes, etc. 
 By the time I was preparing for graduation, things had 

Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread Scott Chesworth
Nicely done Slau. I'm blown away that they've actually gone public
about it this time around.

Was anyone at the Avid Developer Conference? I'm wondering whether
there are any thoughts here on which developers definitely saw those
accessibility slides.

Scott

On 5/10/14, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for the Avid
 blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was published this
 afternoon at:
 http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-audio-professionals/
 Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read entirely
 chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post below. There were
 several photos in the post which are not included below.


 I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at Five
 Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid '90s. Most of my early
 training in college was on large format consoles and multitrack tape
 machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the day. Computers had
 certainly found their way into the recording environment nearly a decade
 earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI sequencers.
 During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio workstation
 (DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room and the DAW that
 led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work with in my senior year. I
 sat there in front of the monitor, staring at a graphic representation of a
 waveform, wondering whether the hours I spent learning how to splice
 quarter-inch tape with razors had been wasted...
 I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one  advanced digital audio class
 with my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive software known as
 inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the Macintosh. Several years
 earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal condition that impaired my
 vision. When I entered  college, most of the gear I used was highly tactile:
 mixing consoles, outboard processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time
 I was preparing for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence
 of this glowed from a VGA before me--everything, all under one roof, one
 box. Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and little
 did I know that 20 years later, I'd be so closely involved with Pro Tools
 and its accessibility for blind audio engineers and musicians.
 After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in New
 York City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly planted in the
 analog multitrack world while occasionally using a computer for virtual
 tracks slaved to tape. As my vision gradually grew worse, however, it became
 more difficult or even impossible to perform certain tasks at the studio.
 LCD displays were dim, VU meters were a blur and tweaking outboard gear
 became tedious. All the while, I was experimenting with an LE version of Pro
 Tools, using the outSPOKEN speech synthesizer on my Mac to access it without
 having to look at the screen.
 With the introduction of Pro Tools HD, I finally made the jump over to the
 digital world. For several years, everything went well. A small community of
 blind Pro Tools users emerged and shared tips and techniques. While the
 program was almost entirely accessible, the use of a control surface proved
 to be indispensable for efficiency and tactile feedback. To me, it felt not
 that much different from the old days, only now I didn't have to deal with
 aligning my tape machines or worry about one of my console channel strips
 crapping out in the middle of a session.

 Around the time that Pro Tools HD was introduced, Apple was touting its new
 OS X operating system. Unfortunately, there was no screen reading software
 available for the new OS, but most blind Pro Tools users simply continued
 using their rigs under the old OS 9. Gradually, with Pro Tools' support of
 OS X, blind users started missing out on newer plug-ins, new virtual
 instruments and Pro Tools features, not to mention all the benefits of OS X.

 In 2005, Apple introduced OS X 10.4 Tiger with a built-in screen reader
 known as VoiceOver. This was revolutionary: now a blind user could walk up
 to any Mac running Tiger, press Command-f5 and have the computer start
 speaking. One of the first things I did was purchase an upgrade to Pro Tools
 HD 7.1 to use with Tiger. Unfortunately, when I launched the application,
 the only thing I could access was the menu bar. No other windows were
 readable. With the introduction of this built-in screen reader in the new
 operating system, the accessibility we enjoyed earlier was now broken.
 In 2006, I was invited to visit members of the development team at Avid in
 Daly City, Calif. I demonstrated the level of accessibility afforded blind
 users with outSPOKEN under OS 9 versus VoiceOver under OS X. It was clear to
 everyone that Pro Tools was unusable with VoiceOver and 

Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread Alan Macdonald
Fantastic stuff Slau. The jump in accessibility I've noticed from PT nine to 
eleven point one is substantial but it's great to know avid aren't resting on 
their laurels and more improvements are still to come in the future. I'm sure I 
speak for everyone when I say thank you for all the time and work you have put 
into this personally. I'm on track to pass my final year at college in a month 
and certainly would have struggled without both the pt upgrades and this group. 

Cheers everyone, 

Alan, 
Oban, Scotland 


Sent from my iPhone

 On 10 May 2014, at 04:59, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for the Avid 
 blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was published this 
 afternoon at:
 http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-audio-professionals/
 Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read entirely 
 chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post below. There were 
 several photos in the post which are not included below.
 
