Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Brent Shambaugh]

>Brent,
>
>Pasting my reply to Manu (with some editing) here, as I think its important:
>
>Manu,
>
>It is misleading (albeit inadvertent in regards to your post above) to
>infer that Linked Data isn't already the core of the Web. The absolute
>fact of the matter is that Linked Data has been the core of the Web
>since it was an idea [1][2].
>
>The Web doesn't work at all if HTTP URIs aren't names for:
>
>[1] What exists on the Web
>[2] What exists, period.
>
>We just have the misfortune of poor communications mucking up proper
>comprehension of AWWW. For example, RDF should have been presented to
>the world as an effort by the W3C to standardize an existing aspect of
>the Web i.e., the ability to leverage HTTP URIs as mechanisms for:
>
>1. entity identification & naming
>2. entity description using sentences or statements -- where (as is the
>case re., natural language) a sentence or statement is comprised of a
>subject, predicate, and object.
>
>Instead, we ended up with an incomprehensible, indefensible, and at best
>draconian narrative that has forever tainted the letters "R-D-F" .  And
>to compount matters, "HttpRange-14" has become censorship tool (based on
>its ridiculous history), that blurs fixing this horrible state of affairs.>
>
>Links:
>
>[1] http://bit.ly/10Y9FL1 -- Evidence that Linked Data was always at the
>core of the Web (excuse some instability on my personal data space
>instance, at this point in time, should you encounter issues looking up
>the document identified by this HTTP URI)
>
>[2] >http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2014/03/world-wide-web-25-years-later.html 
>
>-- World Wide Web, 25 years later
>
>[3] 
>>http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/04/b4/79/04b4794ccf2b6fd14ed3c822be26382f.jpg
> 
>
>-- Illustrating identification (naming) on the Web (re., things that
>exist on or off the Web medium) .
>
>--
>
>--
>Regards,
>
>Kingsley Idehen
>Founder & CEO
>OpenLink Software
>Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com
>Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen
>Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about
>LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
>Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this

Kingsley,

Thanks for linking to your blog. I found it useful that you broke
things up into a Linked

Document Network, Linked Data Network, Linked Open Data, and Semantic
Linked Open Data.

You gave it a names, which made it easier to deal with. I hope to
someday spend a few

minutes talking to you and Tim Berners-Lee. Basically go to one of
those big WWW conferences.

-Brent


-Brent Shambaugh

Website: bshambaugh.org

On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 3:38 PM, Brent Shambaugh 
wrote:

> Manu Sporny's post titled "Building Linked Data into the Core of the Web"
> [http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html
> ]
> led to the question:
> is linked data and semantic web tech useful? I think so. I can only speak
> from my own perspective and experience.
>
> I am not sure what to call it:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_production
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_manufacturing
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons-based_peer_production
>
> But I produced a website wire frame:
> http://bshambaugh.org/eispp3.pdf
>
> With the following main components described by the following resources:
>
> natural language query box gives documents and entities from ontologies
> (MFernandez_thesis.pdf)
> [
> http://www.jabenitez.com/personal/MASTER/TFM/COMPLETO/ESTADO%20DEL%20ARTE%20BORRADOR/FUENTES/thesis_MiriamFernandez.pdf
> ]
>
> entities are linked to ontologies...ontologies may be queried using their
> structure with OB in
> (EISPP_OB.pdf) with (paper3.pdf)
> [http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-565/paper3.pdf]
>
> ontologies may also be queried with SPARQL (
> http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/) or SQWRL
> (owled2009_submission_42.pdf [for questions about particular numbers])
> {for looking at value
> networks, bartering systems, etc,}
> [http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-529/owled2009_submission_42.pdf]
>
> Protege may be loaded from the protege button (
> http://protege.stanford.edu/)
> once structured data is loaded from querying an ontology, or performing a
> SQWRL, or a SPARQL
> query...
> [http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtege]
>
> Views may include the object process methodology (Dori.pdf and
> ER2003PT1Dori.pdf)
> [
> http://esml.iem.technion.ac.il/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/SWDB-2003Dori-OPM-Semantic-Web.pdf
> ]
> [http://www.er.byu.edu/er2003/slides/ER2003PT1Dori.pdf]
>
> A standard node-edge graph (http://www.w3.org/2001/11/IsaViz/).
>
> a ranked list (http://lucene.apache.o

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Gannon Dick]

Hello Paul and Michael,

IMHO, this is the fulcrum between "Linked Data" and "Linked Open Data" - the 
ethics of a Repository.  A Repository needs internal procedures to limit 
inflation due to redundancy.  You can not stop people from thinking of 
namespaces as "brands" but you can not stop unscrupulous data merchants from 
restocking the shelves with repackaged data either.  If you want to reuse RDF 
it is best run it through an ethical Repository as you would recycle a book 
through a Library.
--Gannon

On Sat, 9/20/14, Michael Brunnbauer  wrote:

 Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
 To: "Paul Houle" 
 Cc: "Gannon Dick" , "Linked Data community" 
, "Kingsley Idehen" 
 Date: Saturday, September 20, 2014, 11:30 AM
 
 
 Hello
 Paul,
 
 or why don't we
 just acknowledge that whether your knowledge
 representation
 
 1) has a
 formal semantics
 2) has a formal syntax
 3) is more or less expressive
 
 is a matter of the task at
 hand.
 
 The whole Web already
 *is* linked data and I wonder if one day when we will
 have the perfect RDF, it will be obsolete. Of
 course - per the above - it
 would still have
 its use cases.
 
 Regards,
 
 Michael Brunnbauer
 
 On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:25:43AM -0400, Paul
 Houle wrote:
 > Why don't we just
 reorganize RDF to look like the predicate calculus,  let
 > the arity > 2,  and then say it is
 something new so we can escape the RDF
 >
 name.
 > 
 > In fact, 
 let's just call it "ISO Common Logic",
 > 
 > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_logic
 > 
 > Most of the
 "cool kids" weren't around in the 1980s so
 they don't have the
 > bad taste in
 their mouth left by the predicate calculus.
 > 
 > I don't see any
 problem with extending SPARQL to arity > 2 facts,  we
 can
 > let OWL dry and blow away.
 > 
 > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014
 at 10:47 AM, Gannon Dick 
 wrote:
 > 
 > > +1,
 nicely put Kingsley
 > > --Gannon
 > >
 
