Re: [widgets] Widgets Updates

2010-08-19 Thread Scott Wilson
On 16 Aug 2010, at 21:29, Bernard Traversat wrote:

> On 8/16/10 2:34 AM, Rich Tibbett wrote:
>> 
>> On 14/08/2010 03:12, Bernard Traversat wrote:
>>> 
>>> Should we have a more explicit way to specify and notify users that some 
>>> updates may require data conversion and
>>> user data will be converted after the widget is updated? Due to the 
>>> error-prone nature of such conversion, users
>>> may want to back up their data before proceeding with an update.
>> 
>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean.
>> 
>> User data is not stored in a widget package itself. An update to an existing 
>> widget should be able to access the storage space used by previous versions 
>> of the same widget.
>> 
>> If data conversion is required perhaps you have a use case we could look at.
> The data conversion is the use case i was referring to. We should have a more 
> explicit way to tell the end-users upfront that by installing the new update
> his/her data will be converted with the potential risk of losing data and 
> never going back to the older version.

I think this UC is already covered by the Update Description Document; the 
widget author can put a warning in the details about the update, and the UA can 
then display that to the user. E.g.

http://www.w3.org/ns/widgets"; 
src="http://evil-fruit-company.com/sins/unoriginal-patent.wgt"; version="1.1">

  This update makes everything look really cool. Warning! This update will 
convert your existing data to a new format!



> 
> Hth,
> 
> B.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Rich
> 




Re: [widgets] Widgets Updates

2010-08-16 Thread Bernard Traversat

On 8/16/10 2:34 AM, Rich Tibbett wrote:

On 14/08/2010 03:12, Bernard Traversat wrote:
Should we have a more explicit way to specify and notify users that 
some updates may require data conversion and
user data will be converted after the widget is updated? Due to the 
error-prone nature of such conversion, users

may want to back up their data before proceeding with an update.


I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

User data is not stored in a widget package itself. An update to an 
existing widget should be able to access the storage space used by 
previous versions of the same widget.


If data conversion is required perhaps you have a use case we could 
look at.
The data conversion is the use case i was referring to. We should have a 
more explicit way to tell the end-users upfront that by installing the 
new update
his/her data will be converted with the potential risk of losing data 
and never going back to the older version.


Hth,

B.


Regards,

Rich 




Re: [widgets] Widgets Updates

2010-08-16 Thread Rich Tibbett

 On 14/08/2010 03:12, Bernard Traversat wrote:
Should we have a more explicit way to specify and notify users that 
some updates may require data conversion and
user data will be converted after the widget is updated? Due to the 
error-prone nature of such conversion, users

may want to back up their data before proceeding with an update.


I'm not sure I understand what you mean.

User data is not stored in a widget package itself. An update to an 
existing widget should be able to access the storage space used by 
previous versions of the same widget.


If data conversion is required perhaps you have a use case we could look at.

Regards,

Rich


Re: [widgets] Widgets Updates

2010-08-13 Thread Bernard Traversat

Comments:

Should we have a more explicit way to specify and notify users that some 
updates may require data conversion and
user data will be converted after the widget is updated? Due to the 
error-prone nature of such conversion, users

may want to back up their data before proceeding with an update.

B.

On 8/11/10 2:34 AM, Rich Tibbett wrote:
Over the last few days I've been updating the Widgets Updates 
specification with Marcos.


The latest editor's draft is available here:

http://dev.w3.org/2006/waf/widgets-updates/

Please review and propose any input or feedback on the mailing list.

This draft does not assume consensus of the working group on the 
material at this point.


Kind regards,
Rich
--
Rich Tibbett
Opera Software