off topic, Ableton Live
Hi friends, I'm looking for a tool to do loop based music in a Live improvisation situation, with the ability to record, add, delete, edit audio and midi loops and tracks within loops on the fly. Of course, Ableton would be the ideal tool for this, but I don't it has ever been made accessible. I'd like to know if someone knows a way to achieve this for the blind, with or without voiceover Cheers, JPR. > http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: off topic, Ableton Live
Sonar's Matrix view does pretty much all that ableton does. Plus a few things that Ableton doesn't do which I can't remember at the moment. You would have to spend a lot of time in setting it up, but you would have to do that in Ableton as well. HF On 8/17/2011 8:23 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Hi friends, I'm looking for a tool to do loop based music in a Live improvisation situation, with the ability to record, add, delete, edit audio and midi loops and tracks within loops on the fly. Of course, Ableton would be the ideal tool for this, but I don't it has ever been made accessible. I'd like to know if someone knows a way to achieve this for the blind, with or without voiceover Cheers, JPR. http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: off topic, Ableton Live
Hey Herman and all, Sonar's matrix view is cool, but from what I watched en youtube, you can't record into it. You have to use already recorded material that the matrix view lets you combine the way you want, but it's no good for improvisation. What I am really looking for is something like Ableton with accessibility if it exists. I don't believe Protools can do that, but I thought someone on the list may have had similar. needs and found some peace of software to fulfill them Cheers, JPR > http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 17 août 2011 à 14:32, HF a écrit : > Sonar's Matrix view does pretty much all that ableton does. Plus a few things > that Ableton doesn't do which I can't remember at the moment. You would have > to spend a lot of time in setting it up, but you would have to do that in > Ableton as well. > > HF > > On 8/17/2011 8:23 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: >> Hi friends, >> I'm looking for a tool to do loop based music in a Live improvisation >> situation, with the ability to record, add, delete, edit audio and midi >> loops and tracks within loops on the fly. >> Of course, Ableton would be the ideal tool for this, but I don't it has >> ever been made accessible. >> I'd like to know if someone knows a way to achieve this for the blind, >> with or without voiceover >> Cheers, >> JPR. >>> http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel >>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> >>
Re: off topic, Ableton Live
Sounds like you need a couple of kaoss pads! But seriously, maybe hardware of some sort might be a better route? Brian. -- From: "Jean-Philippe Rykiel" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:51 PM To: Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live Hey Herman and all, Sonar's matrix view is cool, but from what I watched en youtube, you can't record into it. You have to use already recorded material that the matrix view lets you combine the way you want, but it's no good for improvisation. What I am really looking for is something like Ableton with accessibility if it exists. I don't believe Protools can do that, but I thought someone on the list may have had similar. needs and found some peace of software to fulfill them Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 17 août 2011 à 14:32, HF a écrit : Sonar's Matrix view does pretty much all that ableton does. Plus a few things that Ableton doesn't do which I can't remember at the moment. You would have to spend a lot of time in setting it up, but you would have to do that in Ableton as well. HF On 8/17/2011 8:23 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Hi friends, I'm looking for a tool to do loop based music in a Live improvisation situation, with the ability to record, add, delete, edit audio and midi loops and tracks within loops on the fly. Of course, Ableton would be the ideal tool for this, but I don't it has ever been made accessible. I'd like to know if someone knows a way to achieve this for the blind, with or without voiceover Cheers, JPR. http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: off topic, Ableton Live
Hallo all, that was my opinion too. There are enough devices which can do the job. Greets Peter. ps i heard a perfect example lasst friday when Steven reichs electric counterpoint was performed live at the royal albert hall. - Original Message - From: "Brian Casey" To: Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live Sounds like you need a couple of kaoss pads! But seriously, maybe hardware of some sort might be a better route? Brian. -- From: "Jean-Philippe Rykiel" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:51 PM To: Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live Hey Herman and all, Sonar's matrix view is cool, but from what I watched en youtube, you can't record into it. You have to use already recorded material that the matrix view lets you combine the way you want, but it's no good for improvisation. What I am really looking for is something like Ableton with accessibility if it exists. I don't believe Protools can do that, but I thought someone on the list may have had similar. needs and found some peace of software to fulfill them Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 17 août 2011 à 14:32, HF a écrit : Sonar's Matrix view does pretty much all that ableton does. Plus a few things that Ableton doesn't do which I can't remember at the moment. You would have to spend a lot of time in setting it up, but you would have to do that in Ableton as well. HF On 8/17/2011 8:23 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Hi friends, I'm looking for a tool to do loop based music in a Live improvisation situation, with the ability to record, add, delete, edit audio and midi loops and tracks within loops on the fly. Of course, Ableton would be the ideal tool for this, but I don't it has ever been made accessible. I'd like to know if someone knows a way to achieve this for the blind, with or without voiceover Cheers, JPR. http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: off topic, Ableton Live