 > > On Fri, 9/19/14, Kingsley Idehen
 
 wrote:
 > >
 > > 
 Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving
 Linked Data
 > >  To: public-lod@w3.org
 > >  Date: Friday, September 19, 2014,
 5:48 PM
 > >
 >
 >
 > >      On 9/19/14 4:38
 PM,
 > >  Brent Shambaugh
 > >        wrote:
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >       
 Manu Sporny's post titled "Building
 > >  Linked Data into the Core
 > >          of the Web"
 > >
 > >       
   [
 > > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html]
 > >          led to the question:
 > >
 > >
 > >        is linked data and
 semantic web tech useful? I
 > > 
 think so. I
 > >          can only
 speak from my own perspective and
 >
 >  experience.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >      Brent,
 >
 >
 > >
 > >
 > >      Pasting my reply to Manu
 (with some editing) here, as I
 > > 
 think its
 > >      important:
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >     
 Manu,
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >      It is misleading (albeit
 inadvertent in regards to your
 > > 
 post above)
 > >      to infer that
 Linked Data isn't already the core of
 > >  the Web. The
 >
 >      absolute fact of the matter is that Linked Data
 has been
 > >  the core of
 > >      the Web since it was an idea
 [1][2].
 > >
 >
 >
 > >
 > >
 > >      The Web doesn't work at
 all if HTTP URIs aren't
 > > 
 names for:
 > >
 >
 >
 > >
 > >
 > >      [1] What exists on the Web
 > >
 > >
 > >      [2] What exists, period.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >      We just have the misfortune
 of poor communications
 > >  mucking
 up proper
 > >      comprehension of
 AWWW. For example, RDF should have been
 >
 >  presented
 > >      to the
 world as an effort by the W3C to standardize an
 > >  existing
 >
 >      aspect of the Web i.e., the ability to leverage
 HTTP
 > >  URIs as
 > >      mechanisms for:
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >      1. entity identification
 & naming
 > >
 >
 >
 > >      2. entity description
 using sentences or statements --
 > > 
 where (as is
 > >      the case re.,
 natural language) a sentence or statement
 > >  is comprised
 >
 >      of a subject, predicate, and object.
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >
 > >      Instead, we ended up with an
 incomprehensible,
 > >  indefen

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Michael Brunnbauer]

Hello Paul,

or why don't we just acknowledge that whether your knowledge representation

1) has a formal semantics
2) has a formal syntax
3) is more or less expressive

is a matter of the task at hand.

The whole Web already *is* linked data and I wonder if one day when we will
have the perfect RDF, it will be obsolete. Of course - per the above - it
would still have its use cases.

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 11:25:43AM -0400, Paul Houle wrote:
> Why don't we just reorganize RDF to look like the predicate calculus,  let
> the arity > 2,  and then say it is something new so we can escape the RDF
> name.
> 
> In fact,  let's just call it "ISO Common Logic",
> 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_logic
> 
> Most of the "cool kids" weren't around in the 1980s so they don't have the
> bad taste in their mouth left by the predicate calculus.
> 
> I don't see any problem with extending SPARQL to arity > 2 facts,  we can
> let OWL dry and blow away.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Gannon Dick  wrote:
> 
> > +1, nicely put Kingsley
> > --Gannon
> > ----------------
> > On Fri, 9/19/14, Kingsley Idehen  wrote:
> >
> >  Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
> >  To: public-lod@w3.org
> >  Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 5:48 PM
> >
> >
> >  On 9/19/14 4:38 PM,
> >  Brent Shambaugh
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >Manu Sporny's post titled "Building
> >  Linked Data into the Core
> >  of the Web"
> >
> >  [
> > http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html]
> >  led to the question:
> >
> >
> >is linked data and semantic web tech useful? I
> >  think so. I
> >  can only speak from my own perspective and
> >  experience.
> >
> >
> >
> >  Brent,
> >
> >
> >
> >  Pasting my reply to Manu (with some editing) here, as I
> >  think its
> >  important:
> >
> >
> >
> >  Manu,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  It is misleading (albeit inadvertent in regards to your
> >  post above)
> >  to infer that Linked Data isn't already the core of
> >  the Web. The
> >  absolute fact of the matter is that Linked Data has been
> >  the core of
> >  the Web since it was an idea [1][2].
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  The Web doesn't work at all if HTTP URIs aren't
> >  names for:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  [1] What exists on the Web
> >
> >
> >  [2] What exists, period.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  We just have the misfortune of poor communications
> >  mucking up proper
> >  comprehension of AWWW. For example, RDF should have been
> >  presented
> >  to the world as an effort by the W3C to standardize an
> >  existing
> >  aspect of the Web i.e., the ability to leverage HTTP
> >  URIs as
> >  mechanisms for:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  1. entity identification & naming
> >
> >
> >  2. entity description using sentences or statements --
> >  where (as is
> >  the case re., natural language) a sentence or statement
> >  is comprised
> >  of a subject, predicate, and object.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Instead, we ended up with an incomprehensible,
> >  indefensible, and at
> >  best draconian narrative that has forever tainted the
> >  letters
> >  "R-D-F" .  And to compount matters,
> >  "HttpRange-14" has become
> >  censorship tool (based on its ridiculous history), that
> >  blurs fixing
> >  this horrible state of affairs.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Links:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  [1] http://bit.ly/10Y9FL1
> >  -- Evidence that Linked Data was always at the core of
> >  the Web
> >  (excuse some instability on my personal data space
> >  instance, at this
> >  point in time, should you encounter issues looking up
> >  the document
> >  identified by this HTTP URI)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  [2]
> > http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2014/03/world-wide-web-25-years-later.html
> >  -- World Wide Web, 25 years later
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  [3]
> > h

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Paul Houle]

Why don't we just reorganize RDF to look like the predicate calculus,  let
the arity > 2,  and then say it is something new so we can escape the RDF
name.

In fact,  let's just call it "ISO Common Logic",

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_logic

Most of the "cool kids" weren't around in the 1980s so they don't have the
bad taste in their mouth left by the predicate calculus.

I don't see any problem with extending SPARQL to arity > 2 facts,  we can
let OWL dry and blow away.

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Gannon Dick  wrote:

> +1, nicely put Kingsley
> --Gannon
> 
> On Fri, 9/19/14, Kingsley Idehen  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
>  To: public-lod@w3.org
>  Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 5:48 PM
>
>
>  On 9/19/14 4:38 PM,
>  Brent Shambaugh
>wrote:
>
>
>
>Manu Sporny's post titled "Building
>  Linked Data into the Core
>  of the Web"
>
>  [
> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html]
>  led to the question:
>
>
>is linked data and semantic web tech useful? I
>  think so. I
>  can only speak from my own perspective and
>  experience.
>
>
>
>  Brent,
>
>
>
>  Pasting my reply to Manu (with some editing) here, as I
>  think its
>  important:
>
>
>
>  Manu,
>
>
>
>
>  It is misleading (albeit inadvertent in regards to your
>  post above)
>  to infer that Linked Data isn't already the core of
>  the Web. The
>  absolute fact of the matter is that Linked Data has been
>  the core of
>  the Web since it was an idea [1][2].
>
>
>
>
>  The Web doesn't work at all if HTTP URIs aren't
>  names for:
>
>
>
>
>  [1] What exists on the Web
>
>
>  [2] What exists, period.
>
>
>
>
>  We just have the misfortune of poor communications
>  mucking up proper
>  comprehension of AWWW. For example, RDF should have been
>  presented
>  to the world as an effort by the W3C to standardize an
>  existing
>  aspect of the Web i.e., the ability to leverage HTTP
>  URIs as
>  mechanisms for:
>
>
>
>
>  1. entity identification & naming
>
>
>  2. entity description using sentences or statements --
>  where (as is
>  the case re., natural language) a sentence or statement
>  is comprised
>  of a subject, predicate, and object.
>
>
>
>
>  Instead, we ended up with an incomprehensible,
>  indefensible, and at
>  best draconian narrative that has forever tainted the
>  letters
>  "R-D-F" .  And to compount matters,
>  "HttpRange-14" has become
>  censorship tool (based on its ridiculous history), that
>  blurs fixing
>  this horrible state of affairs.
>
>
>
>
>  Links:
>
>
>
>
>  [1] http://bit.ly/10Y9FL1
>  -- Evidence that Linked Data was always at the core of
>  the Web
>  (excuse some instability on my personal data space
>  instance, at this
>  point in time, should you encounter issues looking up
>  the document
>  identified by this HTTP URI)
>
>
>
>
>  [2]
> http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2014/03/world-wide-web-25-years-later.html
>  -- World Wide Web, 25 years later
>
>
>
>
>  [3]
> http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/04/b4/79/04b4794ccf2b6fd14ed3c822be26382f.jpg
>  -- Illustrating identification (naming) on the Web (re.,
>  things that
>  exist on or off the Web medium) .
>
>
>
>
>  --
>
>
>
>  --
>  Regards,
>
>  Kingsley Idehen
>  Founder & CEO
>  OpenLink Software
>  Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
>  Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com
>  Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
>  Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen
>  Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about
>  LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
>  Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this
>
>
>
>


