Re: Attribute or Property Ontology?

2014-07-11 Thread Aldo Gangemi
Hi Mike, you’re probably talking of a “framing” ontology that “unifies sets of 
properties for certain entities?
This Infobox-like structure is missing from DBpedia for example, as I described 
in [1].
Probably the oldest ontology pattern for that is Descriptions and Situations 
[2], also embedded in the DOLCE+DnS-Ultralight (DUL) foundational ontology [3].
Aldo

[1] http://www.slideshare.net/gangemi/isemantics-key
[2] http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/cp/owl/descriptionandsituation.owl
[3] http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/ont/dul/DUL.owl

On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:42:26 AM , Mike Bergman m...@mkbergman.com wrote:

 Hi All,
 
 I have been looking for an ontology that organizes and describes possible 
 characteristics or attributes for common entity types, such as what might be 
 found in a key-value pair in Wikipedia infoboxes and such.
 
 I have had no luck finding such a vocabulary or ontology. The closest 
 representation I found was one related to sensors and the Internet of Things 
 (IoT) [1]. The Wolfram Language also has an interesting structure around 
 units [2]. Biperpedia has recently been discussed by Google [3], but no 
 actual ontology or structure yet appears available for inspection.
 
 Does anyone know of a general ontology for capturing record/entity attributes 
 or characteristics (properties)? I know some domains like biomedical may have 
 partial approaches to this, but I'm seeking something that has as its intent 
 being a general-purpose attribute reference.
 
 Suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks, Mike
 
 [1] 
 http://eprints.eemcs.utwente.nl/23734/01/CICARE2013_-_Brandt_et_al_-_Semantic_interoperability_in_sensor_applications_-_final_version.pdf
 [2] http://reference.wolfram.com/language/guide/Units.html
 [3] http://infolab.stanford.edu/~euijong/biperpedia.pdf
 




Re: Attribute or Property Ontology?

2014-07-11 Thread Mike Bergman

Hi Catia,

Thanks for the reference, which I had not inspected before. This seems 
to be more analogous to something like SIOC than for characterizing 
entity attributes, no?


Thanks, Mike

On 7/11/2014 1:57 AM, Catia Pesquita wrote:

Take a look at the Information Artifact Ontology.
https://code.google.com/p/information-artifact-ontology/

Cheers,

On Jul 11, 2014 3:47 AM, Mike Bergman m...@mkbergman.com
mailto:m...@mkbergman.com wrote:

Hi All,

I have been looking for an ontology that organizes and describes
possible characteristics or attributes for common entity types, such
as what might be found in a key-value pair in Wikipedia infoboxes
and such.

I have had no luck finding such a vocabulary or ontology. The
closest representation I found was one related to sensors and the
Internet of Things (IoT) [1]. The Wolfram Language also has an
interesting structure around units [2]. Biperpedia has recently been
discussed by Google [3], but no actual ontology or structure yet
appears available for inspection.

Does anyone know of a general ontology for capturing record/entity
attributes or characteristics (properties)? I know some domains like
biomedical may have partial approaches to this, but I'm seeking
something that has as its intent being a general-purpose attribute
reference.

Suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Mike

[1]

http://eprints.eemcs.utwente.__nl/23734/01/CICARE2013_-___Brandt_et_al_-_Semantic___interoperability_in_sensor___applications_-_final_version.__pdf

http://eprints.eemcs.utwente.nl/23734/01/CICARE2013_-_Brandt_et_al_-_Semantic_interoperability_in_sensor_applications_-_final_version.pdf
[2] http://reference.wolfram.com/__language/guide/Units.html
http://reference.wolfram.com/language/guide/Units.html
[3] http://infolab.stanford.edu/~__euijong/biperpedia.pdf
http://infolab.stanford.edu/~euijong/biperpedia.pdf




Re: Attribute or Property Ontology?