 
 I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at Five 
 Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid ’90s. Most of my early 
 training in college was on large format consoles and multitrack tape 
 machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the day. Computers had 
 certainly found their way into the recording environment nearly a decade 
 earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI sequencers. 
 During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio workstation 
 (DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room and the DAW that 
 led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work with in my senior year. I 
 sat there in front of the monitor, staring at a graphic representation of a 
 waveform, wondering whether the hours I spent learning how to splice 
 quarter-inch tape with razors had been wasted…
 I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one  advanced digital audio class with 
 my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive software known as 
 inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the Macintosh. Several years 
 earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal condition that impaired my 
 vision. When I entered  college, most of the gear I used was highly tactile: 
 mixing consoles, outboard processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time 
 I was preparing for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence 
 of this glowed from a VGA before me—everything, all under one roof, one box. 
 Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and little did I 
 know that 20 years later, I’d be so closely involved with Pro Tools and its 
 accessibility for blind audio engineers and musicians.
 After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in New York 
 City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly planted in the analog 
 multitrack world while occasionally using a computer for virtual tracks 
 slaved to tape. As my vision gradually grew worse, however, it became more 
 difficult or even impossible to perform certain tasks at the studio. LCD 
 displays were dim, VU meters were a blur and tweaking outboard gear became 
 tedious. All the while, I was experimenting with an LE version of Pro Tools, 
 using the outSPOKEN speech synthesizer on my Mac to access it without having 
 to look at the screen. 
 With the introduction of Pro Tools HD, I finally made the jump over to the 
 digital world. For several years, everything went well. A small community of 
 blind Pro Tools users emerged and shared tips and techniques. While the 
 program was almost entirely accessible, the use of a control surface proved 
 to be indispensable for efficiency and tactile feedback. To me, it felt not 
 that much different from the old days, only now I didn’t have to deal with 
 aligning my tape machines or worry about one of my console channel strips 
 crapping out in the middle of a session.
 
 Around the time that Pro Tools HD was introduced, Apple was touting its new 
 OS X operating system. Unfortunately, there was no screen reading software 
 available for the new OS, but most blind Pro Tools users simply continued 
 using their rigs under the old OS 9. Gradually, with Pro Tools’ support of OS 
 X, blind users started missing out on newer plug-ins, new virtual instruments 
 and Pro Tools features, not to mention all the benefits of OS X. 
 In 2005, Apple introduced OS X 10.4 Tiger with a built-in screen reader known 
 as VoiceOver. This was revolutionary: now a blind user could walk up to any 
 Mac running Tiger, press Command-f5 and have the computer start speaking. One 
 of the first things I did was purchase an upgrade to Pro Tools HD 7.1 to use 
 with Tiger. Unfortunately, when I launched the application, the only thing I 
 could access was the menu bar. No other windows were readable. With the 
 introduction of this built-in screen reader in the new 

Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread Ashley

well said

On 10/05/2014 10:35, Alan Macdonald wrote:
Fantastic stuff Slau. The jump in accessibility I've noticed from PT 
nine to eleven point one is substantial but it's great to know avid 
aren't resting on their laurels and more improvements are still to 
come in the future. I'm sure I speak for everyone when I say thank you 
for all the time and work you have put into this personally. I'm on 
track to pass my final year at college in a month and certainly would 
have struggled without both the pt upgrades and this group.


Cheers everyone,

Alan,
Oban, Scotland


Sent from my iPhone

On 10 May 2014, at 04:59, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com 
mailto:slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:


As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for 
the Avid blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was 
published this afternoon at:

http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-audio-professionals/
Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read 
entirely chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post 
below. There were several photos in the post which are not included 
below.



