Re: Bestbuy.com goes Semantic Web the GoodRelations Way
Yeah, I too think this is a big deal. Semantic web in the commercial world obviously suffers the same chicken and egg problem as elsewhere, but if a big company like BestBuy just does it anyway, then services that consume and aggregate this kind of data are likely to spring up. Semantic SEO industry starts here?
Re: Bestbuy.com goes Semantic Web the GoodRelations Way
Bill Roberts wrote: Yeah, I too think this is a big deal. Semantic web in the commercial world obviously suffers the same chicken and egg problem as elsewhere, but if a big company like BestBuy just does it anyway, then services that consume and aggregate this kind of data are likely to spring up. Semantic SEO industry starts here? Yes, but I would say SDQ in addition to SEO :-) Links: 1. http://tr.im/iv9e -- post about Serendipitous Discovery Quotient (SDQ) -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Re: Bestbuy.com goes Semantic Web the GoodRelations Way
Guys, Let me add: Having real world use cases validate the cause in many levels. In practice, this will generate a second sell, and a third, etc. Domino effect. Or rather, the CYA effect: Until someone else has taken the risk, why put your A on the line? So, I would call this a nice escape goat as well. And that's a LOT. First kiss is most elusive. From then on it's downhill ;) Congratulations to whoever made it happen! Regards A PS. In some cases, its a good idea to stop at the first kiss... but I think that the prospect of permeating the e-commerce dinosaur is sexy as hell ;) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Bill Roberts wrote: Yeah, I too think this is a big deal. Semantic web in the commercial world obviously suffers the same chicken and egg problem as elsewhere, but if a big company like BestBuy just does it anyway, then services that consume and aggregate this kind of data are likely to spring up. Semantic SEO industry starts here? Yes, but I would say SDQ in addition to SEO :-) Links: 1. http://tr.im/iv9e -- post about Serendipitous Discovery Quotient (SDQ) -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com -- Aldo Bucchi U N I V R Z Office: +56 2 795 4532 Mobile:+56 9 7623 8653 skype:aldo.bucchi http://www.univrz.com/ http://aldobucchi.com/ PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION This message is only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not distribute or copy this communication, by e-mail or otherwise. Instead, please notify us immediately by return e-mail. INFORMACIÓN PRIVILEGIADA Y CONFIDENCIAL Este mensaje está destinado sólo a la persona u organización al cual está dirigido y podría contener información privilegiada y confidencial. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor no distribuya ni copie esta comunicación, por email o por otra vía. Por el contrario, por favor notifíquenos inmediatamente vía e-mail.
Re: Bestbuy.com goes Semantic Web the GoodRelations Way
PS. In some cases, its a good idea to stop at the first kiss... but I think that the prospect of permeating the e-commerce dinosaur is sexy as hell ;) Yes, that is what drives me ;-) Martin PS: Think of the many novel e-business scenarios in affiliate marketing etc. when you can have web-wide search on the product data space. More here: http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp Aldo Bucchi wrote: Guys, Let me add: Having real world use cases validate the cause in many levels. In practice, this will generate a second sell, and a third, etc. Domino effect. Or rather, the CYA effect: Until someone else has taken the risk, why put your A on the line? So, I would call this a nice escape goat as well. And that's a LOT. First kiss is most elusive. From then on it's downhill ;) Congratulations to whoever made it happen! Regards A PS. In some cases, its a good idea to stop at the first kiss... but I think that the prospect of permeating the e-commerce dinosaur is sexy as hell ;) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Bill Roberts wrote: Yeah, I too think this is a big deal. Semantic web in the commercial world obviously suffers the same chicken and egg problem as elsewhere, but if a big company like BestBuy just does it anyway, then services that consume and aggregate this kind of data are likely to spring up. Semantic SEO industry starts here? Yes, but I would say SDQ in addition to SEO :-) Links: 1. http://tr.im/iv9e -- post about Serendipitous Discovery Quotient (SDQ) -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com -- -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax:+49-(0)89-6004-4620 www:http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast explaining the Web of Data for E-Commerce: - http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Tool for registering your business: -- http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: - http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: - http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Upcoming events: --- Full-day tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.eswc2009.org/program-menu/tutorials/70 Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology More information: http://www.semantic-conference.com/session/1881/ Slides: http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp begin:vcard fn:Martin Hepp n:Hepp;Martin org:Bundeswehr University Munich;E-Business and Web Science Research Group adr:;;Werner-Heisenberg-Web 39;Neubiberg;;D-85577;Germany email;internet:mh...@computer.org tel;work:+49 89 6004 4217 tel;pager:skype: mfhepp url:http://www.heppnetz.de version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Bestbuy.com goes Semantic Web the GoodRelations Way