Hi Peter, That's what I'm doing for the moment. I use an Akai MPC3000 synced with an Electrics Repeter. It works but it's not as versatile as Live, and how I'd like to have all this inside a laptop! Not you? JPR > http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 18 août 2011 à 23:13, a écrit : > > Hallo all, > that was my opinion too. > There are enough devices which can do the job. > Greets > Peter. > ps i heard a perfect example lasst friday when Steven reichs electric > counterpoint was performed live at the royal albert hall. > - Original Message - From: "Brian Casey" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:57 PM > Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live > > >> Sounds like you need a couple of kaoss pads! But seriously, maybe hardware >> of some sort might be a better route? >> >> Brian. >> ---------- >> From: "Jean-Philippe Rykiel" >> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:51 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live >> >>> Hey Herman and all, >>> Sonar's matrix view is cool, but from what I watched en youtube, you can't >>> record into it. You have to use already recorded material that the matrix >>> view lets you combine the way you want, but it's no good for improvisation. >>> What I am really looking for is something like Ableton with accessibility >>> if it exists. I don't believe Protools can do that, but I thought someone >>> on the list may have had similar. needs and found some peace of software >>> to fulfill them >>> Cheers, >>> >>> JPR >>> >>>> http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel >>>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >>> >>> >>> >>> Le 17 août 2011 à 14:32, HF a écrit : >>> >>>> Sonar's Matrix view does pretty much all that ableton does. Plus a few >>>> things that Ableton doesn't do which I can't remember at the moment. You >>>> would have to spend a lot of time in setting it up, but you would have to >>>> do that in Ableton as well. >>>> >>>> HF >>>> >>>> On 8/17/2011 8:23 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: >>>>> Hi friends, >>>>> I'm looking for a tool to do loop based music in a Live improvisation >>>>> situation, with the ability to record, add, delete, edit audio and midi >>>>> loops and tracks within loops on the fly. >>>>> Of course, Ableton would be the ideal tool for this, but I don't it has >>>>> ever been made accessible. >>>>> I'd like to know if someone knows a way to achieve this for the blind, >>>>> with or without voiceover >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> JPR. >>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel >>>>>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> >
Re: off topic, Ableton Live
Hello Jean, so you are looking for something that allows you to do instant programming but you depend on the inventiveness of the musician who is performing. It must be possible last may a dutch composer made a concert for recorder (i mean flute) and laptop I don't know if you read the newsletters of www.samedaymusic.com maybe there's something in it for you. Greerts, Peter. - Original Message - From: "Jean-Philippe Rykiel" To: Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live Hi Peter, That's what I'm doing for the moment. I use an Akai MPC3000 synced with an Electrics Repeter. It works but it's not as versatile as Live, and how I'd like to have all this inside a laptop! Not you? JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 18 août 2011 à 23:13, a écrit : Hallo all, that was my opinion too. There are enough devices which can do the job. Greets Peter. ps i heard a perfect example lasst friday when Steven reichs electric counterpoint was performed live at the royal albert hall. - Original Message - From: "Brian Casey" To: Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live Sounds like you need a couple of kaoss pads! But seriously, maybe hardware of some sort might be a better route? Brian. -- From: "Jean-Philippe Rykiel" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:51 PM To: Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live Hey Herman and all, Sonar's matrix view is cool, but from what I watched en youtube, you can't record into it. You have to use already recorded material that the matrix view lets you combine the way you want, but it's no good for improvisation. What I am really looking for is something like Ableton with accessibility if it exists. I don't believe Protools can do that, but I thought someone on the list may have had similar. needs and found some peace of software to fulfill them Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 17 août 2011 à 14:32, HF a écrit : Sonar's Matrix view does pretty much all that ableton does. Plus a few things that Ableton doesn't do which I can't remember at the moment. You would have to spend a lot of time in setting it up, but you would have to do that in Ableton as well. HF On 8/17/2011 8:23 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Hi friends, I'm looking for a tool to do loop based music in a Live improvisation situation, with the ability to record, add, delete, edit audio and midi loops and tracks within loops on the fly. Of course, Ableton would be the ideal tool for this, but I don't it has ever been made accessible. I'd like to know if someone knows a way to achieve this for the blind, with or without voiceover Cheers, JPR. http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
Re: off topic, Ableton Live
