Re: Excellent News for LOD: Yahoo Provides Tool for RDFa+GoodRelations for Site Owners
Chipping in a little late - yep, this really is excellent news. E-commerce was a huge driver for the Web (/me sidesteps the bust), there's every reason it could be a shot in the arm for the semweb too. Also the lure of shopkeeper $$$s makes this kind of thing great pedagogical material - note the old MS demo Northwind database (btw RDFized by Kingsley co.) and Java EE Pet Store [1]. Speaking of $$$s, I reckon there's a significant market opening for an out-of-the-box semweb-enabled online store 'solution'. I will publish a more complete example at http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Examples Good-oh. I am currently in contact with Google and trying to communicate the advantages of using standard vocabularies for meta-data, and I think there are strong arguments. Good man. Also note that it is fairly easy to transform any Google-specific mark-up into standardized GoodRelations mark-up, and that several related tools are in the making. Good to hear. Incidentally I've still not got around to figuring out the part-whole product description as mentioned at [2] (s/Tinocaster/Vinocaster - there was a preexisting Tinocaster :) so any suggestions there would still be appreciated. Cheers, Danny. [1] http://java.sun.com/developer/releases/petstore/ [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2007Apr/0024.html -- http://danny.ayers.name
Re: Excellent News for LOD: Yahoo Provides Tool for RDFa+GoodRelations for Site Owners
Hi Danny, thanks. Note that the value proposition of more structure and a higher link density in commerce data is not even tougher price comparison shopping, but deep comparison shopping - a better match between the diversity of offers and their individual value proposion on one hand and the diversity of consumer preferences on the other hand. The current web forces us to reduce the search space prematurely to very few makes and models and then watch for the price only, because we cannot search and compare across sites. See the my sketchy Deep Comparison Shopping presentation at http://www.slideshare.net/mhepp/deep-comparison-shopping-1591651 Danny Ayers wrote: Chipping in a little late - yep, this really is excellent news. E-commerce was a huge driver for the Web (/me sidesteps the bust), there's every reason it could be a shot in the arm for the semweb too. Also the lure of shopkeeper $$$s makes this kind of thing great pedagogical material - note the old MS demo Northwind database (btw RDFized by Kingsley co.) and Java EE Pet Store [1]. Speaking of $$$s, I reckon there's a significant market opening for an out-of-the-box semweb-enabled online store 'solution'. Incidentally I've still not got around to figuring out the part-whole product description as mentioned at [2] (s/Tinocaster/Vinocaster - there was a preexisting Tinocaster :) so any suggestions there would still be appreciated. Yep, the fully composition substitution ontology is still on my agenda, but not top priority. Note that GoodRelations already offers basic patterns for modeling - bundles (one bottle of red wine, a pizza, and an iPhone for $500) via gr:includesObject - spare parts via gr:isAccessoryOrSparePartFor - related products via gr:isSimilarTo - consumables via gr:isConsumableFor Cheers, Martin Cheers, Danny. [1] http://java.sun.com/developer/releases/petstore/ [2] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/semantic-web/2007Apr/0024.html -- -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp twitter: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast: http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp Tool for registering your business: http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Tutorial materials: Tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Tutorial_ESWC2009 begin:vcard fn:Martin Hepp n:Hepp;Martin org:Bundeswehr University Munich;E-Business and Web Science Research Group adr:;;Werner-Heisenberg-Web 39;Neubiberg;;D-85577;Germany email;internet:mh...@computer.org tel;work:+49 89 6004 4217 tel;pager:skype: mfhepp url:http://www.heppnetz.de version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Excellent News for LOD: Yahoo Provides Tool for RDFa+GoodRelations for Site Owners
I will publish a more complete example at http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Examples shortly. Martin Well I hope Google does adopt GoodRelations ! You might want to consider making a simple example of the most frequent kind of online catalog. It just has: product catagory, product title, product description, price, zoom picture, thumb picture, and of course price. For an example see: http://www.speaktomecatalog.com/room.php?tag=electronics Note that you also need to have a pull down for product variations. -- Seth Russell www.speaktomecatalog.com
Re: Excellent News for LOD: Yahoo Provides Tool for RDFa+GoodRelations for Site Owners
Nice! And it seems to work for just the HTML+RDFa snippet generated by ReDeFer RDF2HTML: http://developer.search.yahoo.com/help/objectfinder?url=http%3A%2F%2Frhizomik.net%2Fredefer%2Frdf2html%2FminimalExampleGoodRelations%2Findex.html Best, Roberto García http://rhizomik.net/~roberto On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Martin Hepp (UniBW)martin.h...