2014-07-11 Thread Mike Bergman

Hi Aldo,

Very helpful references. Your ref [1] (see corrected link below) is 
excellent and goes to much broader questions of the primitive power of 
classes and the importance of context (I think that is another way to 
consider framing, no?) in situating semantic Web assertions. Very 
useful. And I agree with the DBpedia infobox observations.


However, what I am looking for is a reference grounding that would 
enable descriptive or quantitative attribute properties from different 
vocabularies and ontologies to be mapped to one another. Two different 
properties for, say, distance, could be related to a canonical distance 
reference. Such a reference system should also allow, say, relating 
different unit measures (e.g., English v metric distances) or possibly 
allow string literals to be lifted to an object property or specific 
datatype.


The ultimate purpose of such an attribute reference ontology would be to 
aid true data operability between systems. I also have an intuitive 
sense that such quantity and descriptive properties lend themselves to 
an overall logical organization. Portions of Cyc seem to demonstrate 
this; I will poke further into DOLCE as well.


Maybe this is just too difficult to do, and that is the reason I'm not 
finding any prior work. ;)


Thanks, Mike

[1] http://www.slideshare.net/gangemi/isemantics-keynote

On 7/11/2014 2:34 AM, Aldo Gangemi wrote:

Hi Mike, you’re probably talking of a “framing” ontology that “unifies sets of 
properties for certain entities?
This Infobox-like structure is missing from DBpedia for example, as I described 
in [1].
Probably the oldest ontology pattern for that is Descriptions and Situations 
[2], also embedded in the DOLCE+DnS-Ultralight (DUL) foundational ontology [3].
Aldo

[1] http://www.slideshare.net/gangemi/isemantics-key
[2] http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/cp/owl/descriptionandsituation.owl
[3] http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/ont/dul/DUL.owl

On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:42:26 AM , Mike Bergman m...@mkbergman.com wrote:


Hi All,

I have been looking for an ontology that organizes and describes possible 
characteristics or attributes for common entity types, such as what might be 
found in a key-value pair in Wikipedia infoboxes and such.

I have had no luck finding such a vocabulary or ontology. The closest 
representation I found was one related to sensors and the Internet of Things 
(IoT) [1]. The Wolfram Language also has an interesting structure around units 
[2]. Biperpedia has recently been discussed by Google [3], but no actual 
ontology or structure yet appears available for inspection.

Does anyone know of a general ontology for capturing record/entity attributes 
or characteristics (properties)? I know some domains like biomedical may have 
partial approaches to this, but I'm seeking something that has as its intent 
being a general-purpose attribute reference.

Suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Mike

[1] 
http://eprints.eemcs.utwente.nl/23734/01/CICARE2013_-_Brandt_et_al_-_Semantic_interoperability_in_sensor_applications_-_final_version.pdf
[2] http://reference.wolfram.com/language/guide/Units.html
[3] http://infolab.stanford.edu/~euijong/biperpedia.pdf





Re: Attribute or Property Ontology?

2014-07-11 Thread Michel Dumontier
Hi Mike,
  We have done some work in SIO [1] to guide the development of
descriptive and quantitative attributes. We have a recently published
paper [2] that articulates some of our design decisions, and how we
use them in our work. Happy to work with you on your use cases in the
context of our public mailing list [3]

Best,

m.

[1] http://sio.semanticscience.org
[2] http://www.jbiomedsem.com/content/5/1/14
[3] http://groups.google.com/group/sio-ontology
Michel Dumontier
Associate Professor of Medicine (Biomedical Informatics), Stanford University
Chair, W3C Semantic Web for Health Care and the Life Sciences Interest Group
http://dumontierlab.com


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Mike Bergman m...@mkbergman.com wrote:
 Hi Aldo,

 Very helpful references. Your ref [1] (see corrected link below) is
 excellent and goes to much broader questions of the primitive power of
 classes and the importance of context (I think that is another way to
 consider framing, no?) in situating semantic Web assertions. Very useful.
 And I agree with the DBpedia infobox observations.