I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at 
Five Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid ’90s. Most 
of my early training in college was on large format consoles and 
multitrack tape machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the 
day. Computers had certainly found their way into the recording 
environment nearly a decade earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI 
sequencers.
During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio 
workstation (DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room 
and the DAW that led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work 
with in my senior year. I sat there in front of the monitor, staring 
at a graphic representation of a waveform, wondering whether the 
hours I spent learning how to splice quarter-inch tape with razors 
had been wasted…
I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one advanced digital audio 
class with my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive 
software known as inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the 
Macintosh. Several years earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal 
condition that impaired my vision. When I entered  college, most of 
the gear I used was highly tactile: mixing consoles, outboard 
processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time I was preparing 
for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence of this 
glowed from a VGA before me—everything, all under one roof, one box. 
Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and 
little did I know that 20 years later, I’d be so closely involved 
with Pro Tools and its accessibility for blind audio engineers and 
musicians.
After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in 
New York City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly 
planted in the analog multitrack world while occasionally using a 
computer for virtual tracks slaved to tape. As my vision gradually 
grew worse, however, it became more difficult or even impossible to 
perform certain tasks at the studio. LCD displays were dim, VU meters 
were a blur and tweaking outboard gear became tedious. All the while, 
I was experimenting with an LE version of Pro Tools, using the 
outSPOKEN speech synthesizer on my Mac to access it without having to 
look at the screen.
With the introduction of Pro Tools HD, I finally made the jump over 
to the digital world. For several years, everything went well. A 
small community of blind Pro Tools users emerged and shared tips and 
techniques. While the program was almost entirely accessible, the use 
of a control surface proved to be indispensable for efficiency and 
tactile feedback. To me, it felt not that much different from the old 
days, only now I didn’t have to deal with aligning my tape machines 
or worry about one of my console channel strips crapping out in the 
middle of a session.


Around the time that Pro Tools HD was introduced, Apple was touting 
its new OS X operating system. Unfortunately, there was no screen 
reading software available for the new OS, but most blind Pro Tools 
users simply continued using their rigs under the old OS 9. 
Gradually, with Pro Tools’ support of OS X, blind users started 
missing out on newer plug-ins, new virtual instruments and Pro Tools 
features, not to mention all the benefits of OS X.
In 2005, Apple introduced OS X 10.4 Tiger with a built-in screen 
reader known as VoiceOver. This was revolutionary: now a blind user 
could walk up to any Mac running Tiger, press Command-f5 and have the 
computer start speaking. One of the first things I did was purchase 
an upgrade to Pro Tools HD 7.1 to use with Tiger. Unfortunately, when 
I launched the application, the only thing I could access was the 
menu bar. No other windows were readable. With the introduction of 
this built-in 

Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread John André Lium-Netland
Thanks a lot Slau, we all recognize and appreciate your efforts, dedication and 
hard work!!

Best,
John André

On 10 May 2014, at 05:59, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for the Avid 
 blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was published this 
 afternoon at:
 http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-audio-professionals/
 Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read entirely 
 chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post below. There were 
 several photos in the post which are not included below.
 
 
 I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at Five 
 Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid '90s. Most of my early 
 training in college was on large format consoles and multitrack tape 
 machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the day. Computers had 
 certainly found their way into the recording environment nearly a decade 
 earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI sequencers. 
 During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio workstation 
 (DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room and the DAW that 
 led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work with in my senior year. I 
 sat there in front of the monitor, staring at a graphic representation of a 
 waveform, wondering whether the hours I spent learning how to splice 
 quarter-inch tape with razors had been wasted...
 I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one  advanced digital audio class with 
 my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive software known as 
 inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the Macintosh. Several years 
 earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal condition that impaired my 
 vision. When I entered  college, most of the gear I used was highly tactile: 
 mixing consoles, outboard processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time 
 I was preparing for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence 
 of this glowed from a VGA before me--everything, all under one roof, one box. 
 Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and little did I 
 know that 20 years later, I'd be so closely involved with Pro Tools and its 
 accessibility for blind audio engineers and musicians.
 After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in New York 
 City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly planted in the analog 
 multitrack world while occasionally using a computer for virtual tracks 
 slaved to tape. As my vision gradually grew worse, however, it became more 
 difficult or even impossible to perform certain tasks at the studio. LCD 
 displays were dim, VU meters were a blur and tweaking outboard gear became 
 tedious. All the while, I was experimenting with an LE version of Pro Tools, 
 using the outSPOKEN speech synthesizer on my Mac to access it without having 
 to look at the screen. 
 With the introduction of Pro Tools HD, I finally made the jump over to the 
 digital world. For several years, everything went well. A small community of 
 blind Pro Tools users emerged and shared tips and techniques. While the 
 program was almost entirely accessible, the use of a control surface proved 
 to be indispensable for efficiency and tactile feedback. To me, it felt not 
 that much different from the old days, only now I didn't have to deal with 
 aligning my tape machines or worry about one of my console channel strips 
 crapping out in the middle of a session.
 
