RE: Selecting in clips table

2016-04-26 Thread Martin (Punky) Sopart 
Hello Peter!

Did you try VO+Shift+Space and VO+Command+F5 before (depending on your VO mouse 
settings).

Best! / Martin
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> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Peter Bosher
> Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2016 4:34 PM
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Selecting in clips table
> 
> Hi Slau and thanks as ever, both those editing options are checked, as well as
> the relevant ones in the Options menu for selection following time line.  I'll
> just have one more go at explaining the problem:
> 
> Starting with nothing selected, in a session where there are a series of 
> clips,
> all on one track, in sequence along the time line. I go into the clips table, 
> and
> identify the clip I need.  It's a virgin clip with no editing yet.  I hit 
> VO-space on
> it, and VO now reports that it's selected.  If I stop interacting with the 
> table,
> VO still reports the selection, e.g. row 79 of 83.   But the selection start 
> point
> hasn't moved from where it was, and I have no way to hear that clip, or move
> to it in the time line.
> 
> This procedure worked fine on a PT10 machine, with the same session and
> same preferences.   Is there any obvious step I'm missing, or another way
> round?  It's looking like a sticking point at the moment so I really need to 
> sort
> it somehow.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Peter
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Slau Halatyn
> Sent: 26 April 2016 14:49
> To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Selecting in clips table
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> In the Editing tab of the Preferences window, make sure the first two
> checkboxes are checked. This will ensure that anything selected in either the
> timeline or the clips list will be mutually affected.
> 
> Here's one important thing to consider. When you have a clip that you've
> imported into a new track in a session or even an existing clip that was
> recorded within the timeline, as soon as you make one edit, Pro Tools will, by
> default, create at least one more clip in the clips list. Each subsequent edit
> does the same. this means that, when you select a clip that has been even
> slightly edited in the timeline (let's say you just trimmed some silence from
> the beginning), the clip that will now be selected in the clips list will not 
> be
> the first one but, most likely the second or third one down (depending on
> how you edited the clip.
> 
> The opposite scenario is an equal consideration. In other words, if you have
> edited a clip in any way whatsoever, there will be at least two instances of
> the clip in the clips list. Let's say you click on the first instance of that 
> clip,
> since the actual clip in the timeline matches the second or third clip in the
> clips list, selecting the first clip in the list will not select anything in 
> the
> timeline because that unedited clip doesn't really reside in the timeline but
> rather an edited version of it.
> 
> Pay attention to the name of the clip and what's appended to the name of
> the clip. When there's an underline following the name, that signifies the
> chronological clip number as it was recorded in time. This means the order in
> which it was created and not the order in which it appears. In other words, if
> you start recording your first clip from the 3 minute mark and then back up
> and record a second clip starting from the 1 minute mark, the clip that
> appears at the 1 minute mark will have "_02 " appended to it and the original
> clip recorded at the 3 minute mark will have "_01" in its file name.
> Beyond the underlined numbers, if the clip has been edited in any way, Pro
> Tools will append a hyphen along with a number to indicate that the clip has
> been edited. Let's say you recorded a clip and its name was "Vocal_01." If
> you were to split the clip in half, the first new clip would be called 
> "Vocal_01-
> 01" and the second half would become "Vocal_01-02." If you were to then
> simply delete a portion of the second clip, the remaining clip in the timeline
> would be called "vocal_01-03." All the while, a copy of each clip would reside
> in the clips list. If you want to cut down on the number of clips in the 
> clips list,
> you can remove them by selecting unused clips from the clips list pop-up
> menu and either using Command-b or the Clear key on the numeric keypad.
> You'll have the option of deleting or removing. The ramifications of these
> various options are fairly detailed so I won't go into it here but, hopefully,
> what I've explained will help.
> 
> Slau
&

RE: Selecting in clips table

2016-04-26 Thread Peter Bosher 
Hi Slau and thanks as ever, both those editing options are checked, as well as 
the relevant ones in the Options menu for selection following time line.  I'll 
just have one more go at explaining the problem:

Starting with nothing selected, in a session where there are a series of clips, 
all on one track, in sequence along the time line. I go into the clips table, 
and identify the clip I need.  It's a virgin clip with no editing yet.  I hit 
VO-space on it, and VO now reports that it's selected.  If I stop interacting 
with the table, VO still reports the selection, e.g. row 79 of 83.   But the 
selection start point hasn't moved from where it was, and I have no way to hear 
that clip, or move to it in the time line.

This procedure worked fine on a PT10 machine, with the same session and same 
preferences.   Is there any obvious step I'm missing, or another way round?  
It's looking like a sticking point at the moment so I really need to sort it 
somehow.

Best,

Peter

-Original Message-
From: ptaccess@googlegroups.com [mailto:ptaccess@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Slau Halatyn
Sent: 26 April 2016 14:49
To: ptaccess@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Selecting in clips table

Hi Peter,

In the Editing tab of the Preferences window, make sure the first two 
checkboxes are checked. This will ensure that anything selected in either the 
timeline or the clips list will be mutually affected.

Here's one important thing to consider. When you have a clip that you've 
imported into a new track in a session or even an existing clip that was 
recorded within the timeline, as soon as you make one edit, Pro Tools will, by 
default, create at least one more clip in the clips list. Each subsequent edit 
does the same. this means that, when you select a clip that has been even 
slightly edited in the timeline (let's say you just trimmed some silence from 
the beginning), the clip that will now be selected in the clips list will not 
be the first one but, most likely the second or third one down (depending on 
how you edited the clip.

The opposite scenario is an equal consideration. In other words, if you have 
edited a clip in any way whatsoever, there will be at least two instances of 
the clip in the clips list. Let's say you click on the first instance of that 
clip, since the actual clip in the timeline matches the second or third clip in 
the clips list, selecting the first clip in the list will not select anything 
in the timeline because that unedited clip doesn't really reside in the 
timeline but rather an edited version of it.