 However, what I am looking for is a reference grounding that would enable
 descriptive or quantitative attribute properties from different vocabularies
 and ontologies to be mapped to one another. Two different properties for,
 say, distance, could be related to a canonical distance reference. Such a
 reference system should also allow, say, relating different unit measures
 (e.g., English v metric distances) or possibly allow string literals to be
 lifted to an object property or specific datatype.

 The ultimate purpose of such an attribute reference ontology would be to aid
 true data operability between systems. I also have an intuitive sense that
 such quantity and descriptive properties lend themselves to an overall
 logical organization. Portions of Cyc seem to demonstrate this; I will poke
 further into DOLCE as well.

 Maybe this is just too difficult to do, and that is the reason I'm not
 finding any prior work. ;)

 Thanks, Mike

 [1] http://www.slideshare.net/gangemi/isemantics-keynote


 On 7/11/2014 2:34 AM, Aldo Gangemi wrote:

 Hi Mike, you’re probably talking of a “framing” ontology that “unifies
 sets of properties for certain entities?
 This Infobox-like structure is missing from DBpedia for example, as I
 described in [1].
 Probably the oldest ontology pattern for that is Descriptions and
 Situations [2], also embedded in the DOLCE+DnS-Ultralight (DUL) foundational
 ontology [3].
 Aldo

 [1] http://www.slideshare.net/gangemi/isemantics-key
 [2]
 http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/cp/owl/descriptionandsituation.owl
 [3] http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/ont/dul/DUL.owl

 On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:42:26 AM , Mike Bergman m...@mkbergman.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 I have been looking for an ontology that organizes and describes possible
 characteristics or attributes for common entity types, such as what might be
 found in a key-value pair in Wikipedia infoboxes and such.

 I have had no luck finding such a vocabulary or ontology. The closest
 representation I found was one related to sensors and the Internet of Things
 (IoT) [1]. The Wolfram Language also has an interesting structure around
 units [2]. Biperpedia has recently been discussed by Google [3], but no
 actual ontology or structure yet appears available for inspection.

 Does anyone know of a general ontology for capturing record/entity
 attributes or characteristics (properties)? I know some domains like
 biomedical may have partial approaches to this, but I'm seeking something
 that has as its intent being a general-purpose attribute reference.

 Suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks, Mike

 [1]
 http://eprints.eemcs.utwente.nl/23734/01/CICARE2013_-_Brandt_et_al_-_Semantic_interoperability_in_sensor_applications_-_final_version.pdf
 [2] http://reference.wolfram.com/language/guide/Units.html
 [3] http://infolab.stanford.edu/~euijong/biperpedia.pdf





Re: Attribute or Property Ontology?

2014-07-11 Thread Krzysztof Janowicz
SIO looks really interesting! Thanks for sharing. Just to make sure we 
all talk about the same. Mike, are you looking for bundles of relations 
and attributes that characterize types or hierarchies of relations and 
attributes? We are doing the first for geographic feature types (e.g., 
state) if this would be of any interest to you.


Best,
Krzysztof


On 07/11/2014 10:49 AM, Michel Dumontier wrote:

Hi Mike,
   We have done some work in SIO [1] to guide the development of
descriptive and quantitative attributes. We have a recently published
paper [2] that articulates some of our design decisions, and how we
use them in our work. Happy to work with you on your use cases in the
context of our public mailing list [3]

Best,

m.

[1] http://sio.semanticscience.org
[2] http://www.jbiomedsem.com/content/5/1/14
[3] http://groups.google.com/group/sio-ontology
Michel Dumontier
Associate Professor of Medicine (Biomedical Informatics), Stanford University
Chair, W3C Semantic Web for Health Care and the Life Sciences Interest Group
http://dumontierlab.com


On Fri, Jul 11, 2014 at 8:44 AM, Mike Bergman m...@mkbergman.com wrote:

Hi Aldo,

Very helpful references. Your ref [1] (see corrected link below) is
excellent and goes to much broader questions of the primitive power of
classes and the importance of context (I think that is another way to
consider framing, no?) in situating semantic Web assertions. Very useful.
And I agree with the DBpedia infobox observations.