@ebusiness-unibw.org wrote: Dear all: Great news: ANY site owner in the world has now a clear incentive to add GoodRelations meta-data in RDFa to his/her page: As of now, Yahoo will display price and offering details and other meta-data of any e-commerce Web page if the site owner uses GoodRelations vocabulary elements. Previously, such data was only used within special applications developed in the Yahoo ecosystem. Now, every site owner can add meta-data to enhance the search results of offers in Yahoo. Just go to http://developer.search.yahoo.com/help/objects/product and click on the tab RDFa - GoodRelation. The tool generates mark-up patterns for copy-and paste into xhtml page content. Thanks to Peter Mika and everybody at Yahoo for this initiative! It will for sure help lower the entrance barrier for any business to use Semantic Web technology in general and GoodRelations in particular. Screenshots are at http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_and_Yahoo_SearchMonkey Best wishes Martin -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp twitter: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast: http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp Tool for registering your business: http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Tutorial materials: Tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Tutorial_ESWC2009 -- -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp twitter: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast: http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp Tool for registering your business: http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Tutorial materials: Tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Tutorial_ESWC2009
Re: Excellent News for LOD: Yahoo Provides Tool for RDFa+GoodRelations for Site Owners
Well at first blush this is good news. But then why do we want to use a vocabulary like product:listPrice which is locked to a specific yahoo domain: http://search.yahoo.com/searchmonkey/product/ ? Is Google going to come along with another different word for that? Then which one does a catalog owner choose? Re this example from the referenced page: div typeof=product:Product xmlns:product=http://search.yahoo.com/searchmonkey/product/; xmlns:rdfs=http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#; span property=product:listPrice27.99/span span property=product:currency content=USD / span property=rdfs:labelStartech Serial ATA Cable - 45.72cm - Red/span /div -- Seth Russell www.speaktomecatalog.com On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 8:24 AM, Martin Hepp (UniBW) martin.h...@ebusiness-unibw.org wrote: Dear all: Great news: ANY site owner in the world has now a clear incentive to add GoodRelations meta-data in RDFa to his/her page: As of now, Yahoo will display price and offering details and other meta-data of any e-commerce Web page if the site owner uses GoodRelations vocabulary elements. Previously, such data was only used within special applications developed in the Yahoo ecosystem. Now, every site owner can add meta-data to enhance the search results of offers in Yahoo. Just go to http://developer.search.yahoo.com/help/objects/product and click on the tab RDFa - GoodRelation. The tool generates mark-up patterns for copy-and paste into xhtml page content. Thanks to Peter Mika and everybody at Yahoo for this initiative! It will for sure help lower the entrance barrier for any business to use Semantic Web technology in general and GoodRelations in particular. Screenshots are at http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_and_Yahoo_SearchMonkey Best wishes Martin -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp twitter: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast: http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp Tool for registering your business: http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Tutorial materials: Tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Tutorial_ESWC2009 -- -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp twitter: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast: http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp Tool for registering your business: http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Tutorial materials: Tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Tutorial_ESWC2009
Excellent News for LOD: Yahoo Provides Tool for RDFa+GoodRelations for Site Owners
Dear all: Great news: ANY site owner in the world has now a clear incentive to add GoodRelations meta-data in RDFa to his/her page: As of now, Yahoo will display price and offering details and other meta-data of any e-commerce Web page if the site owner uses GoodRelations vocabulary elements. Previously, such data was only used within special applications developed in the Yahoo ecosystem. Now, every site owner can add meta-data to enhance the search results of offers in Yahoo. Just go to http://developer.search.yahoo.com/help/objects/product and click on the tab RDFa - GoodRelation. The tool generates mark-up patterns for copy-and paste into xhtml page content. Thanks to Peter Mika and everybody at Yahoo for this initiative! It will for sure help lower the entrance barrier for any business to use Semantic Web technology in general and GoodRelations in particular. Screenshots are at http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_and_Yahoo_SearchMonkey Best wishes Martin -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp twitter: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast: http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp Tool for registering your business: http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Tutorial materials: Tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Tutorial_ESWC2009 -- -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp twitter: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast: http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp Tool for registering your business: http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Tutorial materials: Tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/wiki/GoodRelations_Tutorial_ESWC2009 begin:vcard fn:Martin Hepp n:Hepp;Martin org:Bundeswehr University Munich;E-Business and Web Science Research Group adr:;;Werner-Heisenberg-Web 39;Neubiberg;;D-85577;Germany email;internet:mh...@computer.org tel;work:+49 89 6004 4217 tel;pager:skype: mfhepp url:http://www.heppnetz.de version:2.1 end:vcard
