RE: CfC: Move URL spec to 2014 Process (and publish)

2014-12-04 Thread David Walp
Microsoft supports the proposal.

cheers
-Original Message-
From: cha...@yandex-team.ru [mailto:cha...@yandex-team.ru] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 2, 2014 4:45 PM
To: Webapps WG
Subject: Re: CfC: Move URL spec to 2014 Process (and publish)

03.12.2014, 02:41, cha...@yandex-team.ru cha...@yandex-team.ru:
 Hello all,

 this is a call for consensus on the proposal

 Webapps will publish future drafts of the URL specification under the 
 2014 Process Document http://www.w3.org/2014/Process-20140801/

 Silence will be taken as assent but positive response to this email is 
 preferred, and will be accepted before midnight Hawaii time on Wednesday 
 December 10.

Yandex supports the proposal.

cheers

--
Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex 
cha...@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com





RE: [url] Feedback from TPAC

2014-11-25 Thread David Walp
Apologies for being a late comer to the discussion, but here is some feedback 
in our implementation.  We're looking forward to engaging on these interactions 
more proactively in the future.

On Wednesday, October 29, 2014 6:55 PM, Sam Ruby ru...@intertwingly.net wrote:

 Now to get to what I personally am most interested in: identifying 
 changes to the expected test results, and therefore to the URL 
 specification -- independent of the approach that specification takes 
 to describing parsing. To kick off the discussion, here are three examples:

 1) http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/urltest-results/7357a04b5b
 
 A number of browsers, namely Internet Explorer, Opera(Presto), and 
 Safari seem to be of the opinion that exposing passwords is a bad 
 idea. I suggest that this is a defensible position, and that the 
 specification should either standardize on this approach or at a minimum 
 permit this.

Yes, we, Microsoft, are of the opinion that exposing passwords is a bad idea.  
Based on received feedback, customers agree and I suspect our customers are not 
unique on this opinion.

 2) http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/urltest-results/4b60e32190

 This is not a valid URL syntax, nor does any browser vendor implement 
 it.  I think it is fairly safe to say that given this state that there 
 isn't a wide corpus of existing web content that depends on it.  I'd 
 suggest that the specification be modified to adopt the behavior that 
 Chrome, Internet Explorer, and
 Opera(Presto) implement.

Agreed.  Standardizing something not used that is not in anyone's interest.  
What you have posted on Github:  
https://github.com/rubys/url/tree/peg.js/reference-implementation#readme .. I 
found I had a hard time determining what should be the parsing output for a 
number of cases. rings true here. There is no advantage to adding complexity 
when it is not required.  

 3) http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/urltest-results/61a4a14209
 
 This is an example of a problem that Anne is currently wrestling with. 
 Note in particular the result produced by Chrome, which identifies the 
 host as a IPV4 address and canonicalizes it.

This is the type of interop issue we think should be a focus of the URL 
specification and the W3C efforts.  

Finally we are focused at identifying and fixing real-world interop bugs that 
we see in live sites in support our goal of The web should just work 
(http://blogs.msdn.com/b/ie/archive/2014/05/27/launching-status-modern-ie-amp-internet-explorer-platform-priorities.aspx).
 For example, I think you had at one time listed an IE issue in the discussion 
section of the URL spec - 
http://intertwingly.net/projects/pegurl/url.html#discuss.  This bug was related 
to a missing / at the front of URLs under certain conditions.  Since this 
issue has been removed from the discussion section, I am hoping you have seen 
that we have fixed the issue.  We are actively pursuing and fixing similar 
interop bugs.  We want the URL spec to be source of interop behavior and 
believe that our goal is in line with your direction.

Cheers,
_dave_