Re: Where's the mouse?

['Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

Hey there,
Thanks you guys. Slau, I'll keep your tipps in mind. As has been stated before, 
the modified clicks are so useful and speed up work so much.

Joy



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> Am 15.08.2016 um 16:20 schrieb Slau Halatyn :
> 
> Hi Joy and Sean,
> 
> Yes, the mouse pointer focus is sometimes quirky at best and intolerable at 
> worst. Apple still hasn’t gotten it exactly right in that respect. As always, 
> one has to be diligent about making sure things aren’t obscured by floating 
> windows, dialogs, etc. The other day I realized that there was a system 
> dialog that popped up unannounced and, of course, when bringing up the window 
> Chooser menu, it didn’t appear in the list so I wasn’t aware of it at first. 
> Man, sometimes you’ve gotta be a hawk, a blind hawk, to paint an ironic 
> picture. Another thing you can try is saving the session, quitting Pro Tools 
> and rebooting VoiceOver. I’ve found that this also helps when Pro Tools seems 
> to loose focus with track selections. I mentioned it in the recent MIDI Event 
> List mp3 thingy. Lastly, (and I’d do this even before necessarily 
> restarting), it often helps to assign one send, for example, or an output 
> assignment in the output window which will open the respective output/send 
> windows. From there, you can use clicks and modified clicks to apply to all 
> or selected tracks. For me, that method has never failed, not even once.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> Slau
> 
>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 5:12 AM, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hey guys,
>> here's something I'd like your thoughts on, and as the subject states, it 
>> concerns mouse-behaviour in PT. 
>> Example scenario: I create 10 tracks to record a drum set. Now i want to do 
>> various things to all these tracks, like create additional playlists, or 
>> route them to respective ins and outs.
>> Ideally, i can use modifiers shift plus Option to apply changes to selected 
>> tracks. Now, this works for a while, but then, for a reason I haven't been 
>> able to define, the mouse-focus gets lost, and when executing a shortcut i 
>> land anywhere but on the desired object.
>> Does anyone have a solution for this? How can i get the mouse back on focus. 
>> The usual VO-commands are not working, like VO-Command-f5.
>> I find those mouse-based shortcuts super useful, so I don't like the idea of 
>> them not bein reliable, so I'd appreciate any help on this.
>> 
>> Joy
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: Where's the mouse?

[Slau Halatyn]

Hi Joy and Sean,

Yes, the mouse pointer focus is sometimes quirky at best and intolerable at 
worst. Apple still hasn’t gotten it exactly right in that respect. As always, 
one has to be diligent about making sure things aren’t obscured by floating 
windows, dialogs, etc. The other day I realized that there was a system dialog 
that popped up unannounced and, of course, when bringing up the window Chooser 
menu, it didn’t appear in the list so I wasn’t aware of it at first. Man, 
sometimes you’ve gotta be a hawk, a blind hawk, to paint an ironic picture. 
Another thing you can try is saving the session, quitting Pro Tools and 
rebooting VoiceOver. I’ve found that this also helps when Pro Tools seems to 
loose focus with track selections. I mentioned it in the recent MIDI Event List 
mp3 thingy. Lastly, (and I’d do this even before necessarily restarting), it 
often helps to assign one send, for example, or an output assignment in the 
output window which will open the respective output/send windows. From there, 
you can use clicks and modified clicks to apply to all or selected tracks. For 
me, that method has never failed, not even once.

Hope that helps,
Slau

> On Aug 15, 2016, at 5:12 AM, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> here's something I'd like your thoughts on, and as the subject states, it 
> concerns mouse-behaviour in PT. 
> Example scenario: I create 10 tracks to record a drum set. Now i want to do 
> various things to all these tracks, like create additional playlists, or 
> route them to respective ins and outs.
> Ideally, i can use modifiers shift plus Option to apply changes to selected 
> tracks. Now, this works for a while, but then, for a reason I haven't been 
> able to define, the mouse-focus gets lost, and when executing a shortcut i 
> land anywhere but on the desired object.
> Does anyone have a solution for this? How can i get the mouse back on focus. 
> The usual VO-commands are not working, like VO-Command-f5.
> I find those mouse-based shortcuts super useful, so I don't like the idea of 
> them not bein reliable, so I'd appreciate any help on this.
> 
> Joy
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Where's the mouse?

