Re: ANN: The GoodRelations Annotator: How any business can get onto the Web of Data - today!

2009-05-04 Thread Martin Hepp (UniBW)

Hi all:

>By the way, any chance of asserting that a gr:BusinessEntity is 
equivalent to a foaf:Organisation or foaf:Agent?
As a statement in a particular data space, I think such a link is pretty 
accurate and useful. However, we currently prefer to collate such 
"heuristics"-based mapping axioms in separate files instead of including 
them in the vocabulary specification. The reason is that some users of 
GoodRelations manage clean OWL DL models inside corporate applications; 
there, importing, or linking to, RDF schema elements has unwanted 
side-effects.


Don't get me wrong: We are very interested and collecting practically 
useful link statements. But I think they should be managed in a modular 
fashion.


Best
Martin

Daniel O'Connor wrote:




 ...
 http://www.3kbo.com/people/richard.hancock/foaf.rdf#i"/>
 ...


 
By the way, any chance of asserting that a gr:BusinessEntity is 
equivalent to a foaf:Organisation or foaf:Agent?
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Re: ANN: The GoodRelations Annotator: How any business can get onto the Web of Data - today!

2009-05-04 Thread Martin Hepp (UniBW)

Dear all:
Apologies for the late reply..

To my knowledge, there is a pretty mature osCommerce output available at

http://code.google.com/p/goodrelations-for-oscommerce/

It was developed by a student of mine.

A similar approach for the Joomla/Virtuemart combo by the same student 
is available at


http://code.google.com/p/goodrelations-for-joomla/

Best
Martin


Daniel O'Connor wrote:



On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Daniel O'Connor 
mailto:daniel.ocon...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Got any plans around baking this into e-commerce software?
 
I'm about 3 hours away from adding rdf/xml output into oscommerce;

and i'm sure there are lots of other platforms out there.


Oh neat, already done with triplify! 
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Re: ANN: The GoodRelations Annotator: How any business can get onto the Web of Data - today!

2009-04-09 Thread richard . hancock
Thanks Daniel,

I'll check out foaf:Organization

Cheers,

Richard


>>
>> Initially I added the URI of my foaf file to the BusinessEntity instance
>> using rdfs:seeAlso, but after reading the definition of BusinessEntity
>> i.e. that it "represents the legal agent making a particular offering
>> and
>> can be a legal body or a person" I changed it to owl:sameAs.
>>
>> E.g.
>>
>> 
>>  ...
>>  > rdf:resource="http://www.3kbo.com/people/richard.hancock/foaf.rdf#i"/>
>>  ...
>> 
>>
>> This makes sense for my simple case, since as a sole trader I am the
>> BusinessEntity and owl:sameAs also provides an inferred link from my
>> foaf
>> file to the semanticweb.rdf.
>>
>> But I am also interested in describing other more complex relationships
>> between a BusinessEntity (when not a person) and the people involved
>> with
>> the business (e.g. directors, CEO etc ...) and between other
>> BusinessEntitys.
>
>
>
> I did fairly well with foaf:Organisation, which is a foaf:Agent (so can do
> most of the things a foaf:Person can) in terms of modelling who works with
> who.
>
> IE; it gets a foaf profile and there are foaf:members of it, and in my
> case
> (this guy is a contractor who works for a bigger company); one company can
> be a foaf:member of another.
>
>
> 
>   
> 
>
>
> 
>   Tom
>   Example
>   
> d02b26e1f89b4c37e8cafdb10b13df193938e984
>
>  rdf:resource="https://vx.valex.com.au/rest/rdf/user/foaf.php?us_id=10824";
> />
>  rdf:resource="https://vx.valex.com.au/rest/rdf/user/foaf.php?us_id=10824";
> />
>   
>
> 
>rdf:about="https://vx.valex.com.au/rest/rdf/valfirm/foaf.php?valfirm_id=2";>
> Megaw & Hogg National Valuers
> (Adelaide)
> 
> 
>
>
>
>
>
>>
>>
>> Do you now of an ontology along the lines of foaf
>> (http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/) and relationship
>> (http://vocab.org/relationship/) that could be used?
>>
>
> FoafCorp is one that comes to mind, but I've never look at it too hard.
>





Re: ANN: The GoodRelations Annotator: How any business can get onto the Web of Data - today!

2009-04-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 1:12 PM, Daniel O'Connor
wrote:

> Got any plans around baking this into e-commerce software?
>
> I'm about 3 hours away from adding rdf/xml output into oscommerce; and i'm
> sure there are lots of other platforms out there.
>

Oh neat, already done with triplify!


Re: ANN: The GoodRelations Annotator: How any business can get onto the Web of Data - today!

2009-04-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
Got any plans around baking this into e-commerce software?

I'm about 3 hours away from adding rdf/xml output into oscommerce; and i'm
sure there are lots of other platforms out there.