 Around the time that Pro Tools HD was introduced, Apple was touting its new 
 OS X operating system. Unfortunately, there was no screen reading software 
 available for the new OS, but most blind Pro Tools users simply continued 
 using their rigs under the old OS 9. Gradually, with Pro Tools' support of OS 
 X, blind users started missing out on newer plug-ins, new virtual instruments 
 and Pro Tools features, not to mention all the benefits of OS X. 
 In 2005, Apple introduced OS X 10.4 Tiger with a built-in screen reader known 
 as VoiceOver. This was revolutionary: now a blind user could walk up to any 
 Mac running Tiger, press Command-f5 and have the computer start speaking. One 
 of the first things I did was purchase an upgrade to Pro Tools HD 7.1 to use 
 with Tiger. Unfortunately, when I launched the application, the only thing I 
 could access was the menu bar. No other windows were readable. With the 
 introduction of this built-in screen reader in the new operating system, the 
 accessibility we enjoyed earlier was now broken.
 In 2006, I was invited to visit members of the development team at Avid in 
 Daly City, Calif. I demonstrated the level of accessibility afforded blind 
 users with outSPOKEN under OS 9 versus VoiceOver under OS X. It was clear to 
 everyone that Pro Tools was unusable with VoiceOver and something needed to 
 be done. But it so happened that Pro Tools was about 

RE: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
Slau

 

Great post. It is a wonderful summary of the advances made by Avid and blind
users of Pro Tools in audio production.

 

After spending the last several months as the accessibility programming
engineer, and a blind software engineer at that, I've found that there are a
number of ways to make some graphic information accessible if you have
access to the data that drives that graphic. Granted, much of this is part
of iOS but I suspect that some or maybe even all of it could be done with OS
x. 

 

I won't bore the whole list with some of the technical details that I have
used and have also found pointers for on the net and from Apple but if you
like we could talk about it off list and maybe this could point some of the
engineering staff at Avid down a few new paths.

 

I have been dragging my feet on the upgrade, even though it is free to me,
for a number of reasons the biggest of which is time to play with it. Now
that I have graduated with a shiny new BS in Computer Science it is time to
look into ways I can now apply the knowledge I have gained.

 

Thanks again for a well written post and insight into the use of Pro Tools
by blind and visually impaired professional audio engineers.

 

Best,

J. R. Westmoreland

 

 

 

 

From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Slau Halatyn
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2014 10:00 PM
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: my post on the Avid blog

 

As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for the Avid
blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was published this
afternoon at:

http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-
audio-professionals/

Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read entirely
chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post below. There were
several photos in the post which are not included below.

 

 

I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at Five
Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid '90s. Most of my early
training in college was on large format consoles and multitrack tape
machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the day. Computers had
certainly found their way into the recording environment nearly a decade
earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI sequencers. 

During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio workstation
(DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room and the DAW that
led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work with in my senior year. I
sat there in front of the monitor, staring at a graphic representation of a
waveform, wondering whether the hours I spent learning how to splice
quarter-inch tape with razors had been wasted.

I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one  advanced digital audio class
with my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive software known as
inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the Macintosh. Several years
earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal condition that impaired my
vision. When I entered  college, most of the gear I used was highly tactile:
mixing consoles, outboard processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time
I was preparing for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence
of this glowed from a VGA before me-everything, all under one roof, one box.
Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and little did I
know that 20 years later, I'd be so closely involved with Pro Tools and its
accessibility for blind audio engineers and musicians.

After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in New
York City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly planted in the
analog multitrack world while occasionally using a computer for virtual
tracks slaved to tape. As my vision gradually grew worse, however, it became
more difficult or even impossible to perform certain tasks at the studio.
LCD displays were dim, VU meters were a blur and tweaking outboard gear
became tedious. All the while, I was experimenting with an LE version of Pro
Tools, using the outSPOKEN speech synthesizer on my Mac to access it without
having to look at the screen. 

With the introduction of Pro Tools HD, I finally made the jump over to the
digital world. For several years, everything went well. A small community of
blind Pro Tools users emerged and shared tips and techniques. While the
program was almost entirely accessible, the use of a control surface proved
to be indispensable for efficiency and tactile feedback. To me, it felt not
that much different from the old days, only now I didn't have to deal with
aligning my tape machines or worry about one of my console channel strips
crapping out in the middle of a session.