[CHUCK REICHEL]

Hi Sean,
When El Capitan and pt 12.5 act up I restart VO and most of the time all is 
cool!
I also use a pt activity to insure "quick nav" stays off.
HTH
Chuck


On Aug 15, 2016, at 6:37 AM, Sean A. Cummins wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> OK, I’m on the path to finding out exactly what’s going on with my
> system as well.  Like you, sometimes it’s working fine, and then the
> next minute, voila!  The mouse is off on its own merry way.  All I
> know is that like you, routing the mouse back doesn’t always work.
> Stability is so imperative.
> 
> I have had sighted help, and when watching me navigate the mouse
> pointer, it will often rocket out of Pro Tools and be buried in the
> lower right hands side of the Doc and or Desktop.  And moving mouse to
> Voiceover, results in the same action.
> 
> Perhaps Slau will chime in here with his proverbial words of wisdom!  Grin!
> 
> 
> On 8/15/16, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility
>  wrote:
>> Hi Sean,
>> i'm running Yosemite, and PT 12.4. I should also mention that I'm using a
>> MacBook Pro, so when I say mouse I mean the TrackPad.
>> 
>> Joy
>> 
>> 
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>> 
>>> Am 15.08.2016 um 11:39 schrieb Sean A. Cummins :
>>> 
>>> What version of the Mack OS are you using? I ask because I have been
>>> experiencing the same types of anomalies. I suspect it may be related to
>>> El Capitan.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> So forgive my brevity!
>>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 2:12 AM, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> here's something I'd like your thoughts on, and as the subject states, it
>>> concerns mouse-behaviour in PT.
>>> Example scenario: I create 10 tracks to record a drum set. Now i want to
>>> do various things to all these tracks, like create additional playlists,
>>> or route them to respective ins and outs.
>>> Ideally, i can use modifiers shift plus Option to apply changes to
>>> selected tracks. Now, this works for a while, but then, for a reason I
>>> haven't been able to define, the mouse-focus gets lost, and when executing
>>> a shortcut i land anywhere but on the desired object.
>>> Does anyone have a solution for this? How can i get the mouse back on
>>> focus. The usual VO-commands are not working, like VO-Command-f5.
>>> I find those mouse-based shortcuts super useful, so I don't like the idea
>>> of them not bein reliable, so I'd appreciate any help on this.
>>> 
>>> Joy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Where's the mouse?

['Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

Sean, that's exactly what happens. I land in the Finder, or alternatively open 
the Apple menu.
Also, when i want to route tracks to outputs, it works fine first, and then the 
mouse tends to get stuck on the sends-menu, from which i can't make it move 
again.

Joy


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> Am 15.08.2016 um 12:37 schrieb Sean A. Cummins :
> 
> Hi,
> 
> OK, I’m on the path to finding out exactly what’s going on with my
> system as well.  Like you, sometimes it’s working fine, and then the
> next minute, voila!  The mouse is off on its own merry way.  All I
> know is that like you, routing the mouse back doesn’t always work.
> Stability is so imperative.
> 
> I have had sighted help, and when watching me navigate the mouse
> pointer, it will often rocket out of Pro Tools and be buried in the
> lower right hands side of the Doc and or Desktop.  And moving mouse to
> Voiceover, results in the same action.
> 
> Perhaps Slau will chime in here with his proverbial words of wisdom!  Grin!
> 
> 
> On 8/15/16, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility
>  wrote:
>> Hi Sean,
>> i'm running Yosemite, and PT 12.4. I should also mention that I'm using a
>> MacBook Pro, so when I say mouse I mean the TrackPad.
>> 
>> Joy
>> 
>> 
>> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>> 
>>> Am 15.08.2016 um 11:39 schrieb Sean A. Cummins :
>>> 
>>> What version of the Mack OS are you using? I ask because I have been
>>> experiencing the same types of anomalies. I suspect it may be related to
>>> El Capitan.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Sean
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> So forgive my brevity!
>>> 
>>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 2:12 AM, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey guys,
>>> here's something I'd like your thoughts on, and as the subject states, it
>>> concerns mouse-behaviour in PT.
>>> Example scenario: I create 10 tracks to record a drum set. Now i want to
>>> do various things to all these tracks, like create additional playlists,
>>> or route them to respective ins and outs.
>>> Ideally, i can use modifiers shift plus Option to apply changes to
>>> selected tracks. Now, this works for a while, but then, for a reason I
>>> haven't been able to define, the mouse-focus gets lost, and when executing
>>> a shortcut i land anywhere but on the desired object.
>>> Does anyone have a solution for this? How can i get the mouse back on
>>> focus. The usual VO-commands are not working, like VO-Command-f5.
>>> I find those mouse-based shortcuts super useful, so I don't like the idea
>>> of them not bein reliable, so I'd appreciate any help on this.
>>> 
>>> Joy
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: Where's the mouse?

[Sean A. Cummins]

Hi,

OK, I’m on the path to finding out exactly what’s going on with my
system as well.  Like you, sometimes it’s working fine, and then the
next minute, voila!  The mouse is off on its own merry way.  All I
know is that like you, routing the mouse back doesn’t always work.
Stability is so imperative.

I have had sighted help, and when watching me navigate the mouse
pointer, it will often rocket out of Pro Tools and be buried in the
lower right hands side of the Doc and or Desktop.  And moving mouse to
Voiceover, results in the same action.

