Re: [ANN] Major update of Lexvo.org

2010-07-08 Thread Ian Davis
Hi Bernard,

On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Bernard Vatant
bernard.vat...@mondeca.com wrote:


 Basically that's it. If this practice seems good from social and technical
 viewpoint it could be a good idea to document it in a more formal way and
 put it somewhare on the wiki. There has been a page set up on the wiki a
 while ago about this issue, sorry can't find now the page address and who
 set it up, and I can't access now to
 http://community.linkeddata.org/MediaWiki/ for some reasons.


This looks like a really good and sensible social process and I'd
support it being more public on the wiki.

Also, if anyone has datasets that they feel they cannot maintain any
more, please consider using the Talis Connected Commons Scheme. We
will host any public domain linked data for free for ever (or at least
for as long as Talis exists which is 40 years so far). This is really
a no-hassle solution with no strings whatsoever, just the commitment
that the data is in the public domain for everyone's reuse. We are
also looking to automatically deposit such datasets with the internet
archive in the future.

Please have a look at http://www.talis.com/platform/cc/ for more
information on this scheme.

Ian

 Looking forward for the feedback

 Bernard



 2010/7/5 Gerard de Melo gdem...@mpi-inf.mpg.de

 Hi everyone,

 We'd like to announce a major update of Lexvo.org [1], a site that brings
 information about languages, words, characters, and other human language-
 related entities to the LOD cloud. Lexvo.org adds a new perspective to the
 Web of Data by exposing how everything in our world is connected in terms
 of language, e.g. via words and names and their semantic relationships.

 Lexvo.org first went live in 2008 just in time for that year's ISWC.
 Recently, the site has undergone a major revamp, with plenty of help from
 Bernard Vatant, who has decided to redirect lingvoj.org's language URIs to
 the corresponding Lexvo.org ones.

 At this point, the site is no longer considered to be in beta testing,
 and we invite you to take a closer look. On the front page, you'll find
 links to examples that will allow you get a feel for the type of
 information being offered. We'd love to hear your comments.

 Best,
 Gerard

 [1] http://www.lexvo.org/

 --
 Gerard de Melodem...@mpi-inf.mpg.de
 Max Planck Institute for Informatics
 http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/~gdemelo/







 --
 Bernard Vatant
 Senior Consultant
 Vocabulary  Data Engineering
 Tel:       +33 (0) 971 488 459
 Mail:     bernard.vat...@mondeca.com
 
 Mondeca
 3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France
 Web:    http://www.mondeca.com
 Blog:    http://mondeca.wordpress.com
 




Re: [ANN] Major update of Lexvo.org

2010-07-07 Thread Bernard Vatant
Hi all

Thanks to Gerard for pushing officially Lexvo.org here. Since he mentioned
the redirection of lingvoj.org URIs for languages, I think good to provide
here a little details about the why and how's of this process as an example
of practice, hopefully good, possibly best :)

What should you do when you have published a data set and a couple of years
later discover that :
1. You don't have much bandwidth, or technical skills, or resources to
update and maintain it.
2. Meanwhile, some other data set has been published, with better quality
than your own.
3. You want to ensure backward compatibility, that is not break the
applications consuming your URIs.

From a social viewpoint, first step is to contact the administrator of the
other data set and the following conversation takes place

X: Hello Y, would you mind if I redirect my URIs at foo to you resources at
bar?
Y: Hello X, I've looked at you URIs and data set and think it makes sense.
What are your service load stats, to figure if my server can stand them?
X: Fair enough, please find attached my servers stats for last year. Can you
handle that?
Y: OK, no problem I can handle the extra charge

Then the technical part, reconfiguring the content negotiation. Let's take
an example.

