CfC: FPWD of Web Messaging; deadline November 13

2010-11-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
Ian, All - during WebApps' November 1 gathering, participants expressed 
in an interest in publishing a First Public Working Draft of Web 
Messaging [1] and this is a CfC to do so:


  http://dev.w3.org/html5/postmsg/

This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the group's  
decision to request advancement.


By publishing this FPWD, the group sends a signal to the community to  
begin reviewing the document. The FPWD reflects where the group is on 
this spec at the time of publication; it does not necessarily mean there 
is consensus on the spec's contents.


As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged 
and silence will be assumed to be assent.


The deadline for comments is November 13.

-Art Barstow

[1] http://www.w3.org/2010/11/01-webapps-minutes.html#item04

 Original Message 
Subject: 	ACTION-598: Start a CfC to publish a FPWD of Web Messaging 
(Web Applications Working Group)

Date:   Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:35:29 +0100
From: 	ext Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker 
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To: Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) art.bars...@nokia.com


ACTION-598: Start a CfC to publish a FPWD of Web Messaging  (Web Applications 
Working Group)

http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/598

On: Arthur Barstow
Due: 2010-11-08




CfC: to publish Web SQL Database as a Working Group Note; deadline November 13

2010-11-06 Thread Arthur Barstow
During WebApps's November 1 gathering, participants discussed the Web 
SQL Database spec:


  http://www.w3.org/2010/11/01-webapps-minutes.html#item09

As we know, this spec is at an impasse as noted in the Status section:

[[
http://dev.w3.org/html5/webdatabase/#status-of-this-document

This specification has reached an impasse: all interested implementors 
have used the same SQL backend (Sqlite), but we need multiple 
independent implementations to proceed along a standardisation path. 
Until another implementor is interested in implementing this spec, the 
description of the SQL dialect has been left as simply a reference to 
Sqlite, which isn't acceptable for a standard. Should you be an 
implementor interested in implementing an independent SQL backend, 
please contact the editor so that he can write a specification for the 
dialect, thus allowing this specification to move forward.

]]

As such, participants in the discussions suggested the spec be published 
as a Working Group Note and this is Call for Consensus to do.


*Note Well: by publishing a Working Group Note, the group sends a signal 
to the community that work on this spec has ended* as described in the 
Process Document:


  http://www.w3.org/2005/10/Process-20051014/tr.html#q75

As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged 
and silence will be assumed to be assent.


The deadline for comments is November 13.

-Art Barstow

 Original Message 
Subject: 	ACTION-606: Start a CfC to publish Web SQL Database as a 
Working Group Note (and hence signal the spec is no longer on the REC 
track) (Web Applications Working Group)

Date:   Mon, 1 Nov 2010 14:26:07 +0100
From: 	ext Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker 
sysbot+trac...@w3.org

Reply-To:   Web Applications Working Group WG public-webapps@w3.org
To: Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) art.bars...@nokia.com


ACTION-606: Start a CfC to publish Web SQL Database as a Working Group Note 
(and hence signal the spec is no longer on the REC track) (Web Applications 
Working Group)

http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/606

On: Arthur Barstow
Due: 2010-11-08




Re: CfC: FPWD of Web Messaging; deadline November 13

2010-11-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Arthur Barstow wrote:

 Ian, All - during WebApps' November 1 gathering, participants expressed 
 in an interest in publishing a First Public Working Draft of Web 
 Messaging [1] and this is a CfC to do so:
 
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/postmsg/
 
 This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the group's 
 decision to request advancement.

I'd rather not add another document to the list of documents for which I 
have to maintain separate W3C headers and footers at this time (especially 
given that I'm behind on taking the other drafts I'm editing to LC). The 
text in the spec really belongs in the HTML spec anyway and is already 
published by the WHATWG in the HTML spec there, and is already getting 
ample review and maintenance there, so I don't think it's especially 
pressing to publish it as a separate doc on the TR/ page. (The contents of 
the doc have already gone through FPWD at the W3C, so there's not even a 
patent policy reason to do it.)

I'm also a bit concerned that every time we publish anything on the TR/ 
page, we end up littering the Web with obsolete drafts (since the specs 
are maintained much faster than we publish them). I'd really rather just 
move away from publishing drafts on the TR/ page at all, if we could 
update the patent policy accordingly. I frequently get questions in 
private e-mails from implementors who are looking at obsolete drafts on 
the TR/ page about issues that have long been solved in the up to date 
drafts on dev.w3.org or at the WHATWG.

If there wasn't such high overhead to publishing on the TR/ page, an 
alternative would be to publish a new draft there frequently. In fact, the 
best thing on the short term might be to publish a new REC-level draft 
there every week or every month or some such (probably the best interval 
would be whatever the patent policy's exclusion window is), since that 
would actually make the patent policy work again. (Currently the patent 
policy at the W3C is almost as useless as at the IETF since when we follow 
the process properly, we almost never get to REC.)

-- 
Ian Hickson   U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL
http://ln.hixie.ch/   U+263A/,   _.. \   _\  ;`._ ,.
Things that are impossible just take longer.   `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'



Re: CfC: to publish Web SQL Database as a Working Group Note; deadline November 13

2010-11-06 Thread Ian Hickson
On Sat, 6 Nov 2010, Arthur Barstow wrote:

 [...] suggested the spec be published as a Working Group Note and this 
 is Call for Consensus to do.

I support this in principle. I can't commit to providing the draft, 
though. A few months ago I turned off this particular spigot in my 
publishing pipeline (back when I removed the section from the WHATWG 
complete.html spec) and I don't have the bandwidth to bring it back up to 
speed at this time.

-- 
Ian Hickson   U+1047E)\._.,--,'``.fL
http://ln.hixie.ch/   U+263A/,   _.. \   _\  ;`._ ,.
Things that are impossible just take longer.   `._.-(,_..'--(,_..'`-.;.'



Re: CfC: FPWD of Web Messaging; deadline November 13

2010-11-06 Thread Maciej Stachowiak

I favor publication of Web Messaging.

Regards,
Maciej

On Nov 6, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Arthur Barstow wrote:

 Ian, All - during WebApps' November 1 gathering, participants expressed in an 
 interest in publishing a First Public Working Draft of Web Messaging [1] and 
 this is a CfC to do so:
 
   http://dev.w3.org/html5/postmsg/
 
 This CfC satisfies the group's requirement to record the group's  decision 
 to request advancement.
 
 By publishing this FPWD, the group sends a signal to the community to  begin 
 reviewing the document. The FPWD reflects where the group is on this spec at 
 the time of publication; it does not necessarily mean there is consensus on 
 the spec's contents.
 
 As with all of our CfCs, positive response is preferred and encouraged and 
 silence will be assumed to be assent.
 
 The deadline for comments is November 13.
 
 -Art Barstow
 
 [1] http://www.w3.org/2010/11/01-webapps-minutes.html#item04
 
  Original Message 
 Subject:  ACTION-598: Start a CfC to publish a FPWD of Web Messaging (Web 
 Applications Working Group)
 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 11:35:29 +0100
 From: ext Web Applications Working Group Issue Tracker sysbot+trac...@w3.org
 Reply-To: Web Applications Working Group WG public-webapps@w3.org
 To:   Barstow Art (Nokia-CIC/Boston) art.bars...@nokia.com
 ACTION-598: Start a CfC to publish a FPWD of Web Messaging  (Web Applications 
 Working Group)
 
 http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/actions/598
 
 On: Arthur Barstow
 Due: 2010-11-08