Perhaps Slau will chime in here with his proverbial words of wisdom!  Grin!


On 8/15/16, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility
 wrote:
> Hi Sean,
> i'm running Yosemite, and PT 12.4. I should also mention that I'm using a
> MacBook Pro, so when I say mouse I mean the TrackPad.
>
> Joy
>
>
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
>> Am 15.08.2016 um 11:39 schrieb Sean A. Cummins :
>>
>> What version of the Mack OS are you using? I ask because I have been
>> experiencing the same types of anomalies. I suspect it may be related to
>> El Capitan.
>>
>> Take care,
>>
>> Sean
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> So forgive my brevity!
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2016, at 2:12 AM, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Hey guys,
>> here's something I'd like your thoughts on, and as the subject states, it
>> concerns mouse-behaviour in PT.
>> Example scenario: I create 10 tracks to record a drum set. Now i want to
>> do various things to all these tracks, like create additional playlists,
>> or route them to respective ins and outs.
>> Ideally, i can use modifiers shift plus Option to apply changes to
>> selected tracks. Now, this works for a while, but then, for a reason I
>> haven't been able to define, the mouse-focus gets lost, and when executing
>> a shortcut i land anywhere but on the desired object.
>> Does anyone have a solution for this? How can i get the mouse back on
>> focus. The usual VO-commands are not working, like VO-Command-f5.
>> I find those mouse-based shortcuts super useful, so I don't like the idea
>> of them not bein reliable, so I'd appreciate any help on this.
>>
>> Joy
>>
>>
>>
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Re: Where's the mouse?

['Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

Hi Sean,
i'm running Yosemite, and PT 12.4. I should also mention that I'm using a 
MacBook Pro, so when I say mouse I mean the TrackPad.

Joy


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> Am 15.08.2016 um 11:39 schrieb Sean A. Cummins :
> 
> What version of the Mack OS are you using? I ask because I have been 
> experiencing the same types of anomalies. I suspect it may be related to El 
> Capitan.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Sean
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> So forgive my brevity!
> 
> On Aug 15, 2016, at 2:12 AM, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hey guys,
> here's something I'd like your thoughts on, and as the subject states, it 
> concerns mouse-behaviour in PT. 
> Example scenario: I create 10 tracks to record a drum set. Now i want to do 
> various things to all these tracks, like create additional playlists, or 
> route them to respective ins and outs.
> Ideally, i can use modifiers shift plus Option to apply changes to selected 
> tracks. Now, this works for a while, but then, for a reason I haven't been 
> able to define, the mouse-focus gets lost, and when executing a shortcut i 
> land anywhere but on the desired object.
> Does anyone have a solution for this? How can i get the mouse back on focus. 
> The usual VO-commands are not working, like VO-Command-f5.
> I find those mouse-based shortcuts super useful, so I don't like the idea of 
> them not bein reliable, so I'd appreciate any help on this.
> 
> Joy
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Where's the mouse?

[Sean A. Cummins]

What version of the Mack OS are you using? I ask because I have been 
experiencing the same types of anomalies. I suspect it may be related to El 
Capitan.

Take care,

Sean

 Sent from my iPhone

So forgive my brevity!

On Aug 15, 2016, at 2:12 AM, 'Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility 
 wrote:

Hey guys,
here's something I'd like your thoughts on, and as the subject states, it 
concerns mouse-behaviour in PT. 
Example scenario: I create 10 tracks to record a drum set. Now i want to do 
various things to all these tracks, like create additional playlists, or route 
them to respective ins and outs.
Ideally, i can use modifiers shift plus Option to apply changes to selected 
tracks. Now, this works for a while, but then, for a reason I haven't been able 
to define, the mouse-focus gets lost, and when executing a shortcut i land 
anywhere but on the desired object.
Does anyone have a solution for this? How can i get the mouse back on focus. 
The usual VO-commands are not working, like VO-Command-f5.
I find those mouse-based shortcuts super useful, so I don't like the idea of 
them not bein reliable, so I'd appreciate any help on this.

Joy



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Where's the mouse?

['Joy Bausch' via Pro Tools Accessibility]

Hey guys,
here's something I'd like your thoughts on, and as the subject states, it 
concerns mouse-behaviour in PT. 
Example scenario: I create 10 tracks to record a drum set. Now i want to do 
various things to all these tracks, like create additional playlists, or route 
them to respective ins and outs.
Ideally, i can use modifiers shift plus Option to apply changes to selected 
tracks. Now, this works for a while, but then, for a reason I haven't been able 
to define, the mouse-focus gets lost, and when executing a shortcut i land 
anywhere but on the desired object.
Does anyone have a solution for this? How can i get the mouse back on focus. 
The usual VO-commands are not working, like VO-Command-f5.
I find those mouse-based shortcuts super useful, so I don't like the idea of 
them not bein reliable, so I'd appreciate any help on this.

Joy



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