 

Around the time that Pro Tools HD was introduced, Apple was touting its new
OS X operating system. Unfortunately, there was no screen reading software
available for the new OS, but most blind Pro Tools users simply continued

Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread Slau Halatyn
Thanks all for the kind words about the post. Naturally, it's a team effort 
from Ed and others at Avid to the other beta testers (Vinny, Mike  Chuck) to 
the programmers in Ukraine. We're still on a long journey but a steady one for 
now. This was to raise awareness through social media and it's being promoted 
pretty widely. Good stuff.

Slau

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Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread Byron Harden
Awesome thank you sir, amazing blog.

Thank youSent from 

 On May 9, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for the Avid 
 blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was published this 
 afternoon at:
 http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-audio-professionals/
 Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read entirely 
 chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post below. There were 
 several photos in the post which are not included below.
 
 
 I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at Five 
 Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid ’90s. Most of my early 
 training in college was on large format consoles and multitrack tape 
 machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the day. Computers had 
 certainly found their way into the recording environment nearly a decade 
 earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI sequencers. 
 During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio workstation 
 (DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room and the DAW that 
 led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work with in my senior year. I 
 sat there in front of the monitor, staring at a graphic representation of a 
 waveform, wondering whether the hours I spent learning how to splice 
 quarter-inch tape with razors had been wasted…
 I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one  advanced digital audio class with 
 my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive software known as 
 inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the Macintosh. Several years 
 earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal condition that impaired my 
 vision. When I entered  college, most of the gear I used was highly tactile: 
 mixing consoles, outboard processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time 
 I was preparing for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence 
 of this glowed from a VGA before me—everything, all under one roof, one box. 
 Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and little did I 
 know that 20 years later, I’d be so closely involved with Pro Tools and its 
 accessibility for blind audio engineers and musicians.
 After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in New York 
 City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly planted in the analog 
 multitrack world while occasionally using a computer for virtual tracks 
 slaved to tape. As my vision gradually grew worse, however, it became more 
 difficult or even impossible to perform certain tasks at the studio. LCD 
 displays were dim, VU meters were a blur and tweaking outboard gear became 
 tedious. All the while, I was experimenting with an LE version of Pro Tools, 
 using the outSPOKEN speech synthesizer on my Mac to access it without having 
 to look at the screen. 
 With the introduction of Pro Tools HD, I finally made the jump over to the 
 digital world. For several years, everything went well. A small community of 
 blind Pro Tools users emerged and shared tips and techniques. While the 
 program was almost entirely accessible, the use of a control surface proved 
 to be indispensable for efficiency and tactile feedback. To me, it felt not 
 that much different from the old days, only now I didn’t have to deal with 
 aligning my tape machines or worry about one of my console channel strips 
 crapping out in the middle of a session.
 
 Around the time that Pro Tools HD was introduced, Apple was touting its new 
 OS X operating system. Unfortunately, there was no screen reading software 
 available for the new OS, but most blind Pro Tools users simply continued 
 using their rigs under the old OS 9. Gradually, with Pro Tools’ support of OS 
 X, blind users started missing out on newer plug-ins, new virtual instruments 
 and Pro Tools features, not to mention all the benefits of OS X. 
 In 2005, Apple introduced OS X 10.4 Tiger with a built-in screen reader known 
 as VoiceOver. This was revolutionary: now a blind user could walk up to any 
 Mac running Tiger, press Command-f5 and have the computer start speaking. One 
 of the first things I did was purchase an upgrade to Pro Tools HD 7.1 to use 
 with Tiger. Unfortunately, when I launched the application, the only thing I 
 could access was the menu bar. No other windows were readable. With the 
 introduction of this built-in screen reader in the new operating system, the 
 accessibility we enjoyed earlier was now broken.
 In 2006, I was invited to visit members of the development team at Avid in 
 Daly City, Calif. I demonstrated the level of accessibility afforded blind 
 users with outSPOKEN under OS 9 versus VoiceOver under OS X. It was clear to 
 everyone that Pro Tools was unusable with VoiceOver and something needed to 
 be done. But it so happened that Pro Tools was about to undergo a major 
 change in the way the graphic 

Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread Keith Reedy
Slau and the gang,

You have given accessibility a big push and have done it well.

