Re: [gamepad] Seeking status and plans [Was: [TPAC2014] Creating focused agenda]

2014-10-29 Thread Ted Mielczarek 
On 10/22/2014 8:08 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:

 * Gamepad: Ted and Scott; plan and expectations to get the spec to
 feature complete state (aka Last Call) and implementation status.


Sorry about the late response, I had a vacation in the middle of things
there.

The Gamepad spec currently has one major issue and a handful of minor
issues that prevent it from moving forward. Unfortunately I haven't
found time to fix them up, I'm planning on making time in the near
future to get those cleaned up.

Major issue: Need to spec liveness of Gamepad objects[1]. This was
discussed on the list[2] with lots of useful feedback but without really
convincing me one way or the other. However, at this point Chrome (and
IE's dev preview) have implemented the snapshot behavior, so I think I'm
going to write spec text to that effect and change Firefox's
implementation to match.

A few other minor issues[3] are filed in the tracker, several of which
were filed by implementers (Microsoft, Apple) and as such represent real
spec issues that need to be clarified to ensure interoperability. Some
of them have straightforward answers, some do not.

Implementation status: Microsoft has shipped an implementation in their
IE developer preview release[4], which I believe means it should ship in
IE 12. Chrome and Firefox have been shipping for some time now, and I
believe Apple will ship in the near future. The implementations are
mostly-compatible modulo the liveness issue discussed above (and
probably a few other corner cases including some of the minor issues).
Despite these incompatibilities it's quite possible to write code that
works across Firefox/Chrome/IE without trouble. Microsoft's own demos
work fine on Firefox and Chrome.

-Ted

1. https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=21434
2. http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2014AprJun/0238.html
3.
https://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?component=Gamepadlist_id=34439product=WebAppsWGresolution=---
4. http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ie/dn753843%28v=vs.85%29.aspx

[gamepad] Seeking status and plans [Was: [TPAC2014] Creating focused agenda]

2014-10-22 Thread Arthur Barstow 

On 10/11/14 10:43 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:
If you are an Editor and you did not register for the meeting please 
note:


a) If you can join the meeting via the teleconf bridge, please: 1) add 
your spec to the Potential Topics list and identify high priority 
discussion points; 2) plan to dial-in Monday morning (or let me know 
which open day + time slot you prefer to join the meeting).


b) If you cannot remotely participate in the meeting, please provide a 
short status of your spec, including any major blocking issues as well 
as general plans and expectations for the next six months (including 
publications plans). Please start a separate thread and use your 
spec's short name as the Subject: prefix (f.ex. [html-imports] Oct 
2014 status report and plans).


Here is the list of specs whose Editor(s) did not register for the 
meeting (if I made any mistakes, I apologize in advance, but please do 
let me know):


* Gamepad: Ted and Scott; plan and expectations to get the spec to 
feature complete state (aka Last Call) and implementation status.


Ted, Scott,

Please see the above and respond accordingly.

-Thanks, ArtB

[Agenda] https://www.w3.org/wiki/Webapps/November2014Meetin