Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-01-12 Thread Eric Thompson (JIRA)
Title: Message Title
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 Eric Thompson created an issue 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  lookup --explain can be unclear about results  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Issue Type:
 
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 2017/01/12 10:24 AM 
 
 
 

Priority:
 
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Reporter:
 
 Eric Thompson 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
the puppet lookup command presents results in a strange format. YAML? no matter what backend/data format is used. 
also, --explain can make it unclear what the final result is, and is in a possibly different format (puppet?). 
 
 
 
 
 
 
[root@yfvz7smg1d39yfg ~]# puppet lookup --environment v3_config_and_data_v2q6tg7e environment_key2 
 
 
 
 
Warning: /etc/puppetlabs/puppet/hiera.yaml: Use of 'hiera.yaml' version 3 is deprecated. It should be converted to version 5 
 
 
 
 
   (in /etc/puppetlabs/puppet/hiera.yaml) 
 
 
 
 
  

Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-01-12 Thread Eric Thompson (JIRA)
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 Eric Thompson commented on  PUP-7096 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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ping Lindsey Smith for product input on how this should work. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-01-12 Thread Thomas Hallgren (JIRA)
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 Thomas Hallgren commented on  PUP-7096 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Re: lookup --explain can be unclear about results  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
This might boil down to a documentation issue. The output of lookup can be controlled. It's done using the option --render-as. The default when not using --explain is to output the found value as yaml. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
puppet lookup --render-as json environment_key2 
 
 
 
 
"env value2"
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
puppet lookup --render-as console environment_key2 
 
 
 
 
env value2
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The output from --explain can also be controlled using --render-as but the default output is indented text. It shows: 
 
 
 
 
 
 
layer (global, env, module) 
 
 
 
 
  hierarchy entry within layer 
 
 
 
 
path for specific entry 
 
 
 

Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-01-13 Thread Eric Thompson (JIRA)
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 Eric Thompson commented on  PUP-7096 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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i forgot about --render-as 
"with --explain most of the explanation is removed" 
– i meant that i removed most of the --explain output in my examples to keep the example short. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-01-13 Thread Eric Thompson (JIRA)
Title: Message Title
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
 Eric Thompson updated an issue 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  lookup --explain can be unclear about results  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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 the {{puppet lookup}} command presents results in a strange format.YAML?  no matter what backend/data format is used.also, {{--explain}} can make it unclear what the final result is, and is in a possibly different format (puppet?).{code}[root@yfvz7smg1d39yfg ~]# puppet lookup --environment v3_config_and_data_v2q6tg7e environment_key2Warning: /etc/puppetlabs/puppet/hiera.yaml: Use of 'hiera.yaml' version 3 is deprecated. It should be converted to version 5   (in /etc/puppetlabs/puppet/hiera.yaml)--- env value2...{code}with --explain...  skipping all the explanation  (i removed most of its output here) , the output:{code}Merged result: "env value2"Merged result: "env value2"{code}for a more complex example with json and yaml and merges:{code}[root@yfvz7smg1d39yfg ~]# puppet lookup --environment v3_config_and_data_06dshknl environment_key4Warning: /etc/puppetlabs/puppet/hiera.yaml: Use of 'hiera.yaml' version 3 is deprecated. It should be converted to version 5   (in /etc/puppetlabs/puppet/hiera.yaml)---- jsonval: '4'  val: 4{code}and with --explain  with   (i removed  most of  the explanation removed  its output here) :{code}  Path not foundMerged result: [  {"jsonval" => "4"  }]Merged result: [  {"jsonval" => "4","val" => 4  }]{code} 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-01-13 Thread Thomas Hallgren (JIRA)
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 Thomas Hallgren commented on  PUP-7096 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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@erict, do you think that documentation that explains that a) a lookup is nested (layer -> hierarchy entry -> paths), b) that the nesting is reflected by the indentation, and c) that each level is subject to merges, would help here? I can see how the output is confusing unless this nesting is known. The nesting is however happening and I'm not sure how to visualize it in a better way. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-01-15 Thread Henrik Lindberg (JIRA)
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Get help from UX here ? 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-01-18 Thread Eric Thompson (JIRA)
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  Re: lookup --explain can be unclear about results  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Lori Landesman do you have opinions on this? 
Thomas Hallgren i see the issues in getting around the nesting in the output.  yes i can think documentation would help. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-03-16 Thread Henrik Lindberg (JIRA)
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 Henrik Lindberg assigned an issue to Lindsey Smith 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
The basic issue here is that the output from --explain explains something that is quite complex. We do need to have documentation regarding how to debug hiera, and that should include understanding the output of --explain. 
The output could also benefit from input from UX. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-03-16 Thread Henrik Lindberg (JIRA)
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 Henrik Lindberg assigned an issue to Lindsey Smith 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  lookup --explain can be unclear about results  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Change By:
 
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Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-03-17 Thread Lindsey Smith (JIRA)
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Gary Larizza is making a pass through Hiera 5 and this would be an area where his feedback is valuable. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 
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Jira (PUP-7096) lookup --explain can be unclear about results

2017-05-16 Thread Branan Riley (JIRA)
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