Re: ANN: The GoodRelations Annotator: How any business can get onto the Web of Data - today!

2009-04-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
>
>
> 
>  ...
>   rdf:resource="http://www.3kbo.com/people/richard.hancock/foaf.rdf#i"/>
>  ...
> 
>
>
By the way, any chance of asserting that a gr:BusinessEntity is equivalent
to a foaf:Organisation or foaf:Agent?


Re: ANN: The GoodRelations Annotator: How any business can get onto the Web of Data - today!

2009-04-09 Thread Daniel O'Connor
>
>
> Initially I added the URI of my foaf file to the BusinessEntity instance
> using rdfs:seeAlso, but after reading the definition of BusinessEntity
> i.e. that it "represents the legal agent making a particular offering and
> can be a legal body or a person" I changed it to owl:sameAs.
>
> E.g.
>
> 
>  ...
>   rdf:resource="http://www.3kbo.com/people/richard.hancock/foaf.rdf#i"/>
>  ...
> 
>
> This makes sense for my simple case, since as a sole trader I am the
> BusinessEntity and owl:sameAs also provides an inferred link from my foaf
> file to the semanticweb.rdf.
>
> But I am also interested in describing other more complex relationships
> between a BusinessEntity (when not a person) and the people involved with
> the business (e.g. directors, CEO etc ...) and between other
> BusinessEntitys.



I did fairly well with foaf:Organisation, which is a foaf:Agent (so can do
most of the things a foaf:Person can) in terms of modelling who works with
who.

IE; it gets a foaf profile and there are foaf:members of it, and in my case
(this guy is a contractor who works for a bigger company); one company can
be a foaf:member of another.



  




  Tom
  Example
  
d02b26e1f89b4c37e8cafdb10b13df193938e984

https://vx.valex.com.au/rest/rdf/user/foaf.php?us_id=10824";
/>
https://vx.valex.com.au/rest/rdf/user/foaf.php?us_id=10824";
/>
  


  https://vx.valex.com.au/rest/rdf/valfirm/foaf.php?valfirm_id=2";>
Megaw & Hogg National Valuers (Adelaide)







>
>
> Do you now of an ontology along the lines of foaf
> (http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/) and relationship
> (http://vocab.org/relationship/) that could be used?
>

FoafCorp is one that comes to mind, but I've never look at it too hard.


Re: ANN: The GoodRelations Annotator: How any business can get onto the Web of Data - today!

2009-04-09 Thread richard . hancock
Hi Martin,

the GoodRelations Annotator worked well. To try it out I used it to create
and publish a semanticweb.rdf file for my embryonic business at
http://www.3kbo.com/semanticweb.rdf.

I'm interested in extending the links from the semanticweb.rdf to other
things. In particular linking the BusinessEntity with people and with
other BusinessEntitys.

Initially I added the URI of my foaf file to the BusinessEntity instance
using rdfs:seeAlso, but after reading the definition of BusinessEntity
i.e. that it "represents the legal agent making a particular offering and
can be a legal body or a person" I changed it to owl:sameAs.

E.g.


  ...
  http://www.3kbo.com/people/richard.hancock/foaf.rdf#i"/>
  ...


This makes sense for my simple case, since as a sole trader I am the
BusinessEntity and owl:sameAs also provides an inferred link from my foaf
file to the semanticweb.rdf.

But I am also interested in describing other more complex relationships
between a BusinessEntity (when not a person) and the people involved with
the business (e.g. directors, CEO etc ...) and between other
BusinessEntitys.

Do you now of an ontology along the lines of foaf
(http://xmlns.com/foaf/0.1/) and relationship
(http://vocab.org/relationship/) that could be used?

Cheers,

Richard Hancock

> Dear all:
>
> We are proud to announce the release of the GoodRelations Annotator, a
form-based tool that will help any business in the world to create a
description of its offerings suitable for the Web of Data,
> and that in less than 5 minutes.
>
> The tool is available at
>
> http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/
>
> It creates a straightforward yet complete description of the key aspects
of a typical business using the GoodRelations vocabulary and current
Semantic Web standards.
>
> The resulting RDF/XML file can be either directly published on the
company's Web site or used as a skeleton for developing a more
> fine-grained description with price information etc.
>
> The work on the tool has been funded by the Oesterreichische
> Forschungsfoerderungsgesellschaft GmbH (FFG) and the Austrian
> Bundesministerium fuer Verkehr, Innovation und Technologie (BMVIT) under
the myOntology project in the FIT-IT "Semantic Systems" program
> (contract number 812515).
>
> Please help spread the word.
>
> Best wishes
> Martin Hepp
> http://www.heppnetz.de
> http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/
>
> Tool:
> http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/
>
> GoodRelations Project:
> http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/
>
> Webcast (15 Minutes)
> http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/
>
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