Pay attention to the name of the clip and what's appended to the name of the 
clip. When there's an underline following the name, that signifies the 
chronological clip number as it was recorded in time. This means the order in 
which it was created and not the order in which it appears. In other words, if 
you start recording your first clip from the 3 minute mark and then back up and 
record a second clip starting from the 1 minute mark, the clip that appears at 
the 1 minute mark will have "_02 " appended to it and the original clip 
recorded at the 3 minute mark will have "_01" in its file name.
Beyond the underlined numbers, if the clip has been edited in any way, Pro 
Tools will append a hyphen along with a number to indicate that the clip has 
been edited. Let's say you recorded a clip and its name was "Vocal_01." If you 
were to split the clip in half, the first new clip would be called 
"Vocal_01-01" and the second half would become "Vocal_01-02." If you were to 
then simply delete a portion of the second clip, the remaining clip in the 
timeline would be called "vocal_01-03." All the while, a copy of each clip 
would reside in the clips list. If you want to cut down on the number of clips 
in the clips list, you can remove them by selecting unused clips from the clips 
list pop-up menu and either using Command-b or the Clear key on the numeric 
keypad. You'll have the option of deleting or removing. The ramifications of 
these various options are fairly detailed so I won't go into it here but, 
hopefully, what I've explained will help.

Slau

On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Peter Bosher <peter.bos...@bbc.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I really need to find a reliable way to select a clip from the clips table, 
> and jump to that point on the time line.
> 
> On one machine running pT10 this is perfectly easy.  You find the clip in the 
> table, press VO-space, and that jumps you to the corresponding clip and 
> selects it.   All good, but on PT 12 machines this doesn't work at all.  I 
> have checked both the options "link time line and edit selection", and "Link 
> track and edit selection", as per a previous message.
> 
> If you know a way to select a clip, ideally audition it, and then get to it 
> on the time line, I'd really appreciate a

Re: Selecting in clips table

2016-04-26 Thread Slau Halatyn 
Hi Peter,

In the Editing tab of the Preferences window, make sure the first two 
checkboxes are checked. This will ensure that anything selected in either the 
timeline or the clips list will be mutually affected.

Here's one important thing to consider. When you have a clip that you've 
imported into a new track in a session or even an existing clip that was 
recorded within the timeline, as soon as you make one edit, Pro Tools will, by 
default, create at least one more clip in the clips list. Each subsequent edit 
does the same. this means that, when you select a clip that has been even 
slightly edited in the timeline (let's say you just trimmed some silence from 
the beginning), the clip that will now be selected in the clips list will not 
be the first one but, most likely the second or third one down (depending on 
how you edited the clip.

The opposite scenario is an equal consideration. In other words, if you have 
edited a clip in any way whatsoever, there will be at least two instances of 
the clip in the clips list. Let's say you click on the first instance of that 
clip, since the actual clip in the timeline matches the second or third clip in 
the clips list, selecting the first clip in the list will not select anything 
in the timeline because that unedited clip doesn't really reside in the 
timeline but rather an edited version of it.

Pay attention to the name of the clip and what's appended to the name of the 
clip. When there's an underline following the name, that signifies the 
chronological clip number as it was recorded in time. This means the order in 
which it was created and not the order in which it appears. In other words, if 
you start recording your first clip from the 3 minute mark and then back up and 
record a second clip starting from the 1 minute mark, the clip that appears at 
the 1 minute mark will have "_02 " appended to it and the original clip 
recorded at the 3 minute mark will have "_01" in its file name.
Beyond the underlined numbers, if the clip has been edited in any way, Pro 
Tools will append a hyphen along with a number to indicate that the clip has 
been edited. Let's say you recorded a clip and its name was "Vocal_01." If you 
were to split the clip in half, the first new clip would be called 
"Vocal_01-01" and the second half would become "Vocal_01-02." If you were to 
then simply delete a portion of the second clip, the remaining clip in the 
timeline would be called "vocal_01-03." All the while, a copy of each clip 
would reside in the clips list. If you want to cut down on the number of clips 
in the clips list, you can remove them by selecting unused clips from the clips 
list pop-up menu and either using Command-b or the Clear key on the numeric 
keypad. You'll have the option of deleting or removing. The ramifications of 
these various options are fairly detailed so I won't go into it here but, 
hopefully, what I've explained will help.

Slau

On Apr 26, 2016, at 6:51 AM, Peter Bosher  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> I really need to find a reliable way to select a clip from the clips table, 
> and jump to that point on the time line.
> 
> On one machine running pT10 this is perfectly easy.  You find the clip in the 
> table, press VO-space, and that jumps you to the corresponding clip and 
> selects it.   All good, but on PT 12 machines this doesn't work at all.  I 
> have checked both the options "link time line and edit selection", and "Link 
> track and edit selection", as per a previous message.
> 
> If you know a way to select a clip, ideally audition it, and then get to it 
> on the time line, I'd really appreciate a pointer please.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Peter
> 
> 
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Selecting in clips table

2016-04-26 Thread Peter Bosher 
Hi All,

I really need to find a reliable way to select a clip from the clips table, and 
jump to that point on the time line.

On one machine running pT10 this is perfectly easy.  You find the clip in the 
table, press VO-space, and that jumps you to the corresponding clip and selects 
it.   All good, but on PT 12 machines this doesn't work at all.  I have checked 
both the options "link time line and edit selection", and "Link track and edit 
selection", as per a previous message.

If you know a way to select a clip, ideally audition it, and then get to it on 
the time line, I'd really appreciate a pointer please.

Best,

Peter



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