Re: Top three levels of Dewey Decimal Classification published as linked data

2009-08-24 Thread Ivan Herman


Panzer,Michael wrote:
[snip]
 
  
 Another unrelated thing I noticed is that the RDFa doesn't 
 seem to be usable by the RDFa Distiller:

 http://tinyurl.com/nm8lfa
 
 The problem here is that pyRdfa doesn't seem to send the correct Accept
 header. Since dewey.info defaults to RDF/XML if it doesn't see
 text/html or application/xhtml+rdfa in the request, pyRdfa doesn't
 see any RDFa at all. You have to skip conneg and use the URL for the
 HTML-specific resource directly, e.g.
 http://dewey.info/class/641/about.html.
 
 http://tinyurl.com/kjpxmt
 

Right, that was indeed a bug (to be honest, I never thought of that, my
mistake:-). But it works now, both with

http://dewey.info/class/641/

and

http://dewey.info/class/641/about

See http://tinyurl.com/kt67ot and http://tinyurl.com/luouaw respectively.

Thanks!

Ivan


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Re: Top three levels of Dewey Decimal Classification published as linked data

2009-08-24 Thread Ross Singer
On Fri, Aug 21, 2009 at 5:04 PM, Panzer,Michaelpanz...@oclc.org wrote:

 I think this a general difficulty with the SKOS model. What is a SKOS
 concept? Is it a thing (unit of thought) or an information resource?
 It seems that it can be both, depending what information you provide and
 how you refer to it. For example, it could be argued that the concept
 http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85137241#concept really refers to the
 idea of trees in general, or (probably more in line with common opinion)
 to the idea of trees as framed as an element of the controlled
 vocabulary LCSH.

It's interesting that you bring this up, since we were just having a
debate about it in the #code4lib IRC channel given a decision I had
made modeling some MARC data.

My design had a distinction between a person as a creator (i.e. a
MARC 100 field) vs. a person as a subject (a MARC 600 field) -- that
is to say, they had distinct URIs (although, really, the SKOS concept
was the same URI with #concept tacked to the end).

See here for an example:
http://github.com/rsinger/marc2rdf-modeler/blob/75cc48e803f7953292fbb770741a2c14b096cc4d/visual.ttl

My rationale was that an LCSH heading comprises other meaning than the
literal thing.  That is to say, the subject of William Shakespeare
neither wrote the 'The Tempest' nor was a contemporary of Chistopher
Marlowe.

This:
http://id.loc.gov/authorities/sh85056381
is not quite the same as:
http://sws.geonames.org/6619202/

At least not in my mind (and I could very well be wrong):  the latter
is a literal:  this point represents a canyon in Arizona located at N
35° 58' 26'' W 113° 46' 8''.  The former stands for a more abstract
interpretation of that that can comprise of more than just the rocks,
ditch and donkeys.

Rob Styles made an interesting rebuttal to my point about William
Shakespeare (re: the MARC 100 and 600 fields):  they are actually
describing the same thing, but it's not what we think of as a
person.  It's a bibliographic identity (which is why Samuel
Clemens and Mark Twain are distinct from each other).  This is an
interesting (and, in my mind, rational) interpretation, but I'm not
sure how it then affects modeling the creator resources if they aren't
people but bibliographic identities.

Anyway, yes, I think some more thought needs to go into Dewey and
LCSH's relationship to the real world.

-Ross.



Re: Publications on SOA and linked data?

2009-08-24 Thread Richard Cyganiak

On 24 Aug 2009, at 13:31, Axel Rauschmayer wrote:
Web services and linked data seem highly related: Many of the linked  
data introductions feel ReSTful, as does Tabulator's use of SPARQL/ 
update. But, while there are many blog posts out there that briefly  
touch on this topic, I have yet to find a publication that paints a  
complete and coherent picture. Is anyone aware of such publications  
(or currently writing one ;-) ?


There are semantic web services, but I would expect linked data web  
services to be different.


Typical linked data deployments can be seen as read-only web services  
that embrace the REST style (as opposed to RPC/SOAP-style services),  
and deliver RDF, and use separate URIs to identify publication units  
(documents) and domain entities.


Every linked data deployment is a web service, in the same sense that  
every website is a web service that delivers HTML.


As such, linked data can certainly be used to implement SOA *in  
certain cases*. I think it should work well when the ultimate goal is  
around search and data warehousing, and it's probably not a good fit  
if it's mostly about transactional data. I think linked data is  
particularly well suited to situations where the number and the  
details, schema etc., of the individual services is not known in  
advance.


There's quite some mismatch in terminology though, because in SOA  
there's a focus on the messages that are exchanged between services,  
while in linked data there's a focus on the data that's held in the  
services. SOA is about integrating systems by decomposing them into  
services; linked data is about integrating systems into a unified  
information space.


I'm not aware of a publication that provides a nice overview of these  
issues.


Semantic Web Services are something else altogether.

Best,
Richard




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RDF and FSLDM ( Financial Services Logical Data Model )

2009-08-24 Thread Aldo Bucchi
Hi all,

Has anyone seen, thought, or heard about a FSLDM ( Financial Services
Logical Data Model ) OWL ontology/vocab?

Regards,
A

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Re: Top three levels of Dewey Decimal Classification published as linked data

2009-08-24 Thread Ian Davis
On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 2:56 PM, Ross Singerrossfsin...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyway, yes, I think some more thought needs to go into Dewey and
 LCSH's relationship to the real world.

I think http://www.flickr.com/photos/danbri/3282565132 might be relevant here

The classification that danbri uses in that diagram is quite
interesting. I paraphrase them as: things, types, web documents (or
information resources) and conceptualizations. I'm not attempting to
define them at the moment.

I tried to enumerate how these four categories interelate:

things - things via general rdf properties
things - types via rdf:type
things - web documents via foaf:topic/foaf:isTopicOf/rdfs:seeAlso

web documents - types via rdf:type, maybe via foaf:topic if the
document is describing the type
web documents - conceptualizations via dc:subject
web documents - web documents via rdfs:seeAlso etc

types - types via rdfs:subClassOf

conceptualizations - conceptualizations via skos:broader/skos:narrower/etc.

A couple were missing:

For things - conceptualizations I recently created ov:category [1]
and ov:isCategoryOf [2] which I used in productdb.org to link things
with their categories (e.g. http://productdb.org/2006-honda-element).
Using dc:subject didn't seem right - does a model of car have a
subject? This is what I would suggest you use to relate an author to a
category about them.

The other one that is missing is types - conceptualization

SKOS says there is no defined relationship [3]. Interestingly the RDF
Semantics has this to say [4]: RDFS classes can be considered to be
rather more than simple sets; they can be thought of as
'classifications' or 'concepts' which have a robust notion of identity
which goes beyond a simple extensional correspondence. 


 -Ross.


Ian

[1] http://open.vocab.org/terms/category
[2] http://open.vocab.org/terms/isCategoryOf
[3] http://www.w3.org/TR/skos-reference/#L896
[4] http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-mt/#technote