Martin Thanks for that very interesting presentation. Sorry I can't come along next week to hear it live. Bill On 9 Jun 2009, at 13:32, Martin Hepp (UniBW) wrote: PS. In some cases, its a good idea to stop at the first kiss... but I think that the prospect of permeating the e-commerce dinosaur is sexy as hell ;) Yes, that is what drives me ;-) Martin PS: Think of the many novel e-business scenarios in affiliate marketing etc. when you can have web-wide search on the product data space. More here: http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp Aldo Bucchi wrote: Guys, Let me add: Having real world use cases validate the cause in many levels. In practice, this will generate a second sell, and a third, etc. Domino effect. Or rather, the CYA effect: Until someone else has taken the risk, why put your A on the line? So, I would call this a nice escape goat as well. And that's a LOT. First kiss is most elusive. From then on it's downhill ;) Congratulations to whoever made it happen! Regards A PS. In some cases, its a good idea to stop at the first kiss... but I think that the prospect of permeating the e-commerce dinosaur is sexy as hell ;) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Bill Roberts wrote: Yeah, I too think this is a big deal. Semantic web in the commercial world obviously suffers the same chicken and egg problem as elsewhere, but if a big company like BestBuy just does it anyway, then services that consume and aggregate this kind of data are likely to spring up. Semantic SEO industry starts here? Yes, but I would say SDQ in addition to SEO :-) Links: 1. http://tr.im/iv9e -- post about Serendipitous Discovery Quotient (SDQ) -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/ ~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com -- -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax:+49-(0)89-6004-4620 www:http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! = = == Webcast explaining the Web of Data for E-Commerce: - http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Tool for registering your business: -- http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: - http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: - http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Upcoming events: --- Full-day tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.eswc2009.org/program-menu/tutorials/70 Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology More information: http://www.semantic-conference.com/session/1881/ Slides: http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp martin_hepp.vcf
Re: Bestbuy.com goes Semantic Web the GoodRelations Way
Aldo Bucchi wrote: Clarification, On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:57 AM, Aldo Bucchialdo.buc...@gmail.com wrote: Guys, Let me add: Having real world use cases validate the cause in many levels. In practice, this will generate a second sell, and a third, etc. Domino effect. Or rather, the CYA effect: Until someone else has taken the risk, why put your A on the line? So, I would call this a nice escape goat as well. And that's a LOT. First kiss is most elusive. From then on it's downhill ;) Please not that this is in addition to this being a good thing in nature ( my point sounded a bit narrow ). The point is: this event is even more significant than the content itself ;) Perhaps someone from the community could split markets vertically and monitor events relevant to each. This information is really valuable because it helps others trying to do the same. Kingsley: Does any of the upper level ontologies or LOD datasets provide industry sectors with a useful level of granularity? For example ( copy paste from Yahoo ) (GENERIC) BANKING FINANCE CONSTRUCTION PROPERTY CONSUMER GOODS ENGINEERING HEALTH INDUSTRIALS LEISURE MEDIA NATURAL RESOURCES PUBLIC SECTOR RETAILING SUPPORT SERVICES TECHNOLOGY TELECOMS TRANSPORT UTILITIES And then serve this up via: LinkedData.org / showcase / ( FCT browser ) Same thing would apply to the teams behind each project ( via DOAP + FOAF ). This is to do quick lookups if in need for specific expertise. Yes, it's pretty much there, just need to get the new LOD instance online etc.. Also look at the GoodRelations annotator re. sector categorization (which uses the e...@ss data): http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ (note: Product Category Section) :-) Linked Open eCommerce (LOC) is the moniker that Martin and I are using for the eCommerce oriented application of Linked Data. Much more to come very soon :-) Kingsley Congratulations to whoever made it happen! Regards A PS. In some cases, its a good idea to stop at the first kiss... but I think that the prospect of permeating the e-commerce dinosaur is sexy as hell ;) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Bill Roberts wrote: Yeah, I too think this is a big deal. Semantic web in the commercial world obviously suffers the same chicken and egg problem as elsewhere, but if a big company like BestBuy just does it anyway, then services that consume and aggregate this kind of data are likely to spring up. Semantic SEO industry starts here? Yes, but I would say SDQ in addition to SEO :-) Links: 1. http://tr.im/iv9e -- post about Serendipitous Discovery Quotient (SDQ) -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com -- Aldo Bucchi U N I V R Z Office: +56 2 795 4532 Mobile:+56 9 7623 8653 skype:aldo.bucchi http://www.univrz.com/ http://aldobucchi.com/ PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION This message is only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not distribute or copy this communication, by e-mail or otherwise. Instead, please notify us immediately by return e-mail. INFORMACIÓN PRIVILEGIADA Y CONFIDENCIAL Este mensaje está destinado sólo a la persona u organización al cual está dirigido y podría contener información privilegiada y confidencial. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor no distribuya ni copie esta comunicación, por email o por otra vía. Por el contrario, por favor notifíquenos inmediatamente vía e-mail. -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com
