Re: Blob/File naming

2010-09-08 Thread Chris Prince
 1. Most people that I talk to dislike the name Blob, much less having
 it spread to things like BlobReader.

I could maybe understand this if blob were a new term we were
inventing.  But it's not.  It's a well-known computer science concept.
 It seems worse to try and coin a totally new name for opaque chunk
of data.

FWIW, most people hating the name blob seems like a stretch, as it
has not been my experience.  But maybe we run in different circles.




RE: Blob/File naming

2010-09-07 Thread Adrian Bateman
On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:46 AM, Chris Prince wrote:
  1. Most people that I talk to dislike the name Blob, much less having
  it spread to things like BlobReader.
 
 I could maybe understand this if blob were a new term we were
 inventing.  But it's not.  It's a well-known computer science concept.
  It seems worse to try and coin a totally new name for opaque chunk
 of data.
 
 FWIW, most people hating the name blob seems like a stretch, as it
 has not been my experience.  But maybe we run in different circles.

This was addressed to me although quoting Jonas.

One of the problems I've experienced is that in general the well-known computer
science concept doesn't have a URL that can be used to stream data into another
object. It's feasible to use the Blob interface in circumstances where the bits
of the blob aren't manifested until they are actually used. Some concepts from
the Media Capture API seem to be heading in this direction.

That said, I don't have a problem with the name Blob. :o)

Cheers,

Adrian.



Re: Blob/File naming

2010-09-07 Thread Jonas Sicking
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Chris Prince chris.pri...@gmail.com wrote:
 1. Most people that I talk to dislike the name Blob, much less having
 it spread to things like BlobReader.

 I could maybe understand this if blob were a new term we were
 inventing.  But it's not.  It's a well-known computer science concept.
  It seems worse to try and coin a totally new name for opaque chunk
 of data.

 FWIW, most people hating the name blob seems like a stretch, as it
 has not been my experience.  But maybe we run in different circles.

I have already enumerated in numerous emails why I think File is
better than Blob, at least in some contexts. Last time in [1]. You
seem to have a different experience with regards to item 1 in that
list, however items 2 through 4 still applies and so I don't see a
reason to change my conclusion.

[1] http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webapps/2010JulSep/0637.html

/ Jonas



Re: Blob/File naming

2010-09-07 Thread Michael Nordman
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:12 PM, Adrian Bateman adria...@microsoft.comwrote:

 On Tuesday, September 07, 2010 11:46 AM, Chris Prince wrote:
   1. Most people that I talk to dislike the name Blob, much less having
   it spread to things like BlobReader.
 
  I could maybe understand this if blob were a new term we were
  inventing.  But it's not.  It's a well-known computer science concept.
   It seems worse to try and coin a totally new name for opaque chunk
  of data.


  FWIW, most people hating the name blob seems like a stretch, as it
  has not been my experience.  But maybe we run in different circles.

 This was addressed to me although quoting Jonas.

 One of the problems I've experienced is that in general the well-known
 computer
 science concept doesn't have a URL that can be used to stream data into
 another
 object. It's feasible to use the Blob interface in circumstances where the
 bits
 of the blob aren't manifested until they are actually used. Some concepts
 from
 the Media Capture API seem to be heading in this direction.


We've reformed the api that provides a url such that it's no longer an
attribute of the Blob instance. Instead there's a method of the window' that
binds the contents of the Blob to a url that is valid for the lifetime of
the window object or until the url is revoked via another window method.



 That said, I don't have a problem with the name Blob. :o)


Me  neither.


 Cheers,

 Adrian.