Re: Querying dbpedia from the command line?

2008-09-18 Thread Sergio Fernández

Bob DuCharme wrote:
> Doing it from a python/perl/etc. script and loading it into data
> structures from these languages is the next step I want to pursue.

If you are going out of shell scripting, you don't need to retrive the
query with wget/curl, you have SPARQL support in many programming
languages [1], including scripting languages such as Python. Take a look
on that list.

Cheers,

[1] http://esw.w3.org/topic/SparqlImplementations

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Re: SPARQL By Example presentation available

2008-09-18 Thread Juan Sequeda
This is what I have been waiting for!

Congrats and thanks!

Juan Sequeda, Ph.D Student

Research Assistant
Dept. of Computer Sciences
The University of Texas at Austin
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Semantic Web in Austin: http://juansequeda.blogspot.com/


On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 1:27 PM, Lee Feigenbaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Thanks to everyone who contributed in one way or another to these slides,
> the queries in them, and the datasets & endpoints behind them.
>
> I'd love any feedback, suggestions for improvements or additions, etc:
>
> http://www.cambridgesemantics.com/2008/09/sparql-by-example/
>
> I'd particularly be glad to hear of any use that anyone else gets out of
> these slides.
>
> Lee
>
> PS I can't guarantee what I can do about it, but I'm also happy to receive
> reports if the slides don't render well on particular browser/OS/display
> combinations - I work & present mainly with Firefox 3 on WinXP with various
> resolutions, fwiw.
>
>


Re: New LOD Cloud - Please send us links to missing data sources

2008-09-18 Thread Peter Ansell


- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: public-lod@w3.org
> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2008 1:55:07 AM GMT +10:00 Brisbane
> Subject: Re: New LOD Cloud - Please send us links to missing data sources
>
> Hello,
> 
> 
> There doesnt seem to be any mention of the LiveJournal or any of the
> livejournal powered blogging sites, such as: vox, friendfeed, hi5 to
> name a few.

I think they are implicitly in the FOAF cloud, for want of a better description 
of that node ;)

Cheers,

Peter



Re: New LOD Cloud - Please send us links to missing data sources

2008-09-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hello,

There doesnt seem to be any mention of the LiveJournal or any of the  
livejournal powered blogging sites, such as: vox, friendfeed, hi5 to  
name a few.


And you are missing links from QDOS to dbpedia :)

Cheers,

Mischa

On 17 Sep 2008, at 15:14, Anja Jentzsch wrote:


Hi all,

thanks for all the input.

Find the updated LOD cloud attached.

We added:
6. Surge Radio
7. MySpace Wrapper
8. BBC Programmes
9. BBC Placount Data
and several new connections between the datasets

We are still in contact with Kingsley on adding the mentioned  
wrappers to the cloud.


Anything still missing?

Anja

Chris Bizer schrieb:

Hi all,
Anja and I are currently updating the LOD cloud for the ESW  
wikipage. Draft attached.

Up till now we have added:
1.CrunchBase
2. LinkedMDB
3. YAGO
4. UMBEL
5. the PubGuide
It nice to see that fitting everything into one diagram is getting  
increasingly difficult as the cloud grows :-)

Did we forget any new data sources or links between data sources?
As discussed before: A data source qualifies for the cloud, if the  
data is available via dereferencable URIs and if the data source is  
interlinked with at least one other source (meaning it references  
URIs within the namespace of the other source).

Any feedback highly welcome.
Cheers
Chris
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FOAF - http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/mmt04r/foaf.rdf



SPARQL By Example presentation available

2008-09-18 Thread Lee Feigenbaum


Thanks to everyone who contributed in one way or another to these 
slides, the queries in them, and the datasets & endpoints behind them.


I'd love any feedback, suggestions for improvements or additions, etc:

http://www.cambridgesemantics.com/2008/09/sparql-by-example/

I'd particularly be glad to hear of any use that anyone else gets out of 
these slides.


Lee

PS I can't guarantee what I can do about it, but I'm also happy to 
receive reports if the slides don't render well on particular 
browser/OS/display combinations - I work & present mainly with Firefox 3 
on WinXP with various resolutions, fwiw.




Re: Querying dbpedia from the command line?

2008-09-18 Thread Bob DuCharme


Richard Cyganiak wrote:
1. SPARQL is great, but too verbose for the command line. 


I don't worry about this much, because I'm not interested in using it 
from the command line per se as much as the ability to use a script to 
retrieve data from a SPARQL endpoint, and doing it from the command line 
is the first step toward that. Doing it from a python/perl/etc. script 
and loading it into data structures from these languages is the next 
step I want to pursue.


3. We are all waiting for SPARQL processors that federate multiple 
SPARQL endpoints transparently into a single endpoint. Progress is being 
made in this area, but it's slow. Meanwhile, there is a very nice 80/20 
solution to this problem: Andy Seaborne has implemented a SERVICE 
keyword for his extended variant of SPARQL, which allows you to address 
parts of a SPARQL query to a specific endpoint. This seems like an easy 
win for data integration demos.


Definitely, and to help the concept of Linked Data live up to its name. 
I had been planning a blog post titled "Linking Linked Data" but wasn't 
sure how I was going to go about it. I look forward to playing with the 
SERVICE keyword.


Bob



Re: Querying dbpedia from the command line?

2008-09-18 Thread Richard Cyganiak


On 18 Sep 2008, at 02:48, Bob DuCharme wrote:
As a side note, I think this is going to be very big, because while  
Linked Data (and much of the semantic web) is theoretically about  
exposing data to programs instead of to eyeballs like the  
traditional web, most of the linked data and semantic web demos I  
see out there are about visual browsing of linked data--displaying  
it to eyeballs. When we can grab the results of a linked data SPARQL  
query with a script, then we can really start doing new and  
interesting things with it.


I agree. Let me add some random thoughts on how to take this idea  
(retrieving data from RDF sources on the command line for further  
processing) into more powerful directions.


1. SPARQL is great, but too verbose for the command line. I would  
really like to use a single-line, XPath-style query language for RDF  
in situations like this. There are a couple of proposals for such a  
language out there, several of them are called "RDFPath" and there's  
Uche Ogbuji's Versa. It would be really great to see some progress in  
this area. The first one of these languages to get a well-packaged  
implementation on top of the Jena API will probably win.


2. I really like the idea behind the Semantic Web Client Library (part  
of NG4J) for exactly the reason you state above -- it makes it  
possible to get data from the sources out there for further  
processing. It has a command line tool that allows you to ask SPARQL  
queries against (potentially) the entire Web. Unfortunately, we never  
managed to get the library beyond a prototype stage, and a lot of work  
remains to be done on it. Still, the idea remains valid and is  
important, I think.


3. We are all waiting for SPARQL processors that federate multiple  
SPARQL endpoints transparently into a single endpoint. Progress is  
being made in this area, but it's slow. Meanwhile, there is a very  
nice 80/20 solution to this problem: Andy Seaborne has implemented a  
SERVICE keyword for his extended variant of SPARQL, which allows you  
to address parts of a SPARQL query to a specific endpoint. This seems  
like an easy win for data integration demos.


Richard





Bob