Re: [Puppet Users] Announce: Puppet-Agent 1.2.4, Puppet 4.2.2, Facter 3.1.0

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am 18.09.2015 um 07:56 schrieb Dirk Heinrichs:

> Am 17.09.2015 um 16:03 schrieb Rob Reynolds:
>
>> It /can/ work, it's just not deterministic. As you are seeing.
>
> That's not what I'm seeing. I'm seeing that it HAS worked fine on
> Windows 2008 for the past 2 years or so (and still does), but doesn't
> on Windows 2012.

I'm also seeing that it's not a problem DURING upgrade, but a problem
STARTING the installer (at least according to the error message).

Bye...

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Re: [Puppet Users] Announce: Puppet-Agent 1.2.4, Puppet 4.2.2, Facter 3.1.0

[Francois Lafont]

Hi,

On 17/09/2015 09:11, Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

> I'm using a self-written class to manage the Puppet agent package on agent 
> nodes. It works fine on any Linux and Windows Server 2008R2, but fails 
> reproducably on Windows Server 2012R2 when trying to upgrade the agent 
> package. 
> The following message appears in the report: [...]

I wanted to do exactly the same but I had errors too during an upgrade
(sorry I don't remember the messages). But in fact (and after interesting
discussions on IRC ;)) I was convinced that it's logical. Indeed, finally
I think it's not reasonable to upgrade the AIO puppet-agent package
*during* a puppet run. It's a curious situation where there is an execution
of a software during its upgrade. Finally, it seems to me a not reasonable
situation, and we can't hope a normal behavior during a such situation.

So, I'm not a puppet expert, but I think it's better to upgrade the
puppet-agent with another way that a puppet run.

Regards.

François Lafont

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Re: [Puppet Users] Announce: Puppet-Agent 1.2.4, Puppet 4.2.2, Facter 3.1.0

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am 17.09.2015 um 12:53 schrieb Francois Lafont:

> It's a curious situation where there is an execution of a software
> during its upgrade.

No, that's quite normal. Think "yum upgrade" upgrading yum itself on Linux.

> Finally, it seems to me a not reasonable situation, and we can't hope
> a normal behavior during a such situation. 

I did this for quite some time now, let various 3.x versions upgrade
themselves to their successors w/o problems on both Linux and Win 2008.
The self-upgrade from agent 1.2.2 to 1.2.4 also works fine on Win 2008.
It just seems to be special to Win 2012.

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: [Puppet Users] Announce: Puppet-Agent 1.2.4, Puppet 4.2.2, Facter 3.1.0

[Francois Lafont]

On 17/09/2015 12:53, Francois Lafont wrote:

> I wanted to do exactly the same but I had errors too during an upgrade
> (sorry I don't remember the messages). But in fact (and after interesting
> discussions on IRC ;)) I was convinced that it's logical. Indeed, finally
> I think it's not reasonable to upgrade the AIO puppet-agent package
> *during* a puppet run. It's a curious situation where there is an execution
> of a software during its upgrade. Finally, it seems to me a not reasonable
> situation, and we can't hope a normal behavior during a such situation.
> 
> So, I'm not a puppet expert, but I think it's better to upgrade the
> puppet-agent with another way that a puppet run.

Of course, I'm maybe wrong, I have no certainty on the issue, it's just a
personal conclusion and I will follow with interest the following answers.

Regards.
François Lafont

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Re: [Puppet Users] Announce: Puppet-Agent 1.2.4, Puppet 4.2.2, Facter 3.1.0

[Rob Reynolds]

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 6:01 AM, Dirk Heinrichs <
dirk.heinri...@recommind.com> wrote:

> Am 17.09.2015 um 12:53 schrieb Francois Lafont:
>
> It's a curious situation where there is an execution of a software during
> its upgrade.
>
>
> No, that's quite normal. Think "yum upgrade" upgrading yum itself on Linux.
>

It's quite normal on a POSIX system, but the same just does not apply to
Windows. Perhaps if you read through MODULES-2040[1] you will better
understand why it is harder to do on Windows. It's not as simple as
replacing all of the files, which you can easily do on a POSIX system.
LInux will happily let you replace files b/c it holds everything in memory,
where Windows does not.