My thanks to all of you.
kr
We print the Bible in Braille,
http://biblesfortheblind.org
Keith Reedy
God gives His best to those who leave the choice with Him.  J Hudson Taylor.






On May 10, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks all for the kind words about the post. Naturally, it's a team effort 
 from Ed and others at Avid to the other beta testers (Vinny, Mike  Chuck) to 
 the programmers in Ukraine. We're still on a long journey but a steady one 
 for now. This was to raise awareness through social media and it's being 
 promoted pretty widely. Good stuff.
 
 Slau
 
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Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread Steve Sparrow
thank you for a very informative run down on the developments of the advances 
of accessibility with protools. I have not purchased tools as yet, but it is 
only a matter of weeks away. been learning voice over on the mac over the last 
few weeks. It's great to know that accessibility is in good hands with avid. 
Really looking forward to taking the protools journey.
Thanks again
Steve Sparrow

On 10 May 2014, at 1:59 pm, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for the Avid 
 blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was published this 
 afternoon at:
 http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-audio-professionals/
 Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read entirely 
 chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post below. There were 
 several photos in the post which are not included below.
 
 
 I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at Five 
 Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid '90s. Most of my early 
 training in college was on large format consoles and multitrack tape 
 machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the day. Computers had 
 certainly found their way into the recording environment nearly a decade 
 earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI sequencers. 
 During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio workstation 
 (DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room and the DAW that 
 led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work with in my senior year. I 
 sat there in front of the monitor, staring at a graphic representation of a 
 waveform, wondering whether the hours I spent learning how to splice 
 quarter-inch tape with razors had been wasted...
 I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one  advanced digital audio class with 
 my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive software known as 
 inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the Macintosh. Several years 
 earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal condition that impaired my 
 vision. When I entered  college, most of the gear I used was highly tactile: 
 mixing consoles, outboard processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time 
 I was preparing for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence 
 of this glowed from a VGA before me--everything, all under one roof, one box. 
 Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and little did I 
 know that 20 years later, I'd be so closely involved with Pro Tools and its 
 accessibility for blind audio engineers and musicians.
 After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in New York 
 City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly planted in the analog 
 multitrack world while occasionally using a computer for virtual tracks 
 slaved to tape. As my vision gradually grew worse, however, it became more 
 difficult or even impossible to perform certain tasks at the studio. LCD 
 displays were dim, VU meters were a blur and tweaking outboard gear became 
 tedious. All the while, I was experimenting with an LE version of Pro Tools, 
 using the outSPOKEN speech synthesizer on my Mac to access it without having 
 to look at the screen. 
 With the introduction of Pro Tools HD, I finally made the jump over to the 
 digital world. For several years, everything went well. A small community of 
 blind Pro Tools users emerged and shared tips and techniques. While the 
 program was almost entirely accessible, the use of a control surface proved 
 to be indispensable for efficiency and tactile feedback. To me, it felt not 
 that much different from the old days, only now I didn't have to deal with 
 aligning my tape machines or worry about one of my console channel strips 
 crapping out in the middle of a session.
 
 Around the time that Pro Tools HD was introduced, Apple was touting its new 
 OS X operating system. Unfortunately, there was no screen reading software 
 available for the new OS, but most blind Pro Tools users simply continued 
 using their rigs under the old OS 9. Gradually, with Pro Tools' support of OS 
 X, blind users started missing out on newer plug-ins, new virtual instruments 
 and Pro Tools features, not to mention all the benefits of OS X. 
 In 2005, Apple introduced OS X 10.4 Tiger with a built-in screen reader known 
 as VoiceOver. This was revolutionary: now a blind user could walk up to any 
 Mac running Tiger, press Command-f5 and have the computer start speaking. One 
 of the first things I did was purchase an upgrade to Pro Tools HD 7.1 to use 
 with Tiger. Unfortunately, when I launched the application, the only thing I 
 could access was the menu bar. No other windows were readable. With the 
 introduction of this built-in screen reader in the new operating system, the 
 accessibility we enjoyed earlier was now broken.
 In 2006, I was invited to visit members of the development team at Avid in 
 