GET html on http://www.lingvoj.org/lang/zh has a 303 to
http://www.lingvoj.org/lingvo/zh.html which has itself a regular html
redirection to http://www.lexvo.org/page/iso639-3/zho which is the html
rendition of http://lexvo.org/id/iso639-3/zho

GET rdf on the same resource redirects to
http://www.lingvoj.org/lingvo/zh.rdf where the following can be found

rdf:Description rdf:about=http://www.lingvoj.org/lingvo/zh.rdf;
dcterms:isReplacedBy rdf:resource=
http://www.lexvo.org/data/iso639-3/zho/
/rdf:Description

The former description living at this URI is superceded by the description
at http://www.lexvo.org/data/iso639-3/zho

lingvoj:Lingvo rdf:about=http://www.lingvoj.org/lang/zh;
rdfs:isDefinedBy rdf:resource=
http://www.lexvo.org/data/iso639-3/zho/
owl:sameAs rdf:resource=http://lexvo.org/id/iso639-3/zho/
/lingvoj:Lingvo

The resource described is defined as the same as its lexvo.org equivalent,
and the definition resource changed accordingly.

So a simple follow-your nose from the deprecated URIs and RDF files will
retrieve the current description.

Basically that's it. If this practice seems good from social and technical
viewpoint it could be a good idea to document it in a more formal way and
put it somewhare on the wiki. There has been a page set up on the wiki a
while ago about this issue, sorry can't find now the page address and who
set it up, and I can't access now to
http://community.linkeddata.org/MediaWiki/ for some reasons.

Looking forward for the feedback

Bernard



2010/7/5 Gerard de Melo gdem...@mpi-inf.mpg.de

 Hi everyone,

 We'd like to announce a major update of Lexvo.org [1], a site that brings
 information about languages, words, characters, and other human language-
 related entities to the LOD cloud. Lexvo.org adds a new perspective to the
 Web of Data by exposing how everything in our world is connected in terms
 of language, e.g. via words and names and their semantic relationships.

 Lexvo.org first went live in 2008 just in time for that year's ISWC.
 Recently, the site has undergone a major revamp, with plenty of help from
 Bernard Vatant, who has decided to redirect lingvoj.org's language URIs to
 the corresponding Lexvo.org ones.

 At this point, the site is no longer considered to be in beta testing,
 and we invite you to take a closer look. On the front page, you'll find
 links to examples that will allow you get a feel for the type of
 information being offered. We'd love to hear your comments.

 Best,
 Gerard

 [1] http://www.lexvo.org/

 --
 Gerard de Melodem...@mpi-inf.mpg.de
 Max Planck Institute for Informatics
 http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/~gdemelo/http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/%7Egdemelo/







-- 
Bernard Vatant
Senior Consultant
Vocabulary  Data Engineering
Tel:   +33 (0) 971 488 459
Mail: bernard.vat...@mondeca.com

Mondeca
3, cité Nollez 75018 Paris France
Web:http://www.mondeca.com
Blog:http://mondeca.wordpress.com



[ANN] Major update of Lexvo.org

2010-07-06 Thread Gerard de Melo

Hi everyone,

We'd like to announce a major update of Lexvo.org [1], a site that brings
information about languages, words, characters, and other human language-
related entities to the LOD cloud. Lexvo.org adds a new perspective to the
Web of Data by exposing how everything in our world is connected in terms
of language, e.g. via words and names and their semantic relationships.

Lexvo.org first went live in 2008 just in time for that year's ISWC.
Recently, the site has undergone a major revamp, with plenty of help from
Bernard Vatant, who has decided to redirect lingvoj.org's language URIs to
the corresponding Lexvo.org ones.

At this point, the site is no longer considered to be in beta testing,
and we invite you to take a closer look. On the front page, you'll find
links to examples that will allow you get a feel for the type of
information being offered. We'd love to hear your comments.

Best,
Gerard

[1] http://www.lexvo.org/

--
Gerard de Melodem...@mpi-inf.mpg.de
Max Planck Institute for Informatics
http://www.mpi-inf.mpg.de/~gdemelo/