-- 
Paul Houle
Expert on Freebase, DBpedia, Hadoop and RDF
(607) 539 6254paul.houle on Skype   ontolo...@gmail.com
http://legalentityidentifier.info/lei/lookup

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Gannon Dick]

+1, nicely put Kingsley
--Gannon

On Fri, 9/19/14, Kingsley Idehen  wrote:

 Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
 To: public-lod@w3.org
 Date: Friday, September 19, 2014, 5:48 PM
 
 
 On 9/19/14 4:38 PM,
 Brent Shambaugh
   wrote:
 
 
 
   Manu Sporny's post titled "Building
 Linked Data into the Core
 of the Web"
 
 
[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html]
 led to the question:
 
   
   is linked data and semantic web tech useful? I
 think so. I
 can only speak from my own perspective and
 experience.
 
 
 
 Brent,
 
 
 
 Pasting my reply to Manu (with some editing) here, as I
 think its
 important:
 
 
 
 Manu,
 
 
 
 
 It is misleading (albeit inadvertent in regards to your
 post above)
 to infer that Linked Data isn't already the core of
 the Web. The
 absolute fact of the matter is that Linked Data has been
 the core of
 the Web since it was an idea [1][2].
 
 
 
 
 The Web doesn't work at all if HTTP URIs aren't
 names for:
 
 
 
 
 [1] What exists on the Web
 
 
 [2] What exists, period.
 
 
 
 
 We just have the misfortune of poor communications
 mucking up proper
 comprehension of AWWW. For example, RDF should have been
 presented
 to the world as an effort by the W3C to standardize an
 existing
 aspect of the Web i.e., the ability to leverage HTTP
 URIs as
 mechanisms for:
 
 
 
 
 1. entity identification & naming
 
 
 2. entity description using sentences or statements --
 where (as is
 the case re., natural language) a sentence or statement
 is comprised
 of a subject, predicate, and object.
 
 
 
 
 Instead, we ended up with an incomprehensible,
 indefensible, and at
 best draconian narrative that has forever tainted the
 letters
 "R-D-F" .  And to compount matters,
 "HttpRange-14" has become
 censorship tool (based on its ridiculous history), that
 blurs fixing
 this horrible state of affairs.
 
 
 
 
 Links:
 
 
 
 
 [1] http://bit.ly/10Y9FL1
 -- Evidence that Linked Data was always at the core of
 the Web
 (excuse some instability on my personal data space
 instance, at this
 point in time, should you encounter issues looking up
 the document
 identified by this HTTP URI)
 
 
 
 
 [2] http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2014/03/world-wide-web-25-years-later.html
 -- World Wide Web, 25 years later
 
 
 
 
 [3] 
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/04/b4/79/04b4794ccf2b6fd14ed3c822be26382f.jpg
 -- Illustrating identification (naming) on the Web (re.,
 things that
 exist on or off the Web medium) .
 
 
 
 
 -- 
 
 
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 
 Kingsley Idehen  
 Founder & CEO 
 OpenLink Software 
 Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
 Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com
 Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
 Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen
 Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/+KingsleyIdehen/about
 LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen
 Personal WebID: http://kingsley.idehen.net/dataspace/person/kidehen#this
 

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Kingsley Idehen]

On 9/19/14 4:38 PM, Brent Shambaugh wrote:

Manu Sporny's post titled "Building Linked Data into the Core of the Web"
[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html 
] 
led to the question:
is linked data and semantic web tech useful? I think so. I can only 
speak from my own perspective and experience.


Brent,

Pasting my reply to Manu (with some editing) here, as I think its important:

Manu,

It is misleading (albeit inadvertent in regards to your post above) to 
infer that Linked Data isn't already the core of the Web. The absolute 
fact of the matter is that Linked Data has been the core of the Web 
since it was an idea [1][2].


The Web doesn't work at all if HTTP URIs aren't names for:

[1] What exists on the Web
[2] What exists, period.

We just have the misfortune of poor communications mucking up proper 
comprehension of AWWW. For example, RDF should have been presented to 
the world as an effort by the W3C to standardize an existing aspect of 
the Web i.e., the ability to leverage HTTP URIs as mechanisms for:


1. entity identification & naming
2. entity description using sentences or statements -- where (as is the 
case re., natural language) a sentence or statement is comprised of a 
subject, predicate, and object.


Instead, we ended up with an incomprehensible, indefensible, and at best 
draconian narrative that has forever tainted the letters "R-D-F" .  And 
to compount matters, "HttpRange-14" has become censorship tool (based on 
its ridiculous history), that blurs fixing this horrible state of affairs.


Links:

[1] http://bit.ly/10Y9FL1 -- Evidence that Linked Data was always at the 
core of the Web (excuse some instability on my personal data space 
instance, at this point in time, should you encounter issues looking up 
the document identified by this HTTP URI)


[2] 
http://kidehen.blogspot.com/2014/03/world-wide-web-25-years-later.html 
-- World Wide Web, 25 years later


[3] 
http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/04/b4/79/04b4794ccf2b6fd14ed3c822be26382f.jpg 
-- Illustrating identification (naming) on the Web (re., things that 
exist on or off the Web medium) .


--

--
Regards,

Kingsley Idehen 
Founder & CEO
OpenLink Software
Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Personal Weblog 1: http://kidehen.blogspot.com
Personal Weblog 2: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
Twitter Profile: https://twitter.com/kidehen
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Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Brent Shambaugh]

Manu Sporny's post titled "Building Linked Data into the Core of the Web"
[http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webpayments/2014Sep/0063.html
]
led to the question:
is linked data and semantic web tech useful? I think so. I can only speak
from my own perspective and experience.

