Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Disable flat volume

2009-08-13 Thread Daniel Chen
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Jason Taylor wrote:
> Is there a way to disable flat volume easily?

See /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Disable flat volume

2009-08-13 Thread Jason Taylor
per user?

2009/8/14 Daniel Chen :
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:18 PM, Jason Taylor wrote:
>> Is there a way to disable flat volume easily?
>
> See /etc/pulse/daemon.conf
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[pulseaudio-discuss] Disable flat volume

2009-08-13 Thread Jason Taylor
Is there a way to disable flat volume easily?

Cheers

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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Disable flat volume

2009-08-13 Thread Colin Guthrie

'Twas brillig, and Jason Taylor at 13/08/09 21:20 did gyre and gimble:

per user?


Copy to ~/.pulse/daemon.conf

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[pulseaudio-discuss] Bluetooth - A2DP only? Recommended headsets? Jack?

2009-08-13 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
Hi all, I've been thinking of getting a bluetooth stereo headset for
my laptop. The two I'm considering are the B Speech Calypso (perhaps
SP if its not a big price difference) or the Jabra BT8030. I'm
relatively confident that those will work with Pulse, as I've seen
guides posted up here and there on pairing and sending sound through
Pulse.

Just a few questions on the 'internals' of this, I assume Pulse
communicates with BlueZ and uses A2DP to connect to the headsets? Is
this pulse-specific or are there other ways of connecting (for
example, through alsa, or jack). I'm asking because while I use Pulse
almost all the time, sometimes (in recording or other such things) I
use JACK, and pulseaudio-module-jack is a bit hit-and-miss currently.

Besides that, does anyone here have comments on the models I've shown
above? Any recommendations for something within a similar price range?
I will mainly be using it for listening to music, while most
forums/searches tell me about call-quality instead, which is quite a
different beast.

Thanks.
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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Bluetooth - A2DP only? Recommended headsets? Jack?

2009-08-13 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 14.08.09 08:45, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote:

> Hi all, I've been thinking of getting a bluetooth stereo headset for
> my laptop. The two I'm considering are the B Speech Calypso (perhaps
> SP if its not a big price difference) or the Jabra BT8030. I'm
> relatively confident that those will work with Pulse, as I've seen
> guides posted up here and there on pairing and sending sound through
> Pulse.

Some of the headsets are crappier than others. More problematic then
the headsets is actually the dongle you use...

The A2DP headsets I test with are Motorola S9 and Logitech
FreePulse. The former is pretty good and dual A2DP/HSP. The latter is
crap. I also have a cheap Plantronics HSP-only headset.

If you want to make sure the hw works fine with PA then your safest
bet is probably to pick the hw I test with.

> Just a few questions on the 'internals' of this, I assume Pulse
> communicates with BlueZ and uses A2DP to connect to the headsets? Is
> this pulse-specific or are there other ways of connecting (for
> example, through alsa, or jack). I'm asking because while I use Pulse
> almost all the time, sometimes (in recording or other such things) I
> use JACK, and pulseaudio-module-jack is a bit hit-and-miss
> currently.

What's your beef with the jack module? Last time I checked it it
worked fine. The BTS shows no open bug filed against the jack module,
so to me looks as if everything's fine.

There's an ALSA module for BT. It works for basic stuff, but I'd guess
the PA plugin for ALSA plus PA's native BT support actually works
better. It's mostly about the timing. 

> Besides that, does anyone here have comments on the models I've shown
> above? Any recommendations for something within a similar price range?
> I will mainly be using it for listening to music, while most
> forums/searches tell me about call-quality instead, which is quite a
> different beast.

Motorola S9 is my recommendation. Most others I played around with are
crap. I wouldn't buy a cheap one. The Logitech one is a technical
disappointment.

Lennart

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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Bluetooth - A2DP only? Recommended headsets? Jack?

2009-08-13 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
Hi Lennart, thanks for your quick reply.

On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 04:47 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Fri, 14.08.09 08:45, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote:
> 
> > Just a few questions on the 'internals' of this, I assume Pulse
> > communicates with BlueZ and uses A2DP to connect to the headsets? Is
> > this pulse-specific or are there other ways of connecting (for
> > example, through alsa, or jack). I'm asking because while I use Pulse
> > almost all the time, sometimes (in recording or other such things) I
> > use JACK, and pulseaudio-module-jack is a bit hit-and-miss
> > currently.
> 
> What's your beef with the jack module? Last time I checked it it
> worked fine. The BTS shows no open bug filed against the jack module,
> so to me looks as if everything's fine.