Re: Bestbuy.com goes Semantic Web the GoodRelations Way
Hi Aldo: Kingsley: Does any of the upper level ontologies or LOD datasets provide industry sectors with a useful level of granularity? Note that GoodRelations provides the gr:hasISICv4 and the gr:hasNAICS properties for linking a gr:BusinessEntity to the proper ISIC/NAICS category code for that company. For a more precise description of the range of skills or products offered, one should use the regular gr:Offering pattern, though, because a one-dimensional industry classification is pretty much limited. http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1#hasISICv4 Definition: The International Standard of Industrial Classification of All Economic Activities (ISIC), Revision 4 code for a particular Business Entity. See http://unstats.un.org/unsd/cr/registry/isic-4.asp for more information. Note: While ISIC codes are sometimes misused for classifying products or services, they are designed and suited only for classifying business establishments. http://purl.org/goodrelations/v1#hasNAICS Definition: The North American Industry Classification System (NAICS) code for a particular Business Entity. See http://www.census.gov/eos/www/naics/ for more details. Note: While NAICS codes are sometimes misused for classifying products or services, they are designed and suited only for classifying business establishments. Best Martin Congratulations to whoever made it happen! Regards A PS. In some cases, its a good idea to stop at the first kiss... but I think that the prospect of permeating the e-commerce dinosaur is sexy as hell ;) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 7:41 AM, Kingsley Idehenkide...@openlinksw.com wrote: Bill Roberts wrote: Yeah, I too think this is a big deal. Semantic web in the commercial world obviously suffers the same chicken and egg problem as elsewhere, but if a big company like BestBuy just does it anyway, then services that consume and aggregate this kind of data are likely to spring up. Semantic SEO industry starts here? Yes, but I would say SDQ in addition to SEO :-) Links: 1. http://tr.im/iv9e -- post about Serendipitous Discovery Quotient (SDQ) -- Regards, Kingsley Idehen Weblog: http://www.openlinksw.com/blog/~kidehen President CEO OpenLink Software Web: http://www.openlinksw.com -- Aldo Bucchi U N I V R Z Office: +56 2 795 4532 Mobile:+56 9 7623 8653 skype:aldo.bucchi http://www.univrz.com/ http://aldobucchi.com/ PRIVILEGED AND CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION This message is only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged and confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not distribute or copy this communication, by e-mail or otherwise. Instead, please notify us immediately by return e-mail. INFORMACIÓN PRIVILEGIADA Y CONFIDENCIAL Este mensaje está destinado sólo a la persona u organización al cual está dirigido y podría contener información privilegiada y confidencial. Si usted no es el destinatario, por favor no distribuya ni copie esta comunicación, por email o por otra vía. Por el contrario, por favor notifíquenos inmediatamente vía e-mail. -- -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax:+49-(0)89-6004-4620 www:http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast explaining the Web of Data for E-Commerce: - http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Tool for registering your business: -- http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: - http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: - http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Upcoming events: --- Full-day tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.eswc2009.org/program-menu/tutorials/70 Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology More information: http://www.semantic-conference.com/session/1881/ Slides: http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp begin:vcard fn:Martin Hepp n:Hepp;Martin org:Bundeswehr University Munich;E-Business and Web Science Research Group adr:;;Werner-Heisenberg-Web 39;Neubiberg;;D-85577;Germany email;internet:mh...@computer.org tel;work:+49 89 6004 4217 tel;pager:skype: mfhepp url:http://www.heppnetz.de version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: Bestbuy.com goes Semantic Web the GoodRelations Way
I heard about this elsewhere (?) - I personally think it's hugely significant. Commerce means a lot to a lot of people, this is mainstreaming. Bravo! 2009/6/8 Martin Hepp (UniBW) h...@ebusiness-unibw.org: Hi all: Good news: Bestbuy.com goes Semantic Web the GoodRelations Way http://tinyurl.com/bestbuy-goodrelations Best Martin -- -- martin hepp e-business web science research group universitaet der bundeswehr muenchen e-mail: mh...@computer.org phone: +49-(0)89-6004-4217 fax: +49-(0)89-6004-4620 www: http://www.unibw.de/ebusiness/ (group) http://www.heppnetz.de/ (personal) skype: mfhepp Check out the GoodRelations vocabulary for E-Commerce on the Web of Data! Webcast explaining the Web of Data for E-Commerce: - http://www.heppnetz.de/projects/goodrelations/webcast/ Tool for registering your business: -- http://www.ebusiness-unibw.org/tools/goodrelations-annotator/ Overview article on Semantic Universe: - http://tinyurl.com/goodrelations-universe Project page and resources for developers: - http://purl.org/goodrelations/ Upcoming events: --- Full-day tutorial at ESWC 2009: The Web of Data for E-Commerce in One Day: A Hands-on Introduction to the GoodRelations Ontology, RDFa, and Yahoo! SearchMonkey http://www.eswc2009.org/program-menu/tutorials/70 Talk at the Semantic Technology Conference 2009: Semantic Web-based E-Commerce: The GoodRelations Ontology More information: http://www.semantic-conference.com/session/1881/ Slides: http://tinyurl.com/semtech-hepp -- http://danny.ayers.name
