Re: CFC on referencing the Image Description (longdesc) extension

2016-08-08 Thread John Foliot
Despite lingering concerns about removing a valid attribute from the table
of attributes in the document, in the interest of cooperation and
collaborative consensus building I will agree with this CfC.

JF

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Léonie Watson <t...@tink.uk> wrote:

> Hello WP,
>
> This is a Call For Consensus (CFC) on the following proposal for
> referencing the Image Description (longdesc) extension specification [1].
> The CFC is posted to public-webapps@w3.org because this is the official
> WP email list, and copied to public-h...@w3.org.
>
> The proposal:
>
> 1. Remove the longdesc attribute from the table of attributes in HTML core.
> 2. Remove the IDL information for the longdesc attribute from HTML core.
> 3. Keep the longdesc examples in HTML core **.
> 4. Create a WG Note listing known extension specifications ***.
> 5. Include a link to the HTML Extension Specifications Note from HTML core
> (probably in the index).
>
> ** Examples throughout the HTML specification are informative, and we
> include informative examples and information for other specifications and
> extensions
> elsewhere in HTML core.
>
> *** We anticipate that the Note will be updated as we identify new/other
> extension specifications.
>
> We are still exploring different ways of responding to a CFC. Please
> choose one of the following methods:
>
> 1. Reply by email to this thread.
> 2. Reply or +1 to the original proposal comment on Github [2].
>
> There is no need to use more than one method. The WP chairs will collate
> the results across all channels.
>
> Please respond by end of day on Friday 12th August. Positive responses are
> encouraged, but silence will be taken as consent with the proposal.
>
> Thanks
> Léonie on behalf of the WP chairs and team
> [1]  https://www.w3.org/TR/html-longdesc/
> [2] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/507#issuecomment-237068400
> --
> @LeonieWatson tink.uk Carpe diem
>
>


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John Foliot
Principal Accessibility Strategist
Deque Systems Inc.
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Re: Request to move HTML5.1 to Candidate Recommendation (CR)

2016-06-02 Thread John Foliot
Hi Marcos,

While it may feel spammy to you, this is a long-standing part of the W3C
Consensus process, and generally speaking all CfCs include the following:

"Positive responses are preferred and encouraged, silence will be
considered as assent."



On the surface, and in principle, I disagree that the "only thing that
matters is objections", as visible signs of strong support matter too.
Receiving a handful of +1 emails is to me an acceptable process (unless
this group chooses to use another means of confirming consensus: perhaps
WBS surveys or similar?)

JF






On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 11:14 AM, <mar...@marcosc.com> wrote:

> Can we please kindly stop the +1s spam? It greatly diminishes the value of
> this mailing list.
>
> For the purpose of progressing a spec, the only thing that matters is
> objections.
>
> > On 3 Jun 2016, at 12:36 AM, Mona Rekhi <mona.re...@ssbbartgroup.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Mona Rekhi
> > SSB BART Group
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Léonie Watson [mailto:t...@tink.uk]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2016 8:48 AM
> > To: 'public-webapps WG' <public-webapps@w3.org>
> > Subject: CFC: Request to move HTML5.1 to Candidate Recommendation (CR)
> >
> > Hello WP,
> >
> > This is a call for consensus to request that W3C publish the current
> HTML Working Draft (WD) as a Candidate Recommendation (CR). It has been
> posted to public-webapps@w3.org as the official email for this WG.
> >
> > Please reply to this thread on public-webapps@w3.org  no later than end
> of day on 10 June. Positive responses are preferred and encouraged, silence
> will be considered as assent.
> >
> > The current HTML5.1 WD [1] improves upon HTML5. It includes updates that
> make it more reliable, more readable and understandable, and a better match
> for reality. Substantial changes between HTML5 and HTML5.1 can be found in
> the spec [2].
> >
> > When a specification moves to CR it triggers a Call For Exclusions, per
> section 4 of the W3C Patent Policy [3]. No substantive additions can be
> made to a specification in CR without starting a new Call for Exclusions,
> so we will put HTML5.1 into "feature freeze". It is possible to make
> editorial updates as necessary, and features marked "At Risk" may be
> removed if found not to be interoperable.
> >
> > The following features are considered "at risk". If we cannot identify
> at least two shipping implementations, they will be marked "at risk" in the
> CR and may be removed from the Proposed Recommendation.
> >
> > keygen element. [issue 43]
> > label as a reassociatable element [issue 109] Fixing
> requestAnimationFrame to 60Hz, not implementation-defined [issues
> 159/375/422] registerContentHandler [Issue 233] inputmode attribute of the
> input element [issue 269] autofill of form elements [issue 372] menu,
> menuitem and context menus. [issue 373] dialog element [issue 427] Text
> tracks exposing in-band metadata best practices [Issue 461] datetime and
> datatime-local states of the input element [Issue 462]
> >
> > Please share implementation details for any of these features on Github.
> To mark other features "at risk", please identify them by 10th June
> (ideally by filing an issue and providing a test case).
> >
> > At the same time we move HTML5.1 into CR, we plan to continue updating
> the Editor's Draft, and in the next few weeks we expect to post a Call for
> Consensus to publish it as the First Public Working Draft of HTML5.2, so
> improving HTML will continue without a pause. It also means that changes
> that didn't make it into
> > HTML5.1 will not have long to wait before being incorporated into the
> specification.
> >
> > Léonie on behalf of the WP chairs and team, and HTML editors.
> > [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/
> > [2] https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/changes.html#changes
> > [3] https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#sec-Exclusion
> >
> > [issue 43] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/43
> > [issue 109] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/109
> > [issues 159/375/422] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/159 and links
> [issue 233] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/233
> > [issue 269] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/269
> > [issue 372] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/372
> > [issue 373] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/373
> > [issue 427] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/427
> > [Issue 461] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/461
> > [Issue 462] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/462
> >
> >
> > --
> > @LeonieWatson tink.uk Carpe diem
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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John Foliot
Principal Accessibility Consultant
Deque Systems Inc.
john.fol...@deque.com

Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion


Re: Request to move HTML5.1 to Candidate Recommendation (CR)

2016-06-02 Thread John Foliot
+1

JF

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:48 AM, Katie Haritos-Shea GMAIL <ryla...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> +1 to publish WD
>
> ​
>
>
>
> * katie *
>
> Katie Haritos-Shea
> Principal ICT Accessibility Architect (WCAG/Section 508/ADA/AODA)
>
> Cell: 703-371-5545 | ryla...@gmail.com | Oakton, VA | LinkedIn Profile |
> Office: 703-371-5545
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Léonie Watson [mailto:t...@tink.uk]
> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2016 8:53 AM
> To: public-h...@w3.org
> Subject: FW: Request to move HTML5.1 to Candidate Recommendation (CR)
>
> Please respond on public-webapps@w3.org as the official email for the WP
> WG.
> Thanks.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Léonie Watson [mailto:t...@tink.uk]
> Sent: 02 June 2016 13:48
> To: 'public-webapps WG' <public-webapps@w3.org>
> Subject: CFC: Request to move HTML5.1 to Candidate Recommendation (CR)
>
> Hello WP,
>
> This is a call for consensus to request that W3C publish the current HTML
> Working Draft (WD) as a Candidate Recommendation (CR). It has been posted
> to public-webapps@w3.org as the official email for this WG.
>
> Please reply to this thread on public-webapps@w3.org  no later than end
> of day on 10 June. Positive responses are preferred and encouraged, silence
> will be considered as assent.
>
> The current HTML5.1 WD [1] improves upon HTML5. It includes updates that
> make it more reliable, more readable and understandable, and a better match
> for reality. Substantial changes between HTML5 and HTML5.1 can be found in
> the spec [2].
>
> When a specification moves to CR it triggers a Call For Exclusions, per
> section 4 of the W3C Patent Policy [3]. No substantive additions can be
> made to a specification in CR without starting a new Call for Exclusions,
> so we will put HTML5.1 into "feature freeze". It is possible to make
> editorial updates as necessary, and features marked "At Risk" may be
> removed if found not to be interoperable.
>
> The following features are considered "at risk". If we cannot identify at
> least two shipping implementations, they will be marked "at risk" in the CR
> and may be removed from the Proposed Recommendation.
>
> keygen element. [issue 43]
> label as a reassociatable element [issue 109] Fixing requestAnimationFrame
> to 60Hz, not implementation-defined [issues 159/375/422]
> registerContentHandler [Issue 233] inputmode attribute of the input element
> [issue 269] autofill of form elements [issue 372] menu, menuitem and
> context menus. [issue 373] dialog element [issue 427] Text tracks exposing
> in-band metadata best practices [Issue 461] datetime and datatime-local
> states of the input element [Issue 462]
>
> Please share implementation details for any of these features on Github.
> To mark other features "at risk", please identify them by 10th June
> (ideally by filing an issue and providing a test case).
>
> At the same time we move HTML5.1 into CR, we plan to continue updating the
> Editor's Draft, and in the next few weeks we expect to post a Call for
> Consensus to publish it as the First Public Working Draft of HTML5.2, so
> improving HTML will continue without a pause. It also means that changes
> that didn't make it into
> HTML5.1 will not have long to wait before being incorporated into the
> specification.
>
> Léonie on behalf of the WP chairs and team, and HTML editors.
> [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/
> [2] https://www.w3.org/TR/html51/changes.html#changes
> [3] https://www.w3.org/Consortium/Patent-Policy-20040205/#sec-Exclusion
>
> [issue 43] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/43
> [issue 109] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/109
> [issues 159/375/422] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/159 and links
> [issue 233] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/233
> [issue 269] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/269
> [issue 372] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/372
> [issue 373] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/373
> [issue 427] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/427
> [Issue 461] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/461
> [Issue 462] https://github.com/w3c/html/issues/462
>
>
> --
> @LeonieWatson tink.uk Carpe diem
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
John Foliot
Principal Accessibility Consultant
Deque Systems Inc.
john.fol...@deque.com

Advancing the mission of digital accessibility and inclusion