Not so much a beef with the jack module, I use it and love it, but its
less stable (for me) than the rest of pulse or jack. You probably don't
recall but I specifically brought up a few issues with it, primarily
with crash-outs. Since my distro pushed to 2.6.30 I haven't used it
though (no RT patch, and no on-going projects for JACK to be used on),
so I haven't checked out the latest version in .16 yet, it may be more
stable than I remember from a few months back. So just regard this as
old information, when I get the time to patch up an RT kernel I'll test
with the latest pulse/jack.

> 
> There's an ALSA module for BT. It works for basic stuff, but I'd guess
> the PA plugin for ALSA plus PA's native BT support actually works
> better. It's mostly about the timing. 
Okay, good to hear. I'm thinking of ALSA as just 'the stuff between
Pulse and system' nowadays, but may try that out just for novelty value.
> 
> > Besides that, does anyone here have comments on the models I've shown
> > above? Any recommendations for something within a similar price range?
> > I will mainly be using it for listening to music, while most
> > forums/searches tell me about call-quality instead, which is quite a
> > different beast.
> 
> Motorola S9 is my recommendation. Most others I played around with are
> crap. I wouldn't buy a cheap one. The Logitech one is a technical
> disappointment.
> 
> Lennart

Could I ask what the definition of 'cheap one' is? I'm from Malaysia,
and we find it difficult to check prices when they're in USD, since
items which cost the same can have VERY different prices on our shores.
I'll check the S9 out, but my gut feeling is it may not be easy to find
here, and I have a natural aversion to in-ears, since I prefer plenty of
bass and low-freq definition in my music, especially when Q-testing my
recording sessions.

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Re: [pulseaudio-discuss] Bluetooth - A2DP only? Recommended headsets? Jack?

2009-08-13 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 11:33 +0800, Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> Hi Lennart, thanks for your quick reply.
> 
> On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 04:47 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > On Fri, 14.08.09 08:45, Ng Oon-Ee (ngoo...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > 
> > > Just a few questions on the 'internals' of this, I assume Pulse
> > > communicates with BlueZ and uses A2DP to connect to the headsets? Is
> > > this pulse-specific or are there other ways of connecting (for
> > > example, through alsa, or jack). I'm asking because while I use Pulse
> > > almost all the time, sometimes (in recording or other such things) I
> > > use JACK, and pulseaudio-module-jack is a bit hit-and-miss
> > > currently.
> > 
> > What's your beef with the jack module? Last time I checked it it
> > worked fine. The BTS shows no open bug filed against the jack module,
> > so to me looks as if everything's fine.
> 
> Not so much a beef with the jack module, I use it and love it, but its
> less stable (for me) than the rest of pulse or jack. You probably don't
> recall but I specifically brought up a few issues with it, primarily
> with crash-outs. Since my distro pushed to 2.6.30 I haven't used it
> though (no RT patch, and no on-going projects for JACK to be used on),
> so I haven't checked out the latest version in .16 yet, it may be more
> stable than I remember from a few months back. So just regard this as
> old information, when I get the time to patch up an RT kernel I'll test
> with the latest pulse/jack.
> 
> > 
> > There's an ALSA module for BT. It works for basic stuff, but I'd guess
> > the PA plugin for ALSA plus PA's native BT support actually works
> > better. It's mostly about the timing. 
> Okay, good to hear. I'm thinking of ALSA as just 'the stuff between
> Pulse and system' nowadays, but may try that out just for novelty value.
> > 
> > > Besides that, does anyone here have comments on the models I've shown
> > > above? Any recommendations for something within a similar price range?
> > > I will mainly be using it for listening to music, while most
> > > forums/searches tell me about call-quality instead, which is quite a
> > > different beast.
> > 
> > Motorola S9 is my recommendation. Most others I played around with are
> > crap. I wouldn't buy a cheap one. The Logitech one is a technical
> > disappointment.
> > 
> > Lennart
> 
> Could I ask what the definition of 'cheap one' is? I'm from Malaysia,
> and we find it difficult to check prices when they're in USD, since
> items which cost the same can have VERY different prices on our shores.
> I'll check the S9 out, but my gut feeling is it may not be easy to find
> here, and I have a natural aversion to in-ears, since I prefer plenty of
> bass and low-freq definition in my music, especially when Q-testing my
> recording sessions.
> 

Quick additional question, since you have an S9, the reviews I'm reading
indicate its not wearable for users with spectacles, and that does look
likely from the design. Is that true?

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