Re: my post on the Avid blog

2014-05-10 Thread Gordon Kent
Hey Slau:
that's a great summary of how things have evolved with PT.  Frankly, the only 
reason I need to stick with Sonar and windows is that I have such a huge 
library of sampled instruments that I have done that use the SFZ format.   At 
present, there is no aax SFZ player available for the Mac.  When we wer using 
RTAS the garritan engine which does support SFZ worked with Pro Tools, but 
nobody could tell me how to refer to the Mac folder structure in an SFZ 
definition file.  I tried putting the definitions and their associated .wav 
files in all kinds of folders but never got them to work, and now Garritan has 
pretty emphatically stated on their site that they have no plans to convert to 
the AAX format, which is rediculous since so many others have.  If we could get 
access to structure, the SFZ files could be converted to sound fonts and loaded 
into structure.  At this point, as far as instruments that are bundled with Pro 
tools are concerned, Structure is the real drawback for us.  A good usable 
sampler is a very important part of the production environment, especially for 
those of us who want to mix and match drum kits, custom sample instruments to 
our taste, and process vocals through synth modulators  etc.  I hope they 
haven't forgotten about this, as I said, it's really one  of the only reasons I 
haven't totally switched over to Pro Tools for the kind of stuff I do.  But 
know that I sincerely apreciate what you've done, I've gone through the same 
thing with my many years of association with cakewalk, which has put a lot of 
blind folks to independent work.  
Gord
On May 9, 2014, at 11:59 PM, Slau Halatyn slauhala...@gmail.com wrote:

 As some of you may already know, I was asked to write something for the Avid 
 blog regarding Pro Tools accessibility. The article was published this 
 afternoon at:
 http://www.avidblogs.com/music-daw-software-for-blind-and-visually-impaired-audio-professionals/
 Because of the way the story is laid out, it appears not to read entirely 
 chronologically. So, I've pasted the contents of that post below. There were 
 several photos in the post which are not included below.
 
 
 I was introduced to Pro Tools while enrolled in the audio program at Five 
 Towns College in Dix Hills, New York, during the mid '90s. Most of my early 
 training in college was on large format consoles and multitrack tape 
 machines, which were de rigueur in the studios of the day. Computers had 
 certainly found their way into the recording environment nearly a decade 
 earlier, but more so in the role of MIDI sequencers. 
 During the years I was in school, however, the digital audio workstation 
 (DAW) had gotten its foot in the door of the control room and the DAW that 
 led the way was Pro Tools, which I began to work with in my senior year. I 
 sat there in front of the monitor, staring at a graphic representation of a 
 waveform, wondering whether the hours I spent learning how to splice 
 quarter-inch tape with razors had been wasted...
 I had the advantage of taking a one-on-one  advanced digital audio class with 
 my professor as a result of my need to use adaptive software known as 
 inLARGE, a screen magnifying program for the Macintosh. Several years 
 earlier, I had been diagnosed with a retinal condition that impaired my 
 vision. When I entered  college, most of the gear I used was highly tactile: 
 mixing consoles, outboard processors, tape machine remotes, etc. By the time 
 I was preparing for graduation, things had already begun to change. Evidence 
 of this glowed from a VGA before me--everything, all under one roof, one box. 
 Little did I know that this was the paradigm of the future, and little did I 
 know that 20 years later, I'd be so closely involved with Pro Tools and its 
 accessibility for blind audio engineers and musicians.
 After graduation I started a recording studio of my own, BeSharp, in New York 
 City and for a number of years I kept one foot firmly planted in the analog 
 multitrack world while occasionally using a computer for virtual tracks 
 slaved to tape. As my vision gradually grew worse, however, it became more 
 difficult or even impossible to perform certain tasks at the studio. LCD 
 displays were dim, VU meters were a blur and tweaking outboard gear became 
 tedious. All the while, I was experimenting with an LE version of Pro Tools, 
 using the outSPOKEN speech synthesizer on my Mac to access it without having 
 to look at the screen. 
 With the introduction of Pro Tools HD, I finally made the jump over to the 
 digital world. For several years, everything went well. A small community of 
 blind Pro Tools users emerged and shared tips and techniques. While the 
 program was almost entirely accessible, the use of a control surface proved 
 to be indispensable for efficiency and tactile feedback. To me, it felt not 
 that much different from the old days, only now I didn't have to deal with 
 aligning my tape machines or worry