Re: CfC: publish WG Note of XHR Level 2; deadline November 14

2014-11-18 Thread Arthur Barstow

On 11/7/14 11:46 AM, Arthur Barstow wrote:

this is a Call for Consensus to:

a) Publish a gutted WG Note of the spec (see [Draft-Note])


FYI, this WG Note has been published 
http://www.w3.org/TR/2014/NOTE-XMLHttpRequest2-20141118/.




RE: CfC: publish WG Note of XHR Level 2; deadline November 14

2014-11-08 Thread Domenic Denicola
From: cha...@yandex-team.ru [mailto:cha...@yandex-team.ru] 

 That doesn't work with the way W3C manages its work and paper trails.

I guess I was just inspired by Mike Smith earlier saying something along the 
lines of don't let past practice constrain your thinking as to what can be 
done in this case, and was hopeful we could come to the even-more-optimal 
solution.

In any case, maybe we could also add meta name=robots contents=noindex to 
this and previous drafts?



Re: CfC: publish WG Note of XHR Level 2; deadline November 14

2014-11-08 Thread chaals
08.11.2014, 14:46, Domenic Denicola d...@domenic.me:
 From: cha...@yandex-team.ru [mailto:cha...@yandex-team.ru]
  That doesn't work with the way W3C manages its work and paper trails.

 I guess I was just inspired by Mike Smith earlier saying something along the 
 lines of don't let past practice constrain your thinking as to what can be 
 done in this case, and was hopeful we could come to the even-more-optimal 
 solution.

 In any case, maybe we could also add meta name=robots contents=noindex 
 to this and previous drafts?

I'd object to doing that. While some search engines sometimes provide odd 
results for queries that match a series of drafts (I know, we're guilty of that 
too), overall I think it is helpful to be able to find oddities that were in a 
draft for a while. In particular it supports people doing a little bit of 
investigation on their own, rather than making it necessary to find someone who 
was around at the time and can give a clear and comprehensive explanation of 
how and why a decision was made.

Something that *would* make sense to me is to start adding schema.org metadata 
for documents. And checking that we can e.g. explain that some document is 
superseded by another one.

I'll go put my schema.org hat on and chase that down...

cheesr

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Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
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CfC: publish WG Note of XHR Level 2; deadline November 14

2014-11-07 Thread Arthur Barstow
During WebApps' XHR discussion on October 27, no one expressed interest 
to work on XHR L2 [Mins]. The last TR of XHR L2 was published in January 
2012 [WD] thus that version should be updated to clarify work has 
stopped. As such, this is a Call for Consensus to:


a) Publish a gutted WG Note of the spec (see [Draft-Note])

If anyone has comments or concerns about this CfC, please reply by 
November 14 at the latest. Positive response is preferred and encouraged 
and silence will be considered as agreement with the proposal. In the 
absence of any non-resolvable issues, I will see make sure the Note is 
published.


-Thanks, AB

[Mins] http://www.w3.org/2014/10/27-webapps-minutes.html#item21
[WD] http://www.w3.org/TR/XMLHttpRequest2/
[Draft-Note] 
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/xhr/raw-file/default/TR/XHRL2-Note-2014-Nov.html




Re: CfC: publish WG Note of XHR Level 2; deadline November 14

2014-11-07 Thread Anne van Kesteren
On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com wrote:
 https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/xhr/raw-file/default/TR/XHRL2-Note-2014-Nov.html

Should this not include a reference to https://xhr.spec.whatwg.org/?


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Re: CfC: publish WG Note of XHR Level 2; deadline November 14

2014-11-07 Thread Domenic Denicola




 On Nov 7, 2014, at 17:55, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
 
 On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com wrote:
 https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/xhr/raw-file/default/TR/XHRL2-Note-2014-Nov.html
 
 Should this not include a reference to https://xhr.spec.whatwg.org/?

Or better yet, just be a redirect to it, as was done with WHATWG's DOM Parsing 
spec to the W3C one?





Re: CfC: publish WG Note of XHR Level 2; deadline November 14

2014-11-07 Thread chaals
07.11.2014, 18:28, Domenic Denicola d...@domenic.me:
  On Nov 7, 2014, at 17:55, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:
  On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
  https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/xhr/raw-file/default/TR/XHRL2-Note-2014-Nov.html
  Should this not include a reference to https://xhr.spec.whatwg.org/?

 Or better yet, just be a redirect to it, as was done with WHATWG's DOM 
 Parsing spec to the W3C one?

That doesn't work with the way W3C manages its work and paper trails.

But yeah, a pointer is a pretty obvious thing to put in.

cheers

--
Charles McCathie Nevile - web standards - CTO Office, Yandex
cha...@yandex-team.ru - - - Find more at http://yandex.com



Re: CfC: publish WG Note of XHR Level 2; deadline November 14

2014-11-07 Thread Arthur Barstow

On 11/7/14 1:05 PM, cha...@yandex-team.ru wrote:

07.11.2014, 18:28, Domenic Denicola d...@domenic.me:

  On Nov 7, 2014, at 17:55, Anne van Kesteren ann...@annevk.nl wrote:

  On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Arthur Barstow art.bars...@gmail.com wrote:
  https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/xhr/raw-file/default/TR/XHRL2-Note-2014-Nov.html

  Should this not include a reference to https://xhr.spec.whatwg.org/?

Or better yet, just be a redirect to it, as was done with WHATWG's DOM Parsing 
spec to the W3C one?

That doesn't work with the way W3C manages its work and paper trails.

But yeah, a pointer is a pretty obvious thing to put in.


Yes, sorry, I meant to include that. I just checked in a patch that adds 
a reference and link for WebApps' XHRL1 spec and the WHATWG spec above. 
That patch add this info to the SotD section 
https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/xhr/raw-file/default/TR/XHRL2-Note-2014-Nov.html#sotd.


Currently, the Draft Note does not include Latest Editor's Draft data in 
its boilerplate. If we want to add that data, it's not clear if we want 
to add WebApps' ED and/or WHATWG's spec. Strong preferences?


-Thanks, AB