[1] https://tickets.puppetlabs.com/browse/MODULES-2040


>
>
> Finally, it seems to me a not reasonable situation, and we can't hope a
> normal behavior during a such situation.
>
>
> I did this for quite some time now, let various 3.x versions upgrade
> themselves to their successors w/o problems on both Linux and Win 2008. The
> self-upgrade from agent 1.2.2 to 1.2.4 also works fine on Win 2008. It just
> seems to be special to Win 2012.
>

It *can* work, it's just not deterministic. As you are seeing.


>
> Bye...
>
> Dirk
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Re: [Puppet Users] Announce: Puppet-Agent 1.2.4, Puppet 4.2.2, Facter 3.1.0

[Dirk Heinrichs]

Am 17.09.2015 um 16:03 schrieb Rob Reynolds:

> It /can/ work, it's just not deterministic. As you are seeing.

That's not what I'm seeing. I'm seeing that it HAS worked fine on
Windows 2008 for the past 2 years or so (and still does), but doesn't on
Windows 2012.

Bye...

Dirk
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Re: [Puppet Users] Announce: Puppet-Agent 1.2.4, Puppet 4.2.2, Facter 3.1.0

[Jo Rhett]

What’s the ETA for Puppet 4.3?  Looking forward to numerous changes committed 
for that release.

On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:00 PM, Eric Sorenson  wrote:
> Puppet Agent 1.2.4 is out! This is a new minor release of the all-in-one
> agent bundle which incorporates updates to Puppet, Facter, Hiera, and 
> Mcollective.
> 
> * Puppet 4.2.2, a bugfix release which includes an important Windows security
>  fix: 
> https://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppet/4.2/reference/release_notes.html#puppet-422
> 
> * Facter 3.1.0, a backwards-compatible feature release of Facter which adds
>  support for OpenBSD and Solaris facts, improves the network interface facts,
>  and fixes a regression that caused Docker containers on systemd hosts to
>  erroneously report themselves not to be virtual:
>  https://docs.puppetlabs.com/facter/3.1/release_notes.html#facter-310
> 
> * Mcollective 2.8.5, which reverted a problem renaming the mcollective service
>  on Mac OS X and improves the init script on SUSE.
> 
> * Hiera 3.0.3, which is a tag-only release (necessary for tooling, no
>  functional changes)
> 
> You can find out more about the all-in-one puppet-agent package here:
> https://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppet/4.2/reference/about_agent.html
> 
> The installation and upgrade instructions are linked from the main docs page:
> https://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppet/4.2/reference/index.html
> 
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> puppet platform // coffee // techno // bicycles
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[Puppet Users] Announce: Puppet-Agent 1.2.4, Puppet 4.2.2, Facter 3.1.0

[Eric Sorenson]

Puppet Agent 1.2.4 is out! This is a new minor release of the all-in-one
agent bundle which incorporates updates to Puppet, Facter, Hiera, and 
Mcollective.


* Puppet 4.2.2, a bugfix release which includes an important Windows security
  fix: 
https://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppet/4.2/reference/release_notes.html#puppet-422

* Facter 3.1.0, a backwards-compatible feature release of Facter which adds
  support for OpenBSD and Solaris facts, improves the network interface facts,
  and fixes a regression that caused Docker containers on systemd hosts to
  erroneously report themselves not to be virtual:
  https://docs.puppetlabs.com/facter/3.1/release_notes.html#facter-310

* Mcollective 2.8.5, which reverted a problem renaming the mcollective service
  on Mac OS X and improves the init script on SUSE.

* Hiera 3.0.3, which is a tag-only release (necessary for tooling, no
  functional changes)

You can find out more about the all-in-one puppet-agent package here:
https://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppet/4.2/reference/about_agent.html

The installation and upgrade instructions are linked from the main docs page:
https://docs.puppetlabs.com/puppet/4.2/reference/index.html

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