I am not sure what to call it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_production
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_manufacturing
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons-based_peer_production

But I produced a website wire frame:
http://bshambaugh.org/eispp3.pdf

With the following main components described by the following resources:

natural language query box gives documents and entities from ontologies
(MFernandez_thesis.pdf)
[
http://www.jabenitez.com/personal/MASTER/TFM/COMPLETO/ESTADO%20DEL%20ARTE%20BORRADOR/FUENTES/thesis_MiriamFernandez.pdf
]

entities are linked to ontologies...ontologies may be queried using their
structure with OB in
(EISPP_OB.pdf) with (paper3.pdf)
[http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-565/paper3.pdf]

ontologies may also be queried with SPARQL (
http://www.w3.org/TR/rdf-sparql-query/) or SQWRL
(owled2009_submission_42.pdf [for questions about particular numbers]) {for
looking at value
networks, bartering systems, etc,}
[http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-529/owled2009_submission_42.pdf]

Protege may be loaded from the protege button (http://protege.stanford.edu/)
once structured data is loaded from querying an ontology, or performing a
SQWRL, or a SPARQL
query...
[http://protegewiki.stanford.edu/wiki/WebProtege]

Views may include the object process methodology (Dori.pdf and
ER2003PT1Dori.pdf)
[
http://esml.iem.technion.ac.il/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/SWDB-2003Dori-OPM-Semantic-Web.pdf
]
[http://www.er.byu.edu/er2003/slides/ER2003PT1Dori.pdf]

A standard node-edge graph (http://www.w3.org/2001/11/IsaViz/).

a ranked list (http://lucene.apache.org/core/) with ontologies
(MFernandez_thesis.pdf)
facets for navigation of information (ch 2 of thesis_hollenbach.pdf) 
with hierarchies in ontologies
[http://dig.csail.mit.edu/2010/rdf-widgets/thesis.pdf]

...lists of ontologies...etc on the right hand panel in eispp3.pdf

fresnel lenses for filtering out unwanted information (fresnel.pdf)
[http://iswc2006.semanticweb.org/items/Bizer2006kl.pdf]

Applications are ordered according to the Simantics concept (simantics.org,
Simantics_Presentation_17_compressed.pdf)
[
https://www.simantics.org/simantics/documents/Simantics_Presentation_17_compressed.pdf
]


They use ISO15926 for integration (https://www.posccaesar.org/wiki/ISO15926).
An impressive
example is the process plant example
(FinnishOpenFOAMUsersDay2010_GayerVTT.pdf)
[
http://static.squarespace.com/static/51bec4d2e4b0d7c68c769459/51bec58ee4b084d49489bb8d/51bec598e4b084d49489bc76/1371456920022/FinnishOpenFOAMUsersDay2010_GayerVTT.pdf?format=original
]

Etherpad (http://etherpad.org/) might be integrated with RDfa (
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml-rdfa-
primer/) markup for integration with semantic data (important for
integration with ISO15926 data and
value network data)

The P2P network architecture might be oriented as a node-arc graph like in
(http://www.w3.org/2001/11/IsaViz/) except that each node would represent a
separate processing node
... and you might have a drag and drop methodology or some way of selecting
nodes...perhaps mapped
by geolocation ...and structured data search...perhaps SQRWL could be used
to find the lowest
bidder ...bartering can be done as in (emodelsgrid.pdf)
[http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/cpe.690/abstract]

Value networks...or the interactions between each team ..or within a team
would be modelled with an
REA accounting model (McCarthy.pdf --> REA_ontology_uml.pdf --> rea.owl
(ontology expressed as
xml by me)) ... used in practice by Bob Haugen working for the sensorica
project
(http://www.sensorica.co/), http://valuenetwork.referata.com/wiki/Main_Page)
[https://www.msu.edu/~mccarth4/McCarthy.pdf]
[http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-160/paper22.pdf]


Use Ripple to transfer forms of value (https://ripple.com/)

Cryptocurrency ...Enhance with Ethereum integration ... (
https://www.ethereum.org/) ...for smart
contracts...etc...

Triples may be edited...preferably by editing visually ...using Hollenbachs
web widgets
(thesis_hollenbach.pdf [presented earlier])

Provenance ... concurrent version control (like git or github) for the
instances of ontologies (and
perhaps ontologies themselves) with R &W Base (ldow2013-paper-01.pdf)
[http://ceur-ws.org/Vol-996/papers/ldow2013-paper-01.pdf]

Make requests to buy something using VRM (
http://projectdanube.org/videos/video-the-three-
visions/)  select products or parts expressed as instances of
(
http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/BestPractices/OEP/SimplePartWhole/simple-part-whole-relations-
v1.3.html)  (produced by value networks representing teams, people,
companies, virtual
enterprises ... etc)

Select printers by IP address and have 

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program]

2013 will see the advent of new paradigms for infrastructures that up until now 
where centralized, i.e. electric power generation and distribution, intermodal 
transportation and logistics, food and agro-industrial production and 
distribution, industrial production and distribution, consumer products 
manufacturing and distribution, pharmaceuticals production and distribution, 
energy extraction and distribution (including coal, gas, shale oil/gas and 
biofuels).

The data and telecom infrastructure and parallel the banking and financial 
sectors are the only ones espousing decentralized distributed P2P (and B2B) 
processes.

Resilience is a property that can only be achieved by copying the structure of 
the internet and some of its inherent characteristics.

By defining strategic infrastructures as decentralized networks of distributed 
P2P (B2B) processes embedded in an intelligent grid it becomes possible to 
define resilience in a way similar to the resilience of the Internet.

And a resilient grid lends itself perfectly to embedding in a semantic web 
overlay grid.


The Industrial Internet as defined by GE and outlined in a recent white paper 
comes pretty close to it but not quite yet.

See http://www.gereports.com/meeting-of-minds-and-machines/.

 
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 From: Brent Shambaugh 
To: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program  
Cc: Michel Bauwens ; Samuel Rose 
; "public-lod@w3.org" ; Paul 
Cockshott  
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2013 2:10 AM
Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
 

Oh well, I'll share my story on a W3C forum no less.

Model, true. Would my experiences even translate? I think you'd have to see 
this from my own personal perspective. Even though I grew up in an American 
home there was a lot of discourse in my family. There wasn't a lot of room for 
personal expression, and my family was very religious so I was afraid of 
offending God if I went against the dominating figure and/or ideology in the 
family. I was also very shy growing up, and I did not have much money, even 
though I came from an upper middle class family. I felt out of place most of 
the time, and sometimes I had ideas that people did not seem to understand or 
be interested in. I liked computers, and wanted to learn more about them. I was 
always asking people doing computer stuff how to program, even though I had a 
lot of trouble doing it myself. I think it was because I struggled with algebra 
(and other maths), but more so algebra. I also was a bit lost in some 
documentation, and may have not been fully aware
 of other resources that may have helped. I was afraid of tinkering, but I 
built webpages and was proud of them and I also built structures in the woods 
(but that is a bit off topic). My family paid for my college. I'm thankful for 
that, but it also leaves me with a feeling of responsibility to them. I'll 
admit to not being in sync with things in my undergraduate years. It looks very 
good if you have an internship. But at the time I made a few mistakes perhaps. 
I was a bit afraid to try because the companies I qualified for either were not 
doing something that interested me and/or something that I felt reflected my 
beliefs, values and possibly something else that is hard to describe. In short, 
perhaps passion. Over time I realized that it would probably be wiser to accept 
things as is if I ever hoped to be employed. Making the sale was difficult 
though. I think perhaps people think I'm lazy, or uniformed, because I did not 
work (except for academic
 things) in college. Or was it emotion? Ideas out of place? I was also affected 
by many of the same family things growing up.

I have an interest in physics, electronics, economics, systems, etc. I think 
that if I ever hope to use my education, and share what I have learned, I need 
to do something amazing. I could go back to school, take on a lot of debt, and 
just hope that I get enough good grades to impress enough people (and not have 
them think I'd get bored when trying to get a job). Or I could learn things on 
my own, participate in projects, and hope that people receive me with open arms.