Hi Peter , Yes, except I am the performer as well. I'll have a look at your link. Thanks. Jean-Philippe http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 19 août 2011 à 06:40, a écrit : > > Hello Jean, > so you are looking for something that allows you to do instant programming > but you depend on the inventiveness of the musician who is performing. > It must be possible > last may a dutch composer made a concert for recorder (i mean flute) and > laptop > I don't know if you read the newsletters of www.samedaymusic.com > maybe there's something in it for you. > Greerts, > Peter. > - Original Message - From: "Jean-Philippe Rykiel" > To: > Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:42 AM > Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live > > > Hi Peter, > That's what I'm doing for the moment. I use an Akai MPC3000 synced with an > Electrics Repeter. It works but it's not as versatile as Live, and how I'd > like to have all this inside a laptop! Not you? > JPR >> http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > > > > Le 18 août 2011 à 23:13, a écrit : > >> >> Hallo all, >> that was my opinion too. >> There are enough devices which can do the job. >> Greets >> Peter. >> ps i heard a perfect example lasst friday when Steven reichs electric >> counterpoint was performed live at the royal albert hall. >> - Original Message - From: "Brian Casey" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:57 PM >> Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live >> >> >>> Sounds like you need a couple of kaoss pads! But seriously, maybe hardware >>> of some sort might be a better route? >>> >>> Brian. >>> -- >>> From: "Jean-Philippe Rykiel" >>> Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:51 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live >>> >>>> Hey Herman and all, >>>> Sonar's matrix view is cool, but from what I watched en youtube, you >>>> can't record into it. You have to use already recorded material that the >>>> matrix view lets you combine the way you want, but it's no good for >>>> improvisation. >>>> What I am really looking for is something like Ableton with accessibility >>>> if it exists. I don't believe Protools can do that, but I thought someone >>>> on the list may have had similar. needs and found some peace of software >>>> to fulfill them >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> JPR >>>> >>>>> http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel >>>>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Le 17 août 2011 à 14:32, HF a écrit : >>>> >>>>> Sonar's Matrix view does pretty much all that ableton does. Plus a few >>>>> things that Ableton doesn't do which I can't remember at the moment. You >>>>> would have to spend a lot of time in setting it up, but you would have to >>>>> do that in Ableton as well. >>>>> >>>>> HF >>>>> >>>>> On 8/17/2011 8:23 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: >>>>>> Hi friends, >>>>>> I'm looking for a tool to do loop based music in a Live improvisation >>>>>> situation, with the ability to record, add, delete, edit audio and midi >>>>>> loops and tracks within loops on the fly. >>>>>> Of course, Ableton would be the ideal tool for this, but I don't it has >>>>>> ever been made accessible. >>>>>> I'd like to know if someone knows a way to achieve this for the blind, >>>>>> with or without voiceover >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> JPR. >>>>>>> http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel >>>>>>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >> > >
Re: off topic, Ableton Live
Hi guys, If it is off topic may be you should take it off PT List? Thanks On Aug 19, 2011, at 3:40 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Hi Peter , Yes, except I am the performer as well. I'll have a look at your link. Thanks. Jean-Philippe http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 19 août 2011 à 06:40, a écrit : Hello Jean, so you are looking for something that allows you to do instant programming but you depend on the inventiveness of the musician who is performing. It must be possible last may a dutch composer made a concert for recorder (i mean flute) and laptop I don't know if you read the newsletters of www.samedaymusic.com maybe there's something in it for you. Greerts, Peter. - Original Message - From: "Jean-Philippe Rykiel" > To: Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 12:42 AM Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live Hi Peter, That's what I'm doing for the moment. I use an Akai MPC3000 synced with an Electrics Repeter. It works but it's not as versatile as Live, and how I'd like to have all this inside a laptop! Not you? JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 18 août 2011 à 23:13, a écrit : Hallo all, that was my opinion too. There are enough devices which can do the job. Greets Peter. ps i heard a perfect example lasst friday when Steven reichs electric counterpoint was performed live at the royal albert hall. - Original Message - From: "Brian Casey" > To: Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 6:57 PM Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live Sounds like you need a couple of kaoss pads! But seriously, maybe hardware of some sort might be a better route? Brian. -- From: "Jean-Philippe Rykiel" Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 5:51 PM To: Subject: Re: off topic, Ableton Live Hey Herman and all, Sonar's matrix view is cool, but from what I watched en youtube, you can't record into it. You have to use already recorded material that the matrix view lets you combine the way you want, but it's no good for improvisation. What I am really looking for is something like Ableton with accessibility if it exists. I don't believe Protools can do that, but I thought someone on the list may have had similar. needs and found some peace of software to fulfill them Cheers, JPR http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Le 17 août 2011 à 14:32, HF a écrit : Sonar's Matrix view does pretty much all that ableton does. Plus a few things that Ableton doesn't do which I can't remember at the moment. You would have to spend a lot of time in setting it up, but you would have to do that in Ableton as well. HF On 8/17/2011 8:23 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: Hi friends, I'm looking for a tool to do loop based music in a Live improvisation situation, with the ability to record, add, delete, edit audio and midi loops and tracks within loops on the fly. Of course, Ableton would be the ideal tool for this, but I don't it has ever been made accessible. I'd like to know if someone knows a way to achieve this for the blind, with or without voiceover Cheers, JPR. http://www.facebook.com/jprykiel http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel Chuck Reichel 954-742-0019 www.SoundPictureRecording.com