However, what I am looking for is a reference grounding that would enable
descriptive or quantitative attribute properties from different vocabularies
and ontologies to be mapped to one another. Two different properties for,
say, distance, could be related to a canonical distance reference. Such a
reference system should also allow, say, relating different unit measures
(e.g., English v metric distances) or possibly allow string literals to be
lifted to an object property or specific datatype.

The ultimate purpose of such an attribute reference ontology would be to aid
true data operability between systems. I also have an intuitive sense that
such quantity and descriptive properties lend themselves to an overall
logical organization. Portions of Cyc seem to demonstrate this; I will poke
further into DOLCE as well.

Maybe this is just too difficult to do, and that is the reason I'm not
finding any prior work. ;)

Thanks, Mike

[1] http://www.slideshare.net/gangemi/isemantics-keynote


On 7/11/2014 2:34 AM, Aldo Gangemi wrote:


Hi Mike, you’re probably talking of a “framing” ontology that “unifies
sets of properties for certain entities?
This Infobox-like structure is missing from DBpedia for example, as I
described in [1].
Probably the oldest ontology pattern for that is Descriptions and
Situations [2], also embedded in the DOLCE+DnS-Ultralight (DUL) foundational
ontology [3].
Aldo

[1] http://www.slideshare.net/gangemi/isemantics-key
[2]
http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/cp/owl/descriptionandsituation.owl
[3] http://www.ontologydesignpatterns.org/ont/dul/DUL.owl

On Jul 11, 2014, at 4:42:26 AM , Mike Bergman m...@mkbergman.com wrote:


Hi All,

I have been looking for an ontology that organizes and describes possible
characteristics or attributes for common entity types, such as what might be
found in a key-value pair in Wikipedia infoboxes and such.

I have had no luck finding such a vocabulary or ontology. The closest
representation I found was one related to sensors and the Internet of Things
(IoT) [1]. The Wolfram Language also has an interesting structure around
units [2]. Biperpedia has recently been discussed by Google [3], but no
actual ontology or structure yet appears available for inspection.

Does anyone know of a general ontology for capturing record/entity
attributes or characteristics (properties)? I know some domains like
biomedical may have partial approaches to this, but I'm seeking something
that has as its intent being a general-purpose attribute reference.

Suggestions or pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks, Mike

[1]
http://eprints.eemcs.utwente.nl/23734/01/CICARE2013_-_Brandt_et_al_-_Semantic_interoperability_in_sensor_applications_-_final_version.pdf
[2] http://reference.wolfram.com/language/guide/Units.html
[3] http://infolab.stanford.edu/~euijong/biperpedia.pdf








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Krzysztof Janowicz

Geography Department, University of California, Santa Barbara
5806 Ellison Hall, Santa Barbara, CA 93106-4060

Email: j...@geog.ucsb.edu
Webpage: http://geog.ucsb.edu/~jano/
Semantic Web Journal: http://www.semantic-web-journal.net



Re: Attribute or Property Ontology?

2014-07-11 Thread Gannon Dick
Hi Mike,

Maybe this is just too difficult to do, and that is the reason I'm not  finding 
any prior work. ;)
=
There is some prior work called science.
 E=mc^2 means there is no Edge of the Universe 1/4 mile ahead, please creep 
sign. Ontologists are trying to find the sign, but in the meantime photons will 
just have to imagine it's there. 
The rest of us will have to use the (199*(2/2))xQuarters+(First+Last)/2 = 100 
Quarters scale: 
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lod/2014Jul/0030.html
--Gannon