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Samuel Rose]

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Samuel Rose  wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Brent Shambaugh
>  wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
>> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
>> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
>> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
>> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
>> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
>> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
>>
>> It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/
>>
>> If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
>> discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.
>>
>> -Brent
>>
>>
>>
>
> Brent, I'd like to humbly suggest that it might be worth your time to
> become acquainted with the http://p2pfoundation.net (The Foundation
> for Peer-to-Peer alternatives). I've copied P2PF founder Michel
> Bauwens on this email, as well. P2PF is interested in people carrying
> out legitimate explorations into distributed economies.
>



For what it's worth, I am quietly and privately experimenting with
integrating RDF data/SPARQL endpoints into various local and regional
projects, exploring and attempting to find a good model for
integrating with tools people already use for solving real-world
problems (food production being the my current area of focus.)

Also, of course, exploring sound use of existing vocabularies, and
when needed, exploring the creation of new vocabularies via
http://neologism.deri.ie/ tool. The goal is to start building public
data of many kinds around local and regional food production in the
midwest USA region that I am in now. I think that eventually
publishing this data will lead to the possibility of participating in
experiments in economics around the data. Previous work in this space
has taught me the lesson that many of you are reflecting in this
thread: it all starts with having the actual data. People need to get
it published in an interoperable way. Then, the door is open to
explore multiple plausible outcomes in reality. So, now, I am quietly
and carfefully focusing on that data. Thanks for all of your  work and
general advice. I am looking forward to ramping all of this up in the
coming months.





>
> --
> --
> Sam Rose
> Hollymead Capital Partners, LLC
> Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
> email: samuel.r...@gmail.com
> http://hollymeadcapital.com
> http://p2pfoundation.net
> http://socialmediaclassroom.com
>
> "The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
> ambition." - Carl Sagan



--
--
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Hollymead Capital Partners, LLC
Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
email: samuel.r...@gmail.com
http://hollymeadcapital.com
http://p2pfoundation.net
http://socialmediaclassroom.com

"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
ambition." - Carl Sagan

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Brent Shambaugh]

Oh well, I'll share my story on a W3C forum no less.

Model, true. Would my experiences even translate? I think you'd have to see
this from my own personal perspective. Even though I grew up in an American
home there was a lot of discourse in my family. There wasn't a lot of room
for personal expression, and my family was very religious so I was afraid
of offending God if I went against the dominating figure and/or ideology in
the family. I was also very shy growing up, and I did not have much money,
even though I came from an upper middle class family. I felt out of place
most of the time, and sometimes I had ideas that people did not seem to
understand or be interested in. I liked computers, and wanted to learn more
about them. I was always asking people doing computer stuff how to program,
even though I had a lot of trouble doing it myself. I think it was because
I struggled with algebra (and other maths), but more so algebra. I also was
a bit lost in some documentation, and may have not been fully aware of
other resources that may have helped. I was afraid of tinkering, but I
built webpages and was proud of them and I also built structures in the
woods (but that is a bit off topic). My family paid for my college. I'm
thankful for that, but it also leaves me with a feeling of responsibility
to them. I'll admit to not being in sync with things in my undergraduate
years. It looks very good if you have an internship. But at the time I made
a few mistakes perhaps. I was a bit afraid to try because the companies I
qualified for either were not doing something that interested me and/or
something that I felt reflected my beliefs, values and possibly something
else that is hard to describe. In short, perhaps passion. Over time I
realized that it would probably be wiser to accept things as is if I ever
hoped to be employed. Making the sale was difficult though. I think perhaps
people think I'm lazy, or uniformed, because I did not work (except for
academic things) in college. Or was it emotion? Ideas out of place? I was
also affected by many of the same family things growing up.

I have an interest in physics, electronics, economics, systems, etc. I
think that if I ever hope to use my education, and share what I have
learned, I need to do something amazing. I could go back to school, take on
a lot of debt, and just hope that I get enough good grades to impress
enough people (and not have them think I'd get bored when trying to get a
job). Or I could learn things on my own, participate in projects, and hope
that people receive me with open arms.

Since 2007 when I discovered Polywell nuclear fusion I've gained new
perspective on the world. I never actually built a fusion reactor, but I
did try to learn what was behind them. This motivated me to read lots of
books, and my desire to do other things to explore my uniqueness as an
individual led to even more books. GNU/Linux facilitated my graduate work,
and I can relate to it's philosophy through my many frustrations. Open
source is great, because I don't have to worry so much about my skills
wasting away. Being at the university also helps. I also don't have to
manufacture things or do anything special to have excitement about it.

But you know, how much can you actually get from someone who hasn't
experienced that much real employment? Because of that automatically people
see me in a certain way. And my views may not be necessarily realistic for
lack of experience. But whatever it is, it seems I have have found a lot of
energy and my friends seem to notice. I think about what I am learning more
too.

But would this model help people in the real world? I feel that had it
existed it could have helped me growing up, but that is my own personal
experience. In addition to studying, a lot of my peers spent their time
drinking beer, socializing, and playing and/or watching sports. And most
seemed to have more money. Now most seem to have even more money, and spend
time on Facebook talking about things they have bought or families that
they are raising. Their educational level is hard to discern. Not many seem
to be posting things about hacking, making or things that might suggest
deep insight. But not everyone fits that.

I guess what matters is whether it will work or not, and whether it truly
will benefit others. For that both an experiment and conversation will
help. Thank you Samuel for referring me to Michael. Milton, I am not
certain what it will do yet.

I am not certain what resilience truly means. I'm definitely bothered by
the wastefulness brought upon by obsolescence of products. It would be much
better I think if we knew how they worked so we could reuse the them (I'm
saying the parts) in other things. We've had this problem at the
hackerspace. We have lots of stuff around that if we had the blueprint, it
would be much better. If we knew how this blueprint connected to other
things I personally think that would be even better.

On a separate issue. In graduat

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Brent Shambaugh]

I'm feeling that this is shaped by my own personal experience? I'm willing,
but should I risk putting it out there?

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program]

I brought up the issue because the current UN models for sustainable 
development lack conceptual frameworks to model P2P distributed processes in 
general and resilience.


 
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 From: Michel Bauwens 
To: ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program  
Cc: Samuel Rose ; Brent Shambaugh 
; "public-lod@w3.org" ; Paul 
Cockshott  
Sent: Tuesday, January 8, 2013 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
 

thanks for the connection ... I'm not sure there is no misunderstanding of what 
we do; we don't really build models, but are a depository of p2p initiatives 
from various other players and we try to make sense of what is happening on the 
ground;

personally, I put a lot of attention to sustainability, not through models, but 
by reporting and supporting practices of open design, which are most often 
implicitely resilient, since there is no intrinsic need for planned obsolesence 
and other artificial waste and scarcity strategies for peer production 
communities; there is a growing movement of open design resilience, 
sustainability, renewable energy, open technology transfer etc ..

Roberto Verzola is to my mind the political economist who has done most in 
studying this, see http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:Commons_Economics ; 
Wolfgang Hoeschele is planning an ambitious database based on a Needs, 
Organisational REsources, (I forgot what the A stands for)


I'm  sure that the proposed modelling effort will contribute to this field; if 
you are ideologically open, you may also want to talk with people like Paul 
Cockshott and the people of the Center for Transition Science at UNAM in Mexico 
City; who are very good at econometric modelling and interested in a cybernetic 
planning revival, 

Michel


On Tue, Jan 8, 2013 at 8:27 PM, ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program 
 wrote:

the P2P Foundation is onto something big but its models still fail to 
incorporate sustainable development models that are resilient.
>
>Mathematically it calls for a restraint based demand and supply based economic 
>modelling in which the peer definition is generalized to include non human 
>entities such as ecosystems, individual species and specific habitats.
>
>Peer to peer processes in addition should be defined as geography independent, 
>historically nomads, hunter gatherers and technomads in the modern age all 
>show this to be true.
>
>
>
> 
>Milton Ponson
>GSM: +297 747 8280
>PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for sustainable 
>development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT tools for NGOs 
>worldwide and: providing online access to web sites and repositories of data 
>and information for sustainable development
>
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>
>
>
>
> From: Samuel Rose 
>To: Brent Shambaugh ; Michel Bauwens 
> 
>Cc: public-lod@w3.org 
>Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 2:10 PM
>Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
> 
>
>On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Brent Shambaugh
> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
>> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
>> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
>> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
>> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
>> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
>> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
>

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program]

the P2P Foundation is onto something big but its models still fail to 
incorporate sustainable development models that are resilient.

Mathematically it calls for a restraint based demand and supply based economic 
modelling in which the peer definition is generalized to include non human 
entities such as ecosystems, individual species and specific habitats.

Peer to peer processes in addition should be defined as geography independent, 
historically nomads, hunter gatherers and technomads in the modern age all show 
this to be true.


 
Milton Ponson
GSM: +297 747 8280
PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for sustainable 
development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT tools for NGOs 
worldwide and: providing online access to web sites and repositories of data 
and information for sustainable development

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 From: Samuel Rose 
To: Brent Shambaugh ; Michel Bauwens 
 
Cc: public-lod@w3.org 
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2013 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
 
On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Brent Shambaugh
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
>
> It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/
>
> If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
> discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.
>
> -Brent
>
>
>

Brent, I'd like to humbly suggest that it might be worth your time to
become acquainted with the http://p2pfoundation.net (The Foundation
for Peer-to-Peer alternatives). I've copied P2PF founder Michel
Bauwens on this email, as well. P2PF is interested in people carrying
out legitimate explorations into distributed economies.


--
--
Sam Rose
Hollymead Capital Partners, LLC
Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
email: samuel.r...@gmail.com
http://hollymeadcapital.com
http://p2pfoundation.net
http://socialmediaclassroom.com

"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
ambition." - Carl Sagan

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Kingsley Idehen]

On 1/7/13 12:35 PM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:

Hello Kingsley,

On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 12:22:48PM -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

I am seriously proposing they publish Turtle documents to the Web :-)

[...]

Try it out with your kids, family members, and friends outside the
Semantic Web and Linked Data communities you'll have an amazing amount
of fun when you open up the documents via a Turtle processor (many of
which are browser extensions) [1], especially when you cross reference
to DBpedia, FOAF etc..

Why should anyone who did not miss Mosaic and everything after it have fun
with this ?


I can't answer that question until you try it out. That's said, here's 
an attempt bearing in mind my opening comment:


The interconnected issues at hand are as follows:

1. data representation
2. data access & connectivity
3. data integration
4. data dissemination
5. data indexing and querying -- crux of what's covered by data management.

HTML simplified the above, but for the information space dimension of 
the Web i.e., the Document (or Blurb) Web.
RSS/Atom simplified the above re.,  the general desire to rapidly 
produce and share content on the Web without requiring the author to use 
HTML.
RDF/XML attempted to address 1-5 (for structured data) but failed 
woefully by choosing XML -- the triple was mangled in XML that just 
doesn't work for humans (and the machine pitch was a broken cop out).


Turtle fixes what RDF/XML broke. It provides a very simple mechanism for 
constructing and understanding digital sentences (comprised of 
subject->predicate->object or subject->verb-object triples) that serve 
1-5 with aplomb.


All that's missing is for everyone to (maybe) read or re-read the Clay 
Shirky article [1] I published earlier, it does a fantastic job of 
explaining the fundamentals of Web bootstrap.


Linked Data is just another aspect of the Web. Turtle is an effective 
syntax for taking Webby structured data (re. points 1-5 above) to the 
masses.



Links:

1. http://bit.ly/XAyU3F -- understanding the Web bootstrap (which also 
applies to Linked Data and other Web dimensions of the future).


Kingsley



Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer




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Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Samuel Rose]

On Mon, Dec 31, 2012 at 9:16 PM, Brent Shambaugh
 wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
>
> It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/
>
> If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
> discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.
>
> -Brent
>
>
>

Brent, I'd like to humbly suggest that it might be worth your time to
become acquainted with the http://p2pfoundation.net (The Foundation
for Peer-to-Peer alternatives). I've copied P2PF founder Michel
Bauwens on this email, as well. P2PF is interested in people carrying
out legitimate explorations into distributed economies.


--
--
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Hollymead Capital Partners, LLC
Cel: +1-(517)-974-6451
email: samuel.r...@gmail.com
http://hollymeadcapital.com
http://p2pfoundation.net
http://socialmediaclassroom.com

"The universe is not required to be in perfect harmony with human
ambition." - Carl Sagan

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Michael Brunnbauer]

Hello Kingsley,

On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 12:22:48PM -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> I am seriously proposing they publish Turtle documents to the Web :-)
[...]
> Try it out with your kids, family members, and friends outside the 
> Semantic Web and Linked Data communities you'll have an amazing amount 
> of fun when you open up the documents via a Turtle processor (many of 
> which are browser extensions) [1], especially when you cross reference 
> to DBpedia, FOAF etc..

Why should anyone who did not miss Mosaic and everything after it have fun
with this ?

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

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Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 6 January 2013 11:46, Michael Brunnbauer  wrote:

>
> Hello Kingsley,
>
> On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 10:25:32AM -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> > 1. Create documents that describe items of interest
> [...]
> > for time and attention challenged end-users this has to be Turtle
> [...]
> > 4. Make others aware of your document via services like Twitter,
> > Facebook, LinkedIn, G+ etc.. posts
>
> Are you seriously proposing that people should publish links to Turtle
> files
> on social networks ?
>

The turtle may be hidden from the user at some point.  Social networks
publish links to html files, but the user never sees the HTML.


>
> Have you tried this with someone else than your employees ?
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael Brunnbauer
>
> --
> ++  Michael Brunnbauer
> ++  netEstate GmbH
> ++  Geisenhausener Straße 11a
> ++  81379 München
> ++  Tel +49 89 32 19 77 80
> ++  Fax +49 89 32 19 77 89
> ++  E-Mail bru...@netestate.de
> ++  http://www.netestate.de/
> ++
> ++  Sitz: München, HRB Nr.142452 (Handelsregister B München)
> ++  USt-IdNr. DE221033342
> ++  Geschäftsführer: Michael Brunnbauer, Franz Brunnbauer
> ++  Prokurist: Dipl. Kfm. (Univ.) Markus Hendel
>
>

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Kingsley Idehen]

On 1/7/13 10:35 AM, Melvin Carvalho wrote:



## Turtle Content Start ##
<> a <#Document> .
<> <#topic> <#i> .
<#i> a <#Person> .
<#i> <#name> "Kingsley Idehen" .
<#i> <#nickname> "@kidehen" .


I wonder if it's better to use : in the predicates, rather than, # ?
Not at step one. Remember, this is about a basic introduction where the 
focal point is showing how Turtle enables simple rendition of basic 
natural language sentence structure. Once the above is assimilate, you 
have context for showcasing the benefits of cross referencing with 
existing vocabularies e.g., FOAF. Thus, the next step would include the 
addition of a cross reference section that goes something like this:


## Step 2 of 3 ##
## Predicate/Verb Cross References ##

<#Document>  
 .
<#Person>  
 .
<#topic>  
 .
<#name>  
 .
<#nickname>  
 .


After the above has been assimilated and their effects appreciated, you 
have context for introducing prefixes:


## Step 3 or 3 ##
## Predicate/Verb Cross References using prefixes to reference namespaces ##

@prefix owl:  .
@prefix foaf:  .

<#Document> owl:equivalentClass foaf:Document .
<#Person> owl:equivalentClass foaf:Person .
<#topic> owl:equivalentProperty foaf:topic .
<#name> owl:equivalentProperty foaf:name .
<#nickname> owl:equivalentProperty foaf:nick .


--

Regards,

Kingsley Idehen 
Founder & CEO
OpenLink Software
Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about
LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen






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Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 6 January 2013 18:22, Kingsley Idehen  wrote:

> On 1/6/13 5:46 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:
>
>> Hello Kingsley,
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 10:25:32AM -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
>>
>>> 1. Create documents that describe items of interest
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> for time and attention challenged end-users this has to be Turtle
>>>
>> [...]
>>
>>> 4. Make others aware of your document via services like Twitter,
>>> Facebook, LinkedIn, G+ etc.. posts
>>>
>> Are you seriously proposing that people should publish links to Turtle
>> files
>> on social networks ?
>>
>
> No.
>
> I am seriously proposing they publish Turtle documents to the Web :-)
>
>
>
>> Have you tried this with someone else than your employees ?
>>
>
> Yes, all my kids, my siblings and personal friends. The results are all
> the same, the come to grok the concept of "digital sentences" that are just
> short hand for natural language sentences.
>
> As I said, my conversation starts on the following fundamental premise:
> illiteracy is a shortcut to competitive disadvantage in the physical world,
> since that's a fact, why would it be any different in a digital realm like
> the Web?
>
> Assuming literate humans can't grok Turtle is one of the biggest mistakes
> many of us made (myself included) many years ago.
>
> ## Natural Language Content Start ##
> This is a Document about me (as in I).
> Document content is as follows:
> I am a Person.
> My name is Kingsley Idehen.
> My nickname is @kidehen.
>
> ## End ##
>
> ## Turtle Content Start ##
> <> a <#Document> .
> <> <#topic> <#i> .
> <#i> a <#Person> .
> <#i> <#name> "Kingsley Idehen" .
> <#i> <#nickname> "@kidehen" .
>

I wonder if it's better to use : in the predicates, rather than, # ?


>
> ## End ##
>
> Try it out with your kids, family members, and friends outside the
> Semantic Web and Linked Data communities you'll have an amazing amount of
> fun when you open up the documents via a Turtle processor (many of which
> are browser extensions) [1], especially when you cross reference to
> DBpedia, FOAF etc..
>
> Links:
>
> 1. http://ode.openlinksw.com -- an example of an RDF processor (for all
> the syntaxes) that installs as a browser extension, across all major
> browser (you can make it automatically handle mime type: text/turtle,
> within Chrome, Firefox, and possibly Safari, if that's been released )  .
>
> Happy New Year!
>
>
>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Michael Brunnbauer
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Kingsley Idehen
> Founder & CEO
> OpenLink Software
> Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
> Personal Weblog: 
> http://www.openlinksw.com/**blog/~kidehen
> Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
> Google+ Profile: 
> https://plus.google.com/**112399767740508618350/about
> LinkedIn Profile: 
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/**kidehen
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Kingsley Idehen]

On 1/6/13 5:46 AM, Michael Brunnbauer wrote:

Hello Kingsley,

On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 10:25:32AM -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:

1. Create documents that describe items of interest

[...]

for time and attention challenged end-users this has to be Turtle

[...]

4. Make others aware of your document via services like Twitter,
Facebook, LinkedIn, G+ etc.. posts

Are you seriously proposing that people should publish links to Turtle files
on social networks ?


No.

I am seriously proposing they publish Turtle documents to the Web :-)



Have you tried this with someone else than your employees ?


Yes, all my kids, my siblings and personal friends. The results are all 
the same, the come to grok the concept of "digital sentences" that are 
just short hand for natural language sentences.


As I said, my conversation starts on the following fundamental premise: 
illiteracy is a shortcut to competitive disadvantage in the physical 
world, since that's a fact, why would it be any different in a digital 
realm like the Web?


Assuming literate humans can't grok Turtle is one of the biggest 
mistakes many of us made (myself included) many years ago.


## Natural Language Content Start ##
This is a Document about me (as in I).
Document content is as follows:
I am a Person.
My name is Kingsley Idehen.
My nickname is @kidehen.

## End ##

## Turtle Content Start ##
<> a <#Document> .
<> <#topic> <#i> .
<#i> a <#Person> .
<#i> <#name> "Kingsley Idehen" .
<#i> <#nickname> "@kidehen" .

## End ##

Try it out with your kids, family members, and friends outside the 
Semantic Web and Linked Data communities you'll have an amazing amount 
of fun when you open up the documents via a Turtle processor (many of 
which are browser extensions) [1], especially when you cross reference 
to DBpedia, FOAF etc..


Links:

1. http://ode.openlinksw.com -- an example of an RDF processor (for all 
the syntaxes) that installs as a browser extension, across all major 
browser (you can make it automatically handle mime type: text/turtle, 
within Chrome, Firefox, and possibly Safari, if that's been released )  .


Happy New Year!




Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer




--

Regards,

Kingsley Idehen 
Founder & CEO
OpenLink Software
Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about
LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/kidehen







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Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Michael Brunnbauer]

Hello Kingsley,

On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 10:25:32AM -0500, Kingsley Idehen wrote:
> 1. Create documents that describe items of interest
[...]
> for time and attention challenged end-users this has to be Turtle
[...]
> 4. Make others aware of your document via services like Twitter, 
> Facebook, LinkedIn, G+ etc.. posts

Are you seriously proposing that people should publish links to Turtle files 
on social networks ?

Have you tried this with someone else than your employees ?

Regards,

Michael Brunnbauer

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++  81379 München
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Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Melvin Carvalho]

ay have just discovered the hottest new item being kept under wraps,
>> building resilience into all our essential infrastructures and closely
>> emulating the way the Internet is built and works into all other vital
>> infrastructures.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>>
>> Milton Ponson
>> GSM: +297 747 8280
>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>> Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for
>> sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT
>> tools for NGOs worldwide and: providing online access to web sites and
>> repositories of data and information for sustainable development
>>
>> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
>> system manager. This message contains confidential information and is
>> intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee
>> you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
>>
>>   --
>> *From:* Brent Shambaugh 
>> *To:* public-lod@w3.org
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2012 10:16 PM
>> *Subject:* A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
>> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
>> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
>> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
>> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
>> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
>> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
>>
>> It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/
>>
>> If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
>> discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.
>>
>> -Brent
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Kingsley Idehen]

On 1/5/13 1:31 AM, Brent Shambaugh wrote:
Where could this be launched? Small groups. Perhaps a HackerSpace, 
Fablab, or MakerSpace. These people seem to crave something different, 
and since they tend to try to be Renaissance people it just might fly. 
Of course, you still have the selling problem. I've had this problem, 
but it was mostly due to a lack of full understanding of the subject 
area. So, narrowing down, as Eric Ries might suggest, was a bit of a 
problem. I saw on this mailing list that Kingsley Idenhen was trying 
to convice people to use turtle. It's true. It seems a little bit 
easier to understand than RDF/XML. 
The key point, as you eluded to in your initial post, is being able to 
make connections. Circa. 2000 blogging became an official phenomenon 
(note. TimBL started blogging unofficially the day he had a functional 
HTTP server [1] ) and it did so by simplifying the process of producing, 
syndicating, and subscribing to content. Thus, all we need to do is 
tweak this bootstrap pattern by demonstrating to others that the art of 
creating, publishing, and consuming Linked Data goes something like this:


1. Create documents that describe items of interest (personal profiles, 
stuff you like, resumes, job postings etc..) up using an RDF model based 
syntax of choice -- for time and attention challenged end-users this has 
to be Turtle since this effort doesn't get any easier than: <> a 
<#Document>. <#Document> <#topic> <#someTopic> . etc ..


2. Save the document to a local folder

3. Copy the document from a local folder to a Web accessible folder -- 
or you can skip this step and just save to a mounted folder from some 
Web accessible location


4. Make others aware of your document via services like Twitter, 
Facebook, LinkedIn, G+ etc.. posts


5. Back to step 1.

You can't pull this off using an RDBMS system since its a black-box 
designed with a completely different usage pattern for working with data.


Yes, its all about the connections. Hyperlinks are today's connectors, 
so using them to enhance structured data representation is a powerful 
capability that just needs a simpler bootstrap pattern than what's been 
pushed (sorta) in the passed.


From my view point, the Web exploded because of the "view source" 
pattern that was baked into Web browsers. End-users didn't care about 
HTML markup per se., they just learned to copy and paste the markup 
behind the rendered HTML pages presented by browsers.


Links:

1. http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/ -- the blog collection about the Web 
vision and architecture
2. 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/chrisperry/2012/06/01/mary-meekers-2012-trends-take-away-get-ready-to-re-imagine-business/ 
-- note the section of SEO and why its a relic of the past etc..


--

Regards,

Kingsley Idehen 
Founder & CEO
OpenLink Software
Company Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Personal Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen
Twitter/Identi.ca handle: @kidehen
Google+ Profile: https://plus.google.com/112399767740508618350/about
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Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Brent Shambaugh]

 kept under
>>> wraps, building resilience into all our essential infrastructures and
>>> closely emulating the way the Internet is built and works into all other
>>> vital infrastructures.
>>>
>>> cheers
>>>
>>>
>>> Milton Ponson
>>> GSM: +297 747 8280
>>> PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
>>> Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
>>> Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for
>>> sustainable development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT
>>> tools for NGOs worldwide and: providing online access to web sites and
>>> repositories of data and information for sustainable development
>>>
>>> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>>> addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
>>> system manager. This message contains confidential information and is
>>> intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee
>>> you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
>>>
>>>   --
>>> *From:* Brent Shambaugh 
>>> *To:* public-lod@w3.org
>>> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2012 10:16 PM
>>> *Subject:* A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
>>> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
>>> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
>>> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
>>> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
>>> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
>>> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
>>>
>>> It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/
>>>
>>> If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
>>> discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.
>>>
>>> -Brent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Brent Shambaugh]

line access to web sites and
>> repositories of data and information for sustainable development
>>
>> This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and
>> intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are
>> addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the
>> system manager. This message contains confidential information and is
>> intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee
>> you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
>>
>>   --
>> *From:* Brent Shambaugh 
>> *To:* public-lod@w3.org
>> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2012 10:16 PM
>> *Subject:* A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
>> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
>> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
>> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
>> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
>> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
>> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
>>
>> It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/
>>
>> If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
>> discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.
>>
>> -Brent
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Brent Shambaugh]

il.
>
>   ------
> *From:* Brent Shambaugh 
> *To:* public-lod@w3.org
> *Sent:* Monday, December 31, 2012 10:16 PM
> *Subject:* A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
>
> Dear all,
>
> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
>
> It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/
>
> If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
> discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.
>
> -Brent
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[ProjectParadigm-ICT-Program]

You may have just discovered the hottest new item being kept under wraps, 
building resilience into all our essential infrastructures and closely 
emulating the way the Internet is built and works into all other vital 
infrastructures.

cheers


 
Milton Ponson
GSM: +297 747 8280
PO Box 1154, Oranjestad
Aruba, Dutch Caribbean
Project Paradigm: A structured approach to bringing the tools for sustainable 
development to all stakeholders worldwide by creating ICT tools for NGOs 
worldwide and: providing online access to web sites and repositories of data 
and information for sustainable development

This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended 
solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If 
you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This 
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 From: Brent Shambaugh 
To: public-lod@w3.org 
Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 10:16 PM
Subject: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data
 

Dear all,

This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other things. 
It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will work, or that 
I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting thing however, is 
that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are being built. I hope 
that sharing this blog will be of value to the community. I cannot claim to be 
an expert. Actually, my formal education is in Chemical Engineering. But it is 
exciting. 

It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/

If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to discover 
new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.

-Brent

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Melvin Carvalho]

On 1 January 2013 03:16, Brent Shambaugh  wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
>
> It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/
>

very nice ... you may be interested in the web payments community group

http://www.w3.org/community/webpayments/


>
> If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
> discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.
>
> -Brent
>
>
>
>

Re: A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[☮ elf Pavlik ☮]

Excerpts from Brent Shambaugh's message of 2013-01-01 02:16:28 +:
> Dear all,
> 
> This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
> things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
> work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
> thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
> being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
> community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
> in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.
> 
> It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/
> 
> If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
> discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.
Hi Brent,

What do you try to accomplish in terms of 'Economy'? While ago I started this 
(still not really active) CG:
http://www.w3.org/community/community-io/

Which I would like to soon start working on more systematically and possibly 
rename it to Economic I/O
Another attempt to visualize direction I want to take in my work on economy you 
can find: http://polyeconomy.info/

On Linked Data side I would like us to have sophisticated information 
infrastructure, with knowledge graphs helping in our decision making processes 
related to economic consumptions/contributions. Considering myself current 
finances as very primitive, naive, legacy information system build while not 
having current technical capacities!

Not sure if you follow Web Payments CG where people also use LD heavily:
http://www.w3.org/community/webpayments/

Cheers :)

A Distributed Economy -- A blog involving Linked Data

[Brent Shambaugh]

Dear all,

This spring I started a blog that deals with Linked Data, among other
things. It is called A Distributed Economy. I am not certain that it will
work, or that I even will be able to accomplish it on my own. The exciting
thing however, is that I am discovering that a lot of the parts of it are
being built. I hope that sharing this blog will be of value to the
community. I cannot claim to be an expert. Actually, my formal education is
in Chemical Engineering. But it is exciting.

It may be found at: http://adistributedeconomy.blogspot.com/

If you'd like, please let me know what you think. I'm always trying to
discover new things, and discover things I